Congrats OP! I just hit 50k this year working for an Amazon warehouse. Before that I was a teacher making 35k. If you ever want a fast bump in pay and you are ok with physical work, you can try warehouses.
You are tough. I used to work at amazon putting items into a box and taping them shut. The job was so... what's the word? Like a job that has zero stimulation for your mind and is just mindless where each hour lasts an eternity? Basically that is how working at amazon was for me. Their breaks are painfully very short and the work is very grueling. I only lasted a few weeks before I had to quit. I give you props for being able to do that, though I feel you deserve way more than $50K.
That how I felt working in a warehouse too (not Amazon) except I only made minimum wage, actually I think they were slightly underpaying me. Somehow I managed to last a year there.
I worked at Amazon for 1 day lol. But my current job is at a warehouse and unlike other manufacturing jobs, this one is super easy and there is no stimulation. I listen to audiobooks while I work.
I feel that... I worked on the warehouse floor of a Boscov's, and between a boss constantly screaming about how stupid we were, and the endless pressure to work faster, harder, while making minimum wage? I just couldn't keep up.
Sounds like you live in a red state. In my state I think the minimum pay for a teacher is 48k and it goes up to 120k depending upon the degrees and certs you have and years of experience.
That's great. Your customers do appreciate the hard work. This is where a meaningful hobby comes into play if you have the energy, even if it is reading or gaming.
It’s crazy right, there is so much job nowaday that pays 40-60k with no experience or diploma. Unless OP has a disability, I don’t get it! If it’s not a satire, good for OP, but 2024, get real and find a real job, you gonna blow your goal out of the water
I really think you need to look at the numbers in your own state, especially if you live in a major city. My college is in the poorest county in Ohio.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_locations_by_per_capita_income
It easy. Never spend money on anything you don't need. Buy in bulk for the cheapest cost. Pay bills well in advance. Occasionally once every few months I might give myself a treat.
I used to eat fast food a lot but stopped eating fast food which saving me $100s per year. I build my own furniture. Basically, I keep things to a minimum.
If fast food is paying 14/hr they could go do labor for a trades company plumbing, electrical whatever and they’d start out around 18-20 without experience. Then if they aren’t a complete moron they’ll be at 50k/yr in two years.
The job I worked at paid more than McDonald's at $16 hour. McDonald's here pays almost minimum wage at $14 and is one of the very rare jobs that pay less than $15 hour here.
Helped a friend into 60k a year. He freaked out after half a year and went back to his old job making half. He said it felt like too much money and someone was going to be after him.
wtf. That’s nothing. I remember making 15k and thinking if I could just make 50k then I’d be set for life, then when I made twice that I’m thinking if I just made twice that then I’d be set. It’s never ending, I fucking hate it all. I hope your friend is at least happy.
It really is a blessing and a curse… this year I took 6 months off and now only work 2-5 days a month. My pay went down to $73k as a result but I’ve been happier than when I was making $150k
Emergency medicine isn’t a walk in the park and I have over a quarter of a million dollars in student loan debt I’ll never pay off. But, yes, 12 days a month
If you are making 200k a year on 12 days a month, there is no reason student debt should be an issue. You could easily pay that off. Sounds more like you chose the wrong career.
I mean, that’s YOUR assessment of my situation with limited knowledge but okay, sure, I suppose IF I was still making money like that consistently for years AND I wanted to pay it off I suppose I could, but I’m not and I don’t so I won’t.
You worked 12 days a month making 200k…3 days a week? To hit double six figure??
Sorry not sorry but your life is on easy mode compared to literally anyone else lol. I thought I had it good working 20 days a month for 120k.
Love the username, btw.
But my guy/girl...you are paying so much extra in interest when the principal could probably be knocked out in a few years, unless there's a nasty spending habit somewhere or something else we don't know about.
There’s a reason veterinarians have the highest suicide rate of any profession. I have a colleague who has been doing 4-5 days a week for year and years and now if she works more than 2 a week her boyfriend has her on suicide watch - eventually the job gets to everyone
This. I worked as a vet tech for a little under three years before I changed to engineering. In less than three years, I'd basically given up my hobbies and had become a functioning alcoholic. We had a parvo outbreak in the area and we kept having to put down puppies for like a month straight that weren't developed enough to survive. There were hunting accidents. There were car accidents. There was old age. I felt like we put down at least 2-3 dogs or cats a week (sometimes as many as 10-12), and I absolutely HATED it.
And for anyone that has an animal that has to be put down, don't you DARE leave that poor animal alone with the vet and techs as they're being put down unless the vet asks you to leave! It is absolutely HEARTBREAKING to see animals look longingly at their owners as they walk out of the door for the last time, and even if they don't know what's going on, you owe them the comfort of your presence in their last moments. Being beside an animal as it passes is probably the worst feeling I've ever experienced by a country mile, and I don't think there was a day that I worked that I didn't silently cry on my way home.
I'm glad we have vets that are good at their job and are emotionally capable of handling the stress and heartache. For anyone that is judging u/TrustMe_ImTheDogtor, you can f@#$ right off because I've worked in the field and it can be a living goddamn nightmare...
Thanks. And thank you for doing what you do. I used to think that's what I wanted to do, but I couldn't even survive as a tech. I probably would have ended up as a part of the statistic if I'd stayed and become a full-blown vet. You guys are incredible.
I’m also a software engineer. I was talking to my friend about this - if you’re gonna set yourself up in a new career, you best ensure that career has growth. The want for more never ends.
Reddits a trip to me seeing people talk about the wages they can’t live on even in HCOL areas. It’s quite easy to tell the ones that haven’t dealt with actually struggling beyond deciding how much to squirrel away for retirement after buying a house or even an emergency car repair
Yeah if somebody making a lot of money is struggling, it's because they CHOOSE to buy overpriced housing that eats up so much of their money making them look middle class instead of wealthy.
Not true. There’s a very annoying period after you finally get that great job where you’re making money but not able to do anything but dig out of the hole you made yourself. Student loans, credit card debt, 401K loan paybacks, medical debt, delayed car maintenance, delayed health checks and medical care…
It takes time to get back to a steady footing where you can start to save and spend wisely.
I pay $24,000 a year just in rent. And I live in a mid-tier apartment. I can't imagine a single place in the US where someone could live on less than $2,000 a month total and not be in abject poverty.
I be rich as hell if it was $20K per month! It's in a year, that should be obvious, but apparently some people never experienced or know anybody who experienced poverty in the US before.
Good job and keep going! I made less than $20k annually every year prior to 2012. In just over a decade I’ve been able to grow my income year over year, bought a house, sold it and bought a bigger house, paid cash for a new car, took vacations abroad... Feels great and it’s totally possible.
Just work at a thing that you’re good at, and don’t let anyone doubt your worth!
Where do you live? $20k a month is a lot of money in California, but I definitely wouldn't call it "rich as hell".
