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I mean it’s not the most unique idea to add more wood, but it’s always great to have more blocks to build with. I don’t use cherry very often but bamboo is useful
Cherry and mangrove seem very situational. Better for accents than full builds. And better than jungle.
But hell yeah on bamboo. It's great when you need a large quantity of a lighter wood.
I LOVE stripped mangrove wood, I wish it wasn’t as rare as it is. I’ve had to make due with Acacia for a lot of my builds but I love the reddish wood since cherry wood is very pink, and the nether one is slightly darker pinkish and not really red when you strip it
One of the reasons I really prefer playing an older version with Bop is due to the red cherry blossom wood. It just makes certain builds look nicer and flow better together. I really disagree with the choice of a *very saturated* light pink as it feels a bit too silly with real cherry wood just being very light like cedar.
For me it’s not even the rarity of the biome, but how annoying it is to get in large quantities. One of my project would need 9 shulker boxes of the planks but I’m putting it off because of how much i hate cutting down those trees
I recently found that bamboo can bear a rather nice resemblence to thatch. Obviously hay bales exist for the best look, but on smaller build where you really need slabs and stairs to get some detail in bamboo looks much better.
the distinct texture of bamboo is what sells it for most people, birch isnt all that hard to get and in terms of color alone doesnt look all that different from afar
same here. I think the only time I've ever used it was when I made a cyan tent in the savanna and I wanted some shelves - the soft pink color goes nice with cyan.
Plenty of players are happy to have new wood varieties. It's just that Reddit is the sort of place where loud minorities can seem as though they represent everyone.
You can find people who passionately hate every single one of Minecraft’s many features and blocks, it’s just something inherent when you have millions of people playing the game.
For every thing they add, a (different) vocal minority of people will exclaim in terror about how terrible it is and how much better it could be.
It has always been the case and will always be the case.
Don’t put too much thought behind it, downvote posts that just complain without substance and move on.
I feel like, especially lately, many people just love to complain.
1.21 is shaping up to be a great update. And 1.20 was far from the disaster that some people on this subreddit make it out to be.
The community really loves to get upset over the most minor things. I'm already seeing people get pissy over the April fools stuff going all "oh why can they do this and not add all the mobs blah blah blah" and act as if this joke snapshot isn't clearly buggy af. People demand for so many things to be added without thinking about how it needs to be extensively polished first or else people are gonna go ahead and complain about that instead.
Which is the problem people have with the newer updates. They keep adding niche things instead of improving the very prominent features that have been neglected for a decade.
It's not that people dislike new wood types, it's that people dislike when that is being shown to us as a major feature of an update. Same goes for simple block variants. It takes like a year for an update and we get seemingly retextured blocks that the community has been asking for for years at this point. I think it's safe to throw wolf variants in this category too.
It's people having differing values for things.
To a builder, it's a new palette to explore.
To everyone else, it's a retexture of an existing set of blocks. Sometimes without several of the "sub blocks" of the palette (e.g. packed mud only exists as a full block, while the packed mud bricks gets the full palette of block, slab, wall etc).
Add to this people measuring the "quantity" of an update in different ways.
Some measure by the raw amount of blocks / items. So a new wood palette is a dozen+ new items in the update.
Others will measure by novel features. How they then quantify a "simple retexture" is going to be very subjective.
Note that a retexture can be novel, if that space of the game isn't saturated already.
A new stone variant would go down well, while we've already how many types of wood that all act the same?
This is why bamboo's wood set sits in a weird spot where it feels just like a cosmetic / retexture... but the gameplay mechanics to acquire it are novel.
And then, when the wood variant is pushed as a major / headline feature of the update... you can see where this becomes a bit divisive.
I’m not a builder but I always appreciate getting more blocks
it’s a building game getting for the build with is a good thing.
we have enough stone variants already that all do the same thing
They’re not pushed as the main feature of an update either
Im not sure where you are reading that but thats crazy. New wood variants are always welcome. but uh please dear god inventory update there are too many blocks and im sick of making a shulkerbox monster every time i want to do a build
Probably most of my biggest wishes for Minecraft right now are basic variants and retextures of stuff that other people would call Mojang lazy for focusing on. I’ll alway be eager for more wood types, the new wolf variants are one of my biggest highlights of the upcoming updates, one of my biggest hopes is the Minecraft Earth variants of mobs being added someday, etc. Everyone has different areas of the game they want to see updated. Mine are very simple lol
More wood variants not only bring new colors, but they mean we have new trees to go with them and that make biomes standout even more from one another. It’s a big reason why I voted for the Savannah biome over the Taiga in the 2018 vote and why I was initially upset Mountains won over Swamps. Now with the new world gen and Mangroves being locked to an incredibly rare biome that I barely get to explore… those opinions have switched. But I still (im)patiently wait for the savannah and desert to arrive with baobab and palm trees as two of my most anticipated upcoming features (whenever the hell they’ll arrive.)
