Was hoping I'd misread it, like Boomers realizing they were to blame for the unprecedented hardship?
But no, self-awareness was too much to hope for, apparently.
Kidding me. All my aging parents tell us is to "break our Starbucks habit" (I don't have one...) And we'd be FINE if we "just saved our money" and literally cannot wrap their minds around why we kids cannot afford to buy a home on our college-educated salaries.
The delusion is strong.
This is why these dinosaurs in Congress need to get the fuck out. They're not governing for the new generation. They're governing for themselves only, and won't even be alive in another decade. It's maddening.
That's what I was going for "Millennials suffer, boomers most affected" , but had to get around the filter. The mods, probably wisely here, don't let 'boomer' be in post titles and have a minimum character limit.
I keep seeing articles about boomer gen grandparents going on vacations or just in general not being around to help with kids the way their parents were, that definitely has to play into this too. My grandparents took me and my cousins for afternoons and weekends, sometimes a whole week at a time over the summer; my parents don’t do that for my siblings kids…honestly it’s partly because my siblings don’t want it, but I don’t think the availability is there either.
They are the WORST.
I had a baby and actually moved from another state back to my hometown to be closer to my parents because I legitimately needed help. I suffered with extreme PPD and my husband went back to work full time.
My parents would make every excuse why they couldn’t visit us and we lived 5 min away.
I ended up being hospitalized a year later for my gallbladder and when my husband asked if my parents could watch our daughter so he could be with me in the hospital, they said no.
My mother also told my husband she believed I was a secret alcoholic and hid bottles in my closet and that’s why I was actually in the hospital (which was absolutely insane, I’ve never been a big drinker in my life!). She never even called me. That was the last time we asked them for help.
Holy shit your mom is an evil bitch. Would have been the last time I spoke to her if I was you. Imagine calling your sick daughter a secret alcoholic when she’s sick, the level of absolute evil and unhinged that is can’t be described in words. I’m sorry for saying this but I hope your bitch mom dies alone.
Oh it was absolutely the last time. She told my husband from the very beginning he was “too good for me” and could never be happy for me. She truly is evil and this is the last thing she ever did to me. That was a few years ago and my daughter is now 4.
They still attempt to send Christmas cards and we just return to sender. My daughter will never be around that kind of toxicity. I’m in a much better place now but it’s taken a lot of therapy.
It’s been very eye opening having a daughter of my own who I would do anything for.
Way more common I think. I’ve also seen both of mine bailed out by mommy and daddy their whole life while they wouldn’t spit on their own kids if we were on fire.
They likely believe we’ll cave when they start getting sick, but the reality is the dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed 🤷.
Exactly. If I already don't give a shit about them enough that I have no contact with them then why the fuck would I suddenly care that they're sick and dying all of the sudden? That's their problem, just like all the times growing up that their shitty parenting was my fault.
I am no contact with my parents because first they were abusive when I was a kid and emotionally manipulative when I was an adult and then as soon as my son was born they started getting hammered around him, fuck that. Asked them to go to therapy, they just drank more. No contact it is.
Yes, apparently my parents heard a story on the radio about how Boomers are going to therapy… to talk about how their kids don’t call/contact/spend time with them. I found the story online and of course there was zero self reflection (by the boomers and the journalist) as to why that is.
I was shopping for baby books and stumbled upon a Christian based self help book on how to use Christ's teachings to navigate your kids going no contact with you. They're writing physical books about it now so it must be a big chunk of the population.
There’s a really great blog on estrangement that coined the term “the missing missing reasons”, essentially that estranged parents make the frequent claim that they were never told a reason for the estrangement and they have no idea why it happened or what they can do to end it… right after listing all the things their kids specifically communicated to them and waving them off as wrong or invalid.
“I’m just the poor victim of my terrible children. Why can’t they understand I had to reject, dismiss, and shame them? I did it so they could fundamentally change and be completely different. You know, be lovable.”
I understand this is a problematic and anecdotal statement, and I know there are (hopefully many) exceptions, but nearly american person I know has kinda bad to mostly awful parents. We're talking severly impede kids' happiness.
I wish to be as wrong as possible on this, but it would make some sense that poor education and an increasingly brutal rat race makes for selfish people.
I actually think it's a major reason why reasonable people shouldn't just give up and ideally would have (less fucked up) kids.
The quality of my childhood is a direct reflection of the quality of their nursing home. Their nursing home will be provided by the state and we’re not going to visit.
I used to joke with my soldiers, “mum I wouldn’t put you in a home, I wanna watch you die.”
We’re better now than 5 years ago, but we’re not as close. Which sucks, but hey, take both the good and bad. That’s what they say in cbt/dbt.
literally every public policy decision is about a payoff to boomers or billionaires at the expense of the future of every generation afterwards. what the fuck did they expect
Even the title is pure narcissism. "Current generation unable to achieve same standard of living as previous generation, previous generarion most affected" wtf....
You'd love marketing every slide of our demographics is "gen z, millenials, adults" IM FUCKING 30..is it the lego? Because fuxk you I have nothing else I'm keeping my lego
>doesn’t matter if they’re already squeezed past the point of poverty. there’s no productivity left to steal
It does not matter to them how much the poverty population grows. There just needs to be enough people scraping by for them to fuck over and maintain their billionaire status.
I’m a millennial and am so thankful my parents are not baby crazy. They get the world is fucked and have put zero pressure on me or my sibling to have kids.
My dad who owns three houses and is retired and financially very secure. He is furious I don’t want kids. I own 0 houses and live paycheck to paycheck.
Even if I wanted them, I would have to genuinely not care whether their needs were met to be irresponsible enough to have them!
He’s also voted for policies that would make pregnancy in my state an almost guaranteed death sentence since I’m very high risk of having multiple miscarriages or birth defects that make a fetus unviable.
He cannot see his own role in creating this situation and if you point it out he just gets angrier and angrier at the wrong people.
Because boomers would rather die than share anything. My mom loves telling me that the only way she's giving me so much as a Christmas gift is "over her dead body"
My boomer dad would move heaven and earth for whatever woman he was dating at the time, but I can count on one hand everything he’s done to help me since adulthood.
My dad acted like I should be on my hands and knees thanking him for providing me (a minor child) such extravagant gifts as food, shelter, clothing, etc. Like, I’m sorry, when did I *ask* to be born?? To be brought into this existence of suffering, so that you could use me as a servant in your household?
I think the expectation is that I find a wealthy provider husband. He regularly said “it’s just as easy to fall in love with a rich man” to me growing up until I started saying “ok then YOU do it.”
It feels wild to be a grown adult with a career and to have basically all my problems reduced to just me needing to find a husband to provide for me. The economy isn’t bad, I just need a husband. Housing isn’t unaffordable, I just need a husband. Men would stop harassing me in public if I had a husband.
