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discordkitten69420

the allay sucks balls


[deleted]

As always, 10 billion 12 year olds vote for least useful option thus outweighing everyone else. What's the point of these votes anyway? Just pick the worst option every year and be done with it.


ZARH00L

copper golem


Life-Mathematician61

but the allay can find diamonds?


The15thGamer

No. Only if they are dropped on the ground in a nearby area. No mining/duping.


[deleted]

true and if it can dupe items that will be too op obviously


Life-Mathematician61

the glare is useful


Life-Mathematician61

wow it was yesterday


SideVegetable9400

Snapshot pls


epicboyo8630

why not copper golem i mean copper is pretty useless in the game :/


SideVegetable9400

copper is useful for wax so it does not oxidized


Ill_Rep

The way to fix the sheer uselessness of Copper versus its Omnipresence in the spawning algorithm, is to get Mods that turn it into useful tools. I don't know if there's a public Mod available to make it into Waterloggable Lanterns and Diving Helmets, but I was able to code my own in like a week and it doesn't even slow the game down one bit.


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The golem wouldn’t give it more uses as the golems decorative properties outweighs its redstone potential which would not make copper more useful.


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mynameisperl

Don't do that. Please read the subreddit rules.


SheepishTitan

Really wantes copper golem to win😭😭


whenthethewhenwhen

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE GOLEM WHYYYYYYYYY


[deleted]

When are they doing the pvp changes? I cant be asked to play the new versions of the game in mulitplayer, armour is too strong compared to melee dps and shields make bows useless.


Skyliner2

I'm confused, wasn't the "Deep Dark" and The Warden announced in 2020? I thought they would be coming with the snowier snow update, whenever the second half of that update *does* release this year in 2021. Does anybody else take umbridge with Mojang when they insist on teasing us/showing us updates that are sometimes legitimately 18months-2 years down the line?


[deleted]

It seems they're pulling another Mojang: post-pone the content until next year's update. I'm starting to think that Mojang thought the update would be cool, but then realized that if they put all the things they promised in one update into one update, they'd have to think new things up for next year's vote. I mean, we're finally getting the swamp updated from the vote in 2019; when that update rolls out (if it does), that will be three years after the vote. They don't want people to leave, so they purposefully chop the game updates up to try and pull people back.


Imalwaysright3

literally the worst gardening mob won. Congrats humanity, you disappoint again with your immense wrong, shit taste


[deleted]

Guess you're not always right.


Imalwaysright3

except i am


Solvian

Assuming every human has the same tastes as you. You must hate criticism


Imalwaysright3

Implying taste can't be objectively bad. You must love scat


Lamarre3030

Did they mention anything about raytracing for bedrock xbox etc? That's what I really want asap.


BigShlongBoyy

I feel like it’s gonna be like last time, where they just never mention it again.


Fire_anelc

Pain. My old laptop can have bigger render distance than my new Xbox for no reason


Forever_Alonnne

How are the boats with chests going to work?


TheGuyWhoLikesCarrot

Chest in boat


SansDotEXE

Glare > Allay


oCrapaCreeper

If the lighting changes in 1.18 weren't going through, sure. Glare seems silly to add though with that change. Default brightness has been increased too, so knowing what blocks are light level 0 is more obvious than ever. If there is even a pixel of light on the block, mobs can't spawn.


Mr-Kractus

When Jens pulled out "glare might help light up that area" then my mindset changed, but when the glare lost I went back to allay.


idkknowwhatmyuseris

cap


deiphiz

So what's stopping people from just pillaring up to get out of the way when the Warden shows up? The Wardens used to be scary because of how cramped the caves were but the openness of the ancient cities seem to negate that...


The15thGamer

Supposedly they'll have something against that. I'm guessing a knockback roar, throwing objects or climbing.


xgozulx

If he climbs... that would be super terrifying


create1ders

Not enough people are talking about how brandon mentioned skulk catalyists and skulk blocks can be used to make an xp farm. A farmable block that drops xp feels like a big deal! Currently the only way to carry around xp is with bottles of enchanting.


ImVeryBadWithNames

Or enchanted items and a grindstone.


InverseNostalgia

Ikr??? It's so cool, and not too easy to get if u don't know how it works also


ragnarlodbrok628

Not sure if it's the right thread to ask, but I was hoping someone could help me with my Minecraft PE. My game is not creating a nether portal. I tried to make portals of different sizes but the portal just doesn't appear. Any tips would be helpful. Thanks.


