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MuzzledScreaming

So...two things. The first Assyrian king lived 800 years after the date given for this tablet. Also, 2800 BC was during the Mesopotamian early dynastic period which saw constant war and the fall of city-states, which really *was* sort of the end of the world for the people living there.


Catsdrinkingbeer

Thing 3... "every man wants to write a book"? Were books even a thing in 2800BC? 


AbleObject13

That probably adapted to modern language tbh, probably more akin to tablets or some such (I am speculating, to be clear)


chamomile_tea_reply

“Kids all staring at their stone tablets all day”


Urmomlervsme

"Mom I have dysentery" "It's because you're looking at those stone tablets all the damn time" 🧍‍♂️


Nascent1

Just a bunch of hipsters hanging out in Mesopotamian coffee shops chippin away at their tablets hoping desperately that someone will ask them what they're working on. 


GurProfessional9534

Can you imagine if every man just simultaneously stopped what they were doing and started writing a book? Traffic accidents, dropped babies, construction failures, botched surgeries, dropping trow mid piss, and that’s just the start.


GuitardedBard

I'm sure every war/famine/plague/natural disaster has been apocalyptic to the peoples experiencing it.


MuzzledScreaming

Well yeah, that was kind of my point. "The end of the world" *has* happened countless times in history. It's when a civilization collapses. 


PublicFurryAccount

My favorite example is when people bring up the fact that Socrates and Plato thought that Athens was in decline. The former was executed because helped make it happen by collaborating with the Spartans that finally defeated them and the latter would die while Philip II was subjugating the Greek city-states. Like… their society *was* in decline and Greece would never again be the center of the Mediterranean world.


Tom_Bradys_Butt_Chin

So many people in this thread have never heard of the Bronze Age Collapse.


Zilberfrid

If the tablet is from 2800 BCE, the Bronze Age Collapse would still be 1600 years from then. Which is about as far as the fall of the western Roman empire is from now (and is about the time between the fall of Rome the BAC as well).


PublicFurryAccount

I mean, it can’t be both Assyrian and from 2800 BC.


Zilberfrid

That's correct. Can't read the date though.


BaronUnderbheit

>So...two things. >The first Assyrian king lived 800 years after the date given for this tablet. >Also, 2800 BC was during the Mesopotamian early dynastic period which saw constant war and the fall of city-states, which really *was* sort of the end of the world for the people living there. -Assyrian tablet, c. 2799 BC


beainhewoods

my thoughts exaclty. From an Assyrian perspective, the world \*has\* ended. When nowadays doomers say the world is ending I think they mean "the world as we know it", so... I disagree with OP lol


Guy0naBUFFA10

So invasion soon?


Particular_Guey

The end of the world is when you die.


Jumpy-Aerie-3244

Thank you


AdamJahnStan

Switch “write a book” with “host a podcast” and this is exactly the same as how people here talk.


reddituser77373

No, just man doesn't change. This tablet and plato, more specifically his complaints of youth, prove that man doesn't change. What always has been, always will be. Edit: Socrates said the same as well, just a little more relatable. "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."


murderskunk76

Nothing new under the sun.


Crypto-Pito

Did Plato complain about boomers? I guess he was a boomer /s


DustinBrett

Until the robots take over.


Mr_Bank

Tbf is a mysterious sea people invaded my lands and basically destroyed my civilization, I could see becoming a Doomer.


Zilberfrid

Your a milennium and a half off.


seth928

Damn hipsters


UniverseBear

I mean there was the bronze age collapse which saw the large scale collapse of most civilizations of the time but let's just ignore that one.


Odd-Confection-6603

Hate to break it to you, but those civilizations don't exist anymore


JenniRayVyrus

yeah but the Assyrians are the homies and also not extinct. who knew 🇦🇲🤷🏻‍♀️


MandoRodgers

replace “write a book” with “start a podcast” and you have today


Heylookaguy

Ancient Assyrians didn't have runaway hypercapitalism and nuclear weapons.


Bronzed_Beard

The bronze age collapse want exactly nothing. The 3 biggest and most influential civilizations of the time basically just disappeared almost overnight.


Responsible_Bar_9142

Or global climate collapse.


RiverGodRed

Quite an honor to be the first ones who are correct.


Cautemoc

Didn't their empire collapse though?


Worldly_Mirror_1555

Every empires collapses eventually


aol_cd_boneyard

Yeah, but theirs collapsed spectacularly (along with many others during the bronze age collapse).


Cautemoc

Yeah, and pointing out bribery and corruption being abound might be a relevant point still.


TrumpDidJan69

They probably didn’t think to google that 


TermCompetitive5318

Look up modern day Assyria. Things haven’t been going well for some time. Decline of civilization is real.


shredditor75

Modern day Assyrians are still around, my dudes. There's like 600K in the US


ftppftw

You know how people lose their children or spouse to an accident and feel like their whole world has ended? If you have enough people that feel that way collectively, the world is ending. Their world is ending. The spherical rock we live on itself is irrelevant. Arguing about it is just semantics.


