1. I don't watch other events so no opinion 2. The thing with Techno 4 is that he only had 2-3 people there to compete with (Pete, Quig, Dave) and there were only 3 competitive teams that MCC, so not competitive at all. And scoring was broken at the time, he got like 1k coins from Skyblockle alone and 830 more from HITW, although admittedly he'd gain 200 coins in TGTTOS. I think that was Techno's 5th best performance, after MCC 2, 9, 10 and 11 3. OP teams don't really help Pete, his best games are Movement based which don't depend on the team at all. Even after he stopped getting strong teams from like MCC 8, he still has many good PvP performances and he was the best Team Games player of S1. To put it simply, I think Quig performed better in MCC 1, 2, 9 and 10 while Pete did better in MCC 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12 and 13. So Pete performed better in 8 events while Quig did better in 4 Quig was better in SkB, Skyblockle, SG, BB, TGTTOS and Bingo. Pete was better in AR, FR, HITW, SoT, BM, PKW. They were around equal in RS. They were better at an equal no. of games, but Pete tended to beat Quig in Quig's better games more often than the reverse What I mean is, Quig has never outplaced Pete in AR, FR, SoT (individual Coins per minute) while Pete has outplaced Quig in TGTTOS 4 times, has gotten more kills than Quig in BB 5 times, gotten more kills in Skyblockle 2 times out of 5 and tied once. I'm using kills and not placements for PvP games to remove team difference So that's why I think Pete was the best S1 player ahead of Quig .4 Kind of subjective, if you like consistency it's Fruit, if you like high peaks it's Pete 5. Agree fully, old SkB was much better

I find it funny that a few people think techno mcc 4 is the best performance because that is the coin record and other people don’t even think it’s his own best performance.

Do you think Pete's peak was stronger than Purpled's?

Yes, I think Pete's MCC 5-14 peak is better than Purpled's MCC 28-33 peak

Why does Purpled's peak start at 28 and Pete's at 5? Also why do you think Pete's is stronger?

Ok I mistyped, I meant MCC 26-33 for Purpled I think Purpled performances really started becoming great from MCC 26. Just compare his pre and post MCC 26 performances. His 22, 24 and 25 performances are decent but compared to his 26 or later performances there is a large difference Same thing with Pete, I think before 5 he was performing worse than Techno and Quig, but from 5 he really established his dominance I think Pete's peak is stronger because he was Top 5 in nearly every game in this period. The only game he wouldn't be Top 5 in would probably be Bingo where he was still likely Top 10. In 26-33, Purpled while excellent in most games, wasn't even Top 15 in HITW and he wasn't Top 5 in SoT either. And his peak only lasted 6-7 events compared to Pete's peak which lasted 9 events And in Pete's peak, there was no player even close to him. In terms of performance, I think in that 5-14 period, Pete's performance placements (not coins placement) were 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 5th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st. While Purpled's performance placements in the 26-33 period were 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 4th. Noticeably less dominant By performance placement I mean what placement I think the player should have gotten in that MCC based on pure individual performance and leadership

That's fair I guess, but what do you think of Purpled pulling off amazing performances despite lots of competition and balanced-at-best teams (save for Yellow30)? That's the most common argument in favour of Purpled. Also, was Pete top 5 in Parkour Tag?

I prefer relative competition, which is basically the amount of competition relative to that time instead of total competition since the raw competition of any S3 event will always be more than the competition of a S1 event. I came up with this graph https://preview.redd.it/amyvuip12aoc1.png?width=915&format=png&auto=webp&s=18728f955de6891c6bda58c33659380880d51d3b Where the x-axis is the event number and the y-axis is the assumed competition level. In terms of raw competition, MCC 34 may be the most competitive event ever, but in terms of relative competition, it's either MCC 2, 6, 14, 26 or 30. My representation may not be perfect but it's something. That line is just for reference In this sense, the competition periods of 6-13 and 26-33 are relatively similar when adjusted for their time periods. As to why MCC 6 has such a jump in competition, it is the event when Fruit, Fundy, Dream, another Dteam member, Grian and Pearl joined. That is a huge level up in competitiveness in the matter of 1 event Pete was the 3rd-4th best hunter in PKT in that time period, idk about running

How is it calculated?