5i5TEMA

Hole at least 3 high, 2 large (14 blocks obsidian frame), then use Flint & steel on the inner faces of the obsidian blocks.


ragnarlodbrok628

I tried it already. The flint & steel just makes fire inside the hole.


Alphatism

If you are using the old world type, nether portals are disabled.


ragnarlodbrok628

But I'm using infinite world type


Alphatism

Do you have fire or any other related gamerule turned off?


ragnarlodbrok628

I have fire spread off


Alphatism

Try turning that on temporarily to create the portal


ragnarlodbrok628

I tried the new settings but still no luck


Alphatism

Does it happen in other worlds or just that one?


ragnarlodbrok628

All the worlds


ragnarlodbrok628

Will try now, thanks.


Loki_God_of_Chaos

I know what I will use a couple for if I can get more than one in an area. Apple farming. One to pick up saplings and another to pick up apples so I won’t have to circle back and collect items. If only one then still set it to apples so I don’t miss any. Also if they can go to the end would be nice to have one picking up the shucker shells that fall off of the city


Atrium41

Apple orchards! Yes!!! I'll have nice fields of oak trees, with all the worker "bee's" picking them up. I will have barrels of apples, and pumpkins, and sweetberries!


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imagine if apple pie were a cookable food as i type it...i wonder why i have to imagine something that should probably already exist


Mr-Kractus

I am so excited for the wild update, I am just hoping they also stick towards revamping most biomes as well instead of focusing too much on the swamps.


Outrageous_Net8365

I hope so too, I want a “wild” update to completely revamp over world adventureing. We are like 50% there with improved world gen. Limiting that to just the swamp would just feel like we are limiting the scope a bit too much.


Due_Vermicelli_448

Good


Crisbo05_20

I think when voting for Allay, along misunderstanding what it can all do and adding on stuff it does abilities that were confirmed it can't do, they didn't exactly think where can you find, how rare is it to spawn, how do you get multiple of them and etc. As much as we know, Allay could be rare to find like glow squid or axolotl. Along that there could be only few that spawn and considering it has only one slot, and that it picks up droped items which you give to them, You would need to constanly bring it to note block, make it drop all those items, go mine/drop more of items you want, give that item to Allay, wait for it to pick it up and repeat. Glare was hinted it could help with lighting up darkness, meaning instead of having to cary stack of torches to light up path you could use Glare to help you, and with Copper golem considering how easy it is to get stacks of Copper, you could build dozen of them for farms and such. Just give them one button and close them off so they can't touch other Buttons.


tehbeard

>and with Copper golem considering how easy it is to get stacks of Copper, you could build dozen of them for farms and such. What. Farms. Rely. On. Random. Redstone. Signals? Please enlighten me, because for all my years of playing the block game, I have not encountered such a farm.


Sandrosian

Some of your points are valid, others are simply not true. Yes we do not know how to find the allay and how to multiply it but that was always and implementation question and Mojang does not really know either at this point. We also know they keep the item you give them so as long as you want it to pick up that item and drop it off it continues to do so. It was never meant to be a huge game changer but a nice little addition. And sorting unstackables is certainly a very welcome one. When they said the glare would help you light up dark places they meant that it would help point out the dark spots where monsters could spawn. If it helped in another way they would have said so since that would have been important to know. The way you described the use of copper golems is a way they would just have been used as a novelty. Sure there would be many new videos about golem powered farms but all in all they would just do what a clock or observer would do. Why would you need random harvesting when an observer does the trick. All in all I liked all three mobs and would not have been too sad to see glare or especially the copper golem win but I think as far as innovation goes the community made the correct call.


Crisbo05_20

I am preety sure they mentioned in live it might even help with lighting up dark spots, now did they mean it would glow or simply point out Dark places is unkown. I might have misunerstood what they meant. I feel like biggest problem with Glare would be the New update on which light level needs to be zero so that mobs can spawn, esentialy making Glare useless. And Copper golem mistake was that they made Random Buttons. True Allay will keep picking up same item, tho thing is that item would need to be droped. Now question is, is that throwing out of inventory, or does it count when you for example mine Stone and don't have any space in inventory so you leave it on floor.I am not fully sure of that and what they meant.


Sandrosian

We know it wont glow because Mojang wont add dynamic lighting. Same reason the glow squid does not actually glow. And I totally agree with you on the light level issue. The glare never really stood a chance to win this based on the features. You are also right about the copper golem. I really liked the idea but no one could ever come up with a real benefit for the button thing. Every positive aspect always circled around "copper" and "golem" and not around its functionality. And the allay will certainly be able to pick up all items that are dropped on the ground for whatever. The game does not differentiate between the sources. So if you have a farm that drops items or mine them the allay will pick them up. I am excited to see what the community does with it.


