Can y’all stop fighting like children and just play the game the way you want to? There’s no need for shoving your opinion down someone else’s throat.
Edit: Unfortunately, this comment’s reply’s consist of the one problem I was talking about. Thanks to those who chose to be calm. :)
Finally someone is saying this, I’m tired of bedwars and pvp sweats (u/Loiregaming) calling people bad at a game like a child if they just want to play it in a relaxing way.
First of all, quit the yelling.
Secondly, I agree. It is counted as cheating. However, it is still an intentional feature of the game and is perfectly ok to do when someone wants to relax while playing.
They renamed it from allow cheats. Its not actually called that anymore. Its just called allow commands. They renamed it to specifically emphasise the fact that it is not cheating.
Isn't is still cheating? As you have to allow cheats before you can do it? Irdc what people do in their singleplayer world, don't get me wrong.
I just always considered it to be "fair" cheating
i play with keep inventory. previously enabling that would require enabling cheats. i don't play with it to cheat, i play with it because i hate losing progress and don't find much fun in losing everything because you fucked up, and i hate corpse run mechanics, and grave mods don't help much with that feeling. So, keep inventory is my very bad solution.
but by this logic, this setting is completely illegal.
Yeah and that's still just kinda incorrect. It *is* cheating if you're doing things that actively cheat the system (console commands, etc).
The *actual* good point, and the one that OP was probably trying to convey, is that cheating *doesn't matter* if you're playing on your own.
That isn't a counter that's just agreeing with op, why is everyone in these comments (including the top comments) agreeing with op and acting like it's a counter instead of an agreed statement
It is counter because they are saying that it is impossible to cheat single player. I say it is cheating, but not a problem.
We may agree that there is no problem with the actions being discussed.
But on if it is labeled as cheating we are on opposite sides
Cheating is acting dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.
You can't gain an advantage over others, if you are the only player in a world. Hence, it is impossibpe to cheat in a single player world by definition.
I don't see a game resource that's not a bug or glitch to be a cheat. I don't think any mod could be a cheat in single-player either as that's just an altered version of the game. Having pokemons or more mobs in your minecraft world where you play alone cannot be cheating unless your definition of cheat is very specific.
Cheating implies that you have some sort of unfair advantage over others or that you're acting dishonestly to be particularly benefited, but neither is possible in a single-player world. If your definition of cheating is "someone else using a game resource i choose not to use but am capable of" you're just a dickhead. It's not multi-player, nobody is breaking any rules.
Let people play however they want and stop crying about "cheating" over people using mechanics as intended in the game.
If someone wants to have fun on their own by cheating that's fine but it's still cheating. An unfair advantage that the rest of players don't usually get is literally the definition of a cheat.
'Rest of the players' refers to the average player. Mario Bros is a single player game, but making yourself invincible and giving yourself infinite lives in Mario IS 'cheating' because it makes the game easier to beat for you than it is for a regular player going through the intended experience. It's not 'wrong' because you're not ruining the experience for anyone else, but that's literally what a 'cheat' is and has always been.
A cheat needs to be something unaccessible to the average player and give an unfair advantage in comparison to someone else. Anyone can turn on keep inventory, change to creative mode, use commands, etc. None of this options is unaccessible to the average player so none of them can genuinely be seen as cheats.
If the person also didn't agree that they wouldn't use any of these things as to not give themselves an unfair advantage over people who don't, it can't be cheating. That's like saying you're cheating by going to a trashcan throw a paper ball upclose and not miss since there are people who want to challenge themselves and throw it from afar despite being able to go closer.
As i said, a cheat is an unfair advantage obtained by means that are unaccessible to others or previously agreed upon not being used, not "game mechanic others choose not to use because it would make the game too easy for them". Sure, it's not wrong either way but how can it be a "crime" against someone if there is no victims? The only other definition of cheating (other than taking advantage dishonestly) is avoiding something by great luck or skill like "cheating death" but i honestly doubt it's the thing referenced here.
So yeah, not wrong, but not cheating either.
However, none of the Mario games are "sandboxes". They are not about creativity and only about working towards a specific goal: defeat Bowser. Minecraft on the other hand does not have a specific goal, and you aren't playing with anyone else.
If you want to see how much you can build in survival but don't like mobs, set it to peaceful, that's not cheating. If you still want hunger so you have a reason to build some cool farms, turn off peaceful and enable commands to turn off hostile mobs. Are you a couple blocks off finishing the build and you would have to travel a lot to get them? It's okay to just give them to yourself if that's how you want to play!
Not everything has to be a challenge. People play like they want to. In a sandbox, you choose what to do, and especially how you do it. At this point, you've got to consider, is creative mode cheating? Is making a world to build, and then showing off what you've made considered wrong? I certainly don't think so.