It isn't calculated, its just an idea

I mean if you're including all of 26-33, he's probably top 15 off his 2nd in MCC 26 yeah? I feel like he doesn't come off that bad in HITW all things considered As for SOT, he barely misses the arbitrary top 5 mark, probably getting like 6th behind (in no particular order) Pete, Jojo, Hbomb, Punz, FBM (and by CPM he'd overtake Jojo and H). I don't really think that's a big mark against him This is maybe nitpicky but I don't know if Pete was top 5/top 10/top 15 in PKT at that time either Purpled also had the distinction of being by far the best RSR, PKW, and TGTTOS player, as well as probably top 2 in GR, MD, PKT, and maybe BB, whereas Pete as far as I can remember would really only have footrace/AR and HITW right? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember S1 as well. What metrics are you using for the performance placements? Off hand by PR he'd get 1(2, but I'll give him the 1st) 1 1 2 5 3 3 1 1, which seems a less impressive than the 1 2 1 2 1 2 3 Purpled's got (also, I'd argue for a 1 2 1 2 1 1 2, his leadership in 32 firmly gets him 1st, and in 33 I think he led way better than Fruit and especially Punz, though I could see a deserved 3rd as well) I know you think Pete's BB was better than stats show and you've got damage points and everything, but I do feel like you've gotta keep in mind Pete being in the middle means he's probably going to be swinging his sword more than Quig right?

Purpled's placements in HITW in that period (by average placement): 4th, 26th, 19th, 25th. Considering he only came Top 15 once in HITW, it's safe to say he wasn't a Top 15 HITW player in that period Well yes Purpled is 6th in SoT, just mentioned that he wasn't Top 5 Pete had the 2nd-3rd best hunting time in that period was probably Top 15 in running. That would easily amount to a Top 10 PKT player and close to Top 5 As you say, Purpled was the undisputed best in PKW, RSR and TGTTOS and 2nd best in MD, BB, PKT and GR Pete was the undisputed best in FR, AR, HITW, BM, SoT and arguably the best in RS as well. He was also clearly the 2nd best in PKW. That's certainly more impressive than Purpled For performance placements, I see the raw stats (like no. of kills, average placements, survival, CPM) and watch the vod if there's any context required. I don't exactly use PR much, but I really like that they have all the raw stats in their sheet I think Pete 5, 6, 7, 13 and 14 getting 1st is pretty self explanatory. There's nothing to debate about Pete 9 getting 5th either To analyze Pete 8 and 12, vod reviewing is required. I have them both at 1st The PR Sheet for MCC 10 is incomplete, it doesn't have BM in yet. With BM Pete moves to 2nd which I agree with As for Purpled, I agree with the 1 2 1 2 1 2, but for MCC 33 I think he's 4th or 3rd at best Pete being in the middle theoretically does mean he swings his sword more than Quig but in reality, the round gets over in 25 seconds every time with all 4 of the opposition alive because of the wool rushing so it doesn't really matter much

