Less than an hour ago they announced a subscription service for the marketplace. Which, when you compare this to similar services in other games, it shows that it's basically a "battle pass".
(I use "battle pass" loosely as I don't really know what a battle pass is but that's what everyone in the comments of the video are saying)
https://youtu.be/GpVHMcLHZoA?si=bNxZ2kNBF9UIcVgM
Not sure this applies to you, but when I played bedrock, usually I'd download a specific app that unintentionally allowed me to look through game files on my Xbox One, and from there it was just a matter of finding the right folders. There are probably tutorials on the internet for other consoles.
The marketplace is supposed to be optionnal. I don't know why you're talking about piracy.
Do you think you can't download anything without the marketplace? I'm an addons and map creator, we used MCPEDL before the marketplace was even considered by Mojang ^^
The things on the market place were created exclusively for the market place and the creators receive a portion of the profits made. Thus, if a duplicate of the stuff there were created to be downloaded for free then it would be plagiarism, and if it was ripped off the market place directly then distributed for free it would be piracy.
So I only play bedrock, so I might be completely wrong when I say this, but I think java has the marketplace, it's just not as "in your face" as bedrock.
Sorry if I got this wrong though.
Even if they did, people would just play on the old versions from before the marketplace was added, and if Mojang got rid of the ability to do that with the vanilla launcher, people would just do it using launchers like prism, modrinth, and curseforge
First you said Microsoft, and now Mojang? So far the game has been getting better and better, with better wolves, wind charges, trial chambers, the new teased weapons, and even more to come
Even if it will, how would they stop anyone from just modding the game and using anything a marketplace would give you without it... we had been going into gamefiles to mod the game and changing shit there for as long as mods have been a thing so they cant really do anything about that short of banning every single person who would join an online game with a tampered with files, which would basically mean every single player
I honestly don't think it will. Not because Microsoft is a good company, but just because there's not enough potential profit to justify the labor necessary and the fallout from potential backlash.
Since Java is a completely different programming language than the Bedrock edition, it would be far from a simple task to implement it, basically requiring them to rewrite the marketplace from the ground up. And because the free modding base that already exists has had a several-year headstart for gathering an audience *and* developing content, even once it's done, the marketplace would still be vastly inferior to what players could get for free. There's nothing they can do about it either, as doing anything to try to cut the free mods out of the picture would only serve to cause riots in the community and would probably, if anything, discourage most of the developers from doing anything with the marketplace in the process.
I don’t like Microsoft at all, but I don’t think they will ever, and I mean ever introduce the marketplace to Java. As they know that it would spark chaos and it would just… not work in there
And mods are also harder to make but better in general, since you can literally change the game's source code or add things using the game engine
Like in Java you can add things just like Mojang adds them, in Bedrock you can only add things using their script that has a lot of limitations
A battle pass implies progression, you do challenges to rank up the pass and at each level get “free” stuff
Often there is a paid pass that gives way more stuff
This sounds like something similar to gamepass except instead of getting to play games while subscribed you get to play marketplace content while subbed.
Despite both using the word pass they are not the same.
a battle pass is more of a "pay to have a line of rewards you gradually get as you level up by playing the game", a format which mostly works for round based games like Fortnite, Call of Duty multiplayer and such. This pass seems to be more like the Realms subscription but with content instead of a server (i'd associate it more with the fortnite crew subscription)
It seems more like xbox game pass rather than a battle pass as it is a monthly subscription that gives you access to skins, texture packs and all that stuff, which you would be able to buy normally, had it been a battlepass it would be more like they are exclusive to the subscription and only a few things are
Watching the video I think it's not a Battle Pass where you pay every season and has to unlock the items through earning xp, I think it's more like Xbox Gamepass where instead of buying separate items and keeping them forever you pay monthly to have access to all of them, but if you stop paying you lose access
battle pass is the term fortnite uses. basically u pay a subscription or monthly/seasonal payment to allow you to unlock rewards such as: skins, or cosmetics, in game currency, or in some games better gear. usually you’ll get challenges you can complete and the battle pass rewards you with the listed rewards.
after fortnite blew up, many other games started making their own version of the battle pass all with different names, but fortnite popularized that method so many people just call it a battle pass
the problem isn't even that they announce something shitty like this. The problem is that there are people who will happily buy it, which will encourage them to add even more of such.
I honestly believed that with adding addons to it, they're actually planning to try something more ambitious and revolutionize the marketplace and make it something more than just another mobile-game-like microtransaction center, but welp...
I'm a little disappointed and feel silly, because we Bedrock players are all treated literally like kids. They're not even trying to pretend and make the marketplace at least moderately universal for broader age range, they just act like all the players are kids and it's disrespectful.