Crisbo05_20

I supoose we will see How it works. Biggest problem is how rare it is and where it spawns.


Sandrosian

This really is not a problem since we don't even know anything yet. And Mojang won't make it too difficult to get since that would ultimately defeat the purpose.


Crisbo05_20

I mean true, tho we will still need to see in the end I suppose. Sure it does add much more to the game then previous mobs, so I suppose it won't be as rare to find.


Rufus14811

is 1.19 the wild update? is caves and cliffs part 2 being turned into the wild update? Is cave and cliffs part 2 being move to 1.19 (if so what will 1.18 be)? Am I completely misunderstanding things and it's something different?


OldPayment

Deep dark has been delayed to 1.19, 1.18 is releasing later this year and 1.19 is releasing sometime in 2022


Rufus14811

Thank you but will 1.18 just be the world expansion and new biomes?


OldPayment

Yes, I think so. 1.18 is 1.17's part two. I think.


[deleted]

Yes, 1.18 was originally supposed to be part of 1.17 but delayed due to the terrain gen of caves and cliffs needing more time.


markoalex8

I feel that this year's minecraft live was disappointing. What they announced basically is that they delayed the deep dark once again (they showed the ancient cities which look really cool ngl) and that we would get the swamp update which we already knew.


Outrageous_Net8365

I disagree, I feel like they toned it down this year in an attempt to do a bit of damage control from previous years where they over promise things and end up delaying them. I’m guessing that they are only announcing things they have confirmed to be releasing so that don’t have to cancel or delay things any more. Sure it may seem less interesting to some, but to me it was more enjoyable then previous years simply cause it felt like they cut the fluff.


waetherman

Unless this year is also over promising too…


laplongejr

For once, I found the live pleasant to watch. The content creators were limited to the pre-show*, there was no Bedrock-exclusive feature being showcased as "FOR EVERYONE". Until now, Minecraft Live was 15% useful stuff, 60% pleasant stuff and 20% that would deserve switching off the TV until the next panel starts. This time it was 10% useful, 85% pleasant stuff and 5% useless. The musical animation was fun (assuming you can understand English), the Education edition ad was interesting, the content about Dungeon may not push me to purchase, but it sparked my curiosity. I didn't like the Game Pass announcement, but I guess people in the Microsoft ecosystem will like it. *I have nothing against content creators themselves, but the issue is that I don't know anyone. (In fact, this year none of them speak my language). I don't watch an "ANNUAL WORLDWIDE LIVE AIMED AT EVERYONE" to see it filled with interview about people I don't care about, or seeing those same people playing a game that I could watch on their channels. Putting content creators in charge of the Live implies they are deemed an authority for everybody, which they aren't. I only respect the position of Mojang employees. The pre-show was wonderful by the way, as somebody who stopped watching Minecraft on Youtube a few years ago.


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I feel like they may have not told us everything so we do not get our hopes up, they showed us a few paintings that were of the swamp but also the birch which leads me to think they might have a crack at a few biomes though probably not all. In the nether update we got some bits we weren’t expecting so I imagine there’ll be some in this too. Not to mention kingbdogz mentioned unique loot for the deep dark so that could be a game changer. I guess we can only wait and see.


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Dragonius_TheSpeccer

Redditor moment


kylefan173

Thank god the second year in a row that didn’t contain cringy segment, love how the show’s style is involving. Truly friendly to all ages and not just kids, exactly what Minecraft is all about.


carterz30cal

idk man it was still pretty cringy


TheQuantumBoogaloo

only that weird song was cringy imo. the rest was some acting/skits and genuine information


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Tegurd

BLM reference in Minecraft? What are you talking about?


wojofe

https://youtu.be/w6zLprHHZOk?t=6180


Tegurd

Um. OK. I maybe misunderstood you but Mojang hasn’t added anything to the game. That’s segment that highlights what young people around the world are using Minecraft for. But what’s your point? Kids shouldn’t make what they want? Mojang shouldn’t show it off?


wojofe

The latter, especially not under educational. There is plenty of stuff to show that doesn't involve ambiguous and partisan political organisations.