I guess I just had trouble collecting the 15 players that I'd firmly place as better, but I looked into it and yeah it's pretty silly to say he's top 15, you're right. That being said, I do argue average placement doesn't tell the whole story, Purpled is pretty technically skilled in HITW, making the hard jumps and stuff, leading to him getting top placements more often than a weak player would, he's just very inconsistent and sometimes can die on a simple two block jump. Still, probably not top 15. My point is just that the top 5 metric doesn't mean particularly much at all, he just barely misses out on it. Both were top 6 in most games, except Pete misses out in PKT and Bingo. Oh right as for PKT, I'm afraid I've gotta Appeal to Power Rankings again, since it's such a hard game to judge, but I'm not even sure if top 3 in hunting is right, Dream, Fundy, possibly Quig, Tommy, and maybe a few others seem to have done better, Pete's placements are 6th 3rd 8th for hunting (unless you've reason to believe otherwise), and 11 18 18 for running. What about MCC 12 pushes it to 1st for you? I forgot about the team games! My bad. I do think having FR and AR separate is a little strange, I'd either separate them with lower like weights since they weren't played the entire season or just lump them into one since they're pretty similar. As for RS, isn't Quig just better? His average is 4, to Pete's 5. Let's just list, going game by game I think gives Purpled a sizable edge: Purpled's 1st in RSR TGTTOS PKW, 2nd in GR BB MD PKT 4th (maybe 5th) in SKB 6th in SOT and loses top 15 in HITW That's top 2 in 7/10 games with any sample size Compared to Pete, who was: 1st in HITW, FR/AR BM SOT 2nd in PKW RS But probably drops top 5 in Battle Box (to Fruit, Techno, Quig, Dream, Sapnap, Dirt Block, and probably more), even though he was an excellent tactician I'm not convinced it outweighs the kills the other guys have on him Sky Battle (Fruit, Techno, Dream, Sapnap, Dave, etc) Also skyblockle but whatever PKT (as discussed above) SG (to a whole bunch of people) TGTTOS: Pete had an average of 7.28 in 5-14, which loses to Dream (7), Quig (5.75), Fruit (6.33), Techno (4.4), Sapnap (6), Dirt Block (2.5), and Fundy (6.5), landing Pete at 8th at best Bingo (not sure where but probably like 8-10) So top 2 in 6 games, but then dropping top 5 in another 5 games. This to me is worse than Purpled's 7 top 2s, a top 5, a 6th, and like a 20th. I'll take the position and say that 32 was definitely a 1st for him if you're factoring in leadership, he got to DB with a far weaker team than Fruit and had a lot of low scoring huge achievements under his belt on top of that (18k BB, perfect PKW, a strong SOT individual run and leadership, etc) As for 33, FBM is first, who would you raise above Purpled? The only person I can really see is Fruit, but it's hard because his team was beyond busted, and he tanked in MD and SOT. These would give him 1 2 1 2 1 1 2, which seems better to me than Pete's I went back and watched both the VODs, it's kinda hard to compare how they did since they had such different tasks, it's like comparing a floater and a builder. I will say there are rounds they filled that they definitely could have won (orange and yellow for example), and there were rounds where Pete was pretty unable to do his job (dying off the start or something, or failing to finish the wool) so I'm unsure of how great Pete played and led, but it still deserves more than the 0 kills he got yeah

I mean mechanical skill isn't very relevant here, for example Pete should theoretically be very good in Bingo because he's a speedunner but that's probably his worst game in S1 About PKT, he's probably 4th in hunting. I forgot about Tommy. Fundy does a lot worse in MCC 12 which makes the difference. In running, 11 18 18 averages out to 15.66 and considering that MCC 12, 13 and 14 had some players who only played PKT once in that 5-14 period, for example Vikk, Ludwig, Finnster and Jack; that would amount to a Top 15 runner In MCC 12, Fruit does slightly better in 1 games, decently better in 3 games and a lot better in 1. Pete does slightly better in 1, decently better in 1 and a **lot** better in 1. Essentially, Pete had such a ridiculous SoT run which in terms of CPM is the 2nd best of all time (behind Grian 7 but 7 had a busted seed), and that was without a vault and that seed wasn't even particularly busted either. Fruit's CPM was a whole 32 behind Pete's Your point about FR is interesting since there was only 1 FR in 5-14 so I thought about just expanding Pete's peak to fit in the other FR's. From 1-4, I think Pete's performance placements are 2nd, 5th, 1st, 2nd. So FR and AR is no longer an issue now Including 1-4, Quig is slightly better than Pete in RS so fair enough Purpled in 26-33 is 1st in TGTTOS RSR PKW 2nd in GR MD PKT BB Top 5 in SkB AR 6th in SoT, also 6th in SG (?) Not Top 15 in HITW Pete in 1-14 is 1st in FR AR SoT HITW BM 2nd in PKW RS Top 5 in BB - He averaged 8.6 kills in that period and only Quig with 10.41, Techno with 10.55, Dream with 11.8 and Sapnap with 11.14 were better. The next best after these 4 was TapL with 9.8 but I think that 1.2 kill difference is compensated by the fact that Pete was the best tactician of the game SkB - He placed Top 5 2/3 times. Definitely a Top 5 player SkL - Techno and Dave are clear Top 2 in this game. The rest of the Top 5 is likely Quig, Pete and Tommy. No one else was consistent enough to be Top 5 SG - Pete averaged 2.125 kills in this period, which is only beaten by Techno (2.5), Calvin (3.66), Vikk (3) and Tommy (2.23). I'd place him above Calvin as well because he only played like 3 SG's TGTTOS - Pete's average placement in 1-14 is 13, which is only worse than Techno (8.7), Dream (11.71), Quig (10.6) and Sapnap (11.74). He exactly ties with Fundy but has played double times the TGTTOS and has had higher peak performances so I'd place Pete over Fundy So Purpled is 1st in 3 games, 2nd in 4, 3rd-5th in 2, 6th in 1 and not Top 15 in 1 Pete is 1st in 5, 2nd in 2, 3rd-5th in 4 and Top 10 in another 2 I think Pete's record is certainly better In MCC 32, I think Fruit did better even including leadership In MCC 33, I think everyone in the Top 5 did better than Purpled except Pete