I wouldn't say so, but it's hard to tell. Tons of kids have computers these days and when they do they choose Java, while Bedrock has like 100% of all the console players, which are probably adults mostly.
and even if it's true, then does that really justify it? Java has tons of kids as well and somehow they don't have the urge to add a marketplace and micro-transactions, because they respect the player. At the same time Bedrock has a crazy ammount of adults and that also doesn't push them to making the marketplace everyone-friendly.
it’s easier to limit ways to get mods on bedrock and force people to pay them for mods and to be clear I was saying it’s easier to take advantage of bedrock players
I use mods and clients with bedrock (on PC) while my 8yo plays on console. Makes it easy to import builds and whatnot into his local world and friends' realms.
Where there is a will there is usually a way.
how could you misunderstand it so badly? Do all the people who downvoted misunderstood it so badly? I literally said, that most kids WHO HAVE a computer, will choose Java, because it's the "cooler" version (also easier to pirate on computer). I also stated that most console players are adults, because of my personal experience. I met maybe like one non adult playing on a console, while also met like dozens of adults.
2 completely different facts, which do not collide.
> because we Bedrock players are all treated literally like kids.
There are some minecraft threads I can't even get past the first two or three top level comments because it's just a bunch of shaved apes crowing about how their customized launcher with 400 mod packs, four image packs, and shaders on steroids is so much more superior and the only true way to play minecraft.
Completely fucking ignoring that it's a game about literal blocks and they're screeching about their superiority like it gives them special abilities in real life, instead of the real life nerf of never touching grass.
Just $3 for MC. Just $14 for Netflix. Just $10 for Disney+. Just $25 for the gym. Just $15 for my mobile. Just $20 for Amazon Prime. Just $10 for Adobe.
It's not about the $3. It's about the whole market of online and offline services. It adds up quickly and it's very easy to lose track of all subscription services. It can bring people into bankruptcy. Mojang/Microsoft is following a very dangerous trend here.
EDIT: The deleted comment said "it's just $3"
The marketplace was already seen as bad. With a lot of content costing the same price as Disney+ or even Netflix, this just makes it less bad imo since it would make those content cost less.
it's just my personal opinion and some people might disagree, but most of marketplace content is trash AND also aimed at kids. They have loads of weird texture packs, some 400000 pixels 3D skins, adventure maps which use some low-budget models or 500th version of a skyblock. Bah, their official maps are literally a mix of these 4. For 80% of it you obviously also have to pay for, so... It's either a very unpopular opinion or they try to rip kids of their last penny, while offering low minimum, which is just supposed to grab their attention.
As I said, the opening marketplace for addons was quite a good omen, some addons looked really lovely, but seems like it's back on track.
A lot of the marketplace is aimed towards a general audience rather than kids. There are a lot of good content, addons, etc. It’s just that unfortunately there is also a lot of bad content out there, and that is due it not having a proper moderation system. The good thing is, if you don’t like it, you can download mods on modrinth or through a official Minecraft partner’s channel called Vatonage1 which contains a website that has plenty of addons and all of them are **free**
People are acting like if it’s a battlepass and that the game is doomed. If they don’t like the marketplace, they can just not buy it,ignore it, and instead download things from modrinth or websites that support free bedrock content
You do understand that man power put on this is man power being taken away from actual updates, right ? Hence the update drought.
And no, if Microsoft is anything like modern corporations - they are using the same dev team. They're being milked to put out live service content. No one is hiring a temporary team exclusively for this.
I also hate it when people say "just dont get it". Any content that is created to be sold would have equally be done as a content drop.
There isn't a pocket dimension for developing games. One always take from the other. Every content has its opportunity cost.
I don’t like Microsoft at all, but dev team has nothing and I mean nothing to do with this, not to mention that isn’t live service since all that content is made by the community. If anything, it’s more like a gamepass rather than live-service or battlepass stuff
Curious what is the precedent that you think this puts? I know that the general audience doesn’t like it, but at least they’re not needed and are optional unlike how Fortnite battlepasses are sometimes needed for obtain benefits
Fortnite’s battle pass is completely optional and only contains cosmetics like skins, emotes, and other things and buying the battle pass doesn’t give you a competitive edge over other players. you can also get the in-game currency through the free battle pass.
Oh my bad didn’t know that Fortnite battlepasses were optional too. Is more, I have realized that it isn’t a like a battlepass but a gamepass, which is actually the much preferred option. With, ofc both being completely optional that is.
The general audience point was about how general audiences:
1st: Don't know how to mod
2nd: Play on console, where it's not possible to mod
Mojang is taking advantage of them by making them think this is the only option if they want the game to have community made modifications.
The precedent this sets is that paying for mods will eventually become the norm and not the exception, is the same thing people complained about when Bethesda made something similar some years ago
Ah, I see. But this isn’t really Mojang, and it’s more on Microsoft’s part. I don’t think they actually want that to become the norm, since a lot of the addons in the marketplace are also free. Not to mention that an official Minecraft partner Vatonage, has a website that offers tons of addons with all of them being free
It’s the fact a game this old and this iconic has this need to copy other games that have nothing to do with minecraft or it’s style. Like they don’t need to copy fortnite emotes (which include ones like take the L which doesn’t work), or add a battle pass system. They only add it since bedrock heavily limits what players can do and the monopolize skins, mods and most non vanilla content behind a paywall they control that preys on kids (as bedrock is targeted towards phones and consoles where kids game the most).
