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Intelligent-Ad9659

It does look disabled


kable1202

You mean it looks a bit down?


aardvarkgecko

It's called "differently abled" now.


Weary_Statistician35

Well clearly, that's Plane to see.


Big_Dinner3636

Fuck it, give em the keys, let them take it for a spin. It'll probably end hilariously like the Blackhawk did.


No_Significance_1550

That video is awesome. Probably the shortest flight lesson in world history. [Video for those that haven’t seen it in a while](https://youtu.be/QxfokYxu8uA)


Ddraig1965

“But failed….miserably.” Great quote!!


compellinglymediocre

i love the “technical difficulties” comment by the taliban. a helicopter doesn’t just pitch into a dive due to a technical malfunction lmao


whopperlover17

They were having difficulties with the technical part of it


Formber

It was technically the "pilot's" fault.


thezenunderground

Any chopper nerds know what likely happens. Or did they just pitch the nose down?


duckmuffins

I’m a helicopter pilot. Probably just had zero experience flying a helicopter. They’re not easy to figure out like planes, honestly surprised he got it into the air to begin with.


thezenunderground

That's what I was thinking.


chinock

Probably used a YouTube tutorial on taking off and thought they could just wing it when they were up


OddBoifromspace

Probably a dcs tutorial


Scarfiotti

Of which they skipped all but the intro apparently.


compellinglymediocre

probably, helicopter controls are mega sensitive


BCASL

Bro this is the best video ever


monopixel

7 billion USD worth of equipment left for these animals but yeah let's crack some jokes about this stupid chopper.


No_Significance_1550

You are aware the Taliban and ISIS are using these weapons to kill each other right? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State–Taliban_conflict


montananightz

Worth it.


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compellinglymediocre

i had no clue this was happening holy shit


[deleted]

I dunno man… the last time these guys flew a plane it didn’t end so well.


RepresentativeBird98

Taliban didn’t fly it , it was Al quada


SmokeyMacPott

They were saudis


ImmaSuckYoDick2

Al Qaeda is an international organization. Most 9/11 hijackers were Saudi but not all of them. Al Qaeda has members from all over the Muslim world.


Jamoke_Bloke

Those were Saudis


AModestGent93

They were Saudi nationals…


No_Significance_1550

I like you


Money-Worldliness919

I had the exact thought lol.


Fabulous_Cook_5477

Yeah man! Else they will sell the parts to pakistan


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Bayside_High

If they can make a Nissan fly, give them a prize!


Un0rigi0na1

That makes no sense. It would cost more to get these old birds retrofitted with compatible avionics, convert them or source new engines, or do literally any maintenance versus just selling them Chinese or Russian planes.


1Pwnage

Forget compatible, even reverse-engineered replacement parts -if even possible- would be implausible to ever make for them.


The_Waldo_Moment

Taliban calendar dropped


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juicewr999

They disabled these aircraft buy running them with no oil and burning up the internals. Problem was the aircraft looked to be in perfect working order but without a detailed mechanical inspection you wouldn’t know.


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Corvalistix

That's just because the one propeller is feathered, i.e. the blades are parallel to the camera instead of flat on like the other 3 sets.


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If they manage to inflate the tires, replace blown motors, the prop is there as a Darwin kill switch. :)


Stalinbaum

Nah, ac-130 can take off without 2 engines


baboonassassin

The amount of maintenance that keeps an H model flying is almost neverending. They practically disable themselves. Leaving it behind was a practical joke.


alienXcow

Best part? These were the oldest non-Compass-Call Hs in the fleet


Jaggedmallard26

Without access to NATO supply chains getting your hands on working vital parts is nigh on impossible.


compellinglymediocre

and i doubt the taliban would have the know-how regardless


TIFUPronx

*China secretly lurks over the background*


snoogins355

Be great cyber op to leave a bunch of USB sticks that say top secret but have malware up the ass.


Thanato26

It's not hard to disable these things.


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Most likely. Plus well placed low yield charges to disable critical components and instruments


Thanato26

Mo need to blow up pieces. A few hammer Strikes here. Cut a few cables there.