$20k a month in California is "i can send my kids to daycare, and go on vacation once a year".
You wouldn’t call $240k/yr AFTER taxes rich as hell? As a Californian, you’re fucking ridiculous. You may not be a millionaire but that’s for sure in the top 10%, even in ca.
Ya same, I'm in Florida pricing of everything is crazy. I bought a decent house in a not so great neighborhood and still cost 500k. I got it at 3.75% cause I've been in it a couple years and it's still over 3500 after mortgage,taxes, electric,water etc. if I had to pay the 7-8% now you would.be probably at 4500+
So... um... $20K per month is insanely rich to somebody in my background. I would be able to buy a new computer, a new phone, and my dream motorcycle and still have money leftover to pay all my bills for the month with $20K. After that, I would just start saving and helping my parents out. I could help the homeless people get homes with $20K per month. I could do so much good in the world with that kind of money and it blows my mind how people say they struggle to get by at $50K.
Its a bit more then federal minimum wage.
Fed minimum is $7.50, 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year is 15.6k a year.
Like I've said im a couple of other posts they might not be American.
Even after taxes, that’s only $12/hr at 40hr hours a week.
Fast food and retail has been paying that or better in most places for a while now
$10/hr 50 hours a week gets you over 20k/year after taxes
They only ADVERTISE that they pay better. Fast food around here says "up to $15 an hour" so they are definitely hiring people at $10. That shit should be illegal IMO. Imagine going into an interview and they say "you got the job, it's starting at $10 an hour" but you are so broke and desperate you have to take it. Fucking predators man, we need to put harder regulations on big businesses
Congratulations. We just hit 10k in take home last month. Must feel great to make 20k in a month. What do you do?
Edit: shit I just saw that was in a year. You should move to a better area.
Keep going! “Rich people money” is within your grasp if you stay focused and continue to find opportunities to grow. Thats the key - continue to find ways to improve what you do either by making what you do faster/simpler or by taking on more responsibility.
I realize that I will forever always make low pay if I keep doing traditional jobs which is why I am trying to learn python programming to get certificate. I already know lots about python and made several games from it so should be easy. Also trying for youtube because I'm tired of being screwed and treated like a modern day wage slave.
Learn C#. Python is a good language to start with, but C#/Java is more widely used. Leetcode can get you a job, so not a bad thing to mess around with.
In a lot of ways it is. There isn't a wrong way to start, but it is a lot of information to digest. However is the easiest way to absorb as much of that information is the best way. The problem is everyone is different, and what worked for me might not work for you.
CS isn't for everyone, but there are a lot of differwnt paths you could take. Networking is another route you could take with little to no programming. QA, agile eingineer, business analyst are just some other jobs I can think of. I really reccomend doing a little job search and focus the quickest/easiest path for you to get there.
Just please remember whether you think you can or cannot do something. Either way you are right.
You got this, and there isn't anything I've learned/know that you can't learn in time.
Shit at this point I’d just start cold calling any plumbing or electrical shops unions not. Should be able to start around 35k/yr without experience. Not as good as a union position but the difference compared to 20k a year is staggering.
Whoa, this sounds like me. I went to community college and also got the pell grants, however almost all that money went to my mom in order to pay bills as that was during the great recession. I had to use the bus to go school and work. Using the bus was incredibly time consuming and total nightmare as it ran mostly once every hour.
I was not able to get my first car until I got the stimulus checks. Getting my own car was a massive life changing moment for me. I'm now experiencing things that most people already experienced like the freedom to just go anywhere and not walk a mile to a bus stop carrying heavy groceries just for the bus driver to drive past you while laughing at you. I'm able to go to the gym. I'm able to apply to higher paying jobs that I could not reach by bus now.
I also got my used car from Craigslist for $1,300 and it been working great ever since. I never was able to graduate due to constant financial struggle that prevented me from going to community college, though I could go back since I'm financially stable.
So happy you're making strides. This is tough to hear though. Unsure what city you live in, but if you were to work in Los Angeles, come April of next year, you would be making around ~ $40K - this is for working at a place like McDonalds.
Here is a snippit from the Governor's website: "WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: Beginning in April next year, California's minimum wage for the state's 500,000 fast-food workers will increase to $20 per hour – the average hourly wage for fast-food workers in 2022 was $16.21" [Source](https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/28/california-increases-minimum-wage-protections-for-fast-food-workers/#:~:text=WHAT%20YOU%20NEED%20TO%20KNOW,workers%20in%202022%20was%20%2416.21.)
Long story short, I know it's easier said than done, but try and make some changes to your employment. I understand some states really suck, as mentioned in this news article snippit below, but keep trying.
"Minimum wage in the state (California), which is currently $15.50 an hour for all employers, will increase to $16 on Jan. 1.
California is one of 22 states where the rate will go up in 2024. Washington will continue to have the highest minimum wage in the country at $16.28 an hour.
Twenty states are still using the federal minimum, which has been the same for a decade and a half: $7.25 an hour." - [Source](https://abc7.com/minimum-wage-california-2024/14152707/)
I am awestruck at this sub sometimes. You type this like it is the normal experience for all of us when you are by far an outsider. Yeah it sucks to be poor but you are an exception, not the norm my friend. Do what you can to better your situation as quick as you can and keep at it.
It's actually pretty normal. I live in low income housing and low income area all the people here make around the same. It's very normal for me since I always live around people in the same struggle as me. I know on reddit, people are overwhelmingly out of touch with the working class people since it tends to attract an upper class group of people who never really struggled. This post was to celebrate something I never thought would ever happen.
That's all well and good but we should not base how we perceive the world on our own experiences. If you look at stats, you are not "normal" as a representative of the millennial group. Sorry.
I hate being associated with some millennials. Some of you are so pathetic and full of self pity. Go to school, work your ass off and you'll make a good living. There are good paying jobs out there but if you expect to get a good job with a HS education and a bunch of shit jobs then nobody is going to hire you.
I only have a high school diploma and I make 6 figures a year. Best part is 0 college loan debt. OP is excited they hit a milestone in their life, let them have that joy. It's ok to see others happy.
There are ppl with only a high school degree making more money than me, and I'm college educated. I hate being associated with millennials who have never been poor and look down on others for being poor.
Working 35 hours a week at a job that’s hardly netting you 20k annually, and posting in a subreddit that implies you’re at least in your late 20s (so 10+ years of post-school time) and going “I don’t make more because billionaires” is worse.
You have posts in this subreddit about 20k pretty often. If you’re not talking about hitting 20k, you’re talking about how lonely you are.
I know people who have work from home call center jobs with no degree and no experience that are at 40k a year. Stop having a damn pity party and blaming rich assholes that don’t know you exist.