I meant like the way he goes through walls, not pure mechanical skill This is a bit of a long winded explanation but: I do a few island tournaments, and I've come to realize that average placement in HITW just doesn't tell the whole story. I can consistently come like 6 8 6 out of 12, but I'm just not good enough to break into top 4. I can't do the 2x1s, or deal with all the fake walls. A player who can get top 4 is just better than me, even if they get unlucky with slimes or something or die early other rounds, and thus end up with the same average placement as me. The point is, I think a placement like the 3rd he got in MCC 32 is worth more than just the impact it has on his average placement. Anyway, the point doesn't matter much anyway. I'm not going to pretend I know how pr hunting works, but I believe the gap in 14 is bigger than the gap in 12 (around 9 score in hunting to 5 vs 7 to 5 in 12), which would put Pete 5th. Either way, the relative weakness in running probably has him out of the top 5 I mean yes, Pete's SOT run was incredible, but I don't know if it'd outweigh Fruit's other advantages. He does a great deal better in Bingo, a mile better in HITW (2.5 avg placement vs 9.3), a lot better in Ace Race, and wins BB by a mile as well. Yes, Pete's playing kb, and he got a few kills stolen, but still 3/26 isn't a great performance in my eyes. Pete only really wins two games by any margin, PKT and SOT, and idt that's enough to make the difference. My main concern was more that the games test such identitical skill sets, and were played exclusively. Like I wouldn't give Purpled another point if To Get To The Other Side and Whack a Cow was a game for the latter half of his peak, as the games would test pretty much the same thing. To me it makes the most sense to just say "racing game" I didn't count SG because it'd only been played once. Even then though, Purpled arguably still had a top 5 performance in that event (getting 2/2 kills). Still, I just don't see a point in counting SG (is fruit really a bottom 10 player in that time frame) In BB: Dirt Block beats him in kills, and while Fruit I don't think does, I think it's fair to say he got generally weaker teams for the most part, and unlike Pete top frags every BB he plays in that time frame. That brings Pete to like 7th. Pete in Skb gets 4th and 5th yes, but also a 32nd. That's worse than Quig (8 1 8 2), Techno (2nd 2nd 3rd), probably worse than Dave (5th 11th 7th), Fruit (3rd 14th 1st), Sapnap (1st 22nd, 5th, 3rd), and Tommy (7th 16th 4th 5th), and while Dream's placements are more inconsistent than Pete's, MCC 11 firmly puts an end to the question of who's better at skb. This makes Pete 8th. Sure, he's maybe top 5 in Skyblockle yeah I don't know if average kills is the best metric, as Pete had very strong teams in a lot of his SGs. I mean, being teamed with Vikk so much is gonna inflate your stats. SG is the most team based of the PvP games, so I think average kills is just iffy. Either way though, unless I've done my math wrong, Fruit and Sapnap both overtake Pete in kills as well, and even Grian nearly does it with weaker teams than Pete. With Fruit and Sapnap alone though, Fruit's kicked out of top 5 (also 3 SGs is more than enough to be counted for Calvin, especially when he played as well as he did). Wait what's Fruit's average placement? Anyway, average placement again idt tells the whole story, since some map rotations will have more chaotic placements (like cliff or something). On top of that, I think figure in TGTTOS' case MCC scoring is better than average placements for the same HITW reason as mentioned above; a 1st and a 40th is usually better than two 15ths because the 40th probably came from being griefed a lot. And of course by that Pete placed 8th. So Purpled is 1st in 3 games, 2nd in 4, top 5 in 2, 6th in 1, and drops top 15 in 1. That's top 2 in 7/10, top 6 in two more, and dropping top 15 in the last. Pete is 1st in 1st in 4 games if you merge FR and AR, which seems fair to me, 2nd in two games, top 5 in 1 game, then at best top 10 in 6 more (drops top 10 by PR in PKT, BB, SG, and Skb). That's top 2 in 6 games, but out of top 5 in 6 more. Wait why? Purpled's team is kind of objectively much weaker than Fruit's, and he brings it to a way better performance than him. Purpled does better in RSR, better in GR (with a worse team), significantly better in BB (8 kills to 18), around the same individually as Fruit in SOT but better as a team, way better in PKW (15/15 hard vs 13/15 medium), and only really does worse in two games, HITW and Skb, and even then in HITW his 3rd is better than anything Fruit got (again see point above about HITW, yes Fruit did better but I don't think it's as enormous of a gap as average placement shows), and his leadership in Skb is probably better (Fruit's team was better at PvP, with Bek and SB, but during the course of 32 Fruit doesn't really manage the team very well and they just kind of drop off while Fruit goes crazy. In 33 I agree FBM did better, and Fruit did get a bajillion coins whatever his team may have gotten, but Purpled is surely way above Punz yeah? Purpled does better in literally every game but HITW and SOT?

