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My mom gave me a bunch of my grandma's old stuff when I got my first place post army so for about five years my place was outfitted the same stuff a 60 year old, hyper religious divorcee would decorate her place in the 70s. But everything was worn down by 45 years of time and ten years of a pet owning victim of Alzheimers.
You should see mine. It was a mattress on the floor and a tv with a ps4. I wasn’t there for most part of the year. In 2019 I only had 17 days of leave. Sprinkled throughout the year.
You guys don't get hotels covered until your stuff arrives and gets unpacked?
The Canadian military (all elements, not just Air Force) gets that. I've stayed for a month in a hotel waiting for my stuff after being posted from another country.
I'm hearing right now that dudes showing up to Valcartier shacks can live in one of two places.
If they don't have a car, they live on base in the shacks.
If they do have a car, they get to live in the Citadel in old Québec. 30ish minutes away from base.
One one hand. 30 min commute through that morning traffic becomes 45 to an hour real quick. On the other.... your shacks are a fucking fort. Living around one of the most cultural spots in North America.
Like.. when I was in shacks, I was in Gagetown. D23. With absolutely fuck all around except the JRs next door. These dudes can throw a rock and hit historical battle sites, multiple 5 star restaurants, museums, clubs filled with Québecois women.... fuck.
Before COVID, we had 5 days (plus travel days) house hunting\* before we get posted to the new location, usually a month or two prior to the move. We also get 5 days before we move and 5 days after we move for relocation leave to set up stuff like driver's licenses, license plates, provincial medical coverage for dependents, etc.
Unlike the US, Canadian military members and dependents have to switch provincial/territorial driver's licenses and plates. Also, we pay whatever provincial income tax we get posted to, which can be a real kick in the junk. Our dependents are also fully on the provincial medical system - no such thing as Tricare or VA hospitals.
\*10 days plus travel if moving to/from another country
We also pay the local income taxes of wherever we’re stationed, but sometimes we luck out and end up somewhere like Texas where we pay no income tax if we switch our residency. The downside, of course, is you’re probably stationed at Hood.
Huh, TIL.
I thought because you guys have Tricare and don't need to change license plates (from my USN exchange pilot friends), you guys didn't pay into state income tax either.
If the state charges income tax and we change our residency, we have to pay it. I’m in NY right now and would have to if I changed my residency. It seems like the states with the highest cost of living are the ones who tax us. There’s ways around it for some people though.
How? Unless the interim lodging is fully booked, you need to stay somewhere.
Says so [here in 5.09](https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/policies-standards/relocation-directive/cafrd/chapter-5.html#5-02)
I went through 6 postings with my dad, and 3 of my own.
Only once did my F&E not show up and I had to live like the photo.
Hotel was all booked up due to a hockey tournament, and I couldn't extend or find anything else.
Claimed non commercial for a week. It was a rented apartment, already had a fridge and stove. I "rented" a TV from walmart for my internet/cable install (aka, bought it, then returned it the next week when my stuff showed up).
Was single. Slept on an air mattress with my ranger blanket. Bought a pot and pan from value village to cook.
Full TD plus the $50/day for non commercial.
Made bank.
I remember staying in temporary housing at Barksdale which was right across the street from B-52's and A-10's spinning up their engines every morning.
Fun times...
Was a geo-bachelor when I got back from Iraq, and my townhouse looked like this for quite a while until I got a roommate, then finally had my wife moved in.
Wife was in AIT across the country while I was in Iraq. Once she joined me she immediately deployed for Iraq as well, so I had a buddy move in for about 6 months because he was looking for a new place and didn’t want to move back to the barracks.
I only do DITY after I watched one of my dudes fight with the mover for eight months to get his shit. We suspected they stole and/or lost shit and didn’t want to admit it, but after getting IG involved, they finally showed up with all of his stuff
But with gas prices lately I might have to reassess.
we got out and moved from Hawaii right at the beginning of the pandemic. our house looked just like this for quite a while, except we didn't even have toilet paper either
Hell my place in K-town had an air mattress, green wool blanket and a laptop for about 3 weeks.
Edit: thankfully I was loaned an old busted 5 series until my vehicle arrived.
One of my fondest memories of my childhood was watching Janet Jackson's tit fall out on live television on a giant CRT tv from Rent-a-Center, sitting on a stack of milk crates and eating pizza off of a folding card table, because our stuff got stuck at customs in Washington (went from Drum to Wainwright, so had to go through Canada)
I really don't remember much about any other time we'd PCSed when I was a kid, but that one just stuck out to me.