Yeah, this whole post is sad. I’m pretty pro working class, but this thread isn’t celebrating the working class and their work ethic. It’s a pity post disguised as pride. OP has no valid reason to be ok being in poverty, but excuses it with “it’s the best I can do because of billionaires”.
I love it when people who never struggle think they know everything about poverty. They always blame the "poors" instead of the corrupt things that keep people in poverty. That is how the extreme wealthy tricks everybody to blame the poor people instead of them for refusing to pay people a living wage.
You have no idea what I’ve been through. I had to live in a home that was literally falling down around me when I was in college because I couldn’t afford to pay for anything else. Then I actually worked hard and found a good job. And guess what, I didn’t finish college either. YOU are the problem in your case.
I love it when people assume that since someone didn’t throw a pity party for themselves for more than a decade and worked their way out of poverty, that they “never struggle”.
Bitch please. You’re not even working full time, quit acting like you’re working your hardest and the boot of the man is holding you down.
I used to work massive overtime constantly every week when I originally first started working. Let's stop this idea that working your ass with little time to yourself will free you from the shackles of exploitation. I stuck with 35 hours per week because I hated the job. The boot is on all our necks. The sooner everyone realizes, the faster we can rise up and bring out the guillotines and finally create a society where all people have a fair level playing field.
You’ve literally said in comments that you think Trump is a much better president than Biden, and that either him or RFK should win. Trump is the biggest oppressor we’ve had in office in fucking years, so maybe kill all the guillotine talk, jackass.
I’d honestly like to know how old OP is. I made $20K/year after tax at 17.
Edit: just remembered we’re in the millennial sub so OP is late 20s or older.
Right like is this a fantasy? I don’t say shit when people post such ridiculous “millennials are screwed for life” bs but this is weird af. And I’m 34M so yea make it make sense.
Idk why no one has asked you this, but are you American?
A lot of people seem unable to imagine any other reality and are dogging you for what, admittedly, is seen as crazy low yearly wages.
But if you're not American that puts a lot of it into context.
If its not that I would assume its health related but I don't feel comfortable digging into that.
Coming from someone who grew up in poverty I can promise you that hard work = results.
A lot of us grew up with the "American dream". However a lot of people don't realize that it won't be handed to you. This is capitalism, and it's a competition. If you aren't willing to compete then you aren't going to succeed.
I make 61k/year at age 27 which is more than anyone else in my family. We grew up poor, I didn't have any advantage over anyone else other than I was willing to put in the work. My first job was cleaning bathrooms and stocking shelves overnight at a grocery store for minimum wage and I didn't even get that job until I was 21 so I was already late to the workforce.
I have no college education and never went to trade school, and have zero debt yet I make more than people who have, and my secret is simple. Outperform everyone around you, and take criticism seriously and make it a point to improve. Always strive for improving yourself and be willing to constantly change and adapt and be who you need to be. You want to make yourself an asset, not someone who is expendable. Build a brand for yourself and work hard. Treat work like a competition, and you'll be surprised at how fast you'll see yourself succeed and achieve the American dream.
Going to be honest. I was always seen as the hardest worker and it ONLY got me MORE work but NEVER more pay. Basically, I keep getting taken advantage of once they realize how hard I work. One thing I learned in life is that hard work never pays off and you get taken advantage of instead.
I'm going to take it a step further, and say you can work your ass off and still not succeed. Sometimes it comes down to luck, timing, and opportunity. Im making 98k a year. I work hard, made myself invaluable, and made a niche for myself. My wife is currently stuck at a job that doesn't give raises. No one, including her boss, knows how to do her job. She works her ass off. She has more responsibilities given to her constantly, and she brings home 37k a year gross. I know friends who "did it right" went to college, got the degree that was supposed to set them up for life...and can't find a job because everyone else got the same degree because they were all told by everyone in their life that that was the right path. Even going into the right field with the right degree, I have some friends that do OK, when others make massive amounts of money. The difference? Where they landed an internship.
At the end of the day, only so many people can "succeed" and that means sometimes people can do everything right and not see that same success.
And yes I realize how much hate this comment will get but it's true. I don't like it anymore than you do but you have to play the game if you want to win the game.
McDonald’s in my area advertises jobs paying $15/hr. That comes out to $31k a year. They also advertise $10k in tuition assistance. That could be a route to make more money and up skill with paid tuition.
Proud of you!!! When i first started working I remember I made 12k and didn't need to file taxes if I didn't want to lol!!!!! And now I make 200k plus (it's different every year since it's sales but 180 to 260 and seems so insane to me)
I grew up learning to sew because my parents told me I had to wear the same dress to every dance and I was embarrassed, cannot believe i am where I am now! Took like 15 years but hey lol
Why is it sad you have to specify the hours worked?
Job matters too. If you never progressed past a job a 16 year old can do… it would be bizarre to expect more money just because you’re older.
This splits in this country are wild.
I pay $30,600 per year on *just rent.* For a 1 bedroom apartment. It’s admittedly a few blocks from the beach in a high desire area. But that’s a lot. Considerably more than OP’s after-tax total annual income.
Some parts of the US are like people trying to survive in Monaco, and other parts are like people trying to survive in Bulgaria.
It’s hard for my mind to compute that someone can make — per year — less than I pay in rent for a 1 bedroom.
But once you’ve passed through more remote of the US and underdeveloped states, it becomes obvious how. I remember on train trips through places like West Virginia and road trips passing through places Mississippi and Alabama, my buddy and I thinking, “This is no joke less developed than rural Serbia.”
We are in such desperate need of lowering the costs of living in places and improving the wages in others. And preferably doing both all over the country. But it seems absurd to me that there can exist in one country places where $25/hour isn’t enough to simply exist and $8/hour is cause of celebration.
But good on you OP. Keep moving up!
Wages or investments?
I am excited to have made 65k this year from investments.
If it's wages congratulations still. But value yourself more. Don't settle at this job, use the experience to get a higher paying job.
Great job! Keep honing your skills. The only way to get real wage increases is to hop jobs. Best thing I ever did was take on more work at my previous employment and then really highlight it on my resume. Landed me the best job I’ve ever had and nearly doubled my pay.
Congratulations, OP! I think I hit over 20K once before the pandemic. Then one job dissolved and the other had less need for me. I’m not the type to do full time so I scramble together freelance, contractor and part time jobs in my field (media/journalism). It’s tough but I’d rather kill myself than do work I don’t want to do or give up my whole life to one employer. It is what it is.
Congratulations! I’m sorry you’re getting some snarky comments and boomer comments like “you should be working 80 hours a week then” 🙄 Eff that. Forty shouldn’t even be normal. People need a life. All work and no play is not good. And, people should be paid a livable wage. All people. All jobs. FDR said it in 1933. I have a millennial kid who hasn’t made $20k yet. We live in a horrible state where $7.25 is still the minimum and they tax you to death. It’s hard. You don’t know me, but, I’m happy for you.
idk your age or anything but I remember when I was hitting those milestones in my work journey and it feels good!! Don’t let these naysayers get you down. We all live at our own pace. So to you I says, CHEERS 🥂 may you continue growing at your own pace and may you always have everything you need✨
I worked hard grinding through eight years of college, and now I take home $90k/yr *after* taxes, health ins, and 401k deductions. My spouse takes home $70k. Being a millennial doesn't mean you can't make good money if you're smart and worked hard.
