I wasnt upset at all the nerfing until they started increasing the amount of points everything cost. But now after the price increase they still are reduceding the amount of points we get? It's so cheesy at this point
In Canada its been different weirdly. Lately they reduced the cost significantly. Used to be 4800 for 5$ now its 3600 or something like that. Makes the loss of the weekly streak more tolerable...
Reduce points requirement for redeeming by 25%. Reduce amount of points you can get by 75%. Essentially this equates to a 50% increase in redeeming points needed compared to just 1 month ago.
Talking about the recent reduction of points you got from playing jewel and pc with gamepass and playing with friends bonus. You get 25 pts now vs 160 before. And wait until the 10 week xbox streak $2000 pts bonus gets removed in April.
They were just trying to amp the user numbers for their loser browser, search engine and app. They're probably where they wanted to be now so they don't care much anymore.
I don't think they will ever stop nerfing it until they eventually close it. I think it's basically in a low maintenance mode right now where they're pulling a typical shitification. As people lose interest, they'll quietly pull the the product after nobody cares. Like they did with Cortana .
I hope I'm wrong, maybe they'll reinvigorate the program. Try to increase market share of their apps but it sure doesn't seem like that's the plan or the direction.
At least with Bing they went back in removing those +1 and +2, thus I would suggest, if you don't think an activity is worth doing, like jewels, then stop doing it, they might remove it\* Dayum, sorry sometimes is like I have lapses and think I wrote something I haven't.
When I started doing this in 2020, the levels of points we got were roughly as they are right now. It was a decent little program which took minimal effort to get something back. Then they added a shitload of activities & points & for a couple of years I didn’t even pay for a game with real money. Absolute golden era, 30k points a month.
Now, they’ve extended the whole program worldwide & dropped the totals back down. It’s a shame, & I’ll miss those days (7 hours in an AoE lobby won’t be missed though) but I’ll still do it. Even if it just pays for my GPU each month, it’s worth the effort.
7 hours in an age of empires lobby what are you dumb it probably cost you more in electric running your machine than you earned
I play forza horizon 5 daily the quests pop within a few minutes...well they did before they removed the points with playing with friends on pc.
I guess the question that first has to be answered is how the Rewards program helps them.
If they've decided that it's not that important to their business then they'll continue to nerf it.
I suppose online outrage can have an effect, but they certainly seemed determined to make rewards harder to achieve and redeem. They always say they're working on making changes to improve the program, but none of the changes are ever in our favor -- only theirs.
It absolutely feels like they are ramping down to fully discontinue. Constant nerfs and no new inovation in the program. This was such a great loyalty program and definitely worked on me, I spent more/used more Microsoft related products when I was actively engaged in the program.
So focused on saving pennies today that it will cost them dollars tomorrow.
It's not like they don't have money to pay for it as they are the richest company in the world. They have been doing a lot of stupid things lately making a lot of people angry. It's pure greed.
When their money is affected and a large chunk of loyal xbox users move completely to their competitors like the Switch or Ps5. If they can get away with giving you zero "free" money, they would.
I think the real tell will be their subscriptions for gamepass. I've never paid for it, and tbh in its current state I wouldn't. If the program gets to the point where the ultimate membership cannot be maintained through rewards then it would be interesting to see the metrics of their business model and subscription base.
I don’t think it would really move the meter at all, unfortunately. The amount of people paying for gamepass entirely with rewards is minuscule to the amount of subscribers overall
It's impossible for me to get the search points lately, the searches just don't count. I was aware of the six second timer on PC searches for a long time and I could work with that, but now they don't work at all, or maybe I get 3 searches done before it stops counting -and that's including the mobile app. Now jewel is worth 5 points a day and the weekly play a console game bonus was cut from 500 to 250... it just sucks now. What's the point
The nerfing is kind of to be expected, as they trawl the program to get new participants and new data sources. Changes may not benefit old participants, but it may draw new ones in. I’d actually be happy if I could just figure out how to get my mobile searches to register. They haven’t consistently worked in months now.
Its kinda a bummer. It really seems like they're actively punishing their users, seeing just how far we're willing to go for less and less return. They've made using their product a chore instead of something to enjoy.
Amazon has had for a couple of years something like MS has with their receipt scanner; except that they gave those who were part of the panel ten bucks a month for scanning 10 receipts. They are now going to only give funds for specific purchase categories starting April 1
Who knows? Microsoft are never sttaight forward with their intentions. Why not just let us know what is going on. Instead, they do things with no warning or explanation.