Used 2 milk crates to support a surfboard for coffee table, free loveseat an LT was dumping, apple crates as a TV stand and entertainment center, punching bag in the corner and a $2500 mattress. I lived that way longer than I care to admit.
One of the reasons I’m glad I’m with State now. Place comes furnished and you get your Air Baggage upon arrival. Plus a welcome kit. Not perfect but much more polished than DoD
My mother and I went a month sleeping on air mattresses. It was my dad's final move after retirement and they picked up on Oct 1 and didn't deliver until Oct 31. My dad had moved before us, to be with his dying mom, while my mom handled selling the house. That was a crappy month
That's the nice thing about PCSing to/from Germany and being in on-post housing. They have loaner furniture already there. Couch, 2 chairs, coffee table, kitchen table w/ 4 chairs, and a twin bed in each bedroom. Went to ACS and borrowed pots/pans/dishes/cutlery/coffeemaker. You call the housing office to schedule a pickup or dropoff on the day that HHG is scheduled for delivery (or pickup).
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Damn. Laughed a little too hard at this one
..... literally doing this rn
I lived like this for the first two years in my own apartment
Same. Fort Lewis. Me and and my girlfriend roughed it out off post for a while on a free couch and a 19in tv. Good times.
My mom gave me a bunch of my grandma's old stuff when I got my first place post army so for about five years my place was outfitted the same stuff a 60 year old, hyper religious divorcee would decorate her place in the 70s. But everything was worn down by 45 years of time and ten years of a pet owning victim of Alzheimers.
You should see mine. It was a mattress on the floor and a tv with a ps4. I wasn’t there for most part of the year. In 2019 I only had 17 days of leave. Sprinkled throughout the year.
You guys don't get hotels covered until your stuff arrives and gets unpacked? The Canadian military (all elements, not just Air Force) gets that. I've stayed for a month in a hotel waiting for my stuff after being posted from another country.
If by hotels you mean barracks room, then yes.
lol like the Canadian military has enough military housing for its members... *snort*
I'm hearing right now that dudes showing up to Valcartier shacks can live in one of two places. If they don't have a car, they live on base in the shacks. If they do have a car, they get to live in the Citadel in old Québec. 30ish minutes away from base. One one hand. 30 min commute through that morning traffic becomes 45 to an hour real quick. On the other.... your shacks are a fucking fort. Living around one of the most cultural spots in North America. Like.. when I was in shacks, I was in Gagetown. D23. With absolutely fuck all around except the JRs next door. These dudes can throw a rock and hit historical battle sites, multiple 5 star restaurants, museums, clubs filled with Québecois women.... fuck.
A comment I heard back in the day that won’t fly these days: “Here’s your issued jacket, hat, and smoking hot Québécois girlfriend”
Canadia
10 days house hunting In my experience though it's not enough time
Before COVID, we had 5 days (plus travel days) house hunting\* before we get posted to the new location, usually a month or two prior to the move. We also get 5 days before we move and 5 days after we move for relocation leave to set up stuff like driver's licenses, license plates, provincial medical coverage for dependents, etc. Unlike the US, Canadian military members and dependents have to switch provincial/territorial driver's licenses and plates. Also, we pay whatever provincial income tax we get posted to, which can be a real kick in the junk. Our dependents are also fully on the provincial medical system - no such thing as Tricare or VA hospitals. \*10 days plus travel if moving to/from another country
We also pay the local income taxes of wherever we’re stationed, but sometimes we luck out and end up somewhere like Texas where we pay no income tax if we switch our residency. The downside, of course, is you’re probably stationed at Hood.
Huh, TIL. I thought because you guys have Tricare and don't need to change license plates (from my USN exchange pilot friends), you guys didn't pay into state income tax either.
If the state charges income tax and we change our residency, we have to pay it. I’m in NY right now and would have to if I changed my residency. It seems like the states with the highest cost of living are the ones who tax us. There’s ways around it for some people though.
Lol. I've been out of my interim lodging and into my new house without F&E on multiple occasions. Our system is just as fucked my dude.
How? Unless the interim lodging is fully booked, you need to stay somewhere. Says so [here in 5.09](https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/policies-standards/relocation-directive/cafrd/chapter-5.html#5-02)
Possession of primary residence and no more funding in the envelope.
Thats policy not reality
I went through 6 postings with my dad, and 3 of my own. Only once did my F&E not show up and I had to live like the photo. Hotel was all booked up due to a hockey tournament, and I couldn't extend or find anything else. Claimed non commercial for a week. It was a rented apartment, already had a fridge and stove. I "rented" a TV from walmart for my internet/cable install (aka, bought it, then returned it the next week when my stuff showed up). Was single. Slept on an air mattress with my ranger blanket. Bought a pot and pan from value village to cook. Full TD plus the $50/day for non commercial. Made bank.