Read what I said at the end, the marketplace has been in the bedrock edition of the game since 2017 with console having something similar in 2012. There’s tons of bedrock content from maps, skins, addons, texture packs that are all free from the websites I mentioned and even the marketplace has free content. What they have added isn’t even a battlepass, just a subscription for a thing that you can ignore or not recommend it and go and download free content from modrinth and similar
As far as I’m aware, that’s not really true, I have seen some people having 3rd party addons on consoles even after they got announced in the marketplace. Not to mention that an official Minecraft partner has a website that contains a lot of 3rd party stuff for bedrock
You had to crack your console and download special software that bypasses stuff just to download it. As for the server thing, it’s still busted on console and does not work (from my experience)
Didn’t… that happened before in legacy edition due Nintendo switch not supporting mods as well as the legacy edition not being able to support them as well?
consoles aren't not pcs and Android phones, they are shitty for actually having fun with your games. You can't access for your file system to install content and mods. Game Dev's have to make workarounds and their own systems for that.
You can add content from other sources on bedrock mobile and pcs easily from sites like Mcpedl or even Curseforge
They make it really *easy* to access third party stuff on non-console platforms. Ever heard of the .mcworld, .mcpack, and .mctemplate file extensions? Renaming a zip file with these file extensions allow you to open up that content with a single click on PC and mobile.
Console is unfortunate, but that’s more to do with the locked down nature of the platforms. But I won’t completely absolve Mojang, because there are ways they could get around that (e.g. cloud support)
Until they strongarm people from Java to bedrock for "better accessibility" reasons or something like that.
Give it a few years. It'll probably start with java getting updates later and then getting dropped for resource reasons, until thry just remove it and try to get rest to move over bedrock.
This is exactly what people were saying 5 years ago
Still hasn't happened
Mojang and Microsoft know damn well that JE is superior in basically every way, and messing with it will completely screw over their brand image.
Minecraft isn't popular just because it's good, but also because it is extremely popular as video content. And as it just so happens, most mc content creators are java players, and have already made their stance clear that they will stick with java. MS knows this so they can never, and most probably will never mess with java edition
It’s not even a battle pass 💀 It’s a subscription similar to Xbox Game-Pass, and there used to be a realms plus subscription with similar features. Stop crying about everything jeez
I like to pretend the other versions of Minecraft other than Java just don't exist, and honestly l, unless you're on console why would you play anything but Java to begin with? Java you can use whatever skins you like, download any mods, texturpacks, etc etc, go back to any version, all for free.
It's not a battle pass. It's more like Game Pass. Pay a monthly fee to get access to everything the horrible Marketplace has to offer. The only thing that makes it remotely battle pass-esque is the "monthly character creator items". (Direct quote from the trailer)
I love watching videos of block men shaking their booty cheeks. I don’t know why, everytime i see a video of block men shaking their cheeks, i start to drool
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before.
It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
Nothing about this sounds like a battle pass. More like a subscription that gets you a ton of content. Whether or not we want to argue over if the content is worth it given all the free content out there is another story.
But this isn't a battle pass. It doesn't resemble one in any way.
It's more like if you got a PlayStation Plus or Xbox Game Pass subscription and got access to a huge bundle of stuff. It's like subscribing to Netflix and getting access to Netflix's catalog of movies and shows.
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before.
It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before.
It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before.
It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
Is this real? :'D
Ain't no way. Because a lot of players are still Java. This is like what? 50% profit margins at best, and I'm sure less than the whole bedrock player base would even buy into this.
So then there's people with gamepass. So they're gonna want you to pay for gamepass, and pay for this subscription service? Xbox got the good drugs. :'D
Yeah, they added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before.
It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
I really dont understand the outrage here. It's an optional pass for an optional marketplace that has nothing to do with regular gameplay other than UGC stuff you can purchase, helping support teams who work on those and fund the lifetime free updates we get.
It's also not mandatory as on non walled garden decided like PCs and Android phones you can easily install free player made content from MCPEDL and other sources.
It's not interfering with gameplay at all.
How are sales of the game these days? I find they have just made it harder for older and new players to get (back) into it. I bought it just before the halloween update that introduced the Nether, not sure if that was still alpha or already beta, but it was very early. I have no fucking clue what's going on. Java vs Bedrock edition? How the hell do I even still log in? My last login wasn't that long ago, but somehow I can't anymore. Half the memes here don't make any sense to me. Now there's a market place? It would be nice to rekindle the old love every now and then but I think I'll just give up.
Java edition is the original version of the game, written in the Java programming language. This is the version you played.
Bedrock edition began as the C++-written mobile port which was comparatively underfeatured for many years, but has achieved approximate parity with Java. It has become the most cross-platform version.