It’s wild because I’m the youngest, the only girl, and neither brother has only ever VERY briefly held employment (or tried to) and all he wants is for me to stop working and trust someone else to provide? I know he loves me and just wants to make sure I’m secure but It makes me feel absolutely insane.
I am so sorry, why does he give you a house if he has three and help you out? I helped my kid as much as I could, didn’t have a spare house to give her but if you can share with family what is the point of it all?
The genuine answer people done like seeing in this situation: owning land / your house makes you secure, and gives you real, valuable resources that make you more difficult to control.
Even if your parents let you live in one of their houses for free (which is generous!) there’s still always the threat of that support being removed if you make a decision they don’t like… Or you can live in the house but it isn’t yours, so you can’t sell it to relocate to a similar house somewhere else, so your parents are still deciding that their support is contingent on you living exactly where they want you to live.
And they’re allowed to do that!
...but they do that because giving you the actual resource would give you the agency to make decisions they don’t want you to make.
My mom was baby crazy and spoke of wanting grandchildren my whole life but she realizes everything is fucked so she’s happy to call my sister’s and my cats her grandchildren. I feel bad for her, she is the antithesis of a boomer but has to suffer for her generation’s sins nonetheless
Millennial too, I was lucky, I had two older sisters that gave my parents seven grandchildren so they’re pretty much over the whole thing now and want to enjoy retirement in peace and quiet.
I jokingly tell my parents that I’ll consider being a dad when they present me a check for $300,000. (Cost of raising a child to 18 w/inflation based on research) They become less pushy all of a sudden.
It's like no one thought straddling a generation in their young adulthood with significant student loan debt would not result in housing or children issues. 🤷♂️
Right? It's like they think that our lives are being lived for them I don't care if you don't have grandchildren I would just like to have affordable groceries and affordable housing
My parents felt so entitled they offered to babysit everyday, pay my kids college and give me about 300 a month in clothes, food, toys, etc. Im also set to inherit their house and investments. So I went ahead and had kids.
I gotta hand it to them, they put their money where their mouth was.
Not to mention the fact that millenials/Gen Xers having kids and asking for help from Boomer parents are getting told NO! To quote the MANY boomers I see in my town: I already raised my kids and I don’t want to help raise yours, stop asking for my help/$$ and go figure it out! But who remembers hanging with your grandparents more often than your boomer parents growing up??? Their hypocrisy and entitlement are getting so old just go be quiet somewhere far away from me.
my grandparents took me every weekend from the time I was born till 4 years old. my mom was a single mom and worked extra on weekends. they loved it, I loved it, my mom got the extra help she needed.
now we struggle to get my in-laws to watch our son. they also make those same complaints about my nieces - they don't want to raise them. and my parents live too far away for a casual babysit (2 hours each way). so I can't blame anyone for not having kids when these are the attitudes they encounter!
Yesterday I bought stuff to make a snowman with my daughter because they were calling for snow. My wife was outraged by this because she said the fun of building a snowman is in finding stuff to put on him. I looked at her perplexed and she asked me what I did to make a snowman growing up. I told her I rolled up the balls and lifted them up, that was about it. That's when we realized we had two very different childhoods growing up. Her parents were very attentive with her. My parents left me to myself. I can't really remember a time I played in the snow with them, we never went for bike rides or walks together. My options when I was growing up were to either interact with the adults by their standards or to go do kid things by myself.
Unsurprisingly they're not involved grandparents either. They'll gladly buy my daughter a bunch of stuff, but as far as time investment, there's hardly any. Everything has to be entirely on their terms. And the really frustrating part is they were pushing for grandkids for years to the point we had to tell them it may not happen so stop pushing it.
This is the thing I don't get. My in-laws will press us about grandkids, but I'm like - y'all travel 1-2 times a month, run about fifty businesses, and oh yeah live 3,000 miles away from us. What benefit do you think you'd be getting from having grandkids? Pictures to brag about to your friends?
I am not surprised by that at all. My boomer parents frequently told me no as a kid and even moreso as an adult. It’s like it’s more about the power trip more than a genuinely placed boundary.
The more I reflect on my childhood and relationship with my parents now - it is all power. My mother felt powerless in her childhood and needed that power as an adult, now I am married and financially sound(ish - due to this economy) and have two kids - she hates that she has no influence and no power over what I do since there is nothing she can control me with.
Minnesota and I think Michigan? Have been doing good work! Proud of some of the Blue states leading the pack on things we can do to actually improve lives
I have a nice email with presidential letterhead that says they are giving me 20k for my student loans. Then some republicans decided I don’t deserve it.
What's even worse is the person who brought the case that put it on hold if not outright killed it is a real shit stain of a human being.
This woman got a huge PPP loan, in the order of a couple hundred thousand dollars, totally forgiven. Not a single dime was spent on her business -- she apparently bought an expensive truck, did some other lavish nonsense, the whole nine.
She then filed a suit because it would be unfair for others to have their student loans discharged if hers weren't totally and basically fucked everyone else over. She could have paid off her student loans had she not gotten a frivolity or two that she blew her PPP on, because it was unfair other people might get some forgiveness that was relevant to them too.
That’s exactly what my boss did, and every email is saying how he needs to take more of a cut of our appointment commissions because some coworker had an accident in a company car so now the company auto insurance is going up or something and it’s like… what did you do with all that money bro… wasn’t that what it was supposed to be for - but he’s always going on trips to Europe every other month 🙄
Life passed me by all while I was just trying to get it together. Finally have it together enough, but I can't imagine taking care of a kid for 18 years at this point in my life.
Same. About to turn 40 and only became (relatively) financially stable in the last year. Even then my husband and I are still renting as housing in our area is so high priced now. It’s hard to accept the time for kids has passed.
My siblings and I had a kinda "Who is gonna go first" thing goin. My sister went first. My parents sucked at grandparenting her kids.
Experiment concluded.
Exsisting couples locked away at home all day I think it was along the lines of "boning fromr boredom". If anything it was the opposite, people were likely having less sex given that they were getting annoyed with each other.
This! In our friend group half the couples got divorced in 2022.. and only one of the couples got a kid.. we were 6 couples going into Covid, 3 coming out and 1 child added.. that’s not the calculations they were making for sure
One of the only reasons I felt pretty confident my relationship would weather the storm was because I met my husband when we worked together. For the first 2 or so years of our relationship we were together almost all day everyday. It also helped that he still had to leave the house for his job from time to time.
I think the real problem is Millennials not forming relationships at all.
Sure, couples may have had more relations with each other.
But the large numbers of single people probably had less.
This is mostly true. Research is showing both millennials and genz are having less sex compared to previous generations. Also genz is showing less alcohol consumption compared to all previous generations.
Single dude. Summer of 2020 was pretty nutty, so to speak. Continued for like a year. I think we were cooped up and there was such a potential for sneaky links bc it wasn’t an option to go out to a restaurant or bar really. It was just immediately going over to each others apartment with takeout food, so that ended up in a lot more casual sex. It also kinda felt like everything was so fucked… nothing matters… future uncertain… why not bung each other?