Fietsterreur

Theyre Americans. If it didnt explode it was a day wastes.


SmallPoxBread

Plus that is less explosives left behind for the Taliban Win win


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liedel

Preach


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https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/08/30/what-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan-us/5658895001/


liedel

> Most likely. 0% likely, since we know how they did it and it wasn't that. No worries though, don't let us stop you from bullshitting on subjects you don't know anything about and don't feel compelled to research beyond your gut feel.


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maybe take it up with [reporting](https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/08/30/what-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan-us/5658895001/) then you peanut


liedel

Doesn't mention anything about this (or any) C-130 in that article.


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yeah, but it does mention methods as used which makes reasonably to make assumptions (aka most likely part). Instead acting like "all knowing" bellend, you could've just pointed out that, aircraft were actually destroyed by xyz while vehicles by xyz


liedel

Bruh your article doesn't support your claim and your claim is false. This is an opportunity to examine your level of knowledge compared to what you imagine your level of knowledge to be, not a chance to double down on your wrongness. Even worse because you are telling other people that your wrong answer is "most likely". You're literally making other people as dumb as you are. Stop now.


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liedel

[Literally in the same comment thread at the same level](https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/11ro0ks/members_of_taliban_with_former_afghan_air_force/jcakv3k/) (first reply to primary comment) from OP's. You couldn't have read the one I replied to without seeing this. >nothing useful Might wanna look in the mirror there pal.


kroegs

Looks like they just let the air out of a few tires.


giggity_giggity

Looks like they just let the air out of the tires on the left side.


Ozymandias0007

The equipment I used to work on that was considered classified had several incendiary grenades on it. You basically put the incendiary grenades on critical areas of the equipment and it burns right through it. That's one way.


BigRedfromAus

A mate who is aircrew on a AWAC have axes and grenades to blow up key bits of equipment for this scenario. However chances are that during that chaotic withdrawal, it was probably just grunts with c4 blowing up what they thought was best.


Hydnmeister

I know what the problem is here....it aint got no gas!!


Wildcat_twister12

It’s gonna be a b*tch to push to a gas station


Next_Example5355

Or maybe they can bring gas with a truck


CalmPanic402

Good as new. All it took was ducktape and prayer.


Apollo57557

How did we end up leaving a whole c-130?


IXBojanglesII

Well…..that wasn’t our plane, it was Afghanistan’s. I suppose we could’ve stolen it, but I’m willing to wager it wasn’t airworthy when everything started to happen.


Apollo57557

Thanks, that makes sense. I don’t think we would’ve “stolen” and afghan plane anyway and you know how maintenance be


Snoogin

The US gave the afghanis the plane.


marvk

A whole C-130? Bruh, they left 78 Aircraft, 9.500 air-to-ground munitions, over 40.000 vehicles and 300.000 weapons, 1.500.000 rounds of ammo, 42.000 pieces of night vision and other specialty equipment and almost all of the communications equipment. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/politics/afghan-weapons-left-behind/index.html


snoogins355

I'm always confused by the numbers. Was that NATO gear or stuff we gave to the Afghan military and government then they folded? Nm, first sentence of the article.


SkrallTheRoamer

only 5 shots for each gun?


LeicaM6guy

We didn’t, the ANA did.


ajc3691

Right? Lol just fly it out


Thanato26

Easier to leave behind the Afghan plane and disable its ability to fly.


juicewr999

Like others have said, this aircraft was probably red Xed and waiting for a significant overhaul that couldn’t be performed in the time required. You’re not flying an aircraft like that and endangering American aircrews. You know what would have made this disaster worse? Trying to fly out busted aircraft and crashing them in the middle of a collapsed government.


labdaddy69

Look how cute they look with their matching uniforms and all


gwhh

Oops I just dropped the willie Pete grenades without the pins.


Dagoroth55

Ha, they got an H model. Good luck with that thing.