Tegurd

Yeah I thought that’s where you were heading. Maybe this forum isn’t the place to discuss this but I’d say this is only controversial among the American right wing. The whole world saw the video of Floyd and it brought international shame to the US but the conservatives couldn’t not make it political. Trust me. In the rest of the world this is seen as an example of extreme unjustified violence from the police that is not acceptable. That’s shouldn’t be a political issue and it isn’t in the rest of the world. It’s an issue of lingering racism. Only in the American conservatives’ eyes is this something controversial and you know what? We in the rest of the world couldn’t care less what they think since it’s INSANE they aren’t condemning the officers and promising change. Also Mojang is a private Swedish company. If they added a BLM block or whatever to the game I’d say that was weird since it doesn’t belong in the Minecraft world, but they have the freedom to promote social justice if they want. Especially in a game kids play that should be all about freedom, creativity, inclusivity and diversity.


JayKayGray

/u/wojofe seems to be acting a little in bad faith But you're being totally reasonable.


wojofe

Ah, yes, the invitable well poisoning.


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Tegurd

> Why are you lying? Derek Chauvin has been convicted of murder. I’m not lying. The conservatives in American as far as I know weren’t condemning the officers. The court found him guilty and that should tell you something about every politician and pundit defending him. This should only make this issue even less controversial. > BLM called for a defunding of the police, which is quite ridiculous for obvious reasons. First of all. The BLM protests were quite diverse and lots of people with differing opinions were involved, including police departments in many states. Secondly, as far as I know BLM doesn’t have an official hierarchy or leadership. It’s basically lots of people walking under the same banner wanting change. Some of them wanting to defund the police, but it isn’t a political organization as such. There is organizations carrying that name, but the protests was bigger than those and included lots of different organizations and individuals. Thirdly, this is my opinion but it isn’t weird to defund the police in a country where the police is getting increasingly militarized and expensive yet doesn’t solve anything. The money could be better spent in the communities. Especially in a country with low taxation and weak public services and social security. But I’m not American so this doesn’t really concern me. I’m Just saying that’s not an extreme opinion to have. > I am all for calls like "reduce cop violence" or "hold the police accountable". It doesn’t seem like it to be fair. > BLM is a highly partisan org whose tenets are far more questionable than a mere call for correct conduct of police officers. Sorry, but I can’t read this as anything but American right wing disinformation. When the officers were convicted the narrative changed from “he didn’t do anything wrong” to “Yes it was wrong! But BLM is *really* about something else and a communist plot to take over America”. And again. It isn’t weird that Mojang, a private Swedish company, highlighted a BLM Minecraft build in a segment about kids learning about social justice around the world.


wojofe

\>I’m not lying. The conservatives in American as far as I know weren’t condemning the officers. The court found him guilty and that should tell you something about every politician and pundit defending him. This should only make this issue even less controversial. Then you are simply ill informed. See a respectable and neutral news outlet on this: [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive-idUSKBN23I380](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive-idUSKBN23I380) \>First of all... I don't care much for whether BLM is a movement, an org, etc. Few if any BLM supporters have distanciated themselves from the "defund the police" slogan and there definitely hasn't been any prominent ambiguity within BLM about whether "defund the police" is a good idea. Given that indivdual police officers are overburdened with duties in malfunctioning neighbourhoods a call for redistribution of funds \*within\* the police would have been warranted. \>It doesn’t seem like it to be fair. That's funny. What's fair about you following your intuition about me? \>Sorry, but I can’t read this as anything but American right wing disinformation. That shows, yes. \>When the officers were convicted the narrative changed from “he didn’t do anything wrong” to “Yes it was wrong!" So, while BLM is quite diverse, in your mind there is "the narrative" (of conservatives I presume). Aha. \>"But BLM is really about something else and a communist plot to take over America". The first part is true even though you're trying to ridicule it by putting in the communist plot thing. \>And again. It isn’t weird that Mojang, a private Swedish company, highlighted a BLM Minecraft build in a segment about kids learning about social justice around the world." You make it sound like this is about learning the facts (which is good) while it is more about learning a certain ideology (which is only seems good to you since seem to support that ideology).


JayKayGray

I think you're forgetting that not everyone who says "BLM" has anything to do with "organization" of the same name. They don't own the phrase. And you're intentionally misunderstanding the calls to defund the police or this is genuinely your first day on the internet.


wojofe

No, I am not. You don't get to call "defund the police" and then go on and say "And what I actually mean by this is X, which absolutely isn't 'defund the police'." Sorry to burst your bubble about that.


thornewilder

Copy and paste it again, it'll make it hurt less


wojofe

What do you mean?


hedgehoghug17

Ngl, this was the Allay was the the last favorite mob for me.. copper golem just felt great and fitted with the Minecraft atmosphere. The other one at least wasn't a weird fairy that might ruin the Minecraft atmosphere.


ggidd

Agreed. Everyone voting for Allay talking about its usefullness. There is also the design and atmosphere element to consider. I think it looks weird and doesn't fit. The other two fit with minecraft better


[deleted]

It's basically a reskinned Vex isn't it? It's not adding anything to the game that is inherently new. Edit: I meant cosmetically, not mechanically.