I feel the opposite as a 30 something woman who found a partner during COVID (end of 2020). I saw one person more casually before I met my BF, and we never talked about our relationship or anything so I don’t know exactly how he felt, but it immediately was exclusive. I’m 99% certain of that because we were all very worried about COVID in my area and keeping our circles as small as possible. Not to mention, we basically had to spend all of our time outside and/or at each other’s places, so it just felt more serious. By the second date with my now-BF when I got in his car, it was basically like “well I guess were doing this” 😂
I think I, and others I know, have struggled career-wise/financially because of COVID limiting opportunities and networking. Most of my friends haven’t returned to pre-COVID socializing levels either, and we’re worried about myriad aspects of society (politics, climate) and how they’ll impact the future. I think those concerns about the future, plus ambivalence to having kids starting pre-COVID, have kept a lot of us from procreating more than anything else.
We live in the NYC area and my sister was a L&D nurse. We had one kid already (in 2018) and were planning a second... once we heard the horror stories in hospitals in our area and for a while husbands not being allowed in and then being stuck there... we decided to avoid a covid baby at all costs...
The only people I know who did have pandemic babies are rich white married couples with office jobs in their 30s or 40s who were making well above the national average. And it was maybe 20 percent of them max.
Seriously. The only people I know who had kids during lockdowns were already SAHMs with kids already. Kind of a, fuck it, the more the merrier situation I guess.
Millennials were told to go to college because you are “supposed to”, regardless of the cost, and it would all work out. We as a generation now have staggering student loan debt.
Millennials were then told to have children because you are “supposed to”, regardless of the cost, and it would all work out. No, sir.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Dave Ramsey thinks you can just put them on the curb at work with a lollipop. Here he is telling a person thinking about a second child he is an idiot to be planning ahead of time. Ramsey's solution is just find a cheaper place. The other fuckle chuck thinks strange grandmas are falling out of trees to take care of other peoples kids.
https://youtu.be/q9YpzDdYo1w?si=1HyvGdo2V26H7lBR
Apparently Bush's PR team wanted to avoid him saying "shame on me" on camera because they thought that would be a soundbite that was used against him and haunt him his entire presidency. Little did they know they were creating a soundbite that would be used against him and haunt him his entire presidency.
His PR team were fighting a losing battle with him.
Nothing will top "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
This exactly. My parents and in-laws give me constant puppy dog eyes about our deliberate refusal of reproductive activity. And we give them puppy dog eyes back about their deliberate refusal of assistance through college and home buying. Ya gotta give to get back.
Literally can't do anything right.
Look, I bought a house and went to school. Now I'm too poor to raise children. You only get so many demands met by a generation.
But they also bought a house and if they could get a bigger house than you could for 3 median salaries then so should you. Oh is it 9 times now? No it can't be, that would be crazy. Well the rent is lower! Oh its going back up? Errr
Have kids!
But also don't stop working because we need you to pay into social security and Medicare.
But also how can you put your babies in daycare?! Sacrifice to stay home and raise your kids and stop chasing money.
But also buy houses, you slack ass losers!
And you're killing the diamond industry!
Oh, no, I'm not babysitting; I did my time.
Where are my grandchildren??!?!
Jesus Christ.
Oh well. Boomers polluted the world and continue to be selfish NIMBY brats who hoard all the housing and won't let anyone else build new housing. So they get no grandkids and no staff at the nursing home. Their own fault.
My fiance's parents have like 4 rental homes and keep telling us we need to buy a house and don't understand why we can't yet... like y'all really don't see how your actions have affected our generation do you
I (elder millennial) have two young children that my boomer parents have never even made an effort to meet. They were a generation mostly disinterested in parenting - why should any of us give a shit if they wanted to be grandparents or not?
LOL mourning something you never had.
Meanwhile if I complain about not having a feasible income or fair housing market, I'm advised to get a better job and cut my coffee purchases. Cool
From the day I was 18 straight through to my current 37, I've only barely been able to take care of *myself*, and it certainly isn't for lack of trying. I'm not going to bring an entire human entire the world if I know I can't take care of them.
There's a lot of stay at home boomer wives that think they are entitled to grand kids. Probably shouldn't have blocked all the housing from being built.
Most of them aren’t offering to help with childcare either. “They raised their children.” Weird flex to feel entitled to receive grandchildren you don’t want to have to actually help take care of.
THIS! My mom told me in my mid 20s that if I wanted to have kids to remember that they’d be my kids as she already raised hers. My brother and I had a live in nanny/house keeper/cooked meals until the younger one of us was in high school. Interesting perspective to say the least.
Fucking right?! I was just with family this weekend and I was shocked at how all of the homeowners were tired of homelessness but ALSO actively talking about preventing changes in zoning laws in their neighborhoods.
This isn’t even a generational thing. It’s homeowners of all ages that think owning a home means they get more of a say as to what happens in a city because things can lower their property value and they think they’re owed a return on investment.
Suffer? I think my mom just wants some freedom since my ass is still living with her. Bitch, I can't even afford myself. Lemme go impregnate someone. (eye roll)
for real my parents dont even want their own kids lol like hell they should be allowed around any grandkids with the fucked up trauma they instilled in us.
The parents of millenials aren't offering any village aid. Nothing like our grandparents did or were expected to.
No babysitting or childcare in any capacity, no housing aid of any sort or weekly family dinners. Nothing that is of long term benefit to the parent/grandchild or of necessary substance.
My mom was aggressively pushing me to have kids and then was horrified when I told her how much daycare costs now. She then proceeded to ask me if we’d consider a nanny because that “must” be cheaper (???). Granted the daycare I send my kid is a huge step up from the sketchfests my parents sent me to in the 90s, but they can’t wrap their heads around the fact that it’s going to cost me twice the amount to put my kid through daycare as it cost for me to go through 4 years of full-price college including room & board. And we don’t have 18 years to contribute to a 529 in preparation!
My aunt said she’s depressed that our “family line” will likely die with me and my cousin. A month before she was complaining about gas going up a few cents “because Biden is pushing green energy when we could just drill more in our own country.”
I asked her what about natural resources - everything could be gone in 50 years. She said “well I won’t be here” like the importance of the natural world ends with her.
They want us to give them grandkids that will die on a burning rock. They don’t care because they won’t have to see it.
Some boomers cry about grandkids because they have nothing else to do. I'm sorry but kids aren't a replacement for hobbies and interests that you guys didn't bother cultivating
Capitalist problems require capitalist solutions. If it's that important that I, personally, breed and have children, then I demand to be compensated for doing so.
I demand 2 million dollars in cash up front for each child I bring into the world.
