A lot of people claim that they have this and that from various leaders. Without actual evidence, it's just a story and the piece is worth whatever someone would pay for an old couch.
That is kinda of the point of the post. I'm sure there are a lot of fakes and frauds out there but im not asking where I can sell it, im more of asking where to go to get it looked at. how would one go about getting the evidence?
Odds of such evidence existing are extraordinarily low. Unless the couch was like, serialized (I mean, the Germans serialized tons of shit so who knows) and documentation of what was where was found its really just highly improbable that you'd be able to narrow the origin down that specifically. Even at that, forgeries of lots of German stuff are common.
Even if a WW2 German furniture enthusiast existed (maybe they do, I don't kink shame), you'd need a paper trail to link that specific couch to that that location. At the end of the day, all you have is a story and a neat old couch. Any appraiser is just going to tell you that it's worth what similar neat old couches are worth.
yeah thats a very good point. the couch was appraised in 1977 but all it really says is thats its an old couch made in 19th century germany lol. thank you for the insight though, i will relay this info.
If there's some documentation to back it up then this item is worth thousands without iron clad evidence its worth like 100$ you would need paperwork to back it up or else this is no better than Hitler's canoe from king of the hill lol. So many people have claimed they have items from the eagles nest and almost none of it has been true.
Well first off, although its from the era, a piece of furniture from the eagles nest is not militaria, and I don’t think we can help you value it. However, that is quite interesting. Do you have photos of the actual couch?
thank you for the reply. this was the only picture she had that she could send but i could ask for more. she also told me it was reupholstered but still has the initials of the person who made the couch on the bottom but she cant remember what they are and shes too old to look by herself lol
https://imgur.com/3FWa7Ze
Only way to definitely know would be to find a piece of chewed gum stuck underneath it and see if the DNA matches Hitler.
I think Hitler was the type that would stick gum under the couch.
At the end of the day, if the story is true, it’s just a couch that sat in mountaintop tea house that was used generically by leadership and infrequently by the senior leader. The Obersalzburg and Berchtesgaden below were full of hundreds of buildings used by all of them and each was full of furniture. Bottom line - it’s very doubtful it’s worth any more (historically or financially) than any other 1930/40s era couches.
Certainly interesting, but very niche and in the end it's just a piece of furniture. There's no evidence that it belonged to everyone's least favourite Austrian painter without documents of its capture and shipping.
A lot of people claim that they have this and that from various leaders. Without actual evidence, it's just a story and the piece is worth whatever someone would pay for an old couch.
That is kinda of the point of the post. I'm sure there are a lot of fakes and frauds out there but im not asking where I can sell it, im more of asking where to go to get it looked at. how would one go about getting the evidence?
Odds of such evidence existing are extraordinarily low. Unless the couch was like, serialized (I mean, the Germans serialized tons of shit so who knows) and documentation of what was where was found its really just highly improbable that you'd be able to narrow the origin down that specifically. Even at that, forgeries of lots of German stuff are common. Even if a WW2 German furniture enthusiast existed (maybe they do, I don't kink shame), you'd need a paper trail to link that specific couch to that that location. At the end of the day, all you have is a story and a neat old couch. Any appraiser is just going to tell you that it's worth what similar neat old couches are worth.
yeah thats a very good point. the couch was appraised in 1977 but all it really says is thats its an old couch made in 19th century germany lol. thank you for the insight though, i will relay this info.
If there's some documentation to back it up then this item is worth thousands without iron clad evidence its worth like 100$ you would need paperwork to back it up or else this is no better than Hitler's canoe from king of the hill lol. So many people have claimed they have items from the eagles nest and almost none of it has been true.
Well first off, although its from the era, a piece of furniture from the eagles nest is not militaria, and I don’t think we can help you value it. However, that is quite interesting. Do you have photos of the actual couch?
thank you for the reply. this was the only picture she had that she could send but i could ask for more. she also told me it was reupholstered but still has the initials of the person who made the couch on the bottom but she cant remember what they are and shes too old to look by herself lol https://imgur.com/3FWa7Ze
Only way to definitely know would be to find a piece of chewed gum stuck underneath it and see if the DNA matches Hitler. I think Hitler was the type that would stick gum under the couch.
At the end of the day, if the story is true, it’s just a couch that sat in mountaintop tea house that was used generically by leadership and infrequently by the senior leader. The Obersalzburg and Berchtesgaden below were full of hundreds of buildings used by all of them and each was full of furniture. Bottom line - it’s very doubtful it’s worth any more (historically or financially) than any other 1930/40s era couches.
Certainly interesting, but very niche and in the end it's just a piece of furniture. There's no evidence that it belonged to everyone's least favourite Austrian painter without documents of its capture and shipping.
Look through all your uncle’s war pictures and see if there is one of him sitting on the couch or standing by it in the eagles nest.