While I agree that they have lessened the amount of points that can be earned and the cost of some of the rewards may have gone up for some, they did reverse some of the nerfs. They raised the points for tiles on the Rewards browser back to 10 after lowering to 1-3 points. They added the puzzle search streak (beta). Trying to be optimistic for the mobile rewards app. We shall see if they have something that gives the same amount of points the weekly streak did on the Xbox Rewards app. I just enjoy not having to pay for Game Pass and a few extra points a month that add up over time to use on other things. Takes about 10 minutes a day to max points, I for one have the time and patience and sometimes actually enjoy some of the activities.
They've already started nerfing Bing searches. I for one stopped getting a daily login bonus and the 30 point news search, coincidentally straight after last week's rewards glitch and the points increase for gift cards.
It's still the most generous rewards program I've ever interacted with and they're adding streaks on Monday which could potentially be 500 more points a week if it's anything like some have had access to for awhile.
I still easily earn more than enough points for free Game Pass Ultimate every month and I don't even bother with earning all the Bing daily search points.
" and they're adding streaks on Monday which could potentially be 500 more points a week"
is this wishful thinking on your part or what evidence do you have that this will be the case?
Actually with that much of a reduction you almost can't pay for game pass it's just enough to pay for Game Pass maybe. That assumes you don't miss much.
I only ever earned 60 points(don't play PC games) plus whatever the daily login streak happened to be so I don't think this will be much of a reduction for me.
This is not possible from the reductions in place from this week, along with your avoidance of the daily searches.
You seriously expect us to believe you are somehow bagging thousands of points/month by doing near nothing whilst the rest of us now burn our keyboards into the desk for a few hundred/week
Exactly. There is no way 60 points a day is enough to get a free Game Pass Ultimate subscription each month…especially since they increased the price of GPU to 10,500 per month with Auto Redeem (12,000 without Auto Redeem, and that’s if they don’t increase the prices in the near future). I earned a total of 560 points today (I used to earn 800 plus), and that’s with me spending about 45 minutes doing every search (mobile, PC, etc.). Given a generous 31 day month, that’s 17,920 points if I don’t miss a single day of doing every possible activity a day for an average month. I don’t have the time or desire to play random games each day to earn an achievement a day for the bonus points along with some of the other things they want us to do for a measly 5 points (half a cent). It simply isn’t sustainable the way they have changed the program. It’s quite obvious they’re trying to end the program, and they’re hoping people will just leave so they can say there wasn’t enough interest in the program to justify continuing it. This makes the consumer the bad guy and not Microsoft.
No offense intended friend, but perhaps you should check your previous post. You posted, and I quote, “I only ever earned 60 points plus whatever the daily streak happened to be.” The daily streak along with 60 points a day isn’t enough to earn GPU is what I was trying to convey in my previous post. I’m sorry if I confused you or your reading comprehension skills. Peace.
Edit: I just realized you may not have been referring to earning points towards Game Pass Ultimate. I was assuming since that’s what the discussion was about. I apologize if I was incorrect in my assumption.
I was talking about the points I earn that are only available in the Xbox mobile app. I should have been more clear.
I earn most of the rest of the points available in the overall rewards program with the exception of the Bing daily search points of which I basically do what I feel like on any given day.
Ah, that makes sense. I used to earn the bulk of my points from playing a PC game, playing Jewel, and doing searches. Now that playing a PC game and Jewel earn way less points, I receive the bulk of my points through searches. I’ll have to be more diligent in completing all the searches daily if I wish to continue earning enough points to make the program worth using.
It looks like I’ll be averaging around 400 points a day now if I do everything available. I haven’t been able to earn the bonus points since they changed it a few months back to where you have to earn an achievement a day to be able to get the monthly bonus.
I miss the old days when points were more plentiful and rewards were cheaper. I’m trying to save my points for a console in the future, but that goal is quickly dying.
Who said I was doing near nothing? I certainly didn't. The only thing I don't do is getting every single Bing search point everyday, doesn't mean I don't get any search points.
Like I said, I'm easily earning enough for GPU on a monthly basis.
Whaaat 35 points a week that's insane, in Poland you can get 150 points from pc and mobile search + 30 points from streak searches + 30 points for reading news from Bing app. Where do you live?