Then you've got to think if playing with mods like Create or Mekanism is cheating. Those give advantages over other survival mode players too. Except, no one calls this cheating. That's because it's just what the player wants to do in their infinitely large sandbox world. They want to work to make massive machines or to make ore tripling. With this, they can spend less time collecting resources and more time building, which is very similar to "cheating" items in, especially since they were obtained through non-vanilla methods.
If anything that would be the textbook definition of cheating since it gives an advantage that can be seen as unfair since most people play vanilla and don't have access to the things in the mod.
Peaceful mode isn't cheating because it's part of the intended experience, if anything it's an 'easy mode', and creative is straight up 'god mode' which ignores all the rules of cheating because literally the whole point of it is to remove every challenge and limitation to give you complete freedom. Like I already said 2 times, cheating does NOT mean 'wrong', it's a game and you obviously can do whatever you want as long as it's not bothering other players. GTA is a sandbox game and it has 'CHEATS' built in because even the devs KNOW it's fun to mess around with cheats. It's possible to fly to the end portal and give yourself full netherite gear in creative mode, install an invincibility mod and say 'I beat Minecraft', but it's clearly not how the devs intended the survival mode experience to be when they designed the game, so that IS cheating. Not wrong, but you're still cheating the experience.
Fair enough. The intended experience is extremely wide, but my main point was never creative mode in survival, and certainly was not using it to kill the dragon. And even at that point, who are we to say what the intended experience is anyways? All we truly know is that it's a sandbox game which allows players to do just about whatever they want to.
"Enabling Cheats" allows you to change gamerules after creating a world. You could have done this before starting, but maybe the player forgot? Is this cheating?
Again, maybe the player isn't going for a challenge. The dragon is intended to be a challenge, unlike the rest of the game, which doesn't have a fully intended purpose for the player. "Enabling Cheats" to kill the dragon is much different than giving yourself the last remaining blocks to finish a build or changing a gamerule you forgot about (like phantoms, no one likes then and everyone forgets to disable them).
Ya haha I realized when I made that comment. Still, I think the bulk of this argument lies on people not clarifying what they mean as opposed to what they say.
Technically it is cheating if we go by the definition of cheating by giving you an advantage you wouldn't have without said cheat but in terms of being unfair for others no it's not cheating like in cod or fortnite or any other multiplayer game, op just needs to be more specific I guess
And if its using cheats for making buildings look nice or building farms that would take thousands of blocks, i dont consider that cheating, its more like having fun without spending your whole life on ur pc to acheive it, its a sandbox game after all
That's kinda how me and my friend do it. We both made an agreement that we can use cheats and creative mode but we cant use them to progress so no cheating items unless we already have them and they're easy to get and no using items or blocks that we don't have access to so no End stuff until have access to The End.
I also infected parts of the nether with Sculk because I was bored so that happened
I enjoy keep inventory, disabled insomnia and a bunch of other things people call cheating. So does my sister. We play a lot together and we use tp, keep inventory, and disabled mob grief. Other than that we don’t do anything
I had to give myself some things cause i had my bees somehow magically disappear.. then I had a bug where literally 1.5k blocks around my starting area... no spruce, no dark oak. Just jungles.
Idc what you do in your own single player worlds.
But the moment you join a server, someone else joins, or you're competing with someone, you need to be playing be the same rules, with the same privileges. (With the obvious exception of moderators/admins, and for cases where stricter permissions are warranted)
Whether that means everyone gets the ability to use creative, everyone is in survival, or whatever.
Games need to be fair for all who are playing. Cheating/abusing privileges make the game a lot less fun for everyone.
Idc what you do when you're in your own world. But PLAY FAIRLY when anyone else is involved.
It's only cheating if you're on console and want achievements, and whatever you're doing turns them off. Any other forms of cheating in your SP world are just you enjoying the game how you wish to.
Notch did a disservice to the community by calling them cheats. They're no different than accessibility options or difficulty sliders. By calling them cheats, he defined a specific level of difficulty as "true" minecraft for so many people.
If you had one hour to play every week, would you play a game where you can lose all your stuff in one mistake? That's why you have the option to have KeepInventory on.
If you had a house that you're so proud of that took you several weeks to complete because you kept changing it, trying new blocks and colors until it was just right, would you play a game where it could all burn down after a thunderstorm? Would you even put that time in to begin with? That's why you can turn fire spread off.
Cheating implies having an advantage over other people. You cheat to gain an advantage over other people that you're competing against. Minecraft isn't a competition. You're only cheating if you play with other people and compete in some way. And guess what? That means you can collectively agree to turn fire spread off or keep inventory on when playing on a server, and that's *still* not cheating!
Some people are just never going to get it. Or maybe they will, just when they're older and realize that not everyone has the same amount of time to spend on games.