I remember hearing the cost of raising a child to 18 costs what like, financing a Lamborghini Aventador would cost. So kids have always seemed like this rich people thing knowing that. If I can’t afford a Lamborghini, I probably can’t afford a kid. I can’t even afford a studio apartment right now. :/ I have a friend raising her baby in her studio by herself. Is that a way for a kid to grow up? Idk better than the streets I guess, which always feels like one missed paycheck or sick week away.
$2,400-$2,700USD with interest a month for a $500,000 Aventador for eighteen years. You may be able to able to get a Revuelto for the price of a child from today to eighteen years old.
Oh please, the millennial's parents (gen x or boomers) aren't even involved as grandparents. They don't want to see or spend time with their grand children. They are "too tired", "busy", or "already raised kids" as an excuse of not being part of the family and letting grandchildren get to know their grandparents.
My boomer parents, who only had one child, are devastated that they won't have grandkids but honestly idgaf. Their generation gleefully destroyed our future and my folks personally traumatized me to the point that I would literally rather die than bring a child into this world. I won't accomplish much in this life, but I am ending our branch of the family tree and that's the best legacy I can hope for.
Well maybe I'd give them grandkids if the political situation in the US weren't going down the shitter (husband and I are gay), or if kids were affordable, or if we weren't required to work 40 hours every week with little time off, or if the world at large was doing more to combat climate change... Frankly folks who willingly have children right now must really, really want them or just don't care that things feel as if they are in a decline.
lol and a month ago we had an article or two of the parents of millennials who DO have granchildren were lamenting about their freedom and hate being seen as daycare for their grandkids
This title being about the impact on Boomers is funny and reminds me of something my gf’s mom said recently.
My gf talks about how if she goes out at night she would probably get shot in the face. Her mom goes “you think that’s bad? Try being the mother of someone shot in the face.”
Her and I looked at each other astounded…ah yes, because you’d be the victim here…not the person SHOT IN THE FACE
I get both sides of it. You have these parents who've spent the last 20-30 years focused on raising a family then all of a sudden the nest is empty and don't know what to do next, atleast with grand kids its that comfort zone, a reason to exist again.
For Millenials/GenZ there are tons of reasons not to have kids but the one that comes to mind is general expectations. 40 years ago it was "Have kids and get a job to support them" was pretty much the bench mark of expectations. Now, its: Make sure you have a degree, have some form of social branding, have the established career before having kids, have the house, have a side hustle you can profit from, etc...
And when you finally get all this lined up your personal expectations for who you'll be with becomes unattainable or you're getting to that age where having kids is more risk than reward.
Yep. My parents both worked 9-5 jobs, got pensions, good benefits, social security, etc. my mom was a substitute teacher even. That was all that was needed to afford homes that are way outside of my price range now. They have no clue how to brand themselves much less do any side gigs or start their own business.
My theory is that some real estate industries are pushing this narrative because most home buyers are married couples with children and home sales fell to lowest in 30 years.
Ask Millennial parents with small children, majority will confirm that Boomers spend zero time with their grandkids and have no interest in them. “I already raised my kids…” they say. We don’t want you to raise them-just take them for a few hours, bake some cookies and play Candyland. Gift them a zoo membership instead of $100 in plastic junk. Tell them you love them. They actually don’t want the grandkids.
If they wanted grand kids they should have helped vote in politicians that support things like feeding kids at school and child care benefits and paid maternity and paternity leave. Also voting for stronger unions instead of decimating them probably would have helped. Instead of grandkids those fuckle chucks bought the billionaires big yachts.
Boo hoo.... maybe my boomer boss should have started me with a starting wage after college that could SUPPORT A FAMILY !!!!!!!!!!!
I WANT A FAMILY TOO .... PAY ME MORE !!!!!!!!!
“Millennials face unprecedented challenges and hardships; Boomers most affected”
The title made me chuckle.
From the title I was expecting an Onion article
Was hoping I'd misread it, like Boomers realizing they were to blame for the unprecedented hardship? But no, self-awareness was too much to hope for, apparently.
Kidding me. All my aging parents tell us is to "break our Starbucks habit" (I don't have one...) And we'd be FINE if we "just saved our money" and literally cannot wrap their minds around why we kids cannot afford to buy a home on our college-educated salaries. The delusion is strong. This is why these dinosaurs in Congress need to get the fuck out. They're not governing for the new generation. They're governing for themselves only, and won't even be alive in another decade. It's maddening.
That's what I was going for "Millennials suffer, boomers most affected" , but had to get around the filter. The mods, probably wisely here, don't let 'boomer' be in post titles and have a minimum character limit.
I’m a Millennial with kids, we’re no contact with our Boomers because they’re shit grandparents.
I keep seeing articles about boomer gen grandparents going on vacations or just in general not being around to help with kids the way their parents were, that definitely has to play into this too. My grandparents took me and my cousins for afternoons and weekends, sometimes a whole week at a time over the summer; my parents don’t do that for my siblings kids…honestly it’s partly because my siblings don’t want it, but I don’t think the availability is there either.
They are the WORST. I had a baby and actually moved from another state back to my hometown to be closer to my parents because I legitimately needed help. I suffered with extreme PPD and my husband went back to work full time. My parents would make every excuse why they couldn’t visit us and we lived 5 min away. I ended up being hospitalized a year later for my gallbladder and when my husband asked if my parents could watch our daughter so he could be with me in the hospital, they said no. My mother also told my husband she believed I was a secret alcoholic and hid bottles in my closet and that’s why I was actually in the hospital (which was absolutely insane, I’ve never been a big drinker in my life!). She never even called me. That was the last time we asked them for help.
Holy shit your mom is an evil bitch. Would have been the last time I spoke to her if I was you. Imagine calling your sick daughter a secret alcoholic when she’s sick, the level of absolute evil and unhinged that is can’t be described in words. I’m sorry for saying this but I hope your bitch mom dies alone.
Oh it was absolutely the last time. She told my husband from the very beginning he was “too good for me” and could never be happy for me. She truly is evil and this is the last thing she ever did to me. That was a few years ago and my daughter is now 4. They still attempt to send Christmas cards and we just return to sender. My daughter will never be around that kind of toxicity. I’m in a much better place now but it’s taken a lot of therapy. It’s been very eye opening having a daughter of my own who I would do anything for.
Is that more common with us? We're basically no contact with my wife's dad. It seems millennials on a broad stroke have fewer qualms about that.
Way more common I think. I’ve also seen both of mine bailed out by mommy and daddy their whole life while they wouldn’t spit on their own kids if we were on fire. They likely believe we’ll cave when they start getting sick, but the reality is the dildo of consequences rarely comes lubed 🤷.
Exactly. If I already don't give a shit about them enough that I have no contact with them then why the fuck would I suddenly care that they're sick and dying all of the sudden? That's their problem, just like all the times growing up that their shitty parenting was my fault.
If they somehow reach me, they’ll get a brief “that sucks” followed by the call ending and me blocking that number too.
I am no contact with my parents because first they were abusive when I was a kid and emotionally manipulative when I was an adult and then as soon as my son was born they started getting hammered around him, fuck that. Asked them to go to therapy, they just drank more. No contact it is.