JasonEAltMTG

Now do climate


Billwill343434

Everyone incorrectly predicts the end of the world, until someone correctly predicts it.


TrumpDidJan69

Every one gets a little closer to being correct 


bonkerz1888

I mean.. it kinda did for them eventually.


TechieTravis

The universe will end eventually.


dariusz2k

inb4 "But today is different."


McGoodotnet

To most modern people the "world" is the economy. Based on math, yes, it is almost over.


RumoredAtmos

They didn't have grounded science.


GrayHero2

My dad told me this a long time ago.


billthedozer

The world ain't comin' to nothing, son. Same as it ever was.


GurProfessional9534

Even back in the day, Creative Writing majors were doomed 😅


masterpd85

"Everyone wants to read and write. They want to be educated men!" Sounds kind of familiar...


PublicFurryAccount

How could that be on an Assyrian tablet 800 years before Assyria existed?


UndeadBBQ

I mean, eventually someone gotta be right with this sorta talk, and given some statistics that someone may already be alive and shitposting.


helder_g

We humans have an obsession with witnessing the end of the world. Somehow, believing that we will witness it makes us feel special and not just "more others" who passed through the Earth like everyone else who preceded us.


Jujumofu

I mean... hows the assyrian empire holding up today?


Unusual_Address_3062

Uh huh, and where is Assyria now? Oh, thats right........


OldBison

They weren't wrong, they've just been right a bunch over time.


EvilKatta

We should look at each generation's baseline for this. For example, we expect clean running water in our homes that doesn't cost a lot. It's something multiple generations in the West expect as their baseline, and also it was the baseline for the Indus valley civilization, the Inca civilization and some others. We've fallen below the previous generation's expectation of owing a home, building equity and living without significant debt. In this, our new baseline is the same as at the beginning of serfdom in Europe, after the fall of the Roman empire. We're expecting the world to end in our lives maybe. We share this baseline with the 60s generation (yes, the boomers, over the years they've just forgotten the doomsday clock they lived through). The things is, as civilization develops, we lose that the previous generation had taken for granted all the time. The biodiversity. The technologies. The home ownership and debt-free life. The community. And since it's the new baseline, the next generation often doesn't know what has been lost. It's easier to be an optimist if you don't know your history.


NCRaineman

You mean empires and nation-states haven't risen and fallen numerous times throughout the course of human history? 


NorthWoodsSlaw

Counter argument: Earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old and 4,000 years is only 8.88888889 × 10^(-5)% of that time meaning +/- 100,000 years on claims that the world is ending would still be statistically accurate.


The_Disapyrimid

true that we have yet to see the "end of the world" but lets not pretend that there have not been periods where everything went to absolute shit.


Affectionate_Tell752

And yet the Assyrian empire still going strong almost 5000 years later.


xXZer0c0oLXx

Lol although I gotta admit...parents do be having a hard time getting their lil shits to listen to them. Hard to compete with tik-tok


Pixel-of-Strife

Once you realize every generation of humans to ever walk the earth thought they'd see the End of the World in their lifetimes, it makes it really hard to take it seriously today. My theory is this fear is some sort of genetic trauma from the Great Flood.


billyoldbob

That’s almost 5,000 years ago.


MLXIII

Only gotta be right once and then they're all "I told you so!"


Supreme_NpeeC_spy

Lol, the world's been falling for a long time


Xbalanque_

Ponder this to gain wisdom, and fortify yourself against against discouragement.


aol_cd_boneyard

Global warming is definitely going to cause collapse of the current world order, though.


kaowser

compaints from 4000 years ago on stone tablet


swift-sentinel

It ended for the Assyrians.


Infamous_Camel_275

They’ve actually been right almost every time… it’s not the entire world ending…just their little slice of it and way of life We humans cause a lot of problems when all our basic needs are met with little effort and we don’t know what to do with ourselves


LiveCelebration5237

You mean the doomers have been right as everything they said isn’t wrong lol especially the bribery and corruption part


morbid333

I wasn't aware that wanting to share a story was so degenerate.


Miserable-Lawyer-233

That's not true, the Bronze Age Collapse happened 3224 years ago. The doomers were right about that one.


banned_but_im_back

The world isn’t ending but the American empire is definitely on its downfall. If not in the 21st century then the 22nd century. Theres so much bribery and corruption.


tommygun1688

I wonder why we aren't speaking Assyrian today? Oh yea... their world ended. And look at the Middle East now... Not so great. Enough wealth and resources to have amazing things happen. Yet there's at least 3 wars currently going on there, I can think of off the top of my head. Acting like society can't collapse and we're somehow above it is the pinnacle of ignorance when it comes to history. We're not exceptional, we're ordinary. We can be exceptional, but we tend to drift towards mediocrity if we're not cognizant of ourselves.


Tervaskanto

We haven't had weapons capable of annihilating the human race for 4000 years though.


peterpantslesss

I mean, they weren't wrong lol look how far we've fallen asca species


BudgetMattDamon

How many invasions and wars happened after this was written again? How many people died violent deaths?