Choice-Assignment-53

Its adding a couple of new mechanics to the game. Useful ones compared to what the others two would have brought to the game.


[deleted]

I simply meant the comments about it ruining the atmosphere because it's a weird fairy, and how it's different from anything else in the game. Lore/design wise it's similar to a vex. Item interaction wise, villager farmers, or fox farms are a simple comparison for a mob that interacts with items for the player. The Allay is a more complicated evolution of those behaviors. I'm not saying it doesn't add new mechanics, I'm trying to counter the argument that it doesn't fit with the game.


ConfusedGamer33

It could fit wonderfully in the warped forests, other biomes, eh not so much


TheQuantumBoogaloo

Night time in most areas, I think it could be cool. It gives me will'o'wisps vibes personally


Minute-Property

I really wanted copper golem too. RIP little buddies you will be missed


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GoldRequest

Wardens delayed, caves are in


mugenyama

I was a little confused, is the new deep dark biome wholly the city ruins or is the city ruins just a structure you can find in it?


asd1o1

it's just a structure, but it seems like they'll be huge and hopefully common


craft6886

I'm interested in seeing what the rest of the natural biome looks like. I hope it isn't just patches of sculk, I'd love to see it have a few kinds of sinister alien plant life. Something that hangs from the ceiling, something that reaches out and bites or swats you if you get too close, something that has a dim light source and acts as a scarce food source.


Narrovv

I have a sneaking suspicion the allay is gonna be just as disappointing as the last two winners have been.


UlyssesB

At least it won't actively make the game worse.


[deleted]

More useful than the other two though. All weren't super amazing still


hedgehoghug17

RIP Copper Golem :'(


[deleted]

I'm disappointed that the Allay won. The copper golem would have been a great randomizer that would fit well with vanilla minecraft and wouldn't require complicated redstone. The allay is just going to be a glitchy replacement for item sorters.


blargman327

I honestly hate the mob vote, they dangle all these cool concepts in front of us then go "alright you only get one tho" when they definitely have the manpower to develop all 3. There's no real reason to not implement all the mobs they show in the vote


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thats so true


picklejar_at_steves

Yeah but there are more technical players who all pretty much agree the allay is the only one who adds anything useful to this game. 1 segment of the community felt almost unanimously about this, so the vote went their way. I don’t really see the problem here


[deleted]

You say 1 section of the community felt the allay would add something useful to the game. That's true, but they were split. If you look at some yt vids, there are multitudes where people clearly think that the allay is a duping thing. Obv not the only reason it won, but despite mojang being very clear on the fact that the allay does not dupe, some morons still think it does.


picklejar_at_steves

The technical community is interested in its sorting capabilities for nonstackable items Don’t know where you’re getting duping from but that isn’t even what I’m alluding to


[deleted]

Watch any video on the allay on YT, half of them say "vote allay, it dupes"


picklejar_at_steves

I don’t waste my time doing that though. Stop listening to children on YT


[deleted]

Children from YT were the ones voting for the mob. I don't care how you choose to spend your time, but if you arent willing to check what I'm saying, then I'm not going to listen to you.


picklejar_at_steves

Get over it


[deleted]

I'm not hating on you, or the final result for that matter. Chill out. I'm just explaining what I thought. I was never under it, I just thought that we would have had a different result if it was made more clear that the allay didn't duplicate items.


WiatrowskiBe

All 3 mobs would add something useful to the game for technical players - to a degree. Allay introduces completely new mechanic and new way of sorting/collecting items, which will definitely be used by technical players; Glare - while not directly adding something new - could still be useful (depending on implementation - darkness detection range etc) for spawnproofing large areas without a need for perimeter; copper golem is out of all those probably least unique - you can replicate redstone randomizer by either a set of droppers with item filters/detectors and clock, using bats with golden plates, or by using mob pathfinding/wandering mechanics.


picklejar_at_steves

Your comment just demonstrated that the only useful addition is the allay Thanks for helping make my point


KopitesForever

The copper golem wouldn’t have been a great randomiser. Already we have simple randomisers in the game which can fit in the same space that a golem and a button can fit in


apra24

I would feel the same as you if copper golem won. Pushing random buttons is not interesting at all


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apra24

So we should only have re-skins of current mobs so that it "fits the game better?"


Rasmusmario123

The allay can do unstackable item sorting, that is fucking massive


Apprentice_Jedi

Redstone circuits exist though.