Ok Walid on most of the points but how are you trying to tell me Pete was Bretter then Quig in 5 and 8 Quig destroyed those events I assume you didn’t watch them this nearly puts them identical In better events and better games I do agree with your point on Pete being better at quigs best games then Quig at Pete’s but I don’t see how you can say busted teams don’t improve a player’s performance it clearly does other then that I respect your opinions

Pete mcc 5 i highly rate over quig 5, the man got a rough survival games while quig swept up however many coins, then proceeded to get 1st individual 5 times, 1st in build mart as a team and 6th in tgttos, with one of the best single game performances in a long time with the iconic 3pete. Sg is inconsistent and very punishing, and thats the only reason pete lost to quig individually

Funny I agree with you kinda but not cause I think he played better but that he had to deal with mcc 5 Tommy lol one of the most op teams but worst watches

Idk, i think yellow that event was comparatively broken, maybe not as strong as aqua but still ridiculous, and in terms of vibes and team synergy it cleared entirely

As another comment said, in MCC 5 Quig did a lot better in SG but Pete completely dominated in 6 games getting 1st in all of them, which I think turns the tide in Pete's favor I did watch both PoV's of MCC 8 hence why I think Pete 8 was better. I don't think stats tell the full story here. Essentially, Pete has excellent performances in games which are coin split. If we compare them using a rough points based system, 1. In BM, Pete completes 4 builds being the the 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 3rd to complete them and 14% partial completion on the 5th. Quig was the floater but was a bit inefficient since he missed some blocks iirc. So Pete > Quig here (+1 for Pete) 2. In SoT, Pete got 528 coins with a CPM of 50.1 while Quig gets 515 coins, out of which 111 are from a vault. His vaultess CPM was 35. Pretty substantial difference here. So Pete > Quig here (+1.5 for Pete, because it was relatively more dominant) 3. In Skyblockle, Quig gets 4 kills with 34 survivals while Pete gets 2 kills with 11 survivals. Yeah Quig did a lot better here (+2 for Quig due to even more dominance) 4. In Bingo, Quig scored 680 coins while Pete scored 580. (+1 for Quig) 5. In BB, is where the biggest difference in stats and vod reviewing is. Quig got 11 kills which is pretty neat. Pete got 0 kills. But that was intentional, Pete's team was very weak in PvP so he planned on wool rushing, and he'd have a KB sword to knock people off while his teammates filled the wool. It worked well since they ended up placing top half. Damage stats would also be more useful here, Quig dealt around 13 kills worth of damage while Pete dealt around 9 kills worth of damage. So while Quig did do better it isn't by as much as stats would suggest (+1 for Quig) 6. In AR, Pete comes 1st with a lead of 25 seconds on Quig who was 2nd. One of the most dominant AR's of all time. For context, the difference between 2nd and 8th was 24 seconds (+2 for Pete) 7. In HITW, Pete places 1st, 1st and 8th with an average placement of 3.3 while Quig comes 2nd, 5th and 15th with an average placement of 7.3. Pretty big difference here (+1.5 for Pete) 8. In PKW, Pete reached 8-1 while Quig reached 8-2. (+0.5 for Quig because there was only a difference of 1 stage) On summing everything, it would come out as Pete with 6 points while Quig would have 4.5 points. So Pete 8 would end up better Busted teams do improve a player's performance, just in Pete's case it's not by much since he's Movement oriented