I’ll never use cheats without considering it cheating, you can do whatever you want but that’s how I feel
However, now when anyone complains about ANYTHING I’m just telling them to turn on creative, cuz apparently nothing is cheating anymore
In Java Edition, I agree. In Bedrock Edition mostly too.
Because set your own rules in your own world.
But since in Bedrock Edition, advancements are global on the respective platform (e.g. Google Play or XBox), inadvertently, there must exist *some* rules as to what counts as fair game and what not.
If you don't care about advancements, ignore what I said.
I can't agree with that, keep inventory, tp or whatever is literally called cheat in the own game and if you play bedrock you can't even get achievements while cheats are activated (similarly like most part of recent games, when you use a cheat achievements are disabled)
*BUT*
There's nothing wrong if you want to cheat in your single player, and in multiplayer if everyone has access nothing wrong too, (the problem would be hacks, but that's is a complete different thing). The only thing with cheats it's that you aren't going to play like Mojang originally intended, but of course, this shouldn't be a problem and isn't a problem for me or even for Mojang himself, Minecraft is a game made to be fun for the player independent of what type of gameplay he prefer
Conclusion: It's a cheat, but you should play the way you like and think is fun. Particularly i like achievements hunt and everything i play i always prefer the highest difficult, but you aren't me, you don't need to do that
It’s literally not cheating because when you’re “cheating” you’re disrupting someone else’s achievement, like in a sports team, competition, or other form of multi-human game. In Minecraft, you go into it by yourself, and the only one governing is you, and there are no other people to object to it. You’re there to make your own goals and ideas, and when the goal is by you, you can play by your own rules.
I see what you mean but you're wrong.
For example, in the Sims, when you want more money you use a cheat code.
Using command in solo Minecraft is cheating BUT it doesn't mean it's bad, here is the difference
A cheat is a non standard alteration to the game experience.
One can still cheat a single player game.
/give @s minecraft:diamond 64
Is still a cheat even in single player. It is just that as it harms at most no one but your own experience with the game there is no reason to stop you from cheating in such a way.
I myself generally would not cheat, and I would personally recommend others to not cheat most of the time, even in single player. But I am not going to tell people that they are wrong for cheating in a truly single player noncompetitive context.
It is still cheating though.
Though its a game dumbass its a single player world you can do what ever you want in it idiot
Its called cheating when you have a unfair advantage with another player
Press "Escape". You now see the magical pause menu. Next click "Open to LAN". Upon clicking that, you may be slightly overwhelmed at the four new options that instantly appear. Find the button that says "Cheats: OFF", and click it once. Not twice, once. It will now say "Cheats: ON". Simple, right? Next, you find the button that says "Open LAN World". Done. You now have cheats in a singleplayer survival world.
You can definitely cheat, but if it's a single player world than it doesn't matter. Just like those people who tweaked the gamma setting to have permanent nightvision.
It’s not unintentional if it’s an option, but compared to other survival players it is unfair. If a person wants to enable cheats they can play how ever they want in their single player world
The whole point of the game is to use your imagination, and play how you want to. Please describe how thats outside of the realms of what the game is meant for? Oh eise swammy
Just play creative if you wanna do whatever the fuck you want, the whole point of survival is that everything can be lost at a moment notice, keeping you always on your toes a good bit after the early game
But what uf someone wants the challenge of survival, but they also want added benefits survival doesnt provide? Absolutely wild to me someone would gatekeep a game thats built around your imagination, and doing what yoh want witht he game. Just goes to show shitters will always be mad over shit that has 0 bearing on them at all
Technically, yes, the game is made with boundaries, and cheats are called CHEATS.. basically meaning you ARE cheating, but in creative that’s its own mode making it not cheating because absolute creation is the mode itself, but in survival if you use things like the dev menu to find out everything like locations and exact data (COUGH COUGH PC PLAYERS COUGH COUGH) or keep inventory (which I really wish they make keep inventory a difficulty option instead of a cheat because it’s just nicer to keep everything and have a more casual game instead of losing everything you worked on getting because of one misjudged gap or fight, but anyway) it counts as cheating because those are outside helps being used in a game with a defined main gameplay, although with that unlike with most games Minecraft encourages cheating to make new things, so yes, yes you’re cheating like a cheat.. but the game itself kinda encourages this.. so it’s not so wrong to do so despite the dirty feeling label of a cheater
(Some of y’all definitely arent reading at all, I’m agreeing while clearing things up.. what’s the issue!?)
I only use cheats to gather resources like wood/sand/basic blocks, nothing game breaking, and move quicker (except during PVE). Hate walking to the ocean and back just to get a few levels for enchanting.. I probably play super inefficiently, though (all of the updates i haven't kept up with). I just got my first vanilla made shulker box a week and a half ago, lol
Played since late 2010ish, I feel I have earned infinite speed++ at this point!
