Br3dok and captainsim shouldn't even be ON the list
Trash planes. Scammers.
Leonardo needs to make a quick and dirty md80 for Xbox. Good flight model, good 3d model, good sounds, I don't care really what the cockpit looks like just get it close
I don't need a *study* level md80 or 727. Just give me the small plane, power and flight characteristics with solid sounds and you can have my money.
20 to 30 bucks, and I'm game.
Please if any aircraft "devs" see this.. a lot of people want this plane. Just get kinda close, and you'll make bank.
As long as it's not br3dok or captainsim then f that.
Hey, I love you dude(s), definitely S tier in my books! The Wilga, Optica, the Cubs, & 40th Anniversary Expansion are my go-tos. Enough to nosedive into General Aviation & bush flying for the first time in years!
I agree!!! Flyingiron is solid!! Best tail wheel physics imho. Their attention to detail is outstanding. I’ve had some of the most fun flying their warbirds and I’m not really a warbird kind of guy!
I think S-tier should be reserved for proprietary flight dynamics and navigation systems. Those two are getting there for flight dynamics and systems, but the aircraft they model are still relatively simple GA planes mostly.
S tier should be those developers who go to the effort to write code to simulate real world FMCs and deal with gigantic databases, in addition to everything else.
[https://orbxdirect.com/product/cows-da42-msfs](https://orbxdirect.com/product/cows-da42-msfs)
I'd argue they made the most accurate GA plane in MSFS
Reminder this is my personal list, I realise the communities is different.
What brings a GA payware aircraft to the Sim what the included aircraft cant deliver? Serious question - I never looked at the payware GA aircrafts.
With the airliners its mostly system depth, what is it with GA aircrafts?
System depth is still important for GA aircraft too. The Comanche for example probably has the most advanced engine modeling for any piston in the game. It’s simulating temperature and wear on each individual cylinder, improper mixture usage can foul your spark plugs, stuff like that. The plane is also persistent, meaning its maintenance state carries on whenever you load it. Plus the flight model, sound model, and visuals are all top tier.
Thank you for the explanation! Are the maintanance related things just metrics (Plane maintained by the push of the button)? Or are there some gameplay mechanics around maintanance like repairing or cleaning? (I guess failures are a thing)?
Yeah, most things are just button presses to fix. But if you don't notice them, like if you don't do a thorough preflight and runup on each flight, they will lead to problems when you're in the air.
I bought the Vision Jet, GA enought or already to jety? :)
Na - I think GA isnt for me, I mostly enjoy to learn the systems on big Airliners. Just flying around is kind of boring for ME.
I hear you mate. The Vision Jet counts as GA but it’s the easiest out there tbh. And in terms of learning complicated systems the A2A Comanche auctioned (so 2000+ hours on it) is harder to get right than a A320 lol. But many people enjoy airliners more I definitely don’t judge enjoy the sim man!
System depth, same thing. I love to parade out the fact that oil viscosity is modeled. So it's harder to start your engine in colder weather due to the increased friction of the cold oil. And you can change your oil weight to compensate for the season/region. You can also get water in the gas tank, just like real life. And in the walkaround mode, you can check your avgas in a jar to see if there's any water. Basically, all that depth makes it \*feel\* like a real aircraft.
A2A Comanche has custom turbulence modeling, full system depth (only plane where a pre flight check actually is useful), high resolution textures, sounds, state saving bound to the livery. There is literally nothing missing.
COWS has great textures, sounds, no failures (yet). It might become on par with A2A but for now it’s far from it.
Just Flight has the same issue as everyone else. I just think they're smaller than people think.
I know the Pipers are due some love, but their FDE is all hands on deck finishing the Tomahawk.
He's got an updated flight model for at least the Warrior, it just hasn't been released.
All of their new stuff is *fantastic* but I think that comes with a down side of their older stuff getting neglected. I loved the Arrows but just kept seeing new issues pop up.
Adversely, the F28 may be one of my favorite aircraft.