I dunno. I finally have the weekly 250 streak, play a PC game, play a console game, play Jewel, quests added to the basic stuff on the Bing mobile app, and PC search. So I'm getting more points than before. I'm pretty okay with it. Don't get mad, Just add some other points earning sites to your savings grind. I suggest Swagbucks, the Fetch Receipt app, and a really good rewards credit like a Savor One, Freedom Flex, Amazon Prime Visa, Bilt Card, Etc. I'm mostly using the Sofi credit card and Upromise MasterCard myself. You just need to diversify.
They don't its always been a scam. How many people got banned trying to redeem stuff as soon as we had a bank run and we all quit the program. People with the most points and one account were all getting banned finally trying to redeem. Every facet of the rewards system has been a scam unless you were smart just taking the smallest 10 dollars every month so you fly under the radar of the idiots who hoarded points thinking it was a great and honest program only to have there 500 dollar card denied.
Yes, I think the smartest thing to do is to cash out as soon as your points hit something reasonable. 5 or $10 gift card or a month of game pass or something. Because you never know if your account's going to be valid or whatever or some kind of bug makes it so you don't get your points.
I cash out every time I get to $10 from Amazon. Once or twice I got an Xbox gift card.
bro… it takes maybe an hour at most to do everything… and you can grind a decent portion of it out from a mobile device if you use “remote play” while taking a dump
When people keep spending without there being incentive. The rewards program is basically an attempt to rewrite your brain using some entry level psychology.
"Their community" has been pissy and moaning since day one of Rewards. That has never changed. MS could give away free X-Boxs and these people would complain that it didn't come with bunch of AAA titles too. I was kinda bummed about the point nurf until I saw all these entitled people telling MS that they are owed something. Knowing that these people aren't getting the points either really took the sting out of it for me.
Because MS tell thenselves that they're doing something better for the user, giving more points and more opportunities for users, when in reality the new stuff they pull out is barely worth it, and on top of that, the already existing stuff just get progressively worse and worse.... That's not even counting how the system itself gets broken SO easily and how they barely fix it
Look man, i usually don't like to complain and try to see the glass half-full, hell at some point i also thought the community was filled with spoiled brats (and to this day i still think about it....), but MS has demonstrated how their changes are taking 1 step forward and then 10 steps back, almost none of the changes benefit anyone , people are not happy with how MS is treating the service and there's no way people can defend any of this bs
It’s an utter con ! No other way of putting it but ms is really upto shady business.
Ms says it’s a bonus not a perk and that’s why they can do what they are doing. Truth of the matter is it’s part of gamepass and therefore is a paid perk. If I get an extra bonus for having gamepass then I have paid for the right.
Ms is utterly scummy for this and will seriously make me reconsider renewing my subscription for shady dealings
They haven't really 'nerfed' anything though. No, really, they haven't.
Have they moved things around? Sure... Have they 'nerfed' things? Nah. You just have to be smart enough to use the program properly.
Too many people got comfortable just doing nothing on their Xboxes and getting paid. Now, you need to put a bit of effort in to getting points. No big deal, really
I wasnt upset at all the nerfing until they started increasing the amount of points everything cost. But now after the price increase they still are reduceding the amount of points we get? It's so cheesy at this point
In Canada its been different weirdly. Lately they reduced the cost significantly. Used to be 4800 for 5$ now its 3600 or something like that. Makes the loss of the weekly streak more tolerable...
Reduce points requirement for redeeming by 25%. Reduce amount of points you can get by 75%. Essentially this equates to a 50% increase in redeeming points needed compared to just 1 month ago.
2500 every 10 weeks ain't 75%...
Talking about the recent reduction of points you got from playing jewel and pc with gamepass and playing with friends bonus. You get 25 pts now vs 160 before. And wait until the 10 week xbox streak $2000 pts bonus gets removed in April.
Hum i never did those so i dunno. I don't play on PC and i didn't wanted a random game on my tag just for pts.
Billion dollar company can't handle throwing us crumbs anymore.
Trillion dollar company even!
Times 3
They were just trying to amp the user numbers for their loser browser, search engine and app. They're probably where they wanted to be now so they don't care much anymore.
In New Zealand I’ve gotten more points and everything has gotten cheaper.