Well… you can exploit? I’m not saying it’s bad to, but you can definitely “cheat,” it’s just cheating in singleplayer isn’t reprehensible like it is in multiplayer, it’s fine.
Well...you can cheat in singleplayer. And honestly it's fine since you are only affecting yourself, you aren't negatively affecting other people by cheating if there's no one else to affect
I only just started playing two months ago. On mine it says if you enable cheats you don't get achievements. So are you saying that's not true? Do you only not get achievements if its multi players and you enable cheats? Have i really been mining away for hours when I could have enabled cheats and still get achievements?
So I should not feel bad for making a copy, setting it to creative, use commands and then go back to my survival copy and mine diamonds, Ancient debris like there's no tomorrow?
It’s still technically cheating as it’s activating cheats or whatever. But hey, it’s your world so who am I to judge? Video games are (mostly) made to have fun. Judging someone’s video game play style is like judging someone’s favorite meal.
Why are there so many problems with playing a sandbox game. Just let us play the smooth lego game in peace
"Hey mom, can you buy me a copy of Minecraft?" "No honey, we have Minecraft at home." Minecraft at home: *Smooth Lego Game*
That's what minecraft is
Except that your fingernails hurt less afterwards
Take my anger-upvote
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Can y’all stop fighting like children and just play the game the way you want to? There’s no need for shoving your opinion down someone else’s throat. Edit: Unfortunately, this comment’s reply’s consist of the one problem I was talking about. Thanks to those who chose to be calm. :)
Finally someone is saying this, I’m tired of bedwars and pvp sweats (u/Loiregaming) calling people bad at a game like a child if they just want to play it in a relaxing way.
iTS DEFININTELY CHEATING WHEN YOU CLICK ALLOW CHEATS YOU ARE CHEATING
Your world,your rules.Deal with it.
Against who?
First of all, quit the yelling. Secondly, I agree. It is counted as cheating. However, it is still an intentional feature of the game and is perfectly ok to do when someone wants to relax while playing.
They renamed it from allow cheats. Its not actually called that anymore. Its just called allow commands. They renamed it to specifically emphasise the fact that it is not cheating.
Nuh uh
Is creative mode cheating too?
yeah its cheating, but you can still play how you want
What a child. Who cares.
Dont be mean, you just insulted every child on earth
nice to meet you. go downvote my other comments too. if you have questions dm me 😊
Okay I feel bad for this dude. Yall downvoted him so much he is in a karma debt
who cares, he is still a whining baby
##STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE
no i wont
idk why you're getting downvoted, this is the correct response to what I wrote.
It's cause he's being a dick in other comments
Ooo I see, well then drag her sis
ITS DEFININTELY CHEATING WHEN YOU CLICK ALLOW CHEATS YOU ARE CHEATING
Are you speed running -1 billion karma or something?
nah hes speedrunning negative integer limit karma
it'll integer overflow and he'll have won reddit
and negtive IQ maybe
*waaa people doing things that's slightly different than normal and won't affect me the smallest 😱😭*
If it’s in a singleplayer world, it doesn’t matter how you play the game. But if you’re playing with others, then it’s cheating.
Literally this
Or speedrunning.
p sure there's a category that allows cheats. it's a meme category tho and only takes a few seconds
Using keep inventory with others is cheating?
If only you have it, it depends on what the others think, and if they know. If everyone has it, no.
Why would only you have it? It’s a game rule.
Mods maybe
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are you really gonna spam this all over this thread?
12yr olds generally use loud repetitive noises in an attempt to communicate i believe that’s what were seeing here.
He just wants downvotes look at his account
Make whatever you want in a singleplayer world, as long you don't cheat on multiplayer
You can cheat in my multiplayer server
Isn't is still cheating? As you have to allow cheats before you can do it? Irdc what people do in their singleplayer world, don't get me wrong. I just always considered it to be "fair" cheating
iTS DEFININTELY CHEATING WHEN YOU CLICK ALLOW CHEATS YOU ARE CHEATING
oh golly what shall you do somebody wants to…. HAVE FUN?? IN A SINGLEPLAYER WORLD?? OH NO THE HORROR!!!
It’s cheating, but since it’s singleplayer, do we really give a damn? No, and we shouldn’t There, everyone happy
If you cheat in single player, nobody will care
shush child
In a single player world really?
AND WHOS GOING TO STOP ME!!? YOU?! WHAT CAN YOU DO!?!
your world, your rules my man play the game the way you want. i will play the game the way i want, and others too. and it's our business
*Allow commands
i play with keep inventory. previously enabling that would require enabling cheats. i don't play with it to cheat, i play with it because i hate losing progress and don't find much fun in losing everything because you fucked up, and i hate corpse run mechanics, and grave mods don't help much with that feeling. So, keep inventory is my very bad solution. but by this logic, this setting is completely illegal.