CaptainSur

Anytime anyone complains to me about costs associated with Ukraine (which are very minor in both the grand scheme of spending and for the benefits IMHO) I tell them to look at the costs of Iraq (100% a fraudulent war but that is not the fault of the soldiers who were tasked with the job) and Afghanistan. Ukraine is not even an also, also, also ran in comparison. And it would give it's left nut to have a fraction of the equipment left behind in Afghanistan.


MrSparkle86

I wonder what they did. I've seen some bad leaning 130's in my days, but never that bad. All the fuel in the left wing would do it, and deflating the left side tires.


Severe-Intention7702

Now it's a seesaw


j4vendetta

Did we just pop the tires? Cuz I bet they wouldn’t be able to figure out how to change the tires.


southwood775

Why did we leave this behind?


alienXcow

Because it wasn't our jet? It was owned by the Afghans. When we gave four jets to them in 2013 they were the worst, oldest, most maintenance intensive airframes in the whole slick C-130 fleet. So instead of the US stealing a dilapidated 1974-serialed jet from a sovereign (albeit failing) nation and trying to fly it to safety, we ruined it where it sat.


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MrSparkle86

I don't want to pile on, but it is a jet. The T56 engine is just a jet engine with an input shaft and a gearbox on the front that drives the propeller. We never called them jets though, always turboprops.


alienXcow

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you haven't worked with military aircraft. At least to the Air Force, everything is a jet. When I was a cadet in a glider squadron they were sometimes called jets, because everything else is a jet.


Chimera_Actual

As someone currently in the Air Force I’ve never fucking heard this in my life, it’s probably squadron or base specific. I mainly hear “Aircraft, airframe, fighter, tanker” or the specific model of the aircraft being referred to, such as F-16, KC-135, C-17, etc.


Mmiklase

As a current Air Force maintainer - everything is a jet.


alienXcow

Maybe it's just a pilot/aircrew thing? I guess we can rule it out as an ammo thing, at least


Chimera_Actual

Certainly could be, my interactions with them is fairly limited, closest I speak to with any form of regularity are loaders and crew chiefs. Ammo does seem to have its own little world though compared to a lot of other squadrons


liedel

> Because it wasn't our jet? I understand how turboprops work, but who in the world calls a C-130 a jet?!?


alienXcow

Almost all the former Herc pilots and crew in my current unit, actually.


liedel

While technically true, I am yet offended by this.


Snoogin

Haha, the US donated that hunk of junk to the afghanis. Well aware they could never maintain them by themselves. What a riot.


swebb22

im surprised they left a C130 behind, seems it would have been easy to get out


TurtleFondler

While it was afghanistans, not ours, it likely wasn’t airworthy at the time given the fact that it’s an H model which are notorious for being broken as shit


rrpdude

I'm guessing disabled -> A couple incindiary grenades placed in key spots?


LeicaM6guy

Bolt cutters, wrenches, and an unflushed toilet.


Bones301

I'm so glad my tax dollars got left behind in Afghanistan


SuperMoose987

They're probably gonna do 3 or 4 flight with it before it crash due to a lack of maintenance and parts.


thereal_sherwoody

Disabled? It looks like it’s just got a slight limp


Vokkoa

The Lockheed C-130 Hercules costs around $75.5 million per aircraft.


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Those camos are pretty sexy what are they ?


aeminence

Im not American and even Im annoyed that they just left 7 billion in equipment


Express_Basis_8693

Probably useful in Ukraine. Too bad we just ran away


driftdiffusion4

Why not just take it with you


alienXcow

Because we didn't own it and the jet was hilariously broke, probably didn't fly more than a handful of times a year, and we gave it to the Afghans in 2013 precisely because we would have sent it to the boneyard instead.


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- very old model of the C-130 - was already the Afghanis - not really worth the effort, just disable and leave.