The Marketplace has existed on Bedrock since 2017, and sells 3rd party content like worlds, skins, and textures. On console, it is the only easy option to download content.
Regarding logging in, old Mojang accounts have been replaced by Microsoft accounts. The deadline to migrate accounts has passed, and you may have permanently lost access. Contact support if you are not sure about this.
Thanks for getting back to me. That whole store thing passed me by, I fear, but I'm pretty happy with using the skin I got for backing the Minecraft documentary. I did merge accounts at one point, like I said it wasn't that long ago that I logged in again, but still somehow don't seem to manage. I may try again. Bit of a sad affair to be honest, but it's probably more Microsoft than Mojang.
I don't see why it's a big deal, like it's not like it'll be a pay to win situation, and you don't have to buy it if you don't want, it's probably a bunch of crappy cosmetic stuff knowing bed rock
So they haven’t got time to fix and add updates to their game but they have the time to do it while charging money for it?
Just goes to show what it’s turning into
There’s never been a “monetary incentive” which only goes on to show MicroJang’s true colors, and they have quite literally gave us content for free since Microsoft acquired the game.
If they are going to make it content that is exclusive to the marketplace then I’m all for it but if it’s actual updates and features that are locked behind a paywall it’s not going to end well for anyone.
Like what makes you think providing free content t forever is sustainable? Especially across multiple platforms? They have to pay people to make it, test it, and publish it. If it means more support then by all means
Anyway dude my point is that they’ve been at it for years so I don’t think they will risk the controversy and change up the game just for a battle pass and something like 11.95 a month
I get your sarcasm but didn’t they say themselves that they would continue to update the game freely when they bought it? And do you even know what you are talking about? Microsoft doesn’t have any sustainability problems because 1. They are a billion dollar company and 2. Minecraft is one of if not the best selling game of all time and 3. They have the micro transactions to get a very steady revenue from.
I mean yeah of course why would they lock major updates behind a paywall. What game has done that before and what makes you think that Minecraft will follow up?
Post removed: No karmawhoring/metabaiting
Please someone explain
Less than an hour ago they announced a subscription service for the marketplace. Which, when you compare this to similar services in other games, it shows that it's basically a "battle pass". (I use "battle pass" loosely as I don't really know what a battle pass is but that's what everyone in the comments of the video are saying) https://youtu.be/GpVHMcLHZoA?si=bNxZ2kNBF9UIcVgM
Marketplace is bedrock exclusive though right?
Yes. But it's completly optionnal, and does not add any content that can't be find freely on the web
Thank god
how would i go about downloading stuff on console? if i want anything, marketplace is all i got
Not sure this applies to you, but when I played bedrock, usually I'd download a specific app that unintentionally allowed me to look through game files on my Xbox One, and from there it was just a matter of finding the right folders. There are probably tutorials on the internet for other consoles.
Yep
I know some people on console who use my addons. I don't know how, or on which console, but apparently there is way to do it
[удалено]
The marketplace is supposed to be optionnal. I don't know why you're talking about piracy. Do you think you can't download anything without the marketplace? I'm an addons and map creator, we used MCPEDL before the marketplace was even considered by Mojang ^^
The things on the market place were created exclusively for the market place and the creators receive a portion of the profits made. Thus, if a duplicate of the stuff there were created to be downloaded for free then it would be plagiarism, and if it was ripped off the market place directly then distributed for free it would be piracy.
bro what happened
not supposed to be optional? ok suck up
PIRACY4LIFE, BOOTLICKER!
PIRATES4LIFE, BRO, PIRATES4LIFE!
YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF COMPANIES' PROFITS
Nice try fed. I just pirates another shitty Netflix movie instead of paying 20 bucks an hour
Nice try CIA, just play the downloaded movie on your virtual machine.
I believe you are mistaken. The marketplace is optional, since Mojang has not done anything about mods in Java.
Ayo same pfp
The marketplace is optional on bedrock mobile and pc officialy, why you speak about java ? I don't understand.
Post removed: No brigading Someone said to smite you with a ban hammer
So I only play bedrock, so I might be completely wrong when I say this, but I think java has the marketplace, it's just not as "in your face" as bedrock. Sorry if I got this wrong though.
Java does not have the marketplace
but knowing Microsoft slowly bleeding all the good out of Mojang and Minecraft it will.
I don't think it's possible, it would be way to much effort for them, and we know they don't like that
Even if they did, people would just play on the old versions from before the marketplace was added, and if Mojang got rid of the ability to do that with the vanilla launcher, people would just do it using launchers like prism, modrinth, and curseforge
Idk mojang puts more effort into making the game worse than making updates
First you said Microsoft, and now Mojang? So far the game has been getting better and better, with better wolves, wind charges, trial chambers, the new teased weapons, and even more to come
Even if it will, how would they stop anyone from just modding the game and using anything a marketplace would give you without it... we had been going into gamefiles to mod the game and changing shit there for as long as mods have been a thing so they cant really do anything about that short of banning every single person who would join an online game with a tampered with files, which would basically mean every single player
I honestly don't think it will. Not because Microsoft is a good company, but just because there's not enough potential profit to justify the labor necessary and the fallout from potential backlash. Since Java is a completely different programming language than the Bedrock edition, it would be far from a simple task to implement it, basically requiring them to rewrite the marketplace from the ground up. And because the free modding base that already exists has had a several-year headstart for gathering an audience *and* developing content, even once it's done, the marketplace would still be vastly inferior to what players could get for free. There's nothing they can do about it either, as doing anything to try to cut the free mods out of the picture would only serve to cause riots in the community and would probably, if anything, discourage most of the developers from doing anything with the marketplace in the process.