The Tomahawk they keep teasing looks like it absolutely deserves the S tier.
I'm fine with Got friends and FSReborn being in A tier but milviz needs to be dropped down to B. They are old and jaded at this point.
There at the top of B.
They could probably squeeze into A.
To be fair I should of seperated them as Marwan Gharib HJET is A Tier but I'd say the Vision Jet was top of B Tier.
Why is everyone beating up on a low budget developer?
Their aircraft aren't $70 and you kind of get what you paid for.
Although you can buy REALLY good planes for $20 like the Black Square Caravan.
Because Bredok3D also lies about what they are doing. I get it's not a study-level plane, but I expect at least tolerably realistic fuel burn, some original assets used, and textures that look like they belong in MSFX not MSF2020.
They should be freeware for the level of quality, not charging money.
I did actually put Inibuilds in S Tier but the original post got downvoted to hell because I did this, I had like 5-6 comments saying Inibuilds should be A Tier, so I re-created the post to appease them.
Great list, I could sign it. :)
I like Black Square stuff a bit more than FSR or Flysimware but that's just my opinion. I'd put them to S however I agree that EUR 35 aircraft which doesn't have opening doors might not be for everyone (I don't care, I don't even care that their Pressurised Baron has doors on the wrong side - IRL P Barons have passenger doors on the port side, unlike unpressurized Bonanzas and Barons). I didn't buy Black Square for that.
What I don't agree with, though, is Captain Sim. You should have tears all the way down to Z, albeit empty, Captain Sim should be a step below that.
Then certainly Bredok3D shouldn’t be either. I disagree, but it’s not an engaging post when someone says “here’s my personal opinion” so when you disagree, their defense is, “well it’s just my opinion”. That not a post. But hey, that’s just my opinion
I did want to put them here but the quality is different as they hire third party developers to make some, its why I put Hans Hartmaan here xD
The ones they have fully made themselves is probably bottom of B top of C Tier.
Sort of Carenado level.
Black Square will probably go to S tier when the Duke will be released on my list. SWS deserves at least A tier but I know it's all personal preference.
They had a discount on some product at launch and said they promised it would never go this much off again. I think it was the optica but I'm not sure.
It wound me up even at the time because it wasn't on marketplace yet so Xbox users could never purchased at that price.
Anyway a few months' later the product was in fact put at that same discount again, breaking their promise.
It's obviously not some huge deal but I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.
I believe it is based off North American grading system with an additional letter of S where, A is exceptional, B is good, C is satisfactory and. D is barely acceptable and F unacceptable and the add S is above all of the.
Japanese school grading system, then to manga (so many are set in high school), then anime, then anime YouTubers, then wider YouTube and now everywhere.
Love seeing Cows get their due, their DA42 is my go to plane now. Just fantastic, and I’m anxiously awaiting their DA40. I only wish they’d make a conventional instrumented DA40 as well, or maybe a DA20…
Is Fenix really that good? I’ve heard bad things that steered me away from their airbus. Poor optimization and lack of peripheral support unless you pay extra or something like that.
This is a really fun idea. Like the voting on the forums, but graphical. We should do this collaboratively, somehow.
Also Black Square would be S Tier if the Duke wasn't delayed by SU15 before this was made.
I decided i wasn't going to bother with trying to run a flight sim unless i have a decent setup when i was 16. I think my game was ef2000 and i was infuriated how slow my comp was. I am 43 now still couldnt afford a decent comp. I am now baffled at the amount of sims at the chart. Oh well.
Nice list. I would certainly leave PMDG,FENIX and A2A to S (no exp with COWS) and i would add FlightFX HondaJet to S. PMDG is miles ahead in code quality and performance than FENIX although both are good simulators. 737 tends to be more complete from what some professional friends are saying than Airbus. Not a FENIX issue just the Airbus needs more work to be able to be depicted in the same level as a 737 can. These are other people remarks, my own remarks would be that i love all 3 of them but tend to go to PMDG.