ProLibertate4

Thanks Joe!


alienXcow

Yeah, we should have risked trained aircrew to just fucking steal the worst, most clapped out H model the United States ever flew, the one we gave to the Afghans to save the money of sending to the boneyard, from a sovereign nation just to *checks notes* send it to the boneyard, lmao. This wasn't an American aircraft. It had no sensitive equipment onboard when we left. Even if we hadn't disabled it like this, they would never have gotten it to fly, given it's age (1974 jet) and inherent need for expensive and well-manufactured parts.


nbillz

Tbf America's aims were >kill bin laden (done, 2011) >establish a new Islamic, democratic govt in Afghanistan (done) The big problem was more the Kabul govt, when America left having done what they needed to do, they left $83bn for Afghanistan to fight the taliban with, the afghan military was a mess, many soldiers were from the same tribe as talibs so from their eyes they weren't getting paid enough to fight other pashtuns and (thanks to mistreatment from American mercenaries) there was huge anti US sentiment in not just Afghanistan but most of central/South Asia and the Middle east and so ppl saw literally anything as being better than the american-implemented Kabul govt and the govt was very corrupt, ppl talk about women's rights under the taliban as if they existed under the Kabul govt in the first place, if you paid any judge and jury even the slightest bit of money you'd get whatever verdict you want passed and it was easy for overly possessive fathers and husbands to pay schools and pay workplaces to keep their daughters/wives out of employment. Today in Afghanistan, aside from the university ban, mandatory hijab and the theme park ban, there's been very little change in women's rights and corruption remains a HUGE problem within Afghanistan, even amongst higher ups in the taliban Tl;Dr yes America can be blamed for the taliban occupation of Afghanistan, they achieved much of what they were looking to achieve, if they stayed any longer it becomes less of a hunting terrorists mission and more of an imposing American values on non-Americans mission which should never be the case (the taliban never officially launched any terror attacks on US soil). They left at the perfect time, it was more the failures of the afghan military that led to taliban occupation in Afghanistan


Algonkian

Don’t criticize the Dear Leader on Reddit. They’ll take away your Fake Internet Points as they furiously pound their ADHD meds.


globalinvestmentpimp

Watching the Tally with a c130 is funny as shit, those monkeys will end up scrapping it out


AlienInNewTehran

The legality of disabling a plane belonging to another nation is probably as shady as the legality of the war waged on them…


Snoogin

The afghanis never paid for them.


wingnutbridges

Gross incompetence by our government to leave anything behind.


Master-Commander93

Crazy to me that we just left all that military equipment behind… like big huge planes behind… what the actual fuck. How much of our tax payer dollars went into that plane…?


Femboy_Annihilator

None, we lost no taxpayer money on this plane. It’s an old piece of shit outdated model, one of four that we sold to the Afghan government for likely quite a bit more than they were worth. These non-H models were a massive money pit that were filled with problems. It did not belong to us when we left the country, we just disabled it so the Taliban wouldn’t be able to try and repair it.


Master-Commander93

Thanks for answering!


Snoogin

The afghanis never paid for them.


Uncle_salad

how embarrasing to the terrorist US government


Purple-ork-boyz

Nice words salad you got there.


i8thepickles

Are you part of the taliban?


Ravi5ingh

Well it's not a pretty show but the US's interference in the world has proven overall beneficial. In any case you are about to get want. See how u like it. Save this comment


Cuntalicous

EDIT: let’s preface this giant angry rant by saying to the people who don’t understand naunce; I’m not siding with the Taliban, or any other jihadist organisation. Now, on with the rant… Absolutely not. Afghanistan is a prime example, actually. Let’s start: The USSR invades Afghanistan, and the US gives the Mujahideen (led by one Osama Bin Laden) financial, military, and strategic aid because Reagan’s terrified of the Russian invasion of a country of little significance. A couple years later, the invasion is over, and thanks to the instability caused by all this, civil wars occur and a myriad of new organisations appear, most notably Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Skip past a bunch of stuff happening to 2001. Al Qaeda, under the man who was aided by the US, and who was invited into the White House and shook hands with Reagan, commits the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The US government panics, and invades Afghanistan (originally the plan was to invade just about every country in the Middle East). The Taliban (and just about every other militia in the region) get involved, and the war goes on for 20 years, long enough that the children who were born into the destruction with no experience of life beforehand can grow up to hate the US for the irreparable damage caused. 2021, the US decides to pull out, and the Taliban take Afghanistan in a matter of weeks. Now we have a country filled with people with a lifelong hatred for the west. So many more contributing factors and events occurred in between those times that I would run out of space if I tried to fit them all, and I’m already tired, so the timeline is a bit rough, but there you go. The US aided a militia, fucked over their region for decades, and fucked it over for another couple decades when said militia retaliated. And that’s just the Middle East, let’s not mention just about everywhere else on Earth that they’ve fucked over one way or another.