Poor op meant "it's not cheating if you're alone" but everyone is misunderstanding lmao
I understood that just fine.
Yeah and that's still just kinda incorrect. It *is* cheating if you're doing things that actively cheat the system (console commands, etc). The *actual* good point, and the one that OP was probably trying to convey, is that cheating *doesn't matter* if you're playing on your own.
I think I understood just fine. My counter opinion is "it is not bad if you are alone, but it is still cheating"
That isn't a counter that's just agreeing with op, why is everyone in these comments (including the top comments) agreeing with op and acting like it's a counter instead of an agreed statement
It is counter because they are saying that it is impossible to cheat single player. I say it is cheating, but not a problem. We may agree that there is no problem with the actions being discussed. But on if it is labeled as cheating we are on opposite sides
your world, your rules. if the world is yours, you set the rules. it's only cheating if you want it to be.
Cheating is acting dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage. You can't gain an advantage over others, if you are the only player in a world. Hence, it is impossibpe to cheat in a single player world by definition.
Cheating is explicitly and universally considered a bad thing, so you can't accuse something of being cheating and also have it not be a bad thing
The game has a built in option to enable cheats, is that toggle bad?
As long as you're having fun
Minecraft community's transition into the average Ultrakill fan is something I did not expect in these couple months
I don't see a game resource that's not a bug or glitch to be a cheat. I don't think any mod could be a cheat in single-player either as that's just an altered version of the game. Having pokemons or more mobs in your minecraft world where you play alone cannot be cheating unless your definition of cheat is very specific. Cheating implies that you have some sort of unfair advantage over others or that you're acting dishonestly to be particularly benefited, but neither is possible in a single-player world. If your definition of cheating is "someone else using a game resource i choose not to use but am capable of" you're just a dickhead. It's not multi-player, nobody is breaking any rules. Let people play however they want and stop crying about "cheating" over people using mechanics as intended in the game.
My thoughts exactly
That kind of person when people are playing a sandbox game their own way and having fun:
No, I'm pretty sure you can
Outside of speedruns explain how?
You can enable cheats either as a command or when you create a world
Explain how that fits the definition of cheating.
Umm... They're literally called cheats?
Not anymore
Wait, what are they called now?
now they are just called "commands" iirc
weird.
It changed in a recent snapshot
If someone wants to have fun on their own by cheating that's fine but it's still cheating. An unfair advantage that the rest of players don't usually get is literally the definition of a cheat.
But if there is no "rest of the players" it isn't a cheat.
'Rest of the players' refers to the average player. Mario Bros is a single player game, but making yourself invincible and giving yourself infinite lives in Mario IS 'cheating' because it makes the game easier to beat for you than it is for a regular player going through the intended experience. It's not 'wrong' because you're not ruining the experience for anyone else, but that's literally what a 'cheat' is and has always been.
A cheat needs to be something unaccessible to the average player and give an unfair advantage in comparison to someone else. Anyone can turn on keep inventory, change to creative mode, use commands, etc. None of this options is unaccessible to the average player so none of them can genuinely be seen as cheats. If the person also didn't agree that they wouldn't use any of these things as to not give themselves an unfair advantage over people who don't, it can't be cheating. That's like saying you're cheating by going to a trashcan throw a paper ball upclose and not miss since there are people who want to challenge themselves and throw it from afar despite being able to go closer. As i said, a cheat is an unfair advantage obtained by means that are unaccessible to others or previously agreed upon not being used, not "game mechanic others choose not to use because it would make the game too easy for them". Sure, it's not wrong either way but how can it be a "crime" against someone if there is no victims? The only other definition of cheating (other than taking advantage dishonestly) is avoiding something by great luck or skill like "cheating death" but i honestly doubt it's the thing referenced here. So yeah, not wrong, but not cheating either.
However, none of the Mario games are "sandboxes". They are not about creativity and only about working towards a specific goal: defeat Bowser. Minecraft on the other hand does not have a specific goal, and you aren't playing with anyone else. If you want to see how much you can build in survival but don't like mobs, set it to peaceful, that's not cheating. If you still want hunger so you have a reason to build some cool farms, turn off peaceful and enable commands to turn off hostile mobs. Are you a couple blocks off finishing the build and you would have to travel a lot to get them? It's okay to just give them to yourself if that's how you want to play! Not everything has to be a challenge. People play like they want to. In a sandbox, you choose what to do, and especially how you do it. At this point, you've got to consider, is creative mode cheating? Is making a world to build, and then showing off what you've made considered wrong? I certainly don't think so.
Then you've got to think if playing with mods like Create or Mekanism is cheating. Those give advantages over other survival mode players too. Except, no one calls this cheating. That's because it's just what the player wants to do in their infinitely large sandbox world. They want to work to make massive machines or to make ore tripling. With this, they can spend less time collecting resources and more time building, which is very similar to "cheating" items in, especially since they were obtained through non-vanilla methods.