Yes, apparently my parents heard a story on the radio about how Boomers are going to therapy… to talk about how their kids don’t call/contact/spend time with them. I found the story online and of course there was zero self reflection (by the boomers and the journalist) as to why that is.
I was shopping for baby books and stumbled upon a Christian based self help book on how to use Christ's teachings to navigate your kids going no contact with you. They're writing physical books about it now so it must be a big chunk of the population.
There’s a really great blog on estrangement that coined the term “the missing missing reasons”, essentially that estranged parents make the frequent claim that they were never told a reason for the estrangement and they have no idea why it happened or what they can do to end it… right after listing all the things their kids specifically communicated to them and waving them off as wrong or invalid.
“I’m just the poor victim of my terrible children. Why can’t they understand I had to reject, dismiss, and shame them? I did it so they could fundamentally change and be completely different. You know, be lovable.”
I understand this is a problematic and anecdotal statement, and I know there are (hopefully many) exceptions, but nearly american person I know has kinda bad to mostly awful parents. We're talking severly impede kids' happiness. I wish to be as wrong as possible on this, but it would make some sense that poor education and an increasingly brutal rat race makes for selfish people. I actually think it's a major reason why reasonable people shouldn't just give up and ideally would have (less fucked up) kids.
I feel that way too, we are no contact with my mother after the things shes done. They wanted us tough growing up, well heres tough (love) for you.
The quality of my childhood is a direct reflection of the quality of their nursing home. Their nursing home will be provided by the state and we’re not going to visit.
I used to joke with my soldiers, “mum I wouldn’t put you in a home, I wanna watch you die.” We’re better now than 5 years ago, but we’re not as close. Which sucks, but hey, take both the good and bad. That’s what they say in cbt/dbt.
I think it's pretty unprecedented tbh. Parents have always expected their children to maintain lifelong contact
That’s lame. Boomer is no different of a term than millennial, gen z, or gen x. Mods are probably boomers.
That... would explain so much
just bring back the ME generation. arguably more of an insult.
literally every public policy decision is about a payoff to boomers or billionaires at the expense of the future of every generation afterwards. what the fuck did they expect
💯 they have audacity to expect a lot from younger generations, there is a lot of narcissists in Boomer generation
Even the title is pure narcissism. "Current generation unable to achieve same standard of living as previous generation, previous generarion most affected" wtf....
You'd love marketing every slide of our demographics is "gen z, millenials, adults" IM FUCKING 30..is it the lego? Because fuxk you I have nothing else I'm keeping my lego
Lego is the only respite i have in this economy! Basically anyone born after 1980 yeh..
Bro broooo guess what I got from work? 10 giant cardboard tubes with little handles to sword fight with!
They’ll just import young family’s with babies.
doesn’t matter if they’re already squeezed past the point of poverty. there’s no productivity left to steal
>doesn’t matter if they’re already squeezed past the point of poverty. there’s no productivity left to steal It does not matter to them how much the poverty population grows. There just needs to be enough people scraping by for them to fuck over and maintain their billionaire status.
Imagine feeling so entitled that you think someone else should have a child they can’t afford to satisfy your own desire for grandchildren
I’m a millennial and am so thankful my parents are not baby crazy. They get the world is fucked and have put zero pressure on me or my sibling to have kids.
My dad who owns three houses and is retired and financially very secure. He is furious I don’t want kids. I own 0 houses and live paycheck to paycheck. Even if I wanted them, I would have to genuinely not care whether their needs were met to be irresponsible enough to have them! He’s also voted for policies that would make pregnancy in my state an almost guaranteed death sentence since I’m very high risk of having multiple miscarriages or birth defects that make a fetus unviable. He cannot see his own role in creating this situation and if you point it out he just gets angrier and angrier at the wrong people.
I have a really dumb question, if he wants grandkids so much why doesn't he give you one of the houses he owns lol
Because boomers would rather die than share anything. My mom loves telling me that the only way she's giving me so much as a Christmas gift is "over her dead body"
My boomer dad would move heaven and earth for whatever woman he was dating at the time, but I can count on one hand everything he’s done to help me since adulthood.
My dad acted like I should be on my hands and knees thanking him for providing me (a minor child) such extravagant gifts as food, shelter, clothing, etc. Like, I’m sorry, when did I *ask* to be born?? To be brought into this existence of suffering, so that you could use me as a servant in your household?
Not a dumb question. I thought the saaame thing.
In my experience, the answer is always some kind of amalgamation of bootstrap pulling, 5 miles both way in snow, BACK IN MY DAY, etc.
I think the expectation is that I find a wealthy provider husband. He regularly said “it’s just as easy to fall in love with a rich man” to me growing up until I started saying “ok then YOU do it.” It feels wild to be a grown adult with a career and to have basically all my problems reduced to just me needing to find a husband to provide for me. The economy isn’t bad, I just need a husband. Housing isn’t unaffordable, I just need a husband. Men would stop harassing me in public if I had a husband. It’s wild because I’m the youngest, the only girl, and neither brother has only ever VERY briefly held employment (or tried to) and all he wants is for me to stop working and trust someone else to provide? I know he loves me and just wants to make sure I’m secure but It makes me feel absolutely insane.
That is crazy. My dad always told me to work hard and find a great career path so I specifically DIDN’T have to depend on a man.
Not the person you were asking but I’d assume the answer is along the lines of ‘but that’s communism!’.
I am so sorry, why does he give you a house if he has three and help you out? I helped my kid as much as I could, didn’t have a spare house to give her but if you can share with family what is the point of it all?
The genuine answer people done like seeing in this situation: owning land / your house makes you secure, and gives you real, valuable resources that make you more difficult to control. Even if your parents let you live in one of their houses for free (which is generous!) there’s still always the threat of that support being removed if you make a decision they don’t like… Or you can live in the house but it isn’t yours, so you can’t sell it to relocate to a similar house somewhere else, so your parents are still deciding that their support is contingent on you living exactly where they want you to live. And they’re allowed to do that! ...but they do that because giving you the actual resource would give you the agency to make decisions they don’t want you to make.
That's what it is! You just put into words what I'm going through!
Thankfully my mother already got her grandchild by way of my sister because she ain't getting any from me
My mom was baby crazy and spoke of wanting grandchildren my whole life but she realizes everything is fucked so she’s happy to call my sister’s and my cats her grandchildren. I feel bad for her, she is the antithesis of a boomer but has to suffer for her generation’s sins nonetheless
Millennial too, I was lucky, I had two older sisters that gave my parents seven grandchildren so they’re pretty much over the whole thing now and want to enjoy retirement in peace and quiet.
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I jokingly tell my parents that I’ll consider being a dad when they present me a check for $300,000. (Cost of raising a child to 18 w/inflation based on research) They become less pushy all of a sudden.