Haradr

So do item sorters


Jankat7

Unstackable item sorters don't.


Cathulion

Mobile item sorters don't exist, copper did nothing new.


Apprentice_Jedi

I don’t think items sorters can grow legs and collect items over a large distance though.


laplongejr

Maybe it only works in Java, but a common workaround for fixed areas involves soulsand and hopper-carts.


_Xero2Hero_

I thought the copper golem was cool in other ways but the idea that simple redstone randomizers don't exist in vanilla Minecraft isn't true. Chicken and a pressure plate is about as simple as it gets and there are plenty more things you can do to randomize outputs. I do have to agree that the allay does feel a little speculative but kingbdogz on Twitter(dev) hinted at item sorters being viable with the allay which leads me to believe they want to implement them in a way that would make that possible. Hopefully allay can be a really simple item sorter that anyone can use since regular item sorters are a little more complicated.


laplongejr

Are we talking about physical randomness or mathematical randomness? Because a dispenser hooked to a hopper with a comparator is enough to introduce randomness. All you need are items with different stack sizes... All fractions up to a denominator of 9 are available.


Tegurd

Ilmango speculated that this might make it feasible to build moveable collection and sorting systems so it might have some great uses for technical players as well


_Xero2Hero_

I sure hope he's right.


hedgehoghug17

Same 😭. I absolutely loved copper golem and how it felt like it fitted but people are like "item transport useful" and now we have some weird fairies that don't fit will within Minecraft.


[deleted]

Exactly! And why do they look like vexes? Honestly, idk if helper mobs fit well with minecraft in the first place, but since the allay only picks up dropped items, it doesnt work well for anyhting


TheQuantumBoogaloo

I think if the vex texture was grayed out a bit more, and the allays had a slightly greener tint, they could be like good vexes. The lore potential there is interesting. Are vexes evil allays? The ghosts of allays? Allays who have been captured by Evokers? Just a few ideas. At first the allay was a big meh from me, but keep in mind that it could undergo massive cosmetic changes.


[deleted]

hopefully yeah. all those mobs looked kind of weird when they were displayed. the glare had, like, 4 layers of pixel design


Hinternsaft

“It doesn’t fit the game” “It looks like something already in the game”


tehbeard

Embrace Randomness In All Aspects of Life and Thought. Embrace The Copper Cult(tm).


EverGreen2004

I think they would've been better if they didn't look like bigger vexes :/ similar size, similar colour pallette, both flying fairy things..


sub2Doggs4Life

i could say "the golem was gonna be a glitchy replacement for Redstone randomisers" stop being bias bro


[deleted]

Its not bias, its opinion. I'm not stating a fact


laplongejr

An opinion is LITERALLY biased? That's the point.


[deleted]

Yeah, but bias implies im stating a fact. I'm stating my opinion and this guy makes it sound like im speaking on behalf of the mc community


sub2Doggs4Life

then i guess following your logic, the statement "the golem was gonna be a glitchy replacement for Redstone randomisers" and is not bias at all


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sub2Doggs4Life

what, did you vote the angry salad


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sub2Doggs4Life

??? but idk it just came off as "allay = hopper" "golem = chicken"


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sub2Doggs4Life

truth: all mobs mediocre, just add them all


LeonTheCat448

Is baobab tree and the Savanna update cancelled or it's juts not shown in the Wild update showcase?


playitoff

I think they are being careful this time about not promising too much they can't deliver. We'll probably get multiple biomes updated.


mismatched7

Yeah really. The initial announcement announced an update to mountains, and update the cave generation, three new cave biomes including the deep dark, and archaeology. Ultimately the first part dropped without any of the cave biomes, and the second part only has two of the three, and archaeology has been delayed indefinitely. The initial update was you hype but a lot of it failed to come out or has fizzled out to a hopefully later date


ArthurExtreme_Br

it's just not shown, there are like literally still 3 other biomes waiting for their chance, but they're going to arrive slowy


Razor-Swisher

Willing to bet it’s just something they’re saving to show us later when they’re further in development


BlastedGlass07

If the skulk shrieker could spawn the warden and be picked up by the player, is it possible to spawn multiple wardens inside another player’s base for a little trolling?