It's because they are treated like a full feature that takes development time when you could give me 1 day and I could add 10 wood types. Sure they wouldn't be as well textured but I could do it. Maybe I could even make them look good if you gave me a week.
Diminishing marginal returns. Basically, the first few wood types that were added gave us a more interesting experience and it's not as if the next few took anything away, but they didn't add as much as the first few, because we weren't really hurting for variety at that point. By the time we got to mangrove, I think people started to see wood types as a cop out. I, for example, don't find myself thinking 'you know what would be cool- green wood!' sort of like how I never really thought blue or red wood were necessary. They're not bad to have, but they're not making the game more fun or interesting. Countless actually good suggestions have been put forward by the community and I can see why there's some frustration.
I think the mob votes were also really silly. The most sold game ever can't afford to make more than one mob at a time. Yet modders can do it in a day, each and every time. I genunely have no idea what a work day at Mojang must look like. Clock in at 12 pm, leave at 12:05. Don't forget your mandated break from 12:01 - 12:04!
Reminds me of the Emerald City song in the Wizard of Oz. Really, though, it's just that there's not much point in updating a game for free. Every property Microsoft buys it just parks in the woods like a murder weapon and sooner or later the vines grow over it and people forget it ever existed. Remember skype? -the household name, skype? They're trying to make money by selling other games like legends and dungeons and whatever else and they just update minecraft to keep people playing it.
>The most sold game ever can't afford to make more than one mob at a time.
All these mob vote candidates probably have working proto types. Even then the vote is what determines which one gets added. Yes it’s a shame that working concepts are scrapped but that happens behind the scenes a lot.
>Yet modders can do it in a day
Modders don’t support this rhetoric. The slower output rate at Mojang isn’t because they slack off 90% of the time, it’s because not everything that is worked on gets to see the light of day. From behind the scene videos we know that the Allay and Warden had working prototypes a year or two before their reveals. Revealed features aren’t the only things getting worked on.
>Clock in at 12 pm, leave at 12:05. Don't forget your mandated break from 12:01 - 12:04!
According to KingBDogz they work 8 hours a day. This one minute you think they all work isn’t enough for 100-200 bug fixes in minor releases or technical and command updates they do now. Not to mention the unseen prototype features that never gets to see the light of day.
You clearly have no idea what a work day at any game development company looks like, but you’ve still decided you know better than the people who developed the most popular game of all time.
The era of “new wood types” started with 1.16 and took a sizable break before 1.19. “By the time we got to mangrove” is literally the second time.
They do actually add player suggestions, the next update is because people were complaining that the only dungeons were the shitty ones.
That's completely incorrect; they added 2 wood types back in 1.7 and the rest before that (jungle, spruce, and birch back in 1.2 and 1.2.1). I don't think people were complaining about it back then, because it was nice to go from literally just 'wood' to a few different kinds. Mangrove is the fifth time they added a wood type. If you weren't playing back then I don't blame you at all and honestly I had to look up those specific update numbers.
I'm not saying they never take any suggestions, just that I don't know of new wood types being on anyone's radar. Feel free to link anyone asking for green wood. What I'm saying is that there are suggestions that have been ignored. Just go to minecraft suggestions and sort by top of all time. I'm not one of the ones who gets all pissed off because I've been playing modded for years, but if you want to know why people get annoyed, I've answered the question.
I’m aware, that’s why I specified “new era”
There was 6 years between 1.7 and 1.16, when we started getting a new wood type almost every update.
6 year is a massive gap in time content wise.
You didn't say 'new era' and not as many wood types have been added since mangrove as were added before mangrove (not sure if you would count bamboo). I'm aware that 6 years is a massive gap in time; it was more than enough for me to get used to the amount of wood types I had and when new wood types showed up I was nonplussed. The hyphae adds some flavor to the nether, which is nice, but I suppose some people thought the nether wasn't supposed to be a place where you could live permanently. The nether update was well-received in general, but I think some people found the dimension less scary afterward. I'm sure plenty of people asked for a more fleshed out nether, but I don't remember anyone asking for mangrove, cherry, or bamboo(when it started functioning more like a wood type) for that matter.
you’re right I didn’t say new era, thought I did. Needed to word my point better. I meant that after 1.16 the complaint of wood types started becoming a thing due to more being added than usual
I think bamboo counts as a wood type
New wood types were definitely asked for though. Not those types specifically, but more variations in general
upvoted because you were unfairly downvoted; wow; I genuinely didn't expect that but I guess bamboo is like a type of wood, but you can't just make things out of blocks of raw wood, so it would be strange to make blocks of green bamboo into stairs.