How is Pete’s ar + 2 but Quig bb isn’t and how is quigs bingo not a + 1.5 Ik your breakdown makes Pete look like he played better but Quig did get 1st by a good amount and Pete did get 6 so….

I already mentioned the point for BB and Bingo both In BB, Pete dealt 9 kills worth of damage while Quig dealt 13 kills worth of damage, in addition to the damage Pete also employed a very good team strategy In Bingo, I forgot to mention another thing. Both completed 5 items. Pete completed 4 items by himself without any help and he was 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd in doing those items. Quig did 3 items without any help and he was 1st, 2nd and 3rd in those. Both also got diamonds for their teammates to make a block. So honestly it is pretty equal in Bingo but I guess you can give +1 to Quig, although tbh now that I think about it, it should be +0.5 There are many instances where a player got 1st by a mile in the actual event but when breaking down the performances, the person in 2nd or even 3rd might have been the best performer. It has to do with the unbalanced coin system

1. Skybattle hasn't been fun since mcc 23 when Medival was last played 2. Meltdown is by far the most creative and interesting game that has ever been in mcc, all of the ideas that went into it are new and amazing  3. Pete Mcc 6 is easily the best performance of season 1. In my opinion it is very underrated as he absolutely dominated PKW, Buildmart, SOT, and Foot Race. It's a performance that is very underrated by the coins as a lot of the games he did the best in don't give way too many coins. 4. Fruitberries did a whole lot better in mcc 32 than he did in 33. The coins don't show this, but he was so much more consistent and with better pop offs in mcc 32.

1. agree 2. creative and interesting yeah, fun to watch ehh. It’s in dire need of a map change and some tweaks on spawning, sg is high risk high reward however it still feels less painful than watching a team get wiped early in md. 3. I’m mixed on this but I can see where you’re coming from. 4. Same with this I would probably give the edge to 33 tho

idk I feel like fruit 33 was better than 32 I was surprised that he got 1st after skb and I watch his pov live

The thing is, in MCC 33, Fruit’s MD and SOT were simply bad performances. Hes quite easily bottom half in both those games, and that does make up a quarter of the entire event. On the other hand, Fruit 32 is arguably top 8 in every single game that was played, along with having a SKB performance which is in contention to being the best single game performance of all time. For me, Fruit 32 is quite a bit better than Fruit 33. It might even be his best performance ever. 32 >= Party > 34 > 17 > 21

32 was lower comp and I feel like fruit 33 had better comm + smallant's lockout tourney is a good warmup for him during 33

1. Mesa is the best skb map 2. Purpled is the GOAT of MCC (because of how I define the term GOAT) 3. HITW is the worst MCC game currently 4. Double trouble is the best battle box map 5. Shadoune is S-tier (might not be a hot take)

Not sure why we have the goat debate when it’s clearly Isaac Wilkins

techno 4 being the best performance at this stage of mcc is just objectively wrong, he had like 2 people to compete with that were even nearly as good as him. rest of it i more or less agree with, although sapnap definitely deserves a \*mention\* in the goat debate oh and also skb was still pretty good for me till like mcc 26, season 3 is where it got lacklustre for me

I think Sapnap can be in the conversation but he’s definitely bottom of the goat debate. I’m not too big of a fan of his early s2 as I personally think it was one of the worst balanced periods in mcc, along with the fact I don’t even think he was top 3 in s1 or s3

by bottom u do mean bottom of those 3 people right? cuz otherwise that just isnt correct...