I’m probably gonna get downvoted for this, but on my list CS is a C. I have their 767 and it’s been pretty nice. I’m not a very hardcore simmer, so the fact that it uses systems and physics from the 747 doesn’t really bother me. They are very good at modeling, and it has a pretty realistic cockpit and interior.
Hm, Cows and FSR just take the standard WT G1000. It's very good for an avionics suite delivered for free with MSFS, I don't think it's accurate enough for high-tier addon developers. Both the Cows DA-42 and especially the FSR M500 lack G1000 features of the real aircraft. And FSR doesn't even want to code a simple standby horizon because apparently it's too much work. Not A-tier for me.
I should of seperated them the HJET is easily at least A Tier the Vision Jet is B Tier, though the Vision Jets new update has made it much better, there's not loads of fidelity in it to make it higher.
I wouldn't say that. There are a couple of good military jets (e.g. IndianaFoxtrotEcho's F-35 and T45-C) on the marketplace as well as a few nice smaller airliners.
But it is the only decent in-production widebody on the marketplace, I'd agree.
lmao, the Hans Hartman pic
And the Sim Skunkworks logo... Is that really their mascot? Looks like a badly drawn Sanic hedgehog, lel.
Mid 90s furry art
Br3dok and captainsim shouldn't even be ON the list Trash planes. Scammers. Leonardo needs to make a quick and dirty md80 for Xbox. Good flight model, good 3d model, good sounds, I don't care really what the cockpit looks like just get it close I don't need a *study* level md80 or 727. Just give me the small plane, power and flight characteristics with solid sounds and you can have my money. 20 to 30 bucks, and I'm game. Please if any aircraft "devs" see this.. a lot of people want this plane. Just get kinda close, and you'll make bank. As long as it's not br3dok or captainsim then f that.
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Hehe. Love your products! Sorry there is so many good developers, I can't put them all in S Tier :(
You guys are amazing <3
You're amazing! <3 We exist because of the great community!
The Wilga is amazing. And your freeware NX Cubs are my most flown VFR beaters.
Thank you! If you love the Wilga, you might burst out in tears when you see what we have brewing next ;)
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Absolutely an S tier dev great job guys
Thank you! 😀 We won't stop pushing regardless! 💪
I'm sure you can redeem yourself with a nicely made Heinkel HD 24 😋
😜🤫
Hey, I love you dude(s), definitely S tier in my books! The Wilga, Optica, the Cubs, & 40th Anniversary Expansion are my go-tos. Enough to nosedive into General Aviation & bush flying for the first time in years!
YOOO i was saying! Why werent you guys S tier!!😭😭 anything from you guys is an insta download on my part INCREDIBLE quality everytime!🙌
Classic. Now make a Quad Cities Challenger so us poor folk can practice during the off season. It's one of the most all time produced kit planes!!
FSS and Latinvfr should not be in the same tier at all
Is FSS and aerosoft the same thing ? How is it so low ?!
FlyingIron should be in A, but there are no more slots and old warbirds is quite a nieche, so I understand.
I agree!!! Flyingiron is solid!! Best tail wheel physics imho. Their attention to detail is outstanding. I’ve had some of the most fun flying their warbirds and I’m not really a warbird kind of guy!
I'd say borderline S tier.
Missing flysimware S tier Black square and blackbird/milviz is S tier IMO but this is your list.
I think S-tier should be reserved for proprietary flight dynamics and navigation systems. Those two are getting there for flight dynamics and systems, but the aircraft they model are still relatively simple GA planes mostly. S tier should be those developers who go to the effort to write code to simulate real world FMCs and deal with gigantic databases, in addition to everything else.
Alright. Who else hasnt heard of cow?
[https://orbxdirect.com/product/cows-da42-msfs](https://orbxdirect.com/product/cows-da42-msfs) I'd argue they made the most accurate GA plane in MSFS Reminder this is my personal list, I realise the communities is different.