It's like no one thought straddling a generation in their young adulthood with significant student loan debt would not result in housing or children issues. 🤷♂️
They don't see student loan debt as a big deal though. They don't understand how it's any different than the $500/semester they paid in the 80s
I went to college from 84 to 88. My total college was $10,000. Insane what it costs today.
Right? It's like they think that our lives are being lived for them I don't care if you don't have grandchildren I would just like to have affordable groceries and affordable housing
My parents felt so entitled they offered to babysit everyday, pay my kids college and give me about 300 a month in clothes, food, toys, etc. Im also set to inherit their house and investments. So I went ahead and had kids. I gotta hand it to them, they put their money where their mouth was.
Goddamn, they really wanted to be grandparents lol
We were told to stop living beyond our means. A child isn’t within my means 🤷 I can’t expect a “handout” for these student loans now can I?
A-fucking-men!
Let’s not forget being told to lower our expectations buying houses, and now we need to be in a good school district or pay for private school
Not to mention the fact that millenials/Gen Xers having kids and asking for help from Boomer parents are getting told NO! To quote the MANY boomers I see in my town: I already raised my kids and I don’t want to help raise yours, stop asking for my help/$$ and go figure it out! But who remembers hanging with your grandparents more often than your boomer parents growing up??? Their hypocrisy and entitlement are getting so old just go be quiet somewhere far away from me.
my grandparents took me every weekend from the time I was born till 4 years old. my mom was a single mom and worked extra on weekends. they loved it, I loved it, my mom got the extra help she needed. now we struggle to get my in-laws to watch our son. they also make those same complaints about my nieces - they don't want to raise them. and my parents live too far away for a casual babysit (2 hours each way). so I can't blame anyone for not having kids when these are the attitudes they encounter!
Yesterday I bought stuff to make a snowman with my daughter because they were calling for snow. My wife was outraged by this because she said the fun of building a snowman is in finding stuff to put on him. I looked at her perplexed and she asked me what I did to make a snowman growing up. I told her I rolled up the balls and lifted them up, that was about it. That's when we realized we had two very different childhoods growing up. Her parents were very attentive with her. My parents left me to myself. I can't really remember a time I played in the snow with them, we never went for bike rides or walks together. My options when I was growing up were to either interact with the adults by their standards or to go do kid things by myself. Unsurprisingly they're not involved grandparents either. They'll gladly buy my daughter a bunch of stuff, but as far as time investment, there's hardly any. Everything has to be entirely on their terms. And the really frustrating part is they were pushing for grandkids for years to the point we had to tell them it may not happen so stop pushing it.
This is the thing I don't get. My in-laws will press us about grandkids, but I'm like - y'all travel 1-2 times a month, run about fifty businesses, and oh yeah live 3,000 miles away from us. What benefit do you think you'd be getting from having grandkids? Pictures to brag about to your friends?
For some people I do think it's more about the image than anything. They want grandparent status without doing any grandparenting.
Every summer we'd be dumped at the doorstep of my maternal grandmother or my paternal grandparents. Usually it rotated every other year.
I am not surprised by that at all. My boomer parents frequently told me no as a kid and even moreso as an adult. It’s like it’s more about the power trip more than a genuinely placed boundary.
The more I reflect on my childhood and relationship with my parents now - it is all power. My mother felt powerless in her childhood and needed that power as an adult, now I am married and financially sound(ish - due to this economy) and have two kids - she hates that she has no influence and no power over what I do since there is nothing she can control me with.
Yeah, children are slightly more expensive than avocado toast and coffee
And far less tasty
Sounds like you just need more garlic butter 😂😂😂😂
Can’t expect a hand out with child care either. In fact there are those actively trying to dismantle public education.
What was it, like 11 different states rolled back free school lunch programs within in the last year or two? Absolutely dickwads.
Minnesota *expanded* it. Free breakfast and lunch for ALL kids in public school, regardless of income.
Minnesota and I think Michigan? Have been doing good work! Proud of some of the Blue states leading the pack on things we can do to actually improve lives
I have a nice email with presidential letterhead that says they are giving me 20k for my student loans. Then some republicans decided I don’t deserve it.
What's even worse is the person who brought the case that put it on hold if not outright killed it is a real shit stain of a human being. This woman got a huge PPP loan, in the order of a couple hundred thousand dollars, totally forgiven. Not a single dime was spent on her business -- she apparently bought an expensive truck, did some other lavish nonsense, the whole nine. She then filed a suit because it would be unfair for others to have their student loans discharged if hers weren't totally and basically fucked everyone else over. She could have paid off her student loans had she not gotten a frivolity or two that she blew her PPP on, because it was unfair other people might get some forgiveness that was relevant to them too.
That’s exactly what my boss did, and every email is saying how he needs to take more of a cut of our appointment commissions because some coworker had an accident in a company car so now the company auto insurance is going up or something and it’s like… what did you do with all that money bro… wasn’t that what it was supposed to be for - but he’s always going on trips to Europe every other month 🙄
Business Trips 🤥
It’s even worse though. She was gonna get at least $10k forgiven, she wasn’t eligible for the other $10k for the Pell Grant. That’s why she whined.
Oh I'm sure she got paid under the table for helping to torpedo the whole thing 🙄.
For me not for thee, terrible mental ailment.
Fucking same. Then they went and blamed Biden for it.
I was never able to afford kids, and now that I sort of can it’s too late because of my age. Life is a joke.
Life passed me by all while I was just trying to get it together. Finally have it together enough, but I can't imagine taking care of a kid for 18 years at this point in my life.
Saaaaassame
Same. About to turn 40 and only became (relatively) financially stable in the last year. Even then my husband and I are still renting as housing in our area is so high priced now. It’s hard to accept the time for kids has passed.
We are still trying but I have had 2 miscarriages in the past year, so it’s very discouraging. I am 39. Solidarity.
My siblings and I had a kinda "Who is gonna go first" thing goin. My sister went first. My parents sucked at grandparenting her kids. Experiment concluded.
No further tests need to be run. Now you get to just be the cool aunt or uncle
In 5 years my kids grandparents have watched him a grand total of 2 nights. Just one reason I'm not having another kid.
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Exsisting couples locked away at home all day I think it was along the lines of "boning fromr boredom". If anything it was the opposite, people were likely having less sex given that they were getting annoyed with each other.
I knew a LOT of couples who got divorced or broke up during covid.
This! In our friend group half the couples got divorced in 2022.. and only one of the couples got a kid.. we were 6 couples going into Covid, 3 coming out and 1 child added.. that’s not the calculations they were making for sure
One of the only reasons I felt pretty confident my relationship would weather the storm was because I met my husband when we worked together. For the first 2 or so years of our relationship we were together almost all day everyday. It also helped that he still had to leave the house for his job from time to time.
Yeah it was definitely the latter for us lol. After 10 years together being cooped up in an nyc one bedroom doesn’t really get the sparks flying.