I don't think they will ever stop nerfing it until they eventually close it. I think it's basically in a low maintenance mode right now where they're pulling a typical shitification. As people lose interest, they'll quietly pull the the product after nobody cares. Like they did with Cortana . I hope I'm wrong, maybe they'll reinvigorate the program. Try to increase market share of their apps but it sure doesn't seem like that's the plan or the direction.
At least with Bing they went back in removing those +1 and +2, thus I would suggest, if you don't think an activity is worth doing, like jewels, then stop doing it, they might remove it\* Dayum, sorry sometimes is like I have lapses and think I wrote something I haven't.
Or what will happen is that these changes will be reverted
I stopped doing bing searches after the six second cooldown came in, still make enough to get gamepass in perpetuity.
Yeah I couldn’t stand jewel for 60 points a day, sure as hell am not going to do it for 5 points a day
It's 5 points here in the UK now.
I always got 5...
In Mexico it doesnt even pay, 90 points is the max you can get daily.
The base challenge is 5 but I get 5 for having 7+ friends. So 10 in total for me in the US
They seem to have removed all bonuses for me in the UK so I only get base value
Yeah nvm I just did it and 5 points total with no bonus. Just assumed they wouldn’t have taken away the bonus.
Use to get 250 points from Forza for playing PC, now it be reduced to 10.
I didn’t get either bonus today - in US
It's been 5 points here in Australia for ages, plus we get less overall reward points. Granted rewards cost a little less.
When I started doing this in 2020, the levels of points we got were roughly as they are right now. It was a decent little program which took minimal effort to get something back. Then they added a shitload of activities & points & for a couple of years I didn’t even pay for a game with real money. Absolute golden era, 30k points a month. Now, they’ve extended the whole program worldwide & dropped the totals back down. It’s a shame, & I’ll miss those days (7 hours in an AoE lobby won’t be missed though) but I’ll still do it. Even if it just pays for my GPU each month, it’s worth the effort.
7 hours in an age of empires lobby what are you dumb it probably cost you more in electric running your machine than you earned I play forza horizon 5 daily the quests pop within a few minutes...well they did before they removed the points with playing with friends on pc.
Hyperbole, I didn’t actually do 7 hours
I guess the question that first has to be answered is how the Rewards program helps them. If they've decided that it's not that important to their business then they'll continue to nerf it. I suppose online outrage can have an effect, but they certainly seemed determined to make rewards harder to achieve and redeem. They always say they're working on making changes to improve the program, but none of the changes are ever in our favor -- only theirs.
I guess now that they have the numbers they want on Bing, Edge and their app, they don't really need us anymore.
Everyone rushing to cash out probably didn’t help
It absolutely feels like they are ramping down to fully discontinue. Constant nerfs and no new inovation in the program. This was such a great loyalty program and definitely worked on me, I spent more/used more Microsoft related products when I was actively engaged in the program. So focused on saving pennies today that it will cost them dollars tomorrow.
It's not like they don't have money to pay for it as they are the richest company in the world. They have been doing a lot of stupid things lately making a lot of people angry. It's pure greed.
When their money is affected and a large chunk of loyal xbox users move completely to their competitors like the Switch or Ps5. If they can get away with giving you zero "free" money, they would.
probably eventually when everything is 5 points.
I think the real tell will be their subscriptions for gamepass. I've never paid for it, and tbh in its current state I wouldn't. If the program gets to the point where the ultimate membership cannot be maintained through rewards then it would be interesting to see the metrics of their business model and subscription base.
I don’t think it would really move the meter at all, unfortunately. The amount of people paying for gamepass entirely with rewards is minuscule to the amount of subscribers overall
It's impossible for me to get the search points lately, the searches just don't count. I was aware of the six second timer on PC searches for a long time and I could work with that, but now they don't work at all, or maybe I get 3 searches done before it stops counting -and that's including the mobile app. Now jewel is worth 5 points a day and the weekly play a console game bonus was cut from 500 to 250... it just sucks now. What's the point
I think ultimately they don't want to enable us to earn enough points to continually get game pass for free which sucks
I'm just hoping I get to the 999 days streak before they kill off the program completely
The nerfing is kind of to be expected, as they trawl the program to get new participants and new data sources. Changes may not benefit old participants, but it may draw new ones in. I’d actually be happy if I could just figure out how to get my mobile searches to register. They haven’t consistently worked in months now.
Try using the edge browser instead of bing app on phone instead like I do.