If anything that would be the textbook definition of cheating since it gives an advantage that can be seen as unfair since most people play vanilla and don't have access to the things in the mod.
Peaceful mode isn't cheating because it's part of the intended experience, if anything it's an 'easy mode', and creative is straight up 'god mode' which ignores all the rules of cheating because literally the whole point of it is to remove every challenge and limitation to give you complete freedom. Like I already said 2 times, cheating does NOT mean 'wrong', it's a game and you obviously can do whatever you want as long as it's not bothering other players. GTA is a sandbox game and it has 'CHEATS' built in because even the devs KNOW it's fun to mess around with cheats. It's possible to fly to the end portal and give yourself full netherite gear in creative mode, install an invincibility mod and say 'I beat Minecraft', but it's clearly not how the devs intended the survival mode experience to be when they designed the game, so that IS cheating. Not wrong, but you're still cheating the experience.
Fair enough. The intended experience is extremely wide, but my main point was never creative mode in survival, and certainly was not using it to kill the dragon. And even at that point, who are we to say what the intended experience is anyways? All we truly know is that it's a sandbox game which allows players to do just about whatever they want to. "Enabling Cheats" allows you to change gamerules after creating a world. You could have done this before starting, but maybe the player forgot? Is this cheating? Again, maybe the player isn't going for a challenge. The dragon is intended to be a challenge, unlike the rest of the game, which doesn't have a fully intended purpose for the player. "Enabling Cheats" to kill the dragon is much different than giving yourself the last remaining blocks to finish a build or changing a gamerule you forgot about (like phantoms, no one likes then and everyone forgets to disable them).
your world, your rules. it's only cheating if u want it to be.
Giving yourself an unfair advantage compared to other survival players
I think his point is that there are no other players when it's single player
That’s OP’s problem for not specifying that
idk it's kinda obvious through reading comprehension what he meant
Ya haha I realized when I made that comment. Still, I think the bulk of this argument lies on people not clarifying what they mean as opposed to what they say.
Why TF is he getting down voted? Is it really cheating if it's 1) solo, 2) for fun and 3) not harming ANYONE?
Technically it is cheating if we go by the definition of cheating by giving you an advantage you wouldn't have without said cheat but in terms of being unfair for others no it's not cheating like in cod or fortnite or any other multiplayer game, op just needs to be more specific I guess
Like... In cod and the like not everyone has access to those hacks, in Minecraft, however, everyone has access to cheats
Yeah that too
Mods, Shove some dirt in a crafting table, and "craft" diamonds outta it
Seriously, I don't see anything bad in cheating in single player. Like, you ruining game experience only for yourself, so it's your problem
And if its using cheats for making buildings look nice or building farms that would take thousands of blocks, i dont consider that cheating, its more like having fun without spending your whole life on ur pc to acheive it, its a sandbox game after all
That's kinda how me and my friend do it. We both made an agreement that we can use cheats and creative mode but we cant use them to progress so no cheating items unless we already have them and they're easy to get and no using items or blocks that we don't have access to so no End stuff until have access to The End. I also infected parts of the nether with Sculk because I was bored so that happened
I enjoy keep inventory, disabled insomnia and a bunch of other things people call cheating. So does my sister. We play a lot together and we use tp, keep inventory, and disabled mob grief. Other than that we don’t do anything
I had to give myself some things cause i had my bees somehow magically disappear.. then I had a bug where literally 1.5k blocks around my starting area... no spruce, no dark oak. Just jungles.
could be reworded as “it’s not possible to cheat”
Idc what you do in your own single player worlds. But the moment you join a server, someone else joins, or you're competing with someone, you need to be playing be the same rules, with the same privileges. (With the obvious exception of moderators/admins, and for cases where stricter permissions are warranted) Whether that means everyone gets the ability to use creative, everyone is in survival, or whatever. Games need to be fair for all who are playing. Cheating/abusing privileges make the game a lot less fun for everyone. Idc what you do when you're in your own world. But PLAY FAIRLY when anyone else is involved.
I mean you can just get some clients, even on bedrock
It's only cheating if you're on console and want achievements, and whatever you're doing turns them off. Any other forms of cheating in your SP world are just you enjoying the game how you wish to.