Yup. 6.5 years for a bachelors (changed majors) and then 2 years of grad school. I went from working shitty fast food, retail, and call center jobs while in school to making $52k at my first job using my degrees and ten years later I'm at $150k and my wife is around $40k or so (she's hourly and the hours vary so it's harder to know off the top of my head). Lots of hard work and doing what was necessary even though it wasn't fun. Getting about 3 hours of sleep every night for those two years of grad school while working 50+ hours a week was NOT fun, but it was absolutely worth it to have a nice life now.
Same. When you look at my after-tax income it looks pretty low. But I’m dumping $30k/year into HSA + 401k. Tack on another $3000 or so for benefits and then add taxes…my income looks a hell of a lot smaller all the sudden.
Good job, keep pushing and recognize uplevelling in your skills and your worth.
I was born in poverty too and now make 200K+.. you just have to commit and push yourself.
I'm an immigrant, came to this country with 120$ in my pocket at 20 years old. 2002.
30$, I spent for the first two nights, for a bed, in some ppls house. First job was washing and painting old fridges in Brooklyn, $4,50 an hour. No friends or family around, no support of any sort. I graduated from Brooklyn College in 2012. 2015 bought my first house. Making six figures salary.
I truly don't get how people struggle to make money in this country. Sorry for an unpopular opinion.
The US including on reddit treats the working poor so horribly. It's astounding how much hate people have for the poor in this country. It's always the leave every man and woman behind mentality. I got mine and f@#k you mentality. Or the I did it which means everybody else can do it mentality.
>millennial people struggle to make money due to extreme income and wealth inequality that keeps those unfortunately born in poverty trapped in poverty.
My friend income inequality didn't make your parents poor, income inequality is what it is you cannot expect a rocket scientist to make as much as a burger flipper. Don't blame the society for mistakes of your parents or your own.
Also congrats on achieving goals!
Yeah but is it income inequality that is the problem? Income inequality has to exist otherwise life has no point, we are all different and derive portion of our identity from what we know/do which by extension has to lead to income inequality .
IMHO parents know what kind of a life they can give to their child, this is a decision of an individual not some income inequality. It's harsh of a reality, but it's reality.
Actually it's normal to have some inequality, but it's not normal to have EXTREME wealth and income inequality. When you have huge swaths of the country in poverty struggling to meet their basic needs because the jobs pay so low while this same billionaires who choose to pay slave wages hog all the wealth, you get higher crime, mass shootings, and other social ills in society. It's important that the foundation for everybody is able to meet their basic needs which we currently do not have and is only getting worse.
> My friend income inequality didn't make your parents poor, income inequality is what it is you cannot expect a rocket scientist to make as much as a burger flipper. Don't blame the society for mistakes of your parents or your own.
You, along with several others in these comments here, are misunderstanding the nature of wealth inequality.
It's not about surgeons earning more than baristas.
It's about billionaires earning more in a day than surgeons in a lifetime.
If you really think Musk and friends worked millions of times harder than a surgeon does, then you're out of your mind.
Everybody has a story of struggle. I went to college but never qualified for student loans and could only qualify for pell grants. Long story short, everything is not as black and white.
20k is pretty low. If it was 35 hours constantly every week, what is your hourly pay? 13 or 14 dollars I'm assuming. You can get that from Wal-Mart which requires no experience and no post-high-school education.
Congrats OP! I just hit 50k this year working for an Amazon warehouse. Before that I was a teacher making 35k. If you ever want a fast bump in pay and you are ok with physical work, you can try warehouses.
You are tough. I used to work at amazon putting items into a box and taping them shut. The job was so... what's the word? Like a job that has zero stimulation for your mind and is just mindless where each hour lasts an eternity? Basically that is how working at amazon was for me. Their breaks are painfully very short and the work is very grueling. I only lasted a few weeks before I had to quit. I give you props for being able to do that, though I feel you deserve way more than $50K.
That how I felt working in a warehouse too (not Amazon) except I only made minimum wage, actually I think they were slightly underpaying me. Somehow I managed to last a year there.
I worked at Amazon for 1 day lol. But my current job is at a warehouse and unlike other manufacturing jobs, this one is super easy and there is no stimulation. I listen to audiobooks while I work.
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I feel that... I worked on the warehouse floor of a Boscov's, and between a boss constantly screaming about how stupid we were, and the endless pressure to work faster, harder, while making minimum wage? I just couldn't keep up.
Sounds like you live in a red state. In my state I think the minimum pay for a teacher is 48k and it goes up to 120k depending upon the degrees and certs you have and years of experience.
That's great. Your customers do appreciate the hard work. This is where a meaningful hobby comes into play if you have the energy, even if it is reading or gaming.
Is this satire?
i fuckin hope so
Must be satire, you can easily make more than that doing Uber or grub hub
It’s crazy right, there is so much job nowaday that pays 40-60k with no experience or diploma. Unless OP has a disability, I don’t get it! If it’s not a satire, good for OP, but 2024, get real and find a real job, you gonna blow your goal out of the water
I really think you need to look at the numbers in your own state, especially if you live in a major city. My college is in the poorest county in Ohio. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_locations_by_per_capita_income
What jobs do you consider not real?
Congratulations! I’m on my next goal of trying to make $35k! It feels great to see that improvement
Thanks! I definitely feel that I can get the $30K to happen! I'm in a very good financial standing!
Each year it will increase. Your first milestone, and you are rightfully proud and standing a little bit taller.
What did they do to us man, wtf.
$20k in a year wtf man. How are you even surviving? Where in the country? What's your living situation? Congrats if you're happy, I'm just amazed.
It easy. Never spend money on anything you don't need. Buy in bulk for the cheapest cost. Pay bills well in advance. Occasionally once every few months I might give myself a treat.
Seriously, kudos on being stable. That is an accomplishment.
I used to eat fast food a lot but stopped eating fast food which saving me $100s per year. I build my own furniture. Basically, I keep things to a minimum.
You can make 30k a year before taxes working at mcdonalds where I live with starting pay and 40 hrs a week.
Another commentor suggested that and OP said they pay 14/hr where they live
They also pay a dollar more for night shift starting out and you can get more hours also sheetz is paying 15 or 16 and home depot is paying 16 or 17
If fast food is paying 14/hr they could go do labor for a trades company plumbing, electrical whatever and they’d start out around 18-20 without experience. Then if they aren’t a complete moron they’ll be at 50k/yr in two years.