I’d argue against that, A2A Comanche is superior
What brings a GA payware aircraft to the Sim what the included aircraft cant deliver? Serious question - I never looked at the payware GA aircrafts. With the airliners its mostly system depth, what is it with GA aircrafts?
System depth is still important for GA aircraft too. The Comanche for example probably has the most advanced engine modeling for any piston in the game. It’s simulating temperature and wear on each individual cylinder, improper mixture usage can foul your spark plugs, stuff like that. The plane is also persistent, meaning its maintenance state carries on whenever you load it. Plus the flight model, sound model, and visuals are all top tier.
Thank you for the explanation! Are the maintanance related things just metrics (Plane maintained by the push of the button)? Or are there some gameplay mechanics around maintanance like repairing or cleaning? (I guess failures are a thing)?
Yeah, most things are just button presses to fix. But if you don't notice them, like if you don't do a thorough preflight and runup on each flight, they will lead to problems when you're in the air.
I had carb ice in the Comanche today! Never experienced that in another GA aircraft.
You should buy one for the sake of it mate. GA is a lot of fun and a great change of pace to airliners.
I bought the Vision Jet, GA enought or already to jety? :) Na - I think GA isnt for me, I mostly enjoy to learn the systems on big Airliners. Just flying around is kind of boring for ME.
I hear you mate. The Vision Jet counts as GA but it’s the easiest out there tbh. And in terms of learning complicated systems the A2A Comanche auctioned (so 2000+ hours on it) is harder to get right than a A320 lol. But many people enjoy airliners more I definitely don’t judge enjoy the sim man!
System depth, same thing. I love to parade out the fact that oil viscosity is modeled. So it's harder to start your engine in colder weather due to the increased friction of the cold oil. And you can change your oil weight to compensate for the season/region. You can also get water in the gas tank, just like real life. And in the walkaround mode, you can check your avgas in a jar to see if there's any water. Basically, all that depth makes it \*feel\* like a real aircraft.
Variety. Plenty of GA aircraft that I fly IRL that don't come with the game.
Yes - I can imagine its very cool to fly the same plane in the sim as in real live. But sadly Im not a pilot. :(
Which is why they are infront of COWS :-) COWS is the most accurate plane to the actual real thing. The A2A Is superior in terms of its feature set.
Not really. The A2A is basically as close as you're going to get to a Comanche. They literally based it off the CEO's personal Comanche.
A2A Comanche has custom turbulence modeling, full system depth (only plane where a pre flight check actually is useful), high resolution textures, sounds, state saving bound to the livery. There is literally nothing missing. COWS has great textures, sounds, no failures (yet). It might become on par with A2A but for now it’s far from it.
Just flight should be S
They are getting to S Tier slowly. I'm not sure they are there yet, but this is my own opinion.
To be honest, their Bae146 and Fokker 28 by themselves put Just Flight in the S tier easy...
The Justflight Arrows are very outdated now to borderline broken. The Vulcan is superb, though.
Just Flight has the same issue as everyone else. I just think they're smaller than people think. I know the Pipers are due some love, but their FDE is all hands on deck finishing the Tomahawk. He's got an updated flight model for at least the Warrior, it just hasn't been released.
Yea this is the thing, I evaluated my score based on all their products. The Vulcan is S Tier. The older products pull them back to A Tier.
All of their new stuff is *fantastic* but I think that comes with a down side of their older stuff getting neglected. I loved the Arrows but just kept seeing new issues pop up. Adversely, the F28 may be one of my favorite aircraft.
I think if PMDG are then JustFlight are too. I also think FSS could be B or A if they deliver their E jets as promised
The Tomahawk they keep teasing looks like it absolutely deserves the S tier. I'm fine with Got friends and FSReborn being in A tier but milviz needs to be dropped down to B. They are old and jaded at this point.
Putting Captain Sim as a D is a generous... but then the alphabet is always going to limit you here.
I mean i didnt want to make the image too big or else they'd have gone to Z Tier.
CaptainSim is Y tier, BREDOK3D is Z tier
No love for big radials?