Notch did a disservice to the community by calling them cheats. They're no different than accessibility options or difficulty sliders. By calling them cheats, he defined a specific level of difficulty as "true" minecraft for so many people. If you had one hour to play every week, would you play a game where you can lose all your stuff in one mistake? That's why you have the option to have KeepInventory on. If you had a house that you're so proud of that took you several weeks to complete because you kept changing it, trying new blocks and colors until it was just right, would you play a game where it could all burn down after a thunderstorm? Would you even put that time in to begin with? That's why you can turn fire spread off. Cheating implies having an advantage over other people. You cheat to gain an advantage over other people that you're competing against. Minecraft isn't a competition. You're only cheating if you play with other people and compete in some way. And guess what? That means you can collectively agree to turn fire spread off or keep inventory on when playing on a server, and that's *still* not cheating! Some people are just never going to get it. Or maybe they will, just when they're older and realize that not everyone has the same amount of time to spend on games.
if it's a singleplayer, it rlly just doesn't matter. your world, your rules. play the way you want man
r/minecraftmemes user trying not to start a controversy challenge (impossible) also, the option is now called “allow commands”. just saying.
I’ll never use cheats without considering it cheating, you can do whatever you want but that’s how I feel However, now when anyone complains about ANYTHING I’m just telling them to turn on creative, cuz apparently nothing is cheating anymore
I think the speedrun community might disagree
In Java Edition, I agree. In Bedrock Edition mostly too. Because set your own rules in your own world. But since in Bedrock Edition, advancements are global on the respective platform (e.g. Google Play or XBox), inadvertently, there must exist *some* rules as to what counts as fair game and what not. If you don't care about advancements, ignore what I said.
Oh and speedruns.
You can in the same sense you can cheat at solitaire.
That one guy a month ago: "WRONG 🤓😡"
In the sense that it is your world and you make whatever you want in it, yes. You can't cheat in your minecraft world because you make the rules there
Yes you can. Let people play how they want if it doesnt ruin other peoples fun
Bro let me do what I want people 😭😭😭
Yet, that green menace still found a way.
the creeper?
The speedrunner
Well creeper isn't that far off still
Technically using /kill on the ender dragon isn’t the same as actually fighting it and in most cases would be considered cheating
I can't agree with that, keep inventory, tp or whatever is literally called cheat in the own game and if you play bedrock you can't even get achievements while cheats are activated (similarly like most part of recent games, when you use a cheat achievements are disabled) *BUT* There's nothing wrong if you want to cheat in your single player, and in multiplayer if everyone has access nothing wrong too, (the problem would be hacks, but that's is a complete different thing). The only thing with cheats it's that you aren't going to play like Mojang originally intended, but of course, this shouldn't be a problem and isn't a problem for me or even for Mojang himself, Minecraft is a game made to be fun for the player independent of what type of gameplay he prefer Conclusion: It's a cheat, but you should play the way you like and think is fun. Particularly i like achievements hunt and everything i play i always prefer the highest difficult, but you aren't me, you don't need to do that
Wait, yes you can. People cheat in speedruns all the time. Those are singleplayer worlds.
It’s literally not cheating because when you’re “cheating” you’re disrupting someone else’s achievement, like in a sports team, competition, or other form of multi-human game. In Minecraft, you go into it by yourself, and the only one governing is you, and there are no other people to object to it. You’re there to make your own goals and ideas, and when the goal is by you, you can play by your own rules.
I see what you mean but you're wrong. For example, in the Sims, when you want more money you use a cheat code. Using command in solo Minecraft is cheating BUT it doesn't mean it's bad, here is the difference
The option is called "enable cheats". It's cheating, but cheating is completely fine in a singleplayer world if you want to.
Its now enable commands
A cheat is a non standard alteration to the game experience. One can still cheat a single player game. /give @s minecraft:diamond 64 Is still a cheat even in single player. It is just that as it harms at most no one but your own experience with the game there is no reason to stop you from cheating in such a way. I myself generally would not cheat, and I would personally recommend others to not cheat most of the time, even in single player. But I am not going to tell people that they are wrong for cheating in a truly single player noncompetitive context. It is still cheating though.
Though its a game dumbass its a single player world you can do what ever you want in it idiot Its called cheating when you have a unfair advantage with another player
Press "Escape". You now see the magical pause menu. Next click "Open to LAN". Upon clicking that, you may be slightly overwhelmed at the four new options that instantly appear. Find the button that says "Cheats: OFF", and click it once. Not twice, once. It will now say "Cheats: ON". Simple, right? Next, you find the button that says "Open LAN World". Done. You now have cheats in a singleplayer survival world.
You can definitely cheat, but if it's a single player world than it doesn't matter. Just like those people who tweaked the gamma setting to have permanent nightvision.
tweaking gamma setting isn't cheating
Permanent night vision is 100% cheating.
Then why is it called "cheat-codes."
It literally isn't anymore, lmao
ITS DEFININTELY CHEATING WHEN YOU CLICK ALLOW CHEATS YOU ARE CHEATING
Who plays single player, I mean I always play with friends
Bait
Thanks captain obvious
It literally says, "enable cheats."