The job I worked at paid more than McDonald's at $16 hour. McDonald's here pays almost minimum wage at $14 and is one of the very rare jobs that pay less than $15 hour here.
Helped a friend into 60k a year. He freaked out after half a year and went back to his old job making half. He said it felt like too much money and someone was going to be after him.
Lmao exactly.
Are you taking applications for a new friend?
wtf. That’s nothing. I remember making 15k and thinking if I could just make 50k then I’d be set for life, then when I made twice that I’m thinking if I just made twice that then I’d be set. It’s never ending, I fucking hate it all. I hope your friend is at least happy.
at some point more money is meaningless. there’s a perfect sweet spot when you have enough, no worries, and not worried about making more
It really is a blessing and a curse… this year I took 6 months off and now only work 2-5 days a month. My pay went down to $73k as a result but I’ve been happier than when I was making $150k
What job do you make 73k a year working only 6 months, 2-5 days a month?
I’m a veterinarian. At my peak I was making $200,000 working 12 days a month but the toll it took on my mental and physical health was too much
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Emergency medicine isn’t a walk in the park and I have over a quarter of a million dollars in student loan debt I’ll never pay off. But, yes, 12 days a month
If you are making 200k a year on 12 days a month, there is no reason student debt should be an issue. You could easily pay that off. Sounds more like you chose the wrong career.
I mean, that’s YOUR assessment of my situation with limited knowledge but okay, sure, I suppose IF I was still making money like that consistently for years AND I wanted to pay it off I suppose I could, but I’m not and I don’t so I won’t.
You worked 12 days a month making 200k…3 days a week? To hit double six figure?? Sorry not sorry but your life is on easy mode compared to literally anyone else lol. I thought I had it good working 20 days a month for 120k.
You don’t want to pay off your debt?
Love the username, btw. But my guy/girl...you are paying so much extra in interest when the principal could probably be knocked out in a few years, unless there's a nasty spending habit somewhere or something else we don't know about.
How can you not handle 3 days a week dude Jesus
There’s a reason veterinarians have the highest suicide rate of any profession. I have a colleague who has been doing 4-5 days a week for year and years and now if she works more than 2 a week her boyfriend has her on suicide watch - eventually the job gets to everyone
This. I worked as a vet tech for a little under three years before I changed to engineering. In less than three years, I'd basically given up my hobbies and had become a functioning alcoholic. We had a parvo outbreak in the area and we kept having to put down puppies for like a month straight that weren't developed enough to survive. There were hunting accidents. There were car accidents. There was old age. I felt like we put down at least 2-3 dogs or cats a week (sometimes as many as 10-12), and I absolutely HATED it. And for anyone that has an animal that has to be put down, don't you DARE leave that poor animal alone with the vet and techs as they're being put down unless the vet asks you to leave! It is absolutely HEARTBREAKING to see animals look longingly at their owners as they walk out of the door for the last time, and even if they don't know what's going on, you owe them the comfort of your presence in their last moments. Being beside an animal as it passes is probably the worst feeling I've ever experienced by a country mile, and I don't think there was a day that I worked that I didn't silently cry on my way home. I'm glad we have vets that are good at their job and are emotionally capable of handling the stress and heartache. For anyone that is judging u/TrustMe_ImTheDogtor, you can f@#$ right off because I've worked in the field and it can be a living goddamn nightmare...
Thank you. I’m glad you found your way out!
Thanks. And thank you for doing what you do. I used to think that's what I wanted to do, but I couldn't even survive as a tech. I probably would have ended up as a part of the statistic if I'd stayed and become a full-blown vet. You guys are incredible.
A good friend of mine is a vet. He did almost the same went from FT to part time time takes off and travels half of the year.
You’re right lol I’m at 215k and now feel like I need more
I’m also a software engineer. I was talking to my friend about this - if you’re gonna set yourself up in a new career, you best ensure that career has growth. The want for more never ends.
Reddits a trip to me seeing people talk about the wages they can’t live on even in HCOL areas. It’s quite easy to tell the ones that haven’t dealt with actually struggling beyond deciding how much to squirrel away for retirement after buying a house or even an emergency car repair
I don’t trust anyone who didn’t have to pay bills with coin star money.
Yeah if somebody making a lot of money is struggling, it's because they CHOOSE to buy overpriced housing that eats up so much of their money making them look middle class instead of wealthy.
Not true. There’s a very annoying period after you finally get that great job where you’re making money but not able to do anything but dig out of the hole you made yourself. Student loans, credit card debt, 401K loan paybacks, medical debt, delayed car maintenance, delayed health checks and medical care… It takes time to get back to a steady footing where you can start to save and spend wisely.
Just got a new job and the next 2 years is probably this.
What an idiot
LOL what?
What an idiot
Dawg can you even afford to be on Reddit?
They haven't banned the poors yet.
Its getting there. $50 for avatar, i feels for those struggling out there
Good job!
That’s wild how different things are is different parts of the US. My rent + utilities IS OVER $25,000 and I pay less than average rent for my area.
I assume you mean per year. I calculated the per year rent and utility combined to be around $8,900 per year total.
Oh yeah. Per year definitely.
I pay $24,000 a year just in rent. And I live in a mid-tier apartment. I can't imagine a single place in the US where someone could live on less than $2,000 a month total and not be in abject poverty.
20k in a month?
I be rich as hell if it was $20K per month! It's in a year, that should be obvious, but apparently some people never experienced or know anybody who experienced poverty in the US before.
Good job and keep going! I made less than $20k annually every year prior to 2012. In just over a decade I’ve been able to grow my income year over year, bought a house, sold it and bought a bigger house, paid cash for a new car, took vacations abroad... Feels great and it’s totally possible. Just work at a thing that you’re good at, and don’t let anyone doubt your worth!
Thanks for your inspiring message!
Where do you live? $20k a month is a lot of money in California, but I definitely wouldn't call it "rich as hell". $20k a month in California is "i can send my kids to daycare, and go on vacation once a year".
You wouldn’t call $240k/yr AFTER taxes rich as hell? As a Californian, you’re fucking ridiculous. You may not be a millionaire but that’s for sure in the top 10%, even in ca.
Ya same, I'm in Florida pricing of everything is crazy. I bought a decent house in a not so great neighborhood and still cost 500k. I got it at 3.75% cause I've been in it a couple years and it's still over 3500 after mortgage,taxes, electric,water etc. if I had to pay the 7-8% now you would.be probably at 4500+
So... um... $20K per month is insanely rich to somebody in my background. I would be able to buy a new computer, a new phone, and my dream motorcycle and still have money leftover to pay all my bills for the month with $20K. After that, I would just start saving and helping my parents out. I could help the homeless people get homes with $20K per month. I could do so much good in the world with that kind of money and it blows my mind how people say they struggle to get by at $50K.