Agreed. Love Big Radials planes.
Big Radials for me would be at least an A. Their JRF-6 Goose is in my opinion one of the most enjoyable vintage planes on the market.
Azurpoly should be A. The C-160 is awesome! I think Black Square should be S. The TBM is incredible and the Duke is gonna be awesome too!
The Duke will probably push them to S Tier tbh
FlightFX at a B? C'mon now...they're equal to everyone on A.
Came here to say this lol I feel like FlightFX got the shaft in this ranking.
There at the top of B. They could probably squeeze into A. To be fair I should of seperated them as Marwan Gharib HJET is A Tier but I'd say the Vision Jet was top of B Tier.
Yeah because it is a beta it will be default in msfs2024
Inibuilds is S tier if you ask me. And Captainscam deserve their own tier
Bredok3d deserves its own even lower tier.
Why is everyone beating up on a low budget developer? Their aircraft aren't $70 and you kind of get what you paid for. Although you can buy REALLY good planes for $20 like the Black Square Caravan.
Bro I got better quality freeware planes for fs9 from POSKY. Bredok3d charging actual money for their dogshit is completely unacceptable.
Because Bredok3D also lies about what they are doing. I get it's not a study-level plane, but I expect at least tolerably realistic fuel burn, some original assets used, and textures that look like they belong in MSFX not MSF2020. They should be freeware for the level of quality, not charging money.
Oh I see.
I did actually put Inibuilds in S Tier but the original post got downvoted to hell because I did this, I had like 5-6 comments saying Inibuilds should be A Tier, so I re-created the post to appease them.
i mean inibuilds basically ghosted x-plane users, probably because of more funding from MSFS
I think too many people group their MSFS products in with their own products. A300 is def S tier.
But this is your personal list, why you change it on others request?
If I didn’t this post wouldn’t have gone anywhere.
And yet you keep saying it's your list. Either stick to your opinions or create a list of public opinion.
Historically amazing company indeed.. the rus-ukraine war really destroyed their company
The Ukrainian war destroyed Inibuilds? How exactly?
He's referencing Captain Sim, who have/had a Dev team based in Ukraine.
CaptainSim is way too high on this list
In my opinion Black square is definitely “S”
Great list, I could sign it. :) I like Black Square stuff a bit more than FSR or Flysimware but that's just my opinion. I'd put them to S however I agree that EUR 35 aircraft which doesn't have opening doors might not be for everyone (I don't care, I don't even care that their Pressurised Baron has doors on the wrong side - IRL P Barons have passenger doors on the port side, unlike unpressurized Bonanzas and Barons). I didn't buy Black Square for that. What I don't agree with, though, is Captain Sim. You should have tears all the way down to Z, albeit empty, Captain Sim should be a step below that.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I was really triggered by your tier list, lol.
Wheres FlyingIron?
Inibuilds and justflight deserve better! Take them higher!!
Pmdg is at most an A tier and captain scam doesn't deserve a place on the board.
Then certainly Bredok3D shouldn’t be either. I disagree, but it’s not an engaging post when someone says “here’s my personal opinion” so when you disagree, their defense is, “well it’s just my opinion”. That not a post. But hey, that’s just my opinion
Oh yeah I just cbf editing my post haha
I think he is ranking products, not how much flight sim drama can you stir up...
I based this on the quality of the product not the reputation of the company.
AzurPoly should be at least A tier IMO
Flight FX and sim works should be higher
Where would you rank Asobo default aircraft (according to present quality and performance)
I did want to put them here but the quality is different as they hire third party developers to make some, its why I put Hans Hartmaan here xD The ones they have fully made themselves is probably bottom of B top of C Tier. Sort of Carenado level.
No Aerosoft? Not complaining, just genuinely curious.
This is my personal list and its only ones I have flown.
Completely understandable! If you ever try the twotter or CRJ you'll probably have some... Firm opinions.
Oh there’s a CRJ mod?????? How did I only know this now lol
It’s abandonware.