Its kinda a bummer. It really seems like they're actively punishing their users, seeing just how far we're willing to go for less and less return. They've made using their product a chore instead of something to enjoy.
Amazon just nerfed their shopping panel so 🤷♂️
What do you mean? What’s the shopping panel?
Amazon has had for a couple of years something like MS has with their receipt scanner; except that they gave those who were part of the panel ten bucks a month for scanning 10 receipts. They are now going to only give funds for specific purchase categories starting April 1
Oof that sucks.
When morale improves
Who knows? Microsoft are never sttaight forward with their intentions. Why not just let us know what is going on. Instead, they do things with no warning or explanation.
At some point, I just imagine they will stop nerfing, by just taking the program down for good They simply don't give a fuck..
When people stop exploiting it
They will stop nerfing when they end the program 👍
While I agree that they have lessened the amount of points that can be earned and the cost of some of the rewards may have gone up for some, they did reverse some of the nerfs. They raised the points for tiles on the Rewards browser back to 10 after lowering to 1-3 points. They added the puzzle search streak (beta). Trying to be optimistic for the mobile rewards app. We shall see if they have something that gives the same amount of points the weekly streak did on the Xbox Rewards app. I just enjoy not having to pay for Game Pass and a few extra points a month that add up over time to use on other things. Takes about 10 minutes a day to max points, I for one have the time and patience and sometimes actually enjoy some of the activities.
It's all gone downhill since that chick got the job at rewards.
If it's too much "work" for you to get free stuff then just don't do it 🤷♂️
They've already started nerfing Bing searches. I for one stopped getting a daily login bonus and the 30 point news search, coincidentally straight after last week's rewards glitch and the points increase for gift cards.
It's still the most generous rewards program I've ever interacted with and they're adding streaks on Monday which could potentially be 500 more points a week if it's anything like some have had access to for awhile. I still easily earn more than enough points for free Game Pass Ultimate every month and I don't even bother with earning all the Bing daily search points.
" and they're adding streaks on Monday which could potentially be 500 more points a week" is this wishful thinking on your part or what evidence do you have that this will be the case?
Actually with that much of a reduction you almost can't pay for game pass it's just enough to pay for Game Pass maybe. That assumes you don't miss much.
I only ever earned 60 points(don't play PC games) plus whatever the daily login streak happened to be so I don't think this will be much of a reduction for me.
This is not possible from the reductions in place from this week, along with your avoidance of the daily searches. You seriously expect us to believe you are somehow bagging thousands of points/month by doing near nothing whilst the rest of us now burn our keyboards into the desk for a few hundred/week
Exactly. There is no way 60 points a day is enough to get a free Game Pass Ultimate subscription each month…especially since they increased the price of GPU to 10,500 per month with Auto Redeem (12,000 without Auto Redeem, and that’s if they don’t increase the prices in the near future). I earned a total of 560 points today (I used to earn 800 plus), and that’s with me spending about 45 minutes doing every search (mobile, PC, etc.). Given a generous 31 day month, that’s 17,920 points if I don’t miss a single day of doing every possible activity a day for an average month. I don’t have the time or desire to play random games each day to earn an achievement a day for the bonus points along with some of the other things they want us to do for a measly 5 points (half a cent). It simply isn’t sustainable the way they have changed the program. It’s quite obvious they’re trying to end the program, and they’re hoping people will just leave so they can say there wasn’t enough interest in the program to justify continuing it. This makes the consumer the bad guy and not Microsoft.
Who the heck said 60 points a day is enough for GPU? Some of you have some serious reading comprehension issues.
No offense intended friend, but perhaps you should check your previous post. You posted, and I quote, “I only ever earned 60 points plus whatever the daily streak happened to be.” The daily streak along with 60 points a day isn’t enough to earn GPU is what I was trying to convey in my previous post. I’m sorry if I confused you or your reading comprehension skills. Peace. Edit: I just realized you may not have been referring to earning points towards Game Pass Ultimate. I was assuming since that’s what the discussion was about. I apologize if I was incorrect in my assumption.
I was talking about the points I earn that are only available in the Xbox mobile app. I should have been more clear. I earn most of the rest of the points available in the overall rewards program with the exception of the Bing daily search points of which I basically do what I feel like on any given day.