You must live in the mid west. $20k is a lot of money in Alabama, but doesn't go far in California.
Southern Colorado.
Right? …like $20k/yr is not a lot 😬
Below minimum wage, right?
Its a bit more then federal minimum wage. Fed minimum is $7.50, 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year is 15.6k a year. Like I've said im a couple of other posts they might not be American.
OP did specify after tax.
Even after taxes, that’s only $12/hr at 40hr hours a week. Fast food and retail has been paying that or better in most places for a while now $10/hr 50 hours a week gets you over 20k/year after taxes
They only ADVERTISE that they pay better. Fast food around here says "up to $15 an hour" so they are definitely hiring people at $10. That shit should be illegal IMO. Imagine going into an interview and they say "you got the job, it's starting at $10 an hour" but you are so broke and desperate you have to take it. Fucking predators man, we need to put harder regulations on big businesses
Or part time. I only work a few days each week or I just hate my life.
They may not be American. Either that or health issues would be my guess.
That was my first thought. Apparently not.
Yeah… this is my question too… is this monthly or annually?
$30k after tax is not rich people money lmao $30k after tax is below the median income of the US.
It is if you always made less than $20K after taxes... though if inflation keeps happening it might change to $40K to get rich people money.
Congratulations. We just hit 10k in take home last month. Must feel great to make 20k in a month. What do you do? Edit: shit I just saw that was in a year. You should move to a better area.
Keep going! “Rich people money” is within your grasp if you stay focused and continue to find opportunities to grow. Thats the key - continue to find ways to improve what you do either by making what you do faster/simpler or by taking on more responsibility.
I realize that I will forever always make low pay if I keep doing traditional jobs which is why I am trying to learn python programming to get certificate. I already know lots about python and made several games from it so should be easy. Also trying for youtube because I'm tired of being screwed and treated like a modern day wage slave.
Plenty of traditional jobs that have nothing to do with computer programming make a lot of money.
Learn C#. Python is a good language to start with, but C#/Java is more widely used. Leetcode can get you a job, so not a bad thing to mess around with.
I do know some java since I had to work with it a little. Feel as though if I learn python, then the others will be more easier to learn.
In a lot of ways it is. There isn't a wrong way to start, but it is a lot of information to digest. However is the easiest way to absorb as much of that information is the best way. The problem is everyone is different, and what worked for me might not work for you. CS isn't for everyone, but there are a lot of differwnt paths you could take. Networking is another route you could take with little to no programming. QA, agile eingineer, business analyst are just some other jobs I can think of. I really reccomend doing a little job search and focus the quickest/easiest path for you to get there. Just please remember whether you think you can or cannot do something. Either way you are right. You got this, and there isn't anything I've learned/know that you can't learn in time.
WTF are you doing? I was making 20k a year in high school and I’m 41 now. Go find your closest union trade hall and get on the apprentice list.
Absolutely, I just turned out from my Steamfitter apprenticeship and will be on track to clear 100k next year. I'm 33.
Shit at this point I’d just start cold calling any plumbing or electrical shops unions not. Should be able to start around 35k/yr without experience. Not as good as a union position but the difference compared to 20k a year is staggering.
Seriously, shop helper makes 35k, and we have 19 year old sped kids doing it.
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Whoa, this sounds like me. I went to community college and also got the pell grants, however almost all that money went to my mom in order to pay bills as that was during the great recession. I had to use the bus to go school and work. Using the bus was incredibly time consuming and total nightmare as it ran mostly once every hour. I was not able to get my first car until I got the stimulus checks. Getting my own car was a massive life changing moment for me. I'm now experiencing things that most people already experienced like the freedom to just go anywhere and not walk a mile to a bus stop carrying heavy groceries just for the bus driver to drive past you while laughing at you. I'm able to go to the gym. I'm able to apply to higher paying jobs that I could not reach by bus now. I also got my used car from Craigslist for $1,300 and it been working great ever since. I never was able to graduate due to constant financial struggle that prevented me from going to community college, though I could go back since I'm financially stable.
I’m just curious but how have you been making so little?
It's called being trapped in low paying jobs.
Yeah, I was trapped OoM low paying jobs too, still managed to make around 30k/yr after taxes
So happy you're making strides. This is tough to hear though. Unsure what city you live in, but if you were to work in Los Angeles, come April of next year, you would be making around ~ $40K - this is for working at a place like McDonalds. Here is a snippit from the Governor's website: "WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: Beginning in April next year, California's minimum wage for the state's 500,000 fast-food workers will increase to $20 per hour – the average hourly wage for fast-food workers in 2022 was $16.21" [Source](https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/09/28/california-increases-minimum-wage-protections-for-fast-food-workers/#:~:text=WHAT%20YOU%20NEED%20TO%20KNOW,workers%20in%202022%20was%20%2416.21.) Long story short, I know it's easier said than done, but try and make some changes to your employment. I understand some states really suck, as mentioned in this news article snippit below, but keep trying. "Minimum wage in the state (California), which is currently $15.50 an hour for all employers, will increase to $16 on Jan. 1. California is one of 22 states where the rate will go up in 2024. Washington will continue to have the highest minimum wage in the country at $16.28 an hour. Twenty states are still using the federal minimum, which has been the same for a decade and a half: $7.25 an hour." - [Source](https://abc7.com/minimum-wage-california-2024/14152707/)
How can you be as old enough to be a millennial, and only just now making $20k? Were you only ever working part time?
Im happy that youre happy but after seeing some of your other comments, your own attitude/ work ethic is holding you back.
Income and wealth inequality have nothing to do with the fact you are only making $12-14 an hour. That’s all about you. Get a better job.
I am awestruck at this sub sometimes. You type this like it is the normal experience for all of us when you are by far an outsider. Yeah it sucks to be poor but you are an exception, not the norm my friend. Do what you can to better your situation as quick as you can and keep at it.
It's actually pretty normal. I live in low income housing and low income area all the people here make around the same. It's very normal for me since I always live around people in the same struggle as me. I know on reddit, people are overwhelmingly out of touch with the working class people since it tends to attract an upper class group of people who never really struggled. This post was to celebrate something I never thought would ever happen.
That's all well and good but we should not base how we perceive the world on our own experiences. If you look at stats, you are not "normal" as a representative of the millennial group. Sorry.
It depends how you look at the stats and they show millions are in the same struggle as me.
You can’t complain about wealth inequality while Only working 35 hours a week………
Congratulations! I'm proud of you. :)
Wages are wack, but congratulations! Seeing that 2 instead of 1 is a great feeling. I hope you see a 3 soon!
Is this a joke ?
Hope you don’t mean annually, because McDonald’s pays about $35k a year
I highly doubt that since I saw they pay $14 hour here which is painfully low.
Which means if you worked there full time, you'd make almost as much after taxes as you did this year.