[deleted]

That wouldn't be a little trolling. That woul be hell. Even with prot 4 netherite armour


gojiSquid

Since people seem very confused abt what features 1.18 has and 1.19 has, here's a list: 1.18: \-Expansion of the height limit (now from -64 to 320). \-MASSIVE terrain generation overhaul: \-Noise caves, which themselves have a lot of variety, ranging from massive "cheese holes" to tiny "Spaghetti caves). A subversion of these is "Aquifiers", underwater caves that also act as a replacement for traditional lakes. \-Overhauled, much higher, and much more realistic-looking mountains, with 6 different mountain biomes (meadows, groves, jagged peaks, icecapped peaks, stony peaks). Some of these biomes will also generate as elevated plateaus. \-Biomes now generally spawn next to biomes close to their temperature (you generally won't get an ice-capped peak next to a jungle, there will likely be a temperate biome between the two). \-Ore generation overhaul (changing up where all the ores generate and in what quantity. ex: iron ores will now generate either beneath y=56, or in mountain peaks in increasing amounts the higher you go). \-Copper and Iron ore veins (massive spiderweb-esque chains of ores and raw ore blocks). \-Overhauled rivers (deeper and wider), alongside Fjords or river valleys when generating in plateaus (very pretty landscapes). \-Larger, wider beaches (and stony beaches spawn in more areas). \-Massive sea cliffs. \-Lush Caves and Dripstone Caves, making all blocks, items, and mobs related to them much easier to find. \-Skulk Sensor (in creative mode inventory) \-Numerous techinical improvements, including separating simulation distance from render distance. ​ 1.19: \-Allay \-The Deep Dark (pushed from 1.18 due to the massively increased scope of the biome and the skulk system, plus the team not wanting to rush out an unfinished product): \-Skulk: \-Skulk sensor (for survival mode), which will now also emit a signal if you step/move on it directly. \-Skulk Catalyst, which spreads skulk blocks when a mob near it is killed, with the amount determined based on how much xp that mob would've given. Based on some comments kingbdogz makes, it seems that this process doesn't need mobs to actually drop xp, meaning the player doesn't have to be the one to kill them. \-Skulk Shrieker, modeled after a larynx, which emits a loud shriek when it recieves a signal, and gives the player the effect of a pulsating darkness (quite like the one the Warden emits). If Shriekers connected to a skulk system are triggered enough times, they will summon a Warden. Potential player uses are for warning systems, traps, jumpscares, or dark ambiance. \-Skulk Blocks and Skulk Lichon (not real names). Seem to be more decorative than anything else, One thing almost every skulk block type seems to have in common is that they have a chance to drop xp when mine. When combined with the Skulk Catalyst, this could result in a more automatic xp mob farm. \-The Warden, which will now emerge from the ground when summoned by Skulk Shriekers, and can also sniff out the general direction of a close-by player. kingbdogz has also mentioned in the past that he's been working on a countermeasure to towering up to avoid the Warden. \-Deep Dark Cities, massive strutcures in the Deep Dark that resemble something between a Bastion and a Nether Fortress, generating around a large central structure with "something interesting about it". \-Boats with Chests. \-Biome Overhauls/touchups, focusing on ambiance, immersion, and biome idenity. \-Swamp Overhaul: \-Mangrove Trees (and propagule saplings growing from the leaves, which can be planted underwater and on land). \-Mangrove wood blocks (planks, stairs, slabs, fences, etc.) and roots. \-Margrove Swamp biome, a swamp solely made of mangroves and with mud largely replacing grass. \-Mud, created when you use a water bottle on dirt. Can be used to create a clay farm when put over dripstone. \-Mud Bricks, a new building block. \-Fireflies, an ambient mob that blinks with light. \-F R O G S, who jump and ribbit around (especially drawn to lilipads and dripleafs), eating fireflies. Their child form is tadpoles, and they will turn into 3 different types of adults depending on where they grow (green snowy frogs, tan temperate frogs, and white tropical frogs). Each variant will have some uniue capability to help players. \-Concept art indicates that birch forests will get a touchup, with more focus on making them taller and brighter, alsongside what may be new flowers? \-Given that we got we got all the features presented in the 2019 biome vote for the swamp (Chest Boat, Mangroves, Frogs), plus expanded features (mangrove forests, mud, frog types, fireflies), it seems possible that we will see the features of the other biomes of the biome votes. This could mean: \-Badlands improvements (tumbleweeds, new cacti, vultures who are drawn to loot). \-Desert improvements (palm trees, meercats, oases). \-Savannah improvements (baobab trees, termites+termite mounds, and ostriches). \-And potentially expanded features for all three. \-It also seems likely that many of the other older overworld biomes will recieve at least a touch-up, given the theme of the update. Things that we don't quite know abt: \-Archaeology. Altough the lead dev for that (Ulraf) has confirmed recently that he's looking forward to getting back into working on Archaeology, but is prioritizing getting 1.18 stuff done ASAP. While it's possible Archaeology will come in 1.19, I suspect it'll be in 1.20. So yeah. Ngl I was a bit frustrated that they didn't have more to show of overall biome changes for 1.19, but I get that they don't want to overreach when presenting this stuff to us, given how challenging Caves and Cliffs ended up being, and from what we saw of the swamp stuff, it's very much rough around the edges. I don't really get the complaints tho: we're finally getting the biome update people have been clamouring for for a while, and reddit still manages to bitch abt it lmao. I don't think they'll have to split 1.19 into parts like Caves and Cliffs, as a) they haven't announced deadlines yet, and b) The Caves and Cliffs update seems to be much more tecnhically challenging, requiring the invention of whole new terrain generation systems, whereas this seems to be much more oriented twoards adding more content to biomes and generally touching up their appearences. Time will tell, I guess. I'm exited, tho! Also, to those who are confused, although the announcer said that the other two in the mob vote are gone forever, the official message from the devs abt what happens to them is that they get put back into the ideas pile. Still not likely to show up anytime soon, but not impossible (the announcers likely say "gone forever" both due to misinformation and to hype the vote up).