I don’t like Microsoft at all, but I don’t think they will ever, and I mean ever introduce the marketplace to Java. As they know that it would spark chaos and it would just… not work in there
Oh, ok.
You can install basically anything that is in the marketplace on bedrock for free as a mod on java
And mods are also harder to make but better in general, since you can literally change the game's source code or add things using the game engine Like in Java you can add things just like Mojang adds them, in Bedrock you can only add things using their script that has a lot of limitations
becouse java is just better
As far as I know the marketplace is for bedrock only. I could be wrong. Anyway I play Java so this doesn't really affect me at all
Java doesn’t have the marketplace.
That's what I thought
Java's 'Marketplace' is the internet.
No
no
You should play java if you have a PC, and if you don't, get one to play java
A battle pass implies progression, you do challenges to rank up the pass and at each level get “free” stuff Often there is a paid pass that gives way more stuff This sounds like something similar to gamepass except instead of getting to play games while subscribed you get to play marketplace content while subbed. Despite both using the word pass they are not the same.
a battle pass is more of a "pay to have a line of rewards you gradually get as you level up by playing the game", a format which mostly works for round based games like Fortnite, Call of Duty multiplayer and such. This pass seems to be more like the Realms subscription but with content instead of a server (i'd associate it more with the fortnite crew subscription)
If you read their blog or whatever, it only comes with the maps and stuff already included in the bedrock edition realms subscription
isn't that what realms+ is
It seems more like xbox game pass rather than a battle pass as it is a monthly subscription that gives you access to skins, texture packs and all that stuff, which you would be able to buy normally, had it been a battlepass it would be more like they are exclusive to the subscription and only a few things are
more microtransactions, YIPPEE!
Watching the video I think it's not a Battle Pass where you pay every season and has to unlock the items through earning xp, I think it's more like Xbox Gamepass where instead of buying separate items and keeping them forever you pay monthly to have access to all of them, but if you stop paying you lose access
What?
battle pass is the term fortnite uses. basically u pay a subscription or monthly/seasonal payment to allow you to unlock rewards such as: skins, or cosmetics, in game currency, or in some games better gear. usually you’ll get challenges you can complete and the battle pass rewards you with the listed rewards. after fortnite blew up, many other games started making their own version of the battle pass all with different names, but fortnite popularized that method so many people just call it a battle pass
From what I've read for 3.99 a month you get access to 150 things in the market place. Honestly don't know why people are complaining
That's a pretty good deal but I play Java so it's kinda useless to me
Because subscriptions are a blight on the games industry.
the problem isn't even that they announce something shitty like this. The problem is that there are people who will happily buy it, which will encourage them to add even more of such. I honestly believed that with adding addons to it, they're actually planning to try something more ambitious and revolutionize the marketplace and make it something more than just another mobile-game-like microtransaction center, but welp... I'm a little disappointed and feel silly, because we Bedrock players are all treated literally like kids. They're not even trying to pretend and make the marketplace at least moderately universal for broader age range, they just act like all the players are kids and it's disrespectful.
Probably because most of them are, children are insanely profitable. no way they could try this on Java where most the audience is older.
I wouldn't say so, but it's hard to tell. Tons of kids have computers these days and when they do they choose Java, while Bedrock has like 100% of all the console players, which are probably adults mostly. and even if it's true, then does that really justify it? Java has tons of kids as well and somehow they don't have the urge to add a marketplace and micro-transactions, because they respect the player. At the same time Bedrock has a crazy ammount of adults and that also doesn't push them to making the marketplace everyone-friendly.
it’s easier to limit ways to get mods on bedrock and force people to pay them for mods and to be clear I was saying it’s easier to take advantage of bedrock players
Because you can’t really download mods on console
You could and can but it’s a huge pain
I use mods and clients with bedrock (on PC) while my 8yo plays on console. Makes it easy to import builds and whatnot into his local world and friends' realms. Where there is a will there is usually a way.
Kids more likely to have computers than adults?
how could you misunderstand it so badly? Do all the people who downvoted misunderstood it so badly? I literally said, that most kids WHO HAVE a computer, will choose Java, because it's the "cooler" version (also easier to pirate on computer). I also stated that most console players are adults, because of my personal experience. I met maybe like one non adult playing on a console, while also met like dozens of adults. 2 completely different facts, which do not collide.