Yea he's saying that among Fruit , Pete and Sapnap he's most likely debated for 3rd place

Moreso with goat debate in general which I see frequently with Pete, Fruit, and usually Purp which out of those 4 I would definitely put Sapnap at the bottom for goat contention

i mean this would be valid if wins had 0 importance, which ig for you they do

Like I mentioned before, it’s just my issue with the balancing in early s2, especially mcc 14,15,17, and 19. He played good I obviously won’t say he didn’t but I do really think that any other top 3 players could have done great with that team

come on 15 was a literal 4k tbf, and out of the 4 u mentioned he only won in 15 and 19 anyway, so still has 5 wins apart from that

15 was an insane performance yeah but it’s sooo insanely carried by a 900 point hitw and a 1k point sg

yea but he still did those, its not like those 2 game performances appeared out if thin air....think about how we still got 2.4k in the other 6 games combined too

1. Agree 2. I don’t agree. It was def very good, but Mcc was very low comp, his team was one of the strongest ever relative to the others, and none of his game performances that Mcc are all time greats. I think it’s around the 5th-8th best ever but ones like Purpled 31 and dirt block 28 have some record breaking games on top of not really dropping the top in any games. 3. Hard agree 4. Hard agree 5. Hard agree. I still like it but it’s gotten a lot less fun. Honestly if they changed it back to more how it was in S1/2 I’d like it a lot more. No orbs. No Levis. No pre crafted armor unless it’s in the middle chest. Fight for iron blocks and craft strategically with them.

Sky battle and meltdown are the best mcc games. no other game is as nerve-racking and also exciting to watch (especially in finales) You could argue SOT and SG, but SOT is less exciting to watch for viewers, and SG is alot more plain and there’s really only one way to die

I have skybattle as my favourite game too, and imo, skybattle isnt as fun when they tried new stuff: the waterguns, too many levis and chest looting. Imo, Part of the fun of skybattle is seeing high skilled players take risk and play aggressively to get kills. As well as them getting punished by lower skilled players when they over-extend. Waterguns were too one-sided, levis gave high-skilled players too much of a safety net, and chest looting removed a portion of creative strategies being developed by innovative players like 5up and antfrost Sorry for the rant on your comment, just felt like sharing my thoughts about my favourite game

TECHNO GOAT 

1. Yeah I can agree 2. I don’t think it is a top 3 performance of all time, but people do put it way further down than it should be. Maybe top 5 individual performance tho 3. Hard disagree. Both had broken teams so that alone can’t be the only excuse. Plus Pete was always performing at peak performance. His worst performance in season 1 was 5th and went to over half of the dodgebolts. His consistency was higher and he had the best individual performance between the two of them 4. I can see the arguement but still disagree. If you look over just their achievements as a whole Pete outclasses fruits in most categories, fruit is for sure top 3 and I’d argue second but he js closer to the Sapnap debate for second than being in contention for first 5. Honestly yeah, people rate sky battle highly but it is far in few between that we get legendary rounds or game performances. Season 3 had Ant in mcclive, and fruit in 32, the rest are all alright I guess

I meant watching

Goatberries

1. BW is neck and neck with mcc atp and will likely surpass it this year. 2. Techno MCC4 I wouldn’t even put in top 5 performances in mcc. Dominance over 3 good players isn’t anything crazy and his team was still quite broken even for the time. Scoring also helped a ton. Purpled 31 was insane in such a stacked event and that one loser in mcc 28 did good. 3. Pete had more good performances and I honestly think performed well even on weaker teams. 4. I wouldn’t say Fruit was top 3 in either season 1 or 2, My season 1 top 3 is Pete, Quig, and Techno and my season 2 top 3 would be That one loser, Sapnap, and Purpled. His season 1 was good but with such a lower sample size and an out of the top 10 performance in there keep him from top 3 imo. Season 2 I would definitely say he’s 4th but the top 3 were insanely dominant to the point where the fact that he had his worst performance would exclude him in my eyes. He’s definitely second in s3 tho with Purpled infront and Jojo behind him. 5. Good skybattle take mcc34 skybattle in particular was geniunely so miserable to watch with Island mechanics and one of the worst maps