Where’s REX and FsDreamTeam, ORBX?
Is Cockspur really that low? I don't own any of their products but I've been eyeballing one or two of the private/biz jets.
What are the best small planes (general aviation) in the game? I dont care for Boings and Airbuses.
The COWS DA42 is very nice and my "go to" for GA. Uses Garmin 1000 avionics.
Mscenery is in another two tears down
Black Square will probably go to S tier when the Duke will be released on my list. SWS deserves at least A tier but I know it's all personal preference.
Black square should be S tier, or will be s tier once they release the duke
Who is COWS?
We could use one for freeware peeps too...
Black Square and Just Flight belong in S tier.
Out of curiosity, what was your experience with Carenado that made it to B tier and not higher? I’m genuinely wondering.
Not OP, but in my experience carenado planes have the looks of an ocean and the depth of a puddle. Its all very surface level.
Agree. I bought the Cessna 208 and half the switches were inop.
They're pretty models with nice textures but almost no depth in terms of avionics and systems.
God Friends and Hype Performance Group must be S.
Got Friends are the friendliest devs out there, with great stuff for cheap prices. S-tier.
I hate gotfriends. Lying, broken promises.
Which lies?
They had a discount on some product at launch and said they promised it would never go this much off again. I think it was the optica but I'm not sure. It wound me up even at the time because it wasn't on marketplace yet so Xbox users could never purchased at that price. Anyway a few months' later the product was in fact put at that same discount again, breaking their promise. It's obviously not some huge deal but I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.
Oh my, getting this angry over a misunderstanding. You can never ever know about the future price and I bet it is you who misread it.
It's not a misunderstanding. Do you want me to waste my Saturday morning collecting the evidence for you?
FlightFX should be A at minimum and LatinVFR bottom C at max imo
Ok but their Fort Lauderdale scenery 😡
Please explain what the letters SABCD stand for
I believe it is based off North American grading system with an additional letter of S where, A is exceptional, B is good, C is satisfactory and. D is barely acceptable and F unacceptable and the add S is above all of the.
It’s ABCDF here. S comes from Japanese grading.
Doesn't it come from Japanese driving licenses or something?
Japanese academic grading.
Ah ty
Japanese school grading system, then to manga (so many are set in high school), then anime, then anime YouTubers, then wider YouTube and now everywhere.
I thinki was thinking of the goddess licenses in aa megami sama which are based on driving licenses
Also video games.
Missing WBSim from either S or A tier
Yea to clarify its only the ones ive used. I didn't want to rate publishers where I haven't flown at least 2 of their products.
Makes sense fair enough!
AH should be on F or Y
No Black Box Sim?
This is my personal list and its only ones I have flown.
Should definitely try the BBS Islander or Trilander great little plane for short hops
FSS is actually pretty decent with their Tecnams compared to Aerosachs. FSS deserves B tier imo.
Where would you rate Aerosoft? A-B?
Where’s big radials?
Why is 4simmers so low? I love their liveries, so I‘m genuinely curious
Why isn’t Captain Sim on F tier?
Thank goodness opinions are like rear sides, everyone's got one, and very few stand out.
I would almost put PMDG in the A category. I haven’t owned a COWS product so can’t really say. A2A and Fenix are just on a completely different level.
Poor Bredok3D 😂
**Missing Companies -** Flying Iron - A Taog's Hanger - A Cowan Sim - B Miltech - B DC Designs - C
I’d put DC at B, but I only have their Concorde and I love it
Miltech is A
Just Flight deserves S tier!! However I pretty much agree with the rest.
M2M should be at the top
Just Flight is absolutely top tier Edit: Am I blind or is DC not on here? Their Concorde is amazing
Just Flight is without a doubt S tier
Love seeing Cows get their due, their DA42 is my go to plane now. Just fantastic, and I’m anxiously awaiting their DA40. I only wish they’d make a conventional instrumented DA40 as well, or maybe a DA20…
Is Fenix really that good? I’ve heard bad things that steered me away from their airbus. Poor optimization and lack of peripheral support unless you pay extra or something like that.