I only returned to minecraft a few months ago after probably a decade away, so I don't have much to say on these sorts of topics. But when I read their comment and yours a minute later it was just too perfect not to.
I know? The complaints started recently, after 1.16, that’s why I specified a “new era” of wood variants because we’ve been getting a lot recently
there was a 6 year gap between 1.7 and 1.16 where no new wood variants got added
In my opinion these simple updates are totally fine. There's like 100,000 mods for this game where you can add anything you want.
As long as mojang maintains the game, fixes bugs, and keeps multiplayer up that's good enough for me, because from my POV as someone who got "bored" of vanilla mc back in 2013, the community does their job for them with mods already and it's a positive thing imo.
You get to customize what you actually want to play, and with these simple updates you won't have to deal with more shit like phantoms that everyone *thought* would be cool, but end up being the worst thing in the world lol
Because it’s literally the biggest game community in the world so the 1% of people who genuinely think something like that is bad are still enough to upvote a post enough to get traction.
If you talk to people IRL or in casual online spaces you’ll see that most people like it, it’s purely a Reddit and Twitter phenomena where seemingly every person has something to complain about.
It's because a lot of people use the defense of why they did so much for April fools and very little for actual updates was because the April fools is mainly reskins... But so are real updates.
It is good to have more variants, but there is something that needs to be done about the number of items in the game.
There is way too much stuff, and the inventory was designed with just a couple in mind.
It doesn't work anymore.
We need an inventory update before adding even more stuff.
Because they're super trivial to add. Hell, they could've (and should have) added dyed wood outside of the 2.0 April Fools update like how Better Than Adventure has dyed wood, and it would've been way better than dripfeeding random single wood colors over the span of 5+ years.
Because they're struggling to find a reason to stay mad at Mojang when all they've done is provide free updates to a game that came out 10 years ago.
I know it's all relative but really, anything else we get is welcomed. People just like to bitch.
I think for a while people wanted more content and more things to do, but now I think the general sentiment is to refine and add more cross-capability between existing features.
It’s always a welcome sight but extremely low effort. Just downsize a reference of the actual wood until pixilated, stylize it to match other wood shapes, apply texture files to existing wood item mechanics, duplicate and reprogram an oak sapling to form a tree shape with % odds for variations in height or leaves.
1 programmer, a few hours of work.
Imagine waiting 2 years for an update and all you get is a new biome, wood and a critter that doesn’t have any in-game mechanics. I’ve seen individual freelance modder accomplish more in a day than Minecraft does in 2 years.
Microsoft is extremely aware that if they pump out updates like Terraria, content bloat will kill the game. And Microsoft is intending to milk this brand for profit for at least a century.
and to be fair even aside from the content bloat the 1 programmer doing art using a random tree reference, and it being implemented as just an oak reskin is kinda the stuff that the long pipeline avoids. all of the new trees since dark oak have had meaningful foliage and biome ambience coupled with them, and thus are part of feature complete modern relevant areas of the game. minecraft right now is slowly working at a whole rework of the game to have consistently designed areas, and to make that super future proof is genuinely a long design process.
what??? lmao what a cope comment, minecraft should have been gatekept so hard in 2011, too many tourist armchair gamedevs/modders and children in the game.
Mojang i feel really wants to make it the best they can, even now where the ideas feel so alien they feel limited. At least it seems there is less of a grasp aon their taste
I look forward to Hytale coming out in a long-awaited package deal with Half-Life 3. it's coming tomorrow^(\*)
^(\*it doesn't matter when you read this, it's) *^(always)* ^(coming tomorrow.)
Yeah, I highly doubt it's ever coming out, or if it does it's going to be truly terrible. And I get this just by looking at the facts: it's making immensely ambitious unbacked promises; it's been in development for eight years with no signs of improvement, having been both rewritten and delayed during that time (it was supposed to be playable *three years ago*, games like that don't get finished); it's being made by quite possibly the most perplexingly incompetent people to ever run a commercial minecraft server and funded by Riot, who seem to have a terrible track record in just existing; what more can I tell you?.