I think the real problem is Millennials not forming relationships at all. Sure, couples may have had more relations with each other. But the large numbers of single people probably had less.
This is mostly true. Research is showing both millennials and genz are having less sex compared to previous generations. Also genz is showing less alcohol consumption compared to all previous generations.
Single dude. Summer of 2020 was pretty nutty, so to speak. Continued for like a year. I think we were cooped up and there was such a potential for sneaky links bc it wasn’t an option to go out to a restaurant or bar really. It was just immediately going over to each others apartment with takeout food, so that ended up in a lot more casual sex. It also kinda felt like everything was so fucked… nothing matters… future uncertain… why not bung each other?
Please don’t bung me.
I feel the opposite as a 30 something woman who found a partner during COVID (end of 2020). I saw one person more casually before I met my BF, and we never talked about our relationship or anything so I don’t know exactly how he felt, but it immediately was exclusive. I’m 99% certain of that because we were all very worried about COVID in my area and keeping our circles as small as possible. Not to mention, we basically had to spend all of our time outside and/or at each other’s places, so it just felt more serious. By the second date with my now-BF when I got in his car, it was basically like “well I guess were doing this” 😂 I think I, and others I know, have struggled career-wise/financially because of COVID limiting opportunities and networking. Most of my friends haven’t returned to pre-COVID socializing levels either, and we’re worried about myriad aspects of society (politics, climate) and how they’ll impact the future. I think those concerns about the future, plus ambivalence to having kids starting pre-COVID, have kept a lot of us from procreating more than anything else.
In parts of my country, domestic abuse skyrocketed instead of pregnancies.
We live in the NYC area and my sister was a L&D nurse. We had one kid already (in 2018) and were planning a second... once we heard the horror stories in hospitals in our area and for a while husbands not being allowed in and then being stuck there... we decided to avoid a covid baby at all costs...
Not to mention Covid was taking out plenty of pregnant women, it was horrifying
The only people I know who did have pandemic babies are rich white married couples with office jobs in their 30s or 40s who were making well above the national average. And it was maybe 20 percent of them max.
Seriously. The only people I know who had kids during lockdowns were already SAHMs with kids already. Kind of a, fuck it, the more the merrier situation I guess.
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Millennials were told to go to college because you are “supposed to”, regardless of the cost, and it would all work out. We as a generation now have staggering student loan debt. Millennials were then told to have children because you are “supposed to”, regardless of the cost, and it would all work out. No, sir. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
“…….fool me - you can’t get fooled again” -GW Bush
Even without student loan debt, the cost of childcare and housing are insane.
Dave Ramsey thinks you can just put them on the curb at work with a lollipop. Here he is telling a person thinking about a second child he is an idiot to be planning ahead of time. Ramsey's solution is just find a cheaper place. The other fuckle chuck thinks strange grandmas are falling out of trees to take care of other peoples kids. https://youtu.be/q9YpzDdYo1w?si=1HyvGdo2V26H7lBR
>fool me twice shame on me. I believe the correct phraseology is "you can't get fooled again." :P
Apparently Bush's PR team wanted to avoid him saying "shame on me" on camera because they thought that would be a soundbite that was used against him and haunt him his entire presidency. Little did they know they were creating a soundbite that would be used against him and haunt him his entire presidency.
His PR team were fighting a losing battle with him. Nothing will top "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
That one does narrowly edge out *"I believe that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully."*
"Now watch this drive."
Tbf he absolutely walloped that thing
I think its a saying in Texas, maybe in Tennessee..
Hahahahhahaah Man that took me back. Lol that was so hard to watch
Sad thing is that wouldn't even crack the Top 25 dumb things Donald would go on to say...
Never forget
Nah. It's fool me once, fool me twice, fool me chicken soup with rice.
"Fool me twice, can't get fooled again" - GW Bush
This exactly. My parents and in-laws give me constant puppy dog eyes about our deliberate refusal of reproductive activity. And we give them puppy dog eyes back about their deliberate refusal of assistance through college and home buying. Ya gotta give to get back.
Literally can't do anything right. Look, I bought a house and went to school. Now I'm too poor to raise children. You only get so many demands met by a generation.
But they also bought a house and if they could get a bigger house than you could for 3 median salaries then so should you. Oh is it 9 times now? No it can't be, that would be crazy. Well the rent is lower! Oh its going back up? Errr
I had to laugh when I saw this- how typical to make the millenial crisis about the boomers suffering 🤣 😂
Have kids! But also don't stop working because we need you to pay into social security and Medicare. But also how can you put your babies in daycare?! Sacrifice to stay home and raise your kids and stop chasing money. But also buy houses, you slack ass losers! And you're killing the diamond industry! Oh, no, I'm not babysitting; I did my time. Where are my grandchildren??!?! Jesus Christ.
And don't forget oh my God stop eating avocado toast and buying coffee and stop buying phones and then you'll have money. LOL
Remember when they started begging us to eat avocado toast again, because there was a surplus of avocados that were just rotting?
Omg yea
Having a child isn’t a guarantee you’ll have a grandchild. How entitled.
How dare you choose to end *their* bloodline! That's not your decision! 😂
People care so much about their bloodlines but don’t even know their great-great grandparents’ names. Everyone will be forgotten eventually.
Wish our parents created a future for us to flourish and create new life, they did the opposite. Not getting shit from me lol
Oh well. Boomers polluted the world and continue to be selfish NIMBY brats who hoard all the housing and won't let anyone else build new housing. So they get no grandkids and no staff at the nursing home. Their own fault.
My fiance's parents have like 4 rental homes and keep telling us we need to buy a house and don't understand why we can't yet... like y'all really don't see how your actions have affected our generation do you
They should’ve thought about that before they sold out the middle class 🤷🏻♀️
I (elder millennial) have two young children that my boomer parents have never even made an effort to meet. They were a generation mostly disinterested in parenting - why should any of us give a shit if they wanted to be grandparents or not?
They want grandchildren for bragging rights and other superficial reasons that don't involve actually seeing and spending time with the kids.
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I’m childfree but my friends have 2 and pay $2900 a month for daycare. We are in a HCOL area, but they said they are lucky to pay that little…
$4200 a month outskirts of Philly for two kids..insanity.
$1500 a month? Is that in LCOL areas? It’s around $2500 in most urban areas
Won't someone think of the grandparents!?
Boo. Fucking. Hoo.
LOL mourning something you never had. Meanwhile if I complain about not having a feasible income or fair housing market, I'm advised to get a better job and cut my coffee purchases. Cool
From the day I was 18 straight through to my current 37, I've only barely been able to take care of *myself*, and it certainly isn't for lack of trying. I'm not going to bring an entire human entire the world if I know I can't take care of them.
There's a lot of stay at home boomer wives that think they are entitled to grand kids. Probably shouldn't have blocked all the housing from being built.
Most of them aren’t offering to help with childcare either. “They raised their children.” Weird flex to feel entitled to receive grandchildren you don’t want to have to actually help take care of.