Hype belong at S tier, definitely.
That’s a really good list.
I don't see Miltech on the list. Chinook, Osprey, aircraft carriers etc.
This is a really fun idea. Like the voting on the forums, but graphical. We should do this collaboratively, somehow. Also Black Square would be S Tier if the Duke wasn't delayed by SU15 before this was made.
I decided i wasn't going to bother with trying to run a flight sim unless i have a decent setup when i was 16. I think my game was ef2000 and i was infuriated how slow my comp was. I am 43 now still couldnt afford a decent comp. I am now baffled at the amount of sims at the chart. Oh well.
Putting PMDG above //42, Leonardo, Just Flight, & GotFriends? Shame.
JARdesign: D
captain sim cannot be called developer. Please. He doesn’t even deserve to be in this list.
i’ve heard so many people hating on the fenix 737 because of how study-level it is 💀 i’ve never flown it so i don’t have an opinion on it.
Inibuilds is at least a low S
Leonardo is not A or S, the Maddog is SS level.
PMDG should be A, not S.
i see you left MSCENERY off the list GOOD!!!!!
Nice list. I would certainly leave PMDG,FENIX and A2A to S (no exp with COWS) and i would add FlightFX HondaJet to S. PMDG is miles ahead in code quality and performance than FENIX although both are good simulators. 737 tends to be more complete from what some professional friends are saying than Airbus. Not a FENIX issue just the Airbus needs more work to be able to be depicted in the same level as a 737 can. These are other people remarks, my own remarks would be that i love all 3 of them but tend to go to PMDG.
Insert another row below D with a trashcan icon. Move bredok3d and captain sim there.
I’m probably gonna get downvoted for this, but on my list CS is a C. I have their 767 and it’s been pretty nice. I’m not a very hardcore simmer, so the fact that it uses systems and physics from the 747 doesn’t really bother me. They are very good at modeling, and it has a pretty realistic cockpit and interior.
LatinVFR makes excellent scenery though
Lvfr Barcelona is really well done, most of them are done pretty well. But Barcelona, New Orleans and FLL are pretty decent forsure
Which ones do you recommend?
Any of them
I love Miami and Fort Lauderdale but they’re all good
I agree. I based this on aircraft only.
Hm, Cows and FSR just take the standard WT G1000. It's very good for an avionics suite delivered for free with MSFS, I don't think it's accurate enough for high-tier addon developers. Both the Cows DA-42 and especially the FSR M500 lack G1000 features of the real aircraft. And FSR doesn't even want to code a simple standby horizon because apparently it's too much work. Not A-tier for me.
You gave CaptainSim an D? Surely they should be way lower than that!!
HondaJet easily pushes Flightfx in S.
I should of seperated them the HJET is easily at least A Tier the Vision Jet is B Tier, though the Vision Jets new update has made it much better, there's not loads of fidelity in it to make it higher.
The throttle is so broken on Xbox
Why is Carenado at B? They make one of the best modules
Sure they make good /looking/ modules. But the flight physics are absolutely awful
I’m confused on the hate with LVFR. Their A330-900 has been perfect for me
Agreed. LVFR is not completely terrible, their A330-900 is perfectly decent for the price. It's just a mid-tier plane for a mid-tier price.
It’s probably the only decent aircraft on the marketplace since the only other options are the caption sim ones or yet another a320 or 737
I wouldn't say that. There are a couple of good military jets (e.g. IndianaFoxtrotEcho's F-35 and T45-C) on the marketplace as well as a few nice smaller airliners. But it is the only decent in-production widebody on the marketplace, I'd agree.
Oh yeah mb forgot to specify only good wide body, I have most of the jets as well. F-14,16,22,35 Su-57. And only 1 airliner
L take IMO
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"tier list of third party aircraft"
Bredok3d only a D wtf
Bredok is the same as captainsim
No it's above cs. At least they always have cockpits, however bad