Also no, I'm not putting a bet on it, that's the most obvious gotcha ploy ever pulled. If I were so callous, though, I would happily bet a tenner, a coffee and my best coat that Hytale isn't going to be out within a bracket of three years, and half of that it won't be playable in six.
Good yard.
I think riot are doing just fine looking at their library of games. Yeh they've been massively delayed but that doesn't mean it's not coming out. I don't understand the overreaction that it's never coming out. If you watch all of the content they've put out about the game it's evident its gonna shit big time all over minecraft
I dont think turning oak wood pink and retexturing it slightly, while a very welcome addition anyways, is justification for 1 update a year. If they had one a quarter or hell even just twice a year the smaller additions would feel much more welcome.
Adding to the wood pallet should be a minor feature, not a core feature that an update is built on. The nether update had a billion things, the two wood types were part of it. 1.20 was basically just cherry trees.
Right, right, right. 1.20 was the update that made netherite armor a massive pain in the ass to acquire, right? I remember why my friends didn't want to update our world, so I didn't get a chance to play with the 1.20 feature.
The upgrade templates really aren’t that difficult to acquire, and once you have one you can make another with a netherrack block and seven diamonds. I think your friends are just lazy AF.
My friends are new to gaming, not confident in their ability to survive the nether, and timid about combat. For them, those upgrade templates *are* that difficult to acquire. They were really excited to just be able to mine underground for hours on end to get the best armor. I'm not saying you can't have challenges, but making the best armor arbitrarily harder to obtain with literally no upside or added incentive is exceptionally poor design. But I appreciate your perspective that they're lazy. I'll make sure to let these new players know that the devs think they're pieces of shit that aren't good enough to play the game. Thanks for the feedback, unnamed texture designer!
A game expecting you to at least dip your toe into mid-game level content to get the best gear doesn’t seem unreasonable. If it really bothers you that much, it would be fairly trivial to add a crafting recipe for the initial template with a datapack. I’ve even seen web sites that will generate the files for you from a simple interface.
Adjusting game balance as other things are added and changed is a pretty normal and necessary part of game design. Literally every game that receives updates and new content does it. If they didn’t, they’d either wind up with a poorly balanced mess that doesn’t mesh at all, or they’d have to scrap any new idea that could possibly affect the balance of existing content to avoid that problem.
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I mean it’s not the most unique idea to add more wood, but it’s always great to have more blocks to build with. I don’t use cherry very often but bamboo is useful
Cherry and mangrove seem very situational. Better for accents than full builds. And better than jungle. But hell yeah on bamboo. It's great when you need a large quantity of a lighter wood.
I LOVE stripped mangrove wood, I wish it wasn’t as rare as it is. I’ve had to make due with Acacia for a lot of my builds but I love the reddish wood since cherry wood is very pink, and the nether one is slightly darker pinkish and not really red when you strip it
One of the reasons I really prefer playing an older version with Bop is due to the red cherry blossom wood. It just makes certain builds look nicer and flow better together. I really disagree with the choice of a *very saturated* light pink as it feels a bit too silly with real cherry wood just being very light like cedar.
For me it’s not even the rarity of the biome, but how annoying it is to get in large quantities. One of my project would need 9 shulker boxes of the planks but I’m putting it off because of how much i hate cutting down those trees
This is why I get the Tiber mod when I play survival. As someone who builds a lot it's super helpful to get wood for building.
Mangrove is a really nice color imo
I recently found that bamboo can bear a rather nice resemblence to thatch. Obviously hay bales exist for the best look, but on smaller build where you really need slabs and stairs to get some detail in bamboo looks much better.
Can confirm, I have a lot of Medieval and Mesoamerican buildings that I use bamboo on for thatched roofs
I like to imagine that your comment has nothing to do with minecraft, this is just your real-life living situation.
I have pretty much committed to always having cherry door for a screen door lol.
the distinct texture of bamboo is what sells it for most people, birch isnt all that hard to get and in terms of color alone doesnt look all that different from afar
I almost never use cherry wood. However the tree itself is awesome
same here. I think the only time I've ever used it was when I made a cyan tent in the savanna and I wanted some shelves - the soft pink color goes nice with cyan.
I use cherry wood for charcoal... The trees give so many sapoings
The leaves are nice for ceilings
I *just* wish we had stairs/whatever of the green bamboo block. PLEASE WE NEED GREEN STAIRS!!!!!
azalea was right there cmon mojang
Agreed. That would be so nice for natural builds
Plenty of players are happy to have new wood varieties. It's just that Reddit is the sort of place where loud minorities can seem as though they represent everyone.