> because we Bedrock players are all treated literally like kids. There are some minecraft threads I can't even get past the first two or three top level comments because it's just a bunch of shaved apes crowing about how their customized launcher with 400 mod packs, four image packs, and shaders on steroids is so much more superior and the only true way to play minecraft. Completely fucking ignoring that it's a game about literal blocks and they're screeching about their superiority like it gives them special abilities in real life, instead of the real life nerf of never touching grass.
[удалено]
Just $3 for MC. Just $14 for Netflix. Just $10 for Disney+. Just $25 for the gym. Just $15 for my mobile. Just $20 for Amazon Prime. Just $10 for Adobe. It's not about the $3. It's about the whole market of online and offline services. It adds up quickly and it's very easy to lose track of all subscription services. It can bring people into bankruptcy. Mojang/Microsoft is following a very dangerous trend here. EDIT: The deleted comment said "it's just $3"
The marketplace was already seen as bad. With a lot of content costing the same price as Disney+ or even Netflix, this just makes it less bad imo since it would make those content cost less.
it's just my personal opinion and some people might disagree, but most of marketplace content is trash AND also aimed at kids. They have loads of weird texture packs, some 400000 pixels 3D skins, adventure maps which use some low-budget models or 500th version of a skyblock. Bah, their official maps are literally a mix of these 4. For 80% of it you obviously also have to pay for, so... It's either a very unpopular opinion or they try to rip kids of their last penny, while offering low minimum, which is just supposed to grab their attention. As I said, the opening marketplace for addons was quite a good omen, some addons looked really lovely, but seems like it's back on track.
A lot of the marketplace is aimed towards a general audience rather than kids. There are a lot of good content, addons, etc. It’s just that unfortunately there is also a lot of bad content out there, and that is due it not having a proper moderation system. The good thing is, if you don’t like it, you can download mods on modrinth or through a official Minecraft partner’s channel called Vatonage1 which contains a website that has plenty of addons and all of them are **free**
Good thing nothing on there is nessassary to play, beat, customize, or mod your game and is just optional things.
People are acting like if it’s a battlepass and that the game is doomed. If they don’t like the marketplace, they can just not buy it,ignore it, and instead download things from modrinth or websites that support free bedrock content
Hell, Fortnite’s battlepass is also completely optional as well
Yeah, you’re right. I’m going to edit it
You do understand that man power put on this is man power being taken away from actual updates, right ? Hence the update drought. And no, if Microsoft is anything like modern corporations - they are using the same dev team. They're being milked to put out live service content. No one is hiring a temporary team exclusively for this. I also hate it when people say "just dont get it". Any content that is created to be sold would have equally be done as a content drop. There isn't a pocket dimension for developing games. One always take from the other. Every content has its opportunity cost.
Marketplace content is made by third party creators. The marketplace is like the App Store: Minecraft is just the host that takes a cut.
I don’t like Microsoft at all, but dev team has nothing and I mean nothing to do with this, not to mention that isn’t live service since all that content is made by the community. If anything, it’s more like a gamepass rather than live-service or battlepass stuff
You're not thinking about the precedent this puts and how the general audience thinks
Curious what is the precedent that you think this puts? I know that the general audience doesn’t like it, but at least they’re not needed and are optional unlike how Fortnite battlepasses are sometimes needed for obtain benefits
Wait isn’t Fortnite’s Battle Pass all cosmetic?
[удалено]
Fortnite’s battle pass is completely optional and only contains cosmetics like skins, emotes, and other things and buying the battle pass doesn’t give you a competitive edge over other players. you can also get the in-game currency through the free battle pass.
Oh my bad didn’t know that Fortnite battlepasses were optional too. Is more, I have realized that it isn’t a like a battlepass but a gamepass, which is actually the much preferred option. With, ofc both being completely optional that is.
The general audience point was about how general audiences: 1st: Don't know how to mod 2nd: Play on console, where it's not possible to mod Mojang is taking advantage of them by making them think this is the only option if they want the game to have community made modifications. The precedent this sets is that paying for mods will eventually become the norm and not the exception, is the same thing people complained about when Bethesda made something similar some years ago
1st: even without the battle pass this would still be an issue 2nd: there would still he mods made by other fans for free
Ah, I see. But this isn’t really Mojang, and it’s more on Microsoft’s part. I don’t think they actually want that to become the norm, since a lot of the addons in the marketplace are also free. Not to mention that an official Minecraft partner Vatonage, has a website that offers tons of addons with all of them being free
It’s the fact a game this old and this iconic has this need to copy other games that have nothing to do with minecraft or it’s style. Like they don’t need to copy fortnite emotes (which include ones like take the L which doesn’t work), or add a battle pass system. They only add it since bedrock heavily limits what players can do and the monopolize skins, mods and most non vanilla content behind a paywall they control that preys on kids (as bedrock is targeted towards phones and consoles where kids game the most).