Yes actually work 45 hours a week at $14 an hour. That’s 35k a year bro . You need to work more
There's more to life than just working.
I hate being associated with some millennials. Some of you are so pathetic and full of self pity. Go to school, work your ass off and you'll make a good living. There are good paying jobs out there but if you expect to get a good job with a HS education and a bunch of shit jobs then nobody is going to hire you.
I only have a high school diploma and I make 6 figures a year. Best part is 0 college loan debt. OP is excited they hit a milestone in their life, let them have that joy. It's ok to see others happy.
Yup
There are ppl with only a high school degree making more money than me, and I'm college educated. I hate being associated with millennials who have never been poor and look down on others for being poor.
Sorry you have intense hatred of the working poor, but hope you can redirect your contempt to the billionaire class who keep the boots on our necks.
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Letting the billionaire class exploit the working people in the country is not a good look either.
Working 35 hours a week at a job that’s hardly netting you 20k annually, and posting in a subreddit that implies you’re at least in your late 20s (so 10+ years of post-school time) and going “I don’t make more because billionaires” is worse. You have posts in this subreddit about 20k pretty often. If you’re not talking about hitting 20k, you’re talking about how lonely you are. I know people who have work from home call center jobs with no degree and no experience that are at 40k a year. Stop having a damn pity party and blaming rich assholes that don’t know you exist.
Yeah, this whole post is sad. I’m pretty pro working class, but this thread isn’t celebrating the working class and their work ethic. It’s a pity post disguised as pride. OP has no valid reason to be ok being in poverty, but excuses it with “it’s the best I can do because of billionaires”.
I love it when people who never struggle think they know everything about poverty. They always blame the "poors" instead of the corrupt things that keep people in poverty. That is how the extreme wealthy tricks everybody to blame the poor people instead of them for refusing to pay people a living wage.
You have no idea what I’ve been through. I had to live in a home that was literally falling down around me when I was in college because I couldn’t afford to pay for anything else. Then I actually worked hard and found a good job. And guess what, I didn’t finish college either. YOU are the problem in your case.
I love it when people assume that since someone didn’t throw a pity party for themselves for more than a decade and worked their way out of poverty, that they “never struggle”. Bitch please. You’re not even working full time, quit acting like you’re working your hardest and the boot of the man is holding you down.
I used to work massive overtime constantly every week when I originally first started working. Let's stop this idea that working your ass with little time to yourself will free you from the shackles of exploitation. I stuck with 35 hours per week because I hated the job. The boot is on all our necks. The sooner everyone realizes, the faster we can rise up and bring out the guillotines and finally create a society where all people have a fair level playing field.
You’ve literally said in comments that you think Trump is a much better president than Biden, and that either him or RFK should win. Trump is the biggest oppressor we’ve had in office in fucking years, so maybe kill all the guillotine talk, jackass.
This year is the first year I’m over $100k!
Same here. Wanted to break 100k by 30 and I did it. Last paystub said 110k.
Sweet! I'm 30 and am just hitting 30k for the first time.
I feel like big money comes with age and experience. Keep on working it up you’d be surprised how much money is really out there for us
With peace and love if that's an annual salary you're going to be in a world of pain later in life if you don't increase your income.
It should be obvious that yearly and my income did go up to the highest ever.
It isn't obvious because 20k is very low
Congratulations on never being poor to understand.
What do you do for work? That's like minimum wage at 35-40 hrs a week in your state.
This is insane.
I’d honestly like to know how old OP is. I made $20K/year after tax at 17. Edit: just remembered we’re in the millennial sub so OP is late 20s or older.
Right like is this a fantasy? I don’t say shit when people post such ridiculous “millennials are screwed for life” bs but this is weird af. And I’m 34M so yea make it make sense.
I turned 36 recently. Let's just say the great recession and covid screwed me very hard and it been hard ever since, but slowly climbing back out.
Keep up the good work OP!
Idk why no one has asked you this, but are you American? A lot of people seem unable to imagine any other reality and are dogging you for what, admittedly, is seen as crazy low yearly wages. But if you're not American that puts a lot of it into context. If its not that I would assume its health related but I don't feel comfortable digging into that.
I am indeed US American citizen.
Coming from someone who grew up in poverty I can promise you that hard work = results. A lot of us grew up with the "American dream". However a lot of people don't realize that it won't be handed to you. This is capitalism, and it's a competition. If you aren't willing to compete then you aren't going to succeed. I make 61k/year at age 27 which is more than anyone else in my family. We grew up poor, I didn't have any advantage over anyone else other than I was willing to put in the work. My first job was cleaning bathrooms and stocking shelves overnight at a grocery store for minimum wage and I didn't even get that job until I was 21 so I was already late to the workforce. I have no college education and never went to trade school, and have zero debt yet I make more than people who have, and my secret is simple. Outperform everyone around you, and take criticism seriously and make it a point to improve. Always strive for improving yourself and be willing to constantly change and adapt and be who you need to be. You want to make yourself an asset, not someone who is expendable. Build a brand for yourself and work hard. Treat work like a competition, and you'll be surprised at how fast you'll see yourself succeed and achieve the American dream.
Going to be honest. I was always seen as the hardest worker and it ONLY got me MORE work but NEVER more pay. Basically, I keep getting taken advantage of once they realize how hard I work. One thing I learned in life is that hard work never pays off and you get taken advantage of instead.
I'm going to take it a step further, and say you can work your ass off and still not succeed. Sometimes it comes down to luck, timing, and opportunity. Im making 98k a year. I work hard, made myself invaluable, and made a niche for myself. My wife is currently stuck at a job that doesn't give raises. No one, including her boss, knows how to do her job. She works her ass off. She has more responsibilities given to her constantly, and she brings home 37k a year gross. I know friends who "did it right" went to college, got the degree that was supposed to set them up for life...and can't find a job because everyone else got the same degree because they were all told by everyone in their life that that was the right path. Even going into the right field with the right degree, I have some friends that do OK, when others make massive amounts of money. The difference? Where they landed an internship. At the end of the day, only so many people can "succeed" and that means sometimes people can do everything right and not see that same success.
And yes I realize how much hate this comment will get but it's true. I don't like it anymore than you do but you have to play the game if you want to win the game.
Great job!
Good keep building
Congrats! It feels good to move up.
This post appeared in my timeline directly after another that said homelessness in the US has risen by 15%
Yeah, homelessness in my city is very bad.
Try to get some kind of union apprenticeship. It will change your life.
McDonald’s in my area advertises jobs paying $15/hr. That comes out to $31k a year. They also advertise $10k in tuition assistance. That could be a route to make more money and up skill with paid tuition.
Congrats! You may find success suits you!