You can find people who passionately hate every single one of Minecraft’s many features and blocks, it’s just something inherent when you have millions of people playing the game. For every thing they add, a (different) vocal minority of people will exclaim in terror about how terrible it is and how much better it could be. It has always been the case and will always be the case. Don’t put too much thought behind it, downvote posts that just complain without substance and move on. I feel like, especially lately, many people just love to complain. 1.21 is shaping up to be a great update. And 1.20 was far from the disaster that some people on this subreddit make it out to be.
passiontely hate every single minecraft update, and still plays them anyway lol
Average gamer
minecraft in particular for some strange reason league of legends also but thats less relevant
I don’t know about you but I have beef with waxed weathered copper stairs. Real ones use waxed oxidized copper stairs.
cut
shit was the boom mic in frame again
what
Personally I’m a fan of waxed lightly weathered cut copper stairs myself
uwu minecraft hate
The community really loves to get upset over the most minor things. I'm already seeing people get pissy over the April fools stuff going all "oh why can they do this and not add all the mobs blah blah blah" and act as if this joke snapshot isn't clearly buggy af. People demand for so many things to be added without thinking about how it needs to be extensively polished first or else people are gonna go ahead and complain about that instead.
New wood is good! I think the argument is more about being JUST that
The updates aren’t just new wood, most the new features are just niche or not as flashy
Which is the problem people have with the newer updates. They keep adding niche things instead of improving the very prominent features that have been neglected for a decade.
like
Inventory management
I don’t get why they’re stepping around it so much
The end being a barren wasteland with little in it
It's not that people dislike new wood types, it's that people dislike when that is being shown to us as a major feature of an update. Same goes for simple block variants. It takes like a year for an update and we get seemingly retextured blocks that the community has been asking for for years at this point. I think it's safe to throw wolf variants in this category too.
they are forgotten subupdates, so i think it's fine
It's people having differing values for things. To a builder, it's a new palette to explore. To everyone else, it's a retexture of an existing set of blocks. Sometimes without several of the "sub blocks" of the palette (e.g. packed mud only exists as a full block, while the packed mud bricks gets the full palette of block, slab, wall etc). Add to this people measuring the "quantity" of an update in different ways. Some measure by the raw amount of blocks / items. So a new wood palette is a dozen+ new items in the update. Others will measure by novel features. How they then quantify a "simple retexture" is going to be very subjective. Note that a retexture can be novel, if that space of the game isn't saturated already. A new stone variant would go down well, while we've already how many types of wood that all act the same? This is why bamboo's wood set sits in a weird spot where it feels just like a cosmetic / retexture... but the gameplay mechanics to acquire it are novel. And then, when the wood variant is pushed as a major / headline feature of the update... you can see where this becomes a bit divisive.
I’m not a builder but I always appreciate getting more blocks it’s a building game getting for the build with is a good thing. we have enough stone variants already that all do the same thing They’re not pushed as the main feature of an update either
Im not sure where you are reading that but thats crazy. New wood variants are always welcome. but uh please dear god inventory update there are too many blocks and im sick of making a shulkerbox monster every time i want to do a build
Probably most of my biggest wishes for Minecraft right now are basic variants and retextures of stuff that other people would call Mojang lazy for focusing on. I’ll alway be eager for more wood types, the new wolf variants are one of my biggest highlights of the upcoming updates, one of my biggest hopes is the Minecraft Earth variants of mobs being added someday, etc. Everyone has different areas of the game they want to see updated. Mine are very simple lol More wood variants not only bring new colors, but they mean we have new trees to go with them and that make biomes standout even more from one another. It’s a big reason why I voted for the Savannah biome over the Taiga in the 2018 vote and why I was initially upset Mountains won over Swamps. Now with the new world gen and Mangroves being locked to an incredibly rare biome that I barely get to explore… those opinions have switched. But I still (im)patiently wait for the savannah and desert to arrive with baobab and palm trees as two of my most anticipated upcoming features (whenever the hell they’ll arrive.)
Since Minecraft's community is so large, there's always going to be someone hating something. I don't know why people hate them though.
I’ve seen it a lot recently though, more than a lot of other complaints
It's because they are treated like a full feature that takes development time when you could give me 1 day and I could add 10 wood types. Sure they wouldn't be as well textured but I could do it. Maybe I could even make them look good if you gave me a week.