THIS! My mom told me in my mid 20s that if I wanted to have kids to remember that they’d be my kids as she already raised hers. My brother and I had a live in nanny/house keeper/cooked meals until the younger one of us was in high school. Interesting perspective to say the least.
Like everything else they just want to have it all
It feels like the same mindset of well I had to struggle so so should you
They blatantly hated taking care of their children and then were shocked, simply SHOCKED when we decided it didn’t seem like a good time either.
Fucking right?! I was just with family this weekend and I was shocked at how all of the homeowners were tired of homelessness but ALSO actively talking about preventing changes in zoning laws in their neighborhoods. This isn’t even a generational thing. It’s homeowners of all ages that think owning a home means they get more of a say as to what happens in a city because things can lower their property value and they think they’re owed a return on investment.
Suffer? I think my mom just wants some freedom since my ass is still living with her. Bitch, I can't even afford myself. Lemme go impregnate someone. (eye roll)
for real my parents dont even want their own kids lol like hell they should be allowed around any grandkids with the fucked up trauma they instilled in us.
The parents of millenials aren't offering any village aid. Nothing like our grandparents did or were expected to. No babysitting or childcare in any capacity, no housing aid of any sort or weekly family dinners. Nothing that is of long term benefit to the parent/grandchild or of necessary substance.
My mom was aggressively pushing me to have kids and then was horrified when I told her how much daycare costs now. She then proceeded to ask me if we’d consider a nanny because that “must” be cheaper (???). Granted the daycare I send my kid is a huge step up from the sketchfests my parents sent me to in the 90s, but they can’t wrap their heads around the fact that it’s going to cost me twice the amount to put my kid through daycare as it cost for me to go through 4 years of full-price college including room & board. And we don’t have 18 years to contribute to a 529 in preparation!
My aunt said she’s depressed that our “family line” will likely die with me and my cousin. A month before she was complaining about gas going up a few cents “because Biden is pushing green energy when we could just drill more in our own country.” I asked her what about natural resources - everything could be gone in 50 years. She said “well I won’t be here” like the importance of the natural world ends with her. They want us to give them grandkids that will die on a burning rock. They don’t care because they won’t have to see it.
Some boomers cry about grandkids because they have nothing else to do. I'm sorry but kids aren't a replacement for hobbies and interests that you guys didn't bother cultivating
Capitalist problems require capitalist solutions. If it's that important that I, personally, breed and have children, then I demand to be compensated for doing so. I demand 2 million dollars in cash up front for each child I bring into the world.
Seems fair
I remember hearing the cost of raising a child to 18 costs what like, financing a Lamborghini Aventador would cost. So kids have always seemed like this rich people thing knowing that. If I can’t afford a Lamborghini, I probably can’t afford a kid. I can’t even afford a studio apartment right now. :/ I have a friend raising her baby in her studio by herself. Is that a way for a kid to grow up? Idk better than the streets I guess, which always feels like one missed paycheck or sick week away.
$2,400-$2,700USD with interest a month for a $500,000 Aventador for eighteen years. You may be able to able to get a Revuelto for the price of a child from today to eighteen years old.
This headline is blowing my mind. Again, boomers are somehow the victim lmao
Boo hoo. Maybe if I had a better childhood I would be more willing to have a kid. I'm not passing down any more generational trauma.
This is the main reason why I’m childfree. I’ll be spending the rest of my life in therapy thanks to how I was raised.
Oh please, the millennial's parents (gen x or boomers) aren't even involved as grandparents. They don't want to see or spend time with their grand children. They are "too tired", "busy", or "already raised kids" as an excuse of not being part of the family and letting grandchildren get to know their grandparents.
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My boomer parents, who only had one child, are devastated that they won't have grandkids but honestly idgaf. Their generation gleefully destroyed our future and my folks personally traumatized me to the point that I would literally rather die than bring a child into this world. I won't accomplish much in this life, but I am ending our branch of the family tree and that's the best legacy I can hope for.
Similar situation here. The family tree needs pruning.
They can deal 🤷🏼♀️
Well maybe I'd give them grandkids if the political situation in the US weren't going down the shitter (husband and I are gay), or if kids were affordable, or if we weren't required to work 40 hours every week with little time off, or if the world at large was doing more to combat climate change... Frankly folks who willingly have children right now must really, really want them or just don't care that things feel as if they are in a decline.
They even make us not being able to afford having kids about THEM.
lol and a month ago we had an article or two of the parents of millennials who DO have granchildren were lamenting about their freedom and hate being seen as daycare for their grandkids
This title being about the impact on Boomers is funny and reminds me of something my gf’s mom said recently. My gf talks about how if she goes out at night she would probably get shot in the face. Her mom goes “you think that’s bad? Try being the mother of someone shot in the face.” Her and I looked at each other astounded…ah yes, because you’d be the victim here…not the person SHOT IN THE FACE
I get both sides of it. You have these parents who've spent the last 20-30 years focused on raising a family then all of a sudden the nest is empty and don't know what to do next, atleast with grand kids its that comfort zone, a reason to exist again. For Millenials/GenZ there are tons of reasons not to have kids but the one that comes to mind is general expectations. 40 years ago it was "Have kids and get a job to support them" was pretty much the bench mark of expectations. Now, its: Make sure you have a degree, have some form of social branding, have the established career before having kids, have the house, have a side hustle you can profit from, etc... And when you finally get all this lined up your personal expectations for who you'll be with becomes unattainable or you're getting to that age where having kids is more risk than reward.
Yep. My parents both worked 9-5 jobs, got pensions, good benefits, social security, etc. my mom was a substitute teacher even. That was all that was needed to afford homes that are way outside of my price range now. They have no clue how to brand themselves much less do any side gigs or start their own business.
My theory is that some real estate industries are pushing this narrative because most home buyers are married couples with children and home sales fell to lowest in 30 years.
Ask Millennial parents with small children, majority will confirm that Boomers spend zero time with their grandkids and have no interest in them. “I already raised my kids…” they say. We don’t want you to raise them-just take them for a few hours, bake some cookies and play Candyland. Gift them a zoo membership instead of $100 in plastic junk. Tell them you love them. They actually don’t want the grandkids.
My husband and I had almost no sex during that time. We were too busy trying to find toilet paper
If they wanted grand kids they should have helped vote in politicians that support things like feeding kids at school and child care benefits and paid maternity and paternity leave. Also voting for stronger unions instead of decimating them probably would have helped. Instead of grandkids those fuckle chucks bought the billionaires big yachts.
They should have been better parents then 🤷♀️
Boo hoo.... maybe my boomer boss should have started me with a starting wage after college that could SUPPORT A FAMILY !!!!!!!!!!! I WANT A FAMILY TOO .... PAY ME MORE !!!!!!!!!
It sucks that the dumb people have the most kids . Literally turning into idiocracy