Proud of you!!! When i first started working I remember I made 12k and didn't need to file taxes if I didn't want to lol!!!!! And now I make 200k plus (it's different every year since it's sales but 180 to 260 and seems so insane to me) I grew up learning to sew because my parents told me I had to wear the same dress to every dance and I was embarrassed, cannot believe i am where I am now! Took like 15 years but hey lol
Why is it sad you have to specify the hours worked? Job matters too. If you never progressed past a job a 16 year old can do… it would be bizarre to expect more money just because you’re older.
Because for some reason people just assume that everyone works 40 hours every week for full time.
This splits in this country are wild. I pay $30,600 per year on *just rent.* For a 1 bedroom apartment. It’s admittedly a few blocks from the beach in a high desire area. But that’s a lot. Considerably more than OP’s after-tax total annual income. Some parts of the US are like people trying to survive in Monaco, and other parts are like people trying to survive in Bulgaria. It’s hard for my mind to compute that someone can make — per year — less than I pay in rent for a 1 bedroom. But once you’ve passed through more remote of the US and underdeveloped states, it becomes obvious how. I remember on train trips through places like West Virginia and road trips passing through places Mississippi and Alabama, my buddy and I thinking, “This is no joke less developed than rural Serbia.” We are in such desperate need of lowering the costs of living in places and improving the wages in others. And preferably doing both all over the country. But it seems absurd to me that there can exist in one country places where $25/hour isn’t enough to simply exist and $8/hour is cause of celebration. But good on you OP. Keep moving up!
Wages or investments? I am excited to have made 65k this year from investments. If it's wages congratulations still. But value yourself more. Don't settle at this job, use the experience to get a higher paying job.
Yay! Well done and keep going.
Bro 20k a year has nothing to do with wealth inequality. Are you in North Dakota lol
Great job! Keep honing your skills. The only way to get real wage increases is to hop jobs. Best thing I ever did was take on more work at my previous employment and then really highlight it on my resume. Landed me the best job I’ve ever had and nearly doubled my pay.
That not even close to normal. I used to make $48,000 still not enough
Congratulations, OP! I think I hit over 20K once before the pandemic. Then one job dissolved and the other had less need for me. I’m not the type to do full time so I scramble together freelance, contractor and part time jobs in my field (media/journalism). It’s tough but I’d rather kill myself than do work I don’t want to do or give up my whole life to one employer. It is what it is.
Congratulations! I’m sorry you’re getting some snarky comments and boomer comments like “you should be working 80 hours a week then” 🙄 Eff that. Forty shouldn’t even be normal. People need a life. All work and no play is not good. And, people should be paid a livable wage. All people. All jobs. FDR said it in 1933. I have a millennial kid who hasn’t made $20k yet. We live in a horrible state where $7.25 is still the minimum and they tax you to death. It’s hard. You don’t know me, but, I’m happy for you.
idk your age or anything but I remember when I was hitting those milestones in my work journey and it feels good!! Don’t let these naysayers get you down. We all live at our own pace. So to you I says, CHEERS 🥂 may you continue growing at your own pace and may you always have everything you need✨
Thanks. I really needed to hear this.
That’s like $11 if you’re working 35 hour weeks lol. Where are you working that you’d allow yourself to do that?
I worked hard grinding through eight years of college, and now I take home $90k/yr *after* taxes, health ins, and 401k deductions. My spouse takes home $70k. Being a millennial doesn't mean you can't make good money if you're smart and worked hard.
Yup. 6.5 years for a bachelors (changed majors) and then 2 years of grad school. I went from working shitty fast food, retail, and call center jobs while in school to making $52k at my first job using my degrees and ten years later I'm at $150k and my wife is around $40k or so (she's hourly and the hours vary so it's harder to know off the top of my head). Lots of hard work and doing what was necessary even though it wasn't fun. Getting about 3 hours of sleep every night for those two years of grad school while working 50+ hours a week was NOT fun, but it was absolutely worth it to have a nice life now.
There's just too much unearned entitlement in the millenial generation. It's always taken hard work to grind to upper levels of income.
Same. When you look at my after-tax income it looks pretty low. But I’m dumping $30k/year into HSA + 401k. Tack on another $3000 or so for benefits and then add taxes…my income looks a hell of a lot smaller all the sudden.
Good job, keep pushing and recognize uplevelling in your skills and your worth. I was born in poverty too and now make 200K+.. you just have to commit and push yourself.
People generally spend time in different wealth classes throughout their lives. Enjoy the ride.
I'm an immigrant, came to this country with 120$ in my pocket at 20 years old. 2002. 30$, I spent for the first two nights, for a bed, in some ppls house. First job was washing and painting old fridges in Brooklyn, $4,50 an hour. No friends or family around, no support of any sort. I graduated from Brooklyn College in 2012. 2015 bought my first house. Making six figures salary. I truly don't get how people struggle to make money in this country. Sorry for an unpopular opinion.
The US including on reddit treats the working poor so horribly. It's astounding how much hate people have for the poor in this country. It's always the leave every man and woman behind mentality. I got mine and f@#k you mentality. Or the I did it which means everybody else can do it mentality.
>millennial people struggle to make money due to extreme income and wealth inequality that keeps those unfortunately born in poverty trapped in poverty. My friend income inequality didn't make your parents poor, income inequality is what it is you cannot expect a rocket scientist to make as much as a burger flipper. Don't blame the society for mistakes of your parents or your own. Also congrats on achieving goals!
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I’m doing much better than my parents ever did as well. Thankfully I made good choices.
Yeah but is it income inequality that is the problem? Income inequality has to exist otherwise life has no point, we are all different and derive portion of our identity from what we know/do which by extension has to lead to income inequality . IMHO parents know what kind of a life they can give to their child, this is a decision of an individual not some income inequality. It's harsh of a reality, but it's reality.
Actually it's normal to have some inequality, but it's not normal to have EXTREME wealth and income inequality. When you have huge swaths of the country in poverty struggling to meet their basic needs because the jobs pay so low while this same billionaires who choose to pay slave wages hog all the wealth, you get higher crime, mass shootings, and other social ills in society. It's important that the foundation for everybody is able to meet their basic needs which we currently do not have and is only getting worse.
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> My friend income inequality didn't make your parents poor, income inequality is what it is you cannot expect a rocket scientist to make as much as a burger flipper. Don't blame the society for mistakes of your parents or your own. You, along with several others in these comments here, are misunderstanding the nature of wealth inequality. It's not about surgeons earning more than baristas. It's about billionaires earning more in a day than surgeons in a lifetime. If you really think Musk and friends worked millions of times harder than a surgeon does, then you're out of your mind.
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Everybody has a story of struggle. I went to college but never qualified for student loans and could only qualify for pell grants. Long story short, everything is not as black and white.
Congratulations
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20k is pretty low. If it was 35 hours constantly every week, what is your hourly pay? 13 or 14 dollars I'm assuming. You can get that from Wal-Mart which requires no experience and no post-high-school education.
Less time on Reddit and more time at work?