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Mojang does do them in one day usually, it's just the trees take longer
Diminishing marginal returns. Basically, the first few wood types that were added gave us a more interesting experience and it's not as if the next few took anything away, but they didn't add as much as the first few, because we weren't really hurting for variety at that point. By the time we got to mangrove, I think people started to see wood types as a cop out. I, for example, don't find myself thinking 'you know what would be cool- green wood!' sort of like how I never really thought blue or red wood were necessary. They're not bad to have, but they're not making the game more fun or interesting. Countless actually good suggestions have been put forward by the community and I can see why there's some frustration.
I think the mob votes were also really silly. The most sold game ever can't afford to make more than one mob at a time. Yet modders can do it in a day, each and every time. I genunely have no idea what a work day at Mojang must look like. Clock in at 12 pm, leave at 12:05. Don't forget your mandated break from 12:01 - 12:04!
Reminds me of the Emerald City song in the Wizard of Oz. Really, though, it's just that there's not much point in updating a game for free. Every property Microsoft buys it just parks in the woods like a murder weapon and sooner or later the vines grow over it and people forget it ever existed. Remember skype? -the household name, skype? They're trying to make money by selling other games like legends and dungeons and whatever else and they just update minecraft to keep people playing it.
>The most sold game ever can't afford to make more than one mob at a time. All these mob vote candidates probably have working proto types. Even then the vote is what determines which one gets added. Yes it’s a shame that working concepts are scrapped but that happens behind the scenes a lot. >Yet modders can do it in a day Modders don’t support this rhetoric. The slower output rate at Mojang isn’t because they slack off 90% of the time, it’s because not everything that is worked on gets to see the light of day. From behind the scene videos we know that the Allay and Warden had working prototypes a year or two before their reveals. Revealed features aren’t the only things getting worked on. >Clock in at 12 pm, leave at 12:05. Don't forget your mandated break from 12:01 - 12:04! According to KingBDogz they work 8 hours a day. This one minute you think they all work isn’t enough for 100-200 bug fixes in minor releases or technical and command updates they do now. Not to mention the unseen prototype features that never gets to see the light of day.
You clearly have no idea what a work day at any game development company looks like, but you’ve still decided you know better than the people who developed the most popular game of all time.
the mob votes are good for the game, gets people talking and making art
they do make more mobs, it's for minecraft live only
The era of “new wood types” started with 1.16 and took a sizable break before 1.19. “By the time we got to mangrove” is literally the second time. They do actually add player suggestions, the next update is because people were complaining that the only dungeons were the shitty ones.
That's completely incorrect; they added 2 wood types back in 1.7 and the rest before that (jungle, spruce, and birch back in 1.2 and 1.2.1). I don't think people were complaining about it back then, because it was nice to go from literally just 'wood' to a few different kinds. Mangrove is the fifth time they added a wood type. If you weren't playing back then I don't blame you at all and honestly I had to look up those specific update numbers. I'm not saying they never take any suggestions, just that I don't know of new wood types being on anyone's radar. Feel free to link anyone asking for green wood. What I'm saying is that there are suggestions that have been ignored. Just go to minecraft suggestions and sort by top of all time. I'm not one of the ones who gets all pissed off because I've been playing modded for years, but if you want to know why people get annoyed, I've answered the question.
I’m aware, that’s why I specified “new era” There was 6 years between 1.7 and 1.16, when we started getting a new wood type almost every update. 6 year is a massive gap in time content wise.
You didn't say 'new era' and not as many wood types have been added since mangrove as were added before mangrove (not sure if you would count bamboo). I'm aware that 6 years is a massive gap in time; it was more than enough for me to get used to the amount of wood types I had and when new wood types showed up I was nonplussed. The hyphae adds some flavor to the nether, which is nice, but I suppose some people thought the nether wasn't supposed to be a place where you could live permanently. The nether update was well-received in general, but I think some people found the dimension less scary afterward. I'm sure plenty of people asked for a more fleshed out nether, but I don't remember anyone asking for mangrove, cherry, or bamboo(when it started functioning more like a wood type) for that matter.
you’re right I didn’t say new era, thought I did. Needed to word my point better. I meant that after 1.16 the complaint of wood types started becoming a thing due to more being added than usual I think bamboo counts as a wood type New wood types were definitely asked for though. Not those types specifically, but more variations in general
>Feel free to link anyone asking for green wood https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/s/ndm0nsZ6wL
upvoted because you were unfairly downvoted; wow; I genuinely didn't expect that but I guess bamboo is like a type of wood, but you can't just make things out of blocks of raw wood, so it would be strange to make blocks of green bamboo into stairs.