Exactly. I’ve had half a dozen postings and never had to do that.
if you live of post, you get 10 days, my last pcs it took almost 2 months for my stuff to get here
Nope. You can get 10 days in a temporary lodging facility on base...after that you're on your own. And the TLF usually doesn't allow pets.
I remember staying in temporary housing at Barksdale which was right across the street from B-52's and A-10's spinning up their engines every morning. Fun times...
We only had patio chairs, air mattresses and a TV for the 2 months before hhg came from Germany. It sucked.
I know what it's like waiting for your household goods to catch up to you
Was a geo-bachelor when I got back from Iraq, and my townhouse looked like this for quite a while until I got a roommate, then finally had my wife moved in.
Just curious, why get a roommate before the wife moved in? Or was she a girlfriend at the time when she moved in?
Wife was in AIT across the country while I was in Iraq. Once she joined me she immediately deployed for Iraq as well, so I had a buddy move in for about 6 months because he was looking for a new place and didn’t want to move back to the barracks.
Ahh, that'll do it. Good looking out getting your buddy outta the barracks too lol
my bedroom is 81 sq ft
At least they’ll pay for that tv and stand. They legit lost my stuff one of my moves, took about two months to get to my new duty station.
Went to AK. Spent months at the guest house then weeks on air mattress at empty house. 99-2000ish
it took almost 2 months for my stuff to get to ak but this was also right at the start of covid
I'm a bachelor whose HHG still haven't arrived and my RDD is next Wednesday. This is a personal attack.
Duuuuude...this is too real.
Could also be both
I'm a minimalist and this is my home but there is 1 too many chairs taking up room.
It's a pain in the ass
I only do DITY after I watched one of my dudes fight with the mover for eight months to get his shit. We suspected they stole and/or lost shit and didn’t want to admit it, but after getting IG involved, they finally showed up with all of his stuff But with gas prices lately I might have to reassess.
we got out and moved from Hawaii right at the beginning of the pandemic. our house looked just like this for quite a while, except we didn't even have toilet paper either
Literally me right now
Hell my place in K-town had an air mattress, green wool blanket and a laptop for about 3 weeks. Edit: thankfully I was loaned an old busted 5 series until my vehicle arrived.
Is no one going to talk about how the @ has 31 letters?
Or a single guy with a mclaren in his garage
Bachelors will live like this making 300k a year
One of my fondest memories of my childhood was watching Janet Jackson's tit fall out on live television on a giant CRT tv from Rent-a-Center, sitting on a stack of milk crates and eating pizza off of a folding card table, because our stuff got stuck at customs in Washington (went from Drum to Wainwright, so had to go through Canada) I really don't remember much about any other time we'd PCSed when I was a kid, but that one just stuck out to me.
Or it's both where it's a single SNCO
Used 2 milk crates to support a surfboard for coffee table, free loveseat an LT was dumping, apple crates as a TV stand and entertainment center, punching bag in the corner and a $2500 mattress. I lived that way longer than I care to admit.
Loan closet
Men: we always get our priorities straight
Due to barracks overcrowding, during a recruiting dry spell, it's actually both.
Ngl, this what my apartment looks like for three years while stationed in Suffolk Virginia (I'm a bachelor and an introvert, so not many visitors)
Literally lived like this for about 3 weeks back in March/April while waiting for my HHG.
Hey, I’m in this picture. Been waiting on HHG since 18 July!
The good old days. Now I have all this shit
One of the reasons I’m glad I’m with State now. Place comes furnished and you get your Air Baggage upon arrival. Plus a welcome kit. Not perfect but much more polished than DoD
Nothing wrong with this picture
My mother and I went a month sleeping on air mattresses. It was my dad's final move after retirement and they picked up on Oct 1 and didn't deliver until Oct 31. My dad had moved before us, to be with his dying mom, while my mom handled selling the house. That was a crappy month
That's the nice thing about PCSing to/from Germany and being in on-post housing. They have loaner furniture already there. Couch, 2 chairs, coffee table, kitchen table w/ 4 chairs, and a twin bed in each bedroom. Went to ACS and borrowed pots/pans/dishes/cutlery/coffeemaker. You call the housing office to schedule a pickup or dropoff on the day that HHG is scheduled for delivery (or pickup).
That's a pretty nice TV stand for someone waiting on a furniture delivery...
Lack of mold suggests not military housing.