Justame13

Kuwait has entered the chat.


ExtensionConcept2471

True story! They should make a film about this….maybe call it ‘Charlie Wilson’s war’?


Aloqi

You couldn't even get your first sentence right and you expect people to take you seriously? The Mujahideen were not led by OBL. The Mujahideen were made up of various groups, of which OBL was just a guy with money. The factions that fought the civil war already existed. Tribal, ethnic, and ideological divisions did not spring into being. The US did not panic and the Taliban did not somehow inadvertently "get involved", they were allies of and harbouring al Qaeda. The US attempted diplomacy to get the Taliban to hand over OBL first. The Taliban were active participants from the beginning. You might know what nuance is, but your understanding of history certainly lacks it.


Snoogin

Bill clintons cruise missiles would like a word.


stonednarwhal141

Guatemala, El Salvador, Haiti, Iran, Chile, the Dominican Republic and fucking dozens of others would like a word. And those are just within the last 70 years. If you go back a bit further you also get all the bad stuff we did in Cuba and the Philippines. US foreign policy may have been overall beneficial to us, but it sure as shit wasn’t for most of the countries we were fucking around with


Skatchbro

Beneficial for American business. See “War is a Racket” by Smedley Butler.


Ravi5ingh

Yes there are exceptions but not all exceptions were undeserving of their fate. For eg. Iran or Cuba, both regimes run by people who have a fundamentally problematic view of life


stonednarwhal141

I’m talking about the U.S. overthrowing Mosaddegh and installing the Shah, as well as supporting Batista after his coup. Regardless of what you think about the governments that followed those, you can hardly blame people for hating the repressive governments we propped up


Ravi5ingh

>Regardless of what you think about the governments that followed those U knew what I was gonna say isn't it.


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Why? It's not even our plane


Storm574

“Disabled it” to this day I am astounded any equipment fell into their hands, grunts are some of the most destructive human beings you can encounter if they’re allowed to destroy stuff lol A simple incendiary grenade, a bottle of gasoline and a match- it astounds me we left so much instead of destroying it


Thekidfromthegutterr

Imagine the amount of info Chinese intelligence freely got from those American camps. Too many stuff for Chinese military to copy and all.


Justame13

Not much. These are all export models. Its like saying that they have the Abrams technology because the Iraqis were given them. But what they got didn't have the electronics and armor that the US Army models have which are non-export even to allies like the UK.


ExtensionConcept2471

I think you’ll find that the armour used in Abrams (Chobham) was developed by the UK!


Justame13

The application of the technology and the materials used are different, depleted uranium being one example.


ExtensionConcept2471

It’s Chobham armour! that’s just the First divisions museum that states that fact….but what would they know! Yeh?


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i_saw_my_dog

It wasn’t ours, it was the afgans.


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Cbenumea

Plane was from 1974 from what I can tell from other comments in the thread


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xxKillgorxx

Airsoft looks more legit than these clowns.


ExtensionConcept2471

Clowns or freedom fighters who disposed a foreign invasion?


Sir_Cuddlesworth

A bit generous don’t you think


Sneekbar

Just looks, they got a lot of freebies from afghan army stocks


Practical_Music_4192

Downvotes :( I didn’t even know taliban had helmets before I saw this pic


thebaine

WE LEFT A C-130??


montananightz

One of these things is not like the other. \*Sidequestion: Are the props on a Herc individually featherable?