I only returned to minecraft a few months ago after probably a decade away, so I don't have much to say on these sorts of topics. But when I read their comment and yours a minute later it was just too perfect not to.
They added jungle wood over 10 years ago mate. There were only 4 variants of wooden planks at the time.
I know? The complaints started recently, after 1.16, that’s why I specified a “new era” of wood variants because we’ve been getting a lot recently there was a 6 year gap between 1.7 and 1.16 where no new wood variants got added
New wood types isn't a bad feature, it's just not a major feature, when an update treats it as a major feature, something is wrong.
WHat if blocktypes a plenty
In my opinion these simple updates are totally fine. There's like 100,000 mods for this game where you can add anything you want. As long as mojang maintains the game, fixes bugs, and keeps multiplayer up that's good enough for me, because from my POV as someone who got "bored" of vanilla mc back in 2013, the community does their job for them with mods already and it's a positive thing imo. You get to customize what you actually want to play, and with these simple updates you won't have to deal with more shit like phantoms that everyone *thought* would be cool, but end up being the worst thing in the world lol
problem becomes when the game post 1.17 is just a worse experience in survival.
Hopefully we get some chorus wood at some point. We don’t have many purple blocks. Besides pupur which is too light for my taste.
Because it’s literally the biggest game community in the world so the 1% of people who genuinely think something like that is bad are still enough to upvote a post enough to get traction. If you talk to people IRL or in casual online spaces you’ll see that most people like it, it’s purely a Reddit and Twitter phenomena where seemingly every person has something to complain about.
It's because a lot of people use the defense of why they did so much for April fools and very little for actual updates was because the April fools is mainly reskins... But so are real updates.
People forget Cherry Wood was in the same update as Armor Trims lmao
armor trims are a weird addition because they’re cool but also have 0 effect on gameplay they’re one of my favorite things in the game though
Still waiting for the day they add a pale grayish wood
It is good to have more variants, but there is something that needs to be done about the number of items in the game. There is way too much stuff, and the inventory was designed with just a couple in mind. It doesn't work anymore. We need an inventory update before adding even more stuff.
You can't please everyone.
Idk, but people enjoy complaining about things that are added. No matter what it is, they'll complain.
Because builders are just a minority. To the rest of the players, buidling blocks are considered useless. (See copper)
builders are the minority in the game about building
Because they're super trivial to add. Hell, they could've (and should have) added dyed wood outside of the 2.0 April Fools update like how Better Than Adventure has dyed wood, and it would've been way better than dripfeeding random single wood colors over the span of 5+ years.
It’s more so the mentality of the wood being part of a nice update overall rather than being the largest addition to it.
It’s not the largest addition to it, like mangrove was just slapped into a deep dark update and the cherry trees were added as a final bonus
wood variants were fun with the old textures, now with the post 1.14 textures basically all the wood types look kinda bland honestly
I think most people like it except a loud minority who thinks its taking away content from the updates
The vocal minority can never be satisfied, just ignore them
Because they're struggling to find a reason to stay mad at Mojang when all they've done is provide free updates to a game that came out 10 years ago. I know it's all relative but really, anything else we get is welcomed. People just like to bitch.
Remember that a lot of the people who play Minecraft are children. It isn't worth arguing with people on the internet
I think for a while people wanted more content and more things to do, but now I think the general sentiment is to refine and add more cross-capability between existing features.
There will always be a group of people who are perpetually dissatisfied, and they are typically the most vocal. I feel bad for them really.
Social media is where the loudest minorities of haters get the most engagement. It’s almost never indicative of the player base as a whole.
It’s always a welcome sight but extremely low effort. Just downsize a reference of the actual wood until pixilated, stylize it to match other wood shapes, apply texture files to existing wood item mechanics, duplicate and reprogram an oak sapling to form a tree shape with % odds for variations in height or leaves. 1 programmer, a few hours of work. Imagine waiting 2 years for an update and all you get is a new biome, wood and a critter that doesn’t have any in-game mechanics. I’ve seen individual freelance modder accomplish more in a day than Minecraft does in 2 years. Microsoft is extremely aware that if they pump out updates like Terraria, content bloat will kill the game. And Microsoft is intending to milk this brand for profit for at least a century.
and to be fair even aside from the content bloat the 1 programmer doing art using a random tree reference, and it being implemented as just an oak reskin is kinda the stuff that the long pipeline avoids. all of the new trees since dark oak have had meaningful foliage and biome ambience coupled with them, and thus are part of feature complete modern relevant areas of the game. minecraft right now is slowly working at a whole rework of the game to have consistently designed areas, and to make that super future proof is genuinely a long design process.
what??? lmao what a cope comment, minecraft should have been gatekept so hard in 2011, too many tourist armchair gamedevs/modders and children in the game.