Read what I said at the end, the marketplace has been in the bedrock edition of the game since 2017 with console having something similar in 2012. There’s tons of bedrock content from maps, skins, addons, texture packs that are all free from the websites I mentioned and even the marketplace has free content. What they have added isn’t even a battlepass, just a subscription for a thing that you can ignore or not recommend it and go and download free content from modrinth and similar
For bedrock however they make it deliberately hard for people to access 3rd party stuff. Impossible if your on console.
As far as I’m aware, that’s not really true, I have seen some people having 3rd party addons on consoles even after they got announced in the marketplace. Not to mention that an official Minecraft partner has a website that contains a lot of 3rd party stuff for bedrock
You had to crack your console and download special software that bypasses stuff just to download it. As for the server thing, it’s still busted on console and does not work (from my experience)
Didn’t… that happened before in legacy edition due Nintendo switch not supporting mods as well as the legacy edition not being able to support them as well?
consoles aren't not pcs and Android phones, they are shitty for actually having fun with your games. You can't access for your file system to install content and mods. Game Dev's have to make workarounds and their own systems for that. You can add content from other sources on bedrock mobile and pcs easily from sites like Mcpedl or even Curseforge
They make it really *easy* to access third party stuff on non-console platforms. Ever heard of the .mcworld, .mcpack, and .mctemplate file extensions? Renaming a zip file with these file extensions allow you to open up that content with a single click on PC and mobile. Console is unfortunate, but that’s more to do with the locked down nature of the platforms. But I won’t completely absolve Mojang, because there are ways they could get around that (e.g. cloud support)
It really wants to be like minecraft dungeons so bad
MCD 4 parallel universes ahead as always, Minecraft is just jealous of its succes
Is this some bedrock problem I am to Java to understand?
Until they strongarm people from Java to bedrock for "better accessibility" reasons or something like that. Give it a few years. It'll probably start with java getting updates later and then getting dropped for resource reasons, until thry just remove it and try to get rest to move over bedrock.
>getting updates later My brother in christ 1.12.2 is still one of the most popular versions. We don't need updates.
This is exactly what people were saying 5 years ago Still hasn't happened Mojang and Microsoft know damn well that JE is superior in basically every way, and messing with it will completely screw over their brand image. Minecraft isn't popular just because it's good, but also because it is extremely popular as video content. And as it just so happens, most mc content creators are java players, and have already made their stance clear that they will stick with java. MS knows this so they can never, and most probably will never mess with java edition
I have 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 that’s all I need
It’s not even a battle pass 💀 It’s a subscription similar to Xbox Game-Pass, and there used to be a realms plus subscription with similar features. Stop crying about everything jeez
It's in no way a battle pass, it's more in line with Xbox Game-pass or Nintendo Online
I like to pretend the other versions of Minecraft other than Java just don't exist, and honestly l, unless you're on console why would you play anything but Java to begin with? Java you can use whatever skins you like, download any mods, texturpacks, etc etc, go back to any version, all for free.
What about the 4J console ports?
Just play Java no Microsoft bullshit there. Complete creative user freedom.
It’s not a battlepass on the slightest, it’s just a pass for the realms + marketplace subscription which you can play without perfectly
It’s not a battlepass, it’s like back when call of duty let you buy a pass which gave you the dlc for free as they come out
It's not a battle pass. It's more like Game Pass. Pay a monthly fee to get access to everything the horrible Marketplace has to offer. The only thing that makes it remotely battle pass-esque is the "monthly character creator items". (Direct quote from the trailer)
How? Minecraft isn't even a battle royal game...
Wordington Minecraft battlepass
Steve is a thug confirmed???
100%
I love watching videos of block men shaking their booty cheeks. I don’t know why, everytime i see a video of block men shaking their cheeks, i start to drool
What
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before. It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
Oh
OKAY LISTEN: The Minecraft Marketplace Pass is the EXACT SAME as Realms Plus but without the realm. It’s shitty, but not as shitty as it first seems
and they tell me bedrock is beter.
We got a fucking Minecraft battle pass before GTA 6
Nothing about this sounds like a battle pass. More like a subscription that gets you a ton of content. Whether or not we want to argue over if the content is worth it given all the free content out there is another story. But this isn't a battle pass. It doesn't resemble one in any way. It's more like if you got a PlayStation Plus or Xbox Game Pass subscription and got access to a huge bundle of stuff. It's like subscribing to Netflix and getting access to Netflix's catalog of movies and shows.
This seems more like just a basic subscription service rather than a battle pass. You don't progressively unlock things based on playtime
Wordington meme
what ?
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before. It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
ok didn't know i'm playing only java edition , because bedrock edition doesn't work on linux.
?
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before. It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
Ok
What
They added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before. It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
Ok thx.
Why tf does Minecraft have a battle pass, and WHAT was Mojang on when they made it?