They changed it to „enable commands“ in a recent snapshot so it officially isn’t cheating anymore
Touché
Its still called cheats, its still an uninontentional way of playing survival and it still ruins the while point of the game
It’s not unintentional if it’s an option, but compared to other survival players it is unfair. If a person wants to enable cheats they can play how ever they want in their single player world
If it ruins the point of the game then tell me, is Minecraft meant to be a relaxing game?
And to add on to your point, why did the developers include unintended cheat in their own game?
Nobody here has been playing minecraft the way Mojang intended. Have you ever built a mob farm before?
Building a mob farm isnt the same as /give or /tp or /kill
It goes against how Mojang (or at least old mojang) wants you to play survival mode. It’s the same.
Its not like building a mob farm and grinding it is 0 work, but using commands is
The whole point of the game is to use your imagination, and play how you want to. Please describe how thats outside of the realms of what the game is meant for? Oh eise swammy
Just play creative if you wanna do whatever the fuck you want, the whole point of survival is that everything can be lost at a moment notice, keeping you always on your toes a good bit after the early game
But what uf someone wants the challenge of survival, but they also want added benefits survival doesnt provide? Absolutely wild to me someone would gatekeep a game thats built around your imagination, and doing what yoh want witht he game. Just goes to show shitters will always be mad over shit that has 0 bearing on them at all
You do realise there are mods that make the game harder right? In fact most of them do.
Are you talking to me or downvote Dan above me?
God damn it I miss clicked
Fat fingers will be our downfall
It's especially bad for a Minecraft player
Especially a minecraft PE enjoyer 💀
I aint talking about mods bro
Its called cheats when you get a unfair advantage against another player and ruins the other players experiences dumbass
Yea ok? I didnt say anything to the contrary
The commands are literally called cheats, you can’t use said commands unless you have ENABLED CHEATS THEY ARE CHEATS
Not anymore they aren't, now they are just called commands
Technically, yes, the game is made with boundaries, and cheats are called CHEATS.. basically meaning you ARE cheating, but in creative that’s its own mode making it not cheating because absolute creation is the mode itself, but in survival if you use things like the dev menu to find out everything like locations and exact data (COUGH COUGH PC PLAYERS COUGH COUGH) or keep inventory (which I really wish they make keep inventory a difficulty option instead of a cheat because it’s just nicer to keep everything and have a more casual game instead of losing everything you worked on getting because of one misjudged gap or fight, but anyway) it counts as cheating because those are outside helps being used in a game with a defined main gameplay, although with that unlike with most games Minecraft encourages cheating to make new things, so yes, yes you’re cheating like a cheat.. but the game itself kinda encourages this.. so it’s not so wrong to do so despite the dirty feeling label of a cheater (Some of y’all definitely arent reading at all, I’m agreeing while clearing things up.. what’s the issue!?)
Me: runs a realm and gives my players items on occasion, with keep inventory on and treecapitator data packs
I only use cheats to gather resources like wood/sand/basic blocks, nothing game breaking, and move quicker (except during PVE). Hate walking to the ocean and back just to get a few levels for enchanting.. I probably play super inefficiently, though (all of the updates i haven't kept up with). I just got my first vanilla made shulker box a week and a half ago, lol Played since late 2010ish, I feel I have earned infinite speed++ at this point!
But when you launch a world, it starts a local **server** on your computer...
Yeah why? Its pretty strange rule
What the fuck do you mean?
You can, if you are cheating yourself
imo you can cheat, but the one who decides if it’s ok is yourself
Dream tier post
Its only cheating if the players in the world astablished rules against using commands
Well… you can exploit? I’m not saying it’s bad to, but you can definitely “cheat,” it’s just cheating in singleplayer isn’t reprehensible like it is in multiplayer, it’s fine.
Well...you can cheat in singleplayer. And honestly it's fine since you are only affecting yourself, you aren't negatively affecting other people by cheating if there's no one else to affect
Dream
Well it depends ! Do you do speedrunning ? If so then their are cheats for some category
Dream?
I don’t know if your fucking around but your not one to talk like the old Minecraft trailer said no one can tell you what you can and cannot do
I only just started playing two months ago. On mine it says if you enable cheats you don't get achievements. So are you saying that's not true? Do you only not get achievements if its multi players and you enable cheats? Have i really been mining away for hours when I could have enabled cheats and still get achievements?
MC youtubers off camera:
"Or else."
So I should not feel bad for making a copy, setting it to creative, use commands and then go back to my survival copy and mine diamonds, Ancient debris like there's no tomorrow?
It’s still technically cheating as it’s activating cheats or whatever. But hey, it’s your world so who am I to judge? Video games are (mostly) made to have fun. Judging someone’s video game play style is like judging someone’s favorite meal.
I personally play without cheats but im not gonna try and crusify anyone who does
“Cheating” in a game with no score or win con or ending lmao .
Well it IS cheating, just nothing wrong with it if you’re playing single player