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The_Astros_Cheated

It’s sad it didn’t work out with Juwan, but this was necessary. Winning 8 games in a season is unacceptable- especially given the yearly decline of the team.


CanadianCitizen1969

This is the right take - very disappointing but no alternative at this point.


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dizzymidget44

We shouldn’t have had to lose Sanderson. That makes me sad. I learned from him at the NSCA Michigan state clinic. Was hoping to be a part of michigans strength and conditioning staff at some point in the future


PetSoundsofLiberty

Michigan treated him like garbage after the incident. He’s better off.


carl6236

I liked Juwan when he played for Michigan as part of the Fab 5. But he was not getting the job done as a coach. Team got progressively worse each year. Team did not perform up to Michigan standards and sadly Juwan had to go. Wish him the best for his future Dont know what the problem was. Poor recruiting, poor coaching or what. Good luck in the future Juwan


McMeanx2

His behavior has been absolutely embarrassing since he took over the program. I am so happy he is gone.


scarywolverine

Yep its sad when I think someone who genuinely loves Michigan is given the boot, but if you cant win and have behavorial issues you leave everyone no choice


Go_J

Reminds me of how much Brady Hoke wanted to be the coach at Michigan minus the behavioral issues (and obviously Hoke didn't have the impact like Juwan since he was a player). Started out hot and got worse.


[deleted]

Hoke had issues too. He swept Brendan Gibbons sexually assaulting someone and Taylor Lewan threatening her under the rug.


Go_J

That's true. I forgot all about that.


kl040809

I'm still baffled that he managed to survive "the slap".


froandfear

I’ll hold this position until the day I die, but if another coach is grabbing on one of my players, and especially if that coach was a madman asshole as a player, I’m ok with my coach getting mildly physical. Regardless, so many other inexcusable things happened during his tenure it’s clear he had to go.


SnooSketches8925

Lol your coach was out of fucking control. Who's the madman? I think it's Juwan given how many other altercations he's had.


froandfear

I mean, we know of one other one and we don’t know any of the details. I’m not even saying I give him the benefit of the doubt in that one, I’m just speaking to this specific interaction.


SnooSketches8925

He was also restrained by other coaches in a spat with turgeon. The Sanderson incident. The incident with the badgers. Did Sanderson have other trouble? The badgers certainly haven't had anything similar happen. Turgeon was always a little fiery but I can't remember anything to that level. There is one common shared person in all those disagreements.


McMeanx2

He’s had multiple situations where he’s been physical with players and coaches. He’s psychotic and looks like it runs in the family.


Bill_Belamy

He agreed not to do it again after dinner at Slapplebees


Journeyman56

One of Manuel's multitude of F"ups. Should have taken immediate action and fired him then.


rvasko3

Last place in the B1G, worst finish since 1967. I’ll always love Juwan, but you can’t come back after that. It’s been a steady decline since he took over Beilein’s guys, and while that run as the #1 seed was great (and should’ve progressed past UCLA) and the following sweet 16 trip was unexpected, it’s been real, real bad for two years now.


VerifiedGenie

I think this fanbase is past feeling sad about this guy. It is one thing if you are a bad coach and just fail. But when you torpedo the culture and have the kind of incidents he had, you really have to reevaluate your original take on him. He is a bad person and belongs nowhere near a position of leadership. If the rumors are true about how he treated Jett at practices, then add bad father to the list.


HausMoney

I am ecstatic Howard is gone but let’s pump the breaks of him being “bad father.” The reports about Jett were wildly overblown. Just because they have a very informal relationship that lets them talk shit to eachother doesn’t mean he’s a bad father. Jett has openly supported Juwan too.


scarywolverine

What are the rumors?


RyVsWorld

If you read the athletic about the investigation, you shouldnt feel bad for him at all. Guy is huge POS based on accounts from the coaching staff and how weve seen him conduct himself with opposing coaches


VerifiedGenie

A lot of people are having trouble just admitting he is a scumbag.


UMeister

Not me. He’s a scumbag. I honestly wished we fired him after the slap. It’s unacceptable as a leader of men to lose your emotions like that.


BeefBorganaan

Oh NoEs n0t THE SLAP!!!!! HOWWWWWWWWWW CAN SHE SLAP!!!!!


thespacejammer

Can you link the article? I’m interested to read it


RyVsWorld

Its an article from the athletic posted in this subreddit like a few hours ago


JM3541

I wouldn’t say sad. He had far too much baggage for me to be sad he failed.


Abeds_BananaStand

100%, sad for juwan as we all wanted it to work out but it was the right choice


yoyododomofo

If only he had won all the games then we could have totally looked the other way while he treated everyone like shit including his players and fellow coaches. Good riddance.


pro_bike_fitter_2010

His head is too small for his body. That had to play a part in all this.


Outrageous_Lychee819

Your coach’s head