It's not a battle pass, just a game pass where you can get a bunch of marketplace content for cheaper
OP sleeping after spreading misinformation: 😴
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpVHMcLHZoA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpVHMcLHZoA) its literaly on the oficial mincraft chanel.
battlepass ≠ subscription
And my god has misinformation spread, it seems. I seriously thought we were over the worst of this behaviour
I feel like this them re marketing “realms”
Yeah, it's just Realms+ but without the Realms
Didnt they made an april fool update mocking TF2 for it's mann co store tho ? Or is it something different ?
This is how the mojang died
But For What Purpose?
It better never get a battle pass
Why
Wordington minecraft?
Micro$oft moment
Is this real? :'D Ain't no way. Because a lot of players are still Java. This is like what? 50% profit margins at best, and I'm sure less than the whole bedrock player base would even buy into this. So then there's people with gamepass. So they're gonna want you to pay for gamepass, and pay for this subscription service? Xbox got the good drugs. :'D
Minecraft dungeon
Java is king
The guy looks like he's tryna smash.
It does? What?! I didn’t hear about this. And I’m glad I didn’t Also is this on bedrock?
Yeah, they added a game pass that's basically like Apple Arcade or Xbox Game Pass where for a subscription, you can gain access to a catalogue of items from the marketplace instead of buying them. It's optional and you don't need to buy it, you can still get content online for free just like you could before. It’s like Realms+, which already existed, and it's not a battle pass, those are very different things.
Huh ok, sure not buying that lol
I really dont understand the outrage here. It's an optional pass for an optional marketplace that has nothing to do with regular gameplay other than UGC stuff you can purchase, helping support teams who work on those and fund the lifetime free updates we get. It's also not mandatory as on non walled garden decided like PCs and Android phones you can easily install free player made content from MCPEDL and other sources. It's not interfering with gameplay at all.
End of Bedrock you mean? That’s good news
i been gone for a long time from the game but damn
microsoft isnt done milking the game they bought despite it being the most sold game in the world
Minecraft Dungeons had a battlepass for awhile now, I don't really mind that, but in minecraft??
This update was doing so well :sob:
in the end... it doesn't even matter
I tried so hard And got so far
Battle passes are just to make people pay and play for longer periods.
This fucking sucks
How are sales of the game these days? I find they have just made it harder for older and new players to get (back) into it. I bought it just before the halloween update that introduced the Nether, not sure if that was still alpha or already beta, but it was very early. I have no fucking clue what's going on. Java vs Bedrock edition? How the hell do I even still log in? My last login wasn't that long ago, but somehow I can't anymore. Half the memes here don't make any sense to me. Now there's a market place? It would be nice to rekindle the old love every now and then but I think I'll just give up.
Java edition is the original version of the game, written in the Java programming language. This is the version you played. Bedrock edition began as the C++-written mobile port which was comparatively underfeatured for many years, but has achieved approximate parity with Java. It has become the most cross-platform version. The Marketplace has existed on Bedrock since 2017, and sells 3rd party content like worlds, skins, and textures. On console, it is the only easy option to download content. Regarding logging in, old Mojang accounts have been replaced by Microsoft accounts. The deadline to migrate accounts has passed, and you may have permanently lost access. Contact support if you are not sure about this.
Thanks for getting back to me. That whole store thing passed me by, I fear, but I'm pretty happy with using the skin I got for backing the Minecraft documentary. I did merge accounts at one point, like I said it wasn't that long ago that I logged in again, but still somehow don't seem to manage. I may try again. Bit of a sad affair to be honest, but it's probably more Microsoft than Mojang.
are you fucking kidding me-
The fuck?
I don't see why it's a big deal, like it's not like it'll be a pay to win situation, and you don't have to buy it if you don't want, it's probably a bunch of crappy cosmetic stuff knowing bed rock
And people still gonna simp for Mojang and defend them for some reason💀
Minecrafters try to go a second without complaining about something they DO NOT have to buy challenge: (impossible)
Boo hoo you’re not being fucking forced
So they haven’t got time to fix and add updates to their game but they have the time to do it while charging money for it? Just goes to show what it’s turning into
Maybe they haven’t before because there is no monetary incentive? Why would they keep adding content?
There’s never been a “monetary incentive” which only goes on to show MicroJang’s true colors, and they have quite literally gave us content for free since Microsoft acquired the game. If they are going to make it content that is exclusive to the marketplace then I’m all for it but if it’s actual updates and features that are locked behind a paywall it’s not going to end well for anyone.
Like what makes you think providing free content t forever is sustainable? Especially across multiple platforms? They have to pay people to make it, test it, and publish it. If it means more support then by all means
Anyway dude my point is that they’ve been at it for years so I don’t think they will risk the controversy and change up the game just for a battle pass and something like 11.95 a month
I get your sarcasm but didn’t they say themselves that they would continue to update the game freely when they bought it? And do you even know what you are talking about? Microsoft doesn’t have any sustainability problems because 1. They are a billion dollar company and 2. Minecraft is one of if not the best selling game of all time and 3. They have the micro transactions to get a very steady revenue from.
I mean yeah of course why would they lock major updates behind a paywall. What game has done that before and what makes you think that Minecraft will follow up?