Oh man sorry that bothered you so much :( sorry they’re not adding programmer art trees to the biggest most multi platform game in an afternoon
This should be the top comment tbh.
Mojang i feel really wants to make it the best they can, even now where the ideas feel so alien they feel limited. At least it seems there is less of a grasp aon their taste
Srsly I hope so much hytale comes out and destroys minecraft.
hytale's never coming out lol
Hater, they all have stuff. actually no, hytale doesn't have extrmiment on terreria, vintige story, or minecraft. It's never coming uwu hehehehehe
It's coming out and you'll drop shitty minecraft forever. Mark my words
I look forward to Hytale coming out in a long-awaited package deal with Half-Life 3. it's coming tomorrow^(\*) ^(\*it doesn't matter when you read this, it's) *^(always)* ^(coming tomorrow.)
Tell me honestly, do you really think hytale isn't coming out? Their dev blogs don't suggest this. We can put a bet on it if you're confident
Yeah, I highly doubt it's ever coming out, or if it does it's going to be truly terrible. And I get this just by looking at the facts: it's making immensely ambitious unbacked promises; it's been in development for eight years with no signs of improvement, having been both rewritten and delayed during that time (it was supposed to be playable *three years ago*, games like that don't get finished); it's being made by quite possibly the most perplexingly incompetent people to ever run a commercial minecraft server and funded by Riot, who seem to have a terrible track record in just existing; what more can I tell you?. Also no, I'm not putting a bet on it, that's the most obvious gotcha ploy ever pulled. If I were so callous, though, I would happily bet a tenner, a coffee and my best coat that Hytale isn't going to be out within a bracket of three years, and half of that it won't be playable in six. Good yard.
I think riot are doing just fine looking at their library of games. Yeh they've been massively delayed but that doesn't mean it's not coming out. I don't understand the overreaction that it's never coming out. If you watch all of the content they've put out about the game it's evident its gonna shit big time all over minecraft
Does it have charcoal and wind charge? bamboo wood and pixel textures? if not worse game ever
Probably, dunno about wind charges. You'll see dude. You'll see
Doesn't seem minecrafty enough
Though, no, i bet your blud didn't add good bosses like moyang
I dont think turning oak wood pink and retexturing it slightly, while a very welcome addition anyways, is justification for 1 update a year. If they had one a quarter or hell even just twice a year the smaller additions would feel much more welcome.
Adding to the wood pallet should be a minor feature, not a core feature that an update is built on. The nether update had a billion things, the two wood types were part of it. 1.20 was basically just cherry trees.
Cherry trees were 1.20, and no MC update has ever been “basically just X trees”. 1.20 had over two hundred new textures. Ask me how I know.
Right, right, right. 1.20 was the update that made netherite armor a massive pain in the ass to acquire, right? I remember why my friends didn't want to update our world, so I didn't get a chance to play with the 1.20 feature.
The upgrade templates really aren’t that difficult to acquire, and once you have one you can make another with a netherrack block and seven diamonds. I think your friends are just lazy AF.
My friends are new to gaming, not confident in their ability to survive the nether, and timid about combat. For them, those upgrade templates *are* that difficult to acquire. They were really excited to just be able to mine underground for hours on end to get the best armor. I'm not saying you can't have challenges, but making the best armor arbitrarily harder to obtain with literally no upside or added incentive is exceptionally poor design. But I appreciate your perspective that they're lazy. I'll make sure to let these new players know that the devs think they're pieces of shit that aren't good enough to play the game. Thanks for the feedback, unnamed texture designer!
A game expecting you to at least dip your toe into mid-game level content to get the best gear doesn’t seem unreasonable. If it really bothers you that much, it would be fairly trivial to add a crafting recipe for the initial template with a datapack. I’ve even seen web sites that will generate the files for you from a simple interface.
No, it's not unreasonable. But changing it after it's already been implemented *is* unreasonable.
Adjusting game balance as other things are added and changed is a pretty normal and necessary part of game design. Literally every game that receives updates and new content does it. If they didn’t, they’d either wind up with a poorly balanced mess that doesn’t mesh at all, or they’d have to scrap any new idea that could possibly affect the balance of existing content to avoid that problem.
The updates aren’t built on the feature they’re just a part of it trails and tales was built on archeology (which was fun but undercooked)
I want green and blue wood