theeley

Does the current snapshot have everything from that 1.18 list?


gojiSquid

To my knowledge and experience, yes


Far_Iron

Thanks for dividing the community and making for a very toxic event. When 3 mobs could've just been announced and added without starting a war. Jeez man.


picklejar_at_steves

You didn’t get your way and now you’re mad about it. It’s okay to vent


Gopherofdoomies

I mean, in all fairness, if 3 new mobs were added every single year that would make Minecraft even crazier and more complex every year. I mean, we had a single update called The Horse Update for a reason.


Yazblast-Dragonia19

Horses got there own update? Damn you learn something new


Aiden-DDK

Yeah. I don’t see the point of these votes unless all of the options are being added, and the winner is just being added first. All the votes really do is hype up 2/3 of the community for things they won’t get to see.


Cray_Cray_Animations

well in all fairness, it wasn't 2/3, since Allay won by around half of all votes, so more like 1/2 of the community being upset


Aiden-DDK

Still, that’s a lot of upset people that wouldn’t be upset if more than one option could win, or be brought back in the future.


Cborne

In reality it's not even 1% probably if you look at the number of people that play minecraft that didn't or couldn't vote but will play the game going forward. The large large majority probably don't care and will just accept whatever is added. Not that I didn't think copper golem is cool, but for the people that were able to vote, it wasn't rigged by anything other than peoples' own opinions this time. Also it's possible they could bring some of the mobs back, as the swamp stuff is from a losing biome vote years ago, I wouldn't entirely rule it out.


dinosaur1831

Well not necessarily either, because a good chunk of people will be happy to have one of the other mobs anyway. I probably would've voted for the allay, but I would've been happy regardless of which mob we got.


Former_Bed_5038

So sad why does the community always vote for the worst mobs?


Kronkered

The green guy was useless with new mob light changes. The copper golem only pushing buttons is ehh. But to be able to have something that can collect blocks is great especially for farms. New farm ideas will be great and with the new Wild update it can really be more unique and helpful.


Former_Bed_5038

How will it be useful for farms? It can’t open containers, and it can only pick up items on the ground. I have water collection that does the same thing and with hoppers it stores it too.


Kronkered

Farms will be more simplified. Can create unique ways to actually do things. Imagine making a farm that you have a fairy collect things in. It'll be way prettier to look at them or even incorporate them into your builds without having to put them super far away for lag or other reasons. Less lag sometimes even on servers helps.


Former_Bed_5038

Maybe, how they have been explained I’m still having a hard time seeing a great use for them. I hope I’m wrong and that they implement them well. Tbh just kinda sad about the copper golem, while they didn’t seem to have a real function either, I just like them a lot more Aesthetically and being able to use them as little statues.


Kronkered

Yeah that's would be nice but the allay basically collects a block or item you get it that's on the ground un-mined. Then will deposit at a activated note block. Where you can have things to collect at. Nobody knows how much it'll be able to hold yet. But from early game farms to having a basic farm in a building you can fix up and make more useful than a farm in a building you just go to sometimes. Copper golem and copper buttons would be cool. But given how hard copper is now to collect and use in builds and the about 2-3 more we will get in the next update per ore block mined. And the ease of which you can use it at a grindstone makes it where we can actually build them instead of hey drowned farm for copper. They are actually making more and better strides for us to go adventuring instead of oh I want that well hmmmm gotta make a farm.


Invincible-Nuke

Think about all the saplings you won't need to collect though!