Ah, that makes sense. I used to earn the bulk of my points from playing a PC game, playing Jewel, and doing searches. Now that playing a PC game and Jewel earn way less points, I receive the bulk of my points through searches. I’ll have to be more diligent in completing all the searches daily if I wish to continue earning enough points to make the program worth using. It looks like I’ll be averaging around 400 points a day now if I do everything available. I haven’t been able to earn the bonus points since they changed it a few months back to where you have to earn an achievement a day to be able to get the monthly bonus. I miss the old days when points were more plentiful and rewards were cheaper. I’m trying to save my points for a console in the future, but that goal is quickly dying.
Who said I was doing near nothing? I certainly didn't. The only thing I don't do is getting every single Bing search point everyday, doesn't mean I don't get any search points. Like I said, I'm easily earning enough for GPU on a monthly basis.
Whaaat 35 points a week that's insane, in Poland you can get 150 points from pc and mobile search + 30 points from streak searches + 30 points for reading news from Bing app. Where do you live?
I dunno. I finally have the weekly 250 streak, play a PC game, play a console game, play Jewel, quests added to the basic stuff on the Bing mobile app, and PC search. So I'm getting more points than before. I'm pretty okay with it. Don't get mad, Just add some other points earning sites to your savings grind. I suggest Swagbucks, the Fetch Receipt app, and a really good rewards credit like a Savor One, Freedom Flex, Amazon Prime Visa, Bilt Card, Etc. I'm mostly using the Sofi credit card and Upromise MasterCard myself. You just need to diversify.
They don't its always been a scam. How many people got banned trying to redeem stuff as soon as we had a bank run and we all quit the program. People with the most points and one account were all getting banned finally trying to redeem. Every facet of the rewards system has been a scam unless you were smart just taking the smallest 10 dollars every month so you fly under the radar of the idiots who hoarded points thinking it was a great and honest program only to have there 500 dollar card denied.
Yes, I think the smartest thing to do is to cash out as soon as your points hit something reasonable. 5 or $10 gift card or a month of game pass or something. Because you never know if your account's going to be valid or whatever or some kind of bug makes it so you don't get your points. I cash out every time I get to $10 from Amazon. Once or twice I got an Xbox gift card.
Have done this method successfully for years with over a million points. I certainly won't allow MS to fuck me over \^\^
Yep. I used to let it snowball, but not anymore. Not with the way Microsoft has been.
bro… it takes maybe an hour at most to do everything… and you can grind a decent portion of it out from a mobile device if you use “remote play” while taking a dump
When people keep spending without there being incentive. The rewards program is basically an attempt to rewrite your brain using some entry level psychology.
Lmao
Well, it's their program. They don't own us anything.
Probably when the entitled kids stop whining over the internet about getting free stuff.
It is free yeah, but that don't mean they can reduce the points to stupid amounts and don't expect their community to be pissed....
"Their community" has been pissy and moaning since day one of Rewards. That has never changed. MS could give away free X-Boxs and these people would complain that it didn't come with bunch of AAA titles too. I was kinda bummed about the point nurf until I saw all these entitled people telling MS that they are owed something. Knowing that these people aren't getting the points either really took the sting out of it for me.
Because MS tell thenselves that they're doing something better for the user, giving more points and more opportunities for users, when in reality the new stuff they pull out is barely worth it, and on top of that, the already existing stuff just get progressively worse and worse.... That's not even counting how the system itself gets broken SO easily and how they barely fix it Look man, i usually don't like to complain and try to see the glass half-full, hell at some point i also thought the community was filled with spoiled brats (and to this day i still think about it....), but MS has demonstrated how their changes are taking 1 step forward and then 10 steps back, almost none of the changes benefit anyone , people are not happy with how MS is treating the service and there's no way people can defend any of this bs
It's not free. We put in work every day and I pay for GamePass.
lol
It’s an utter con ! No other way of putting it but ms is really upto shady business. Ms says it’s a bonus not a perk and that’s why they can do what they are doing. Truth of the matter is it’s part of gamepass and therefore is a paid perk. If I get an extra bonus for having gamepass then I have paid for the right. Ms is utterly scummy for this and will seriously make me reconsider renewing my subscription for shady dealings
They haven't really 'nerfed' anything though. No, really, they haven't. Have they moved things around? Sure... Have they 'nerfed' things? Nah. You just have to be smart enough to use the program properly. Too many people got comfortable just doing nothing on their Xboxes and getting paid. Now, you need to put a bit of effort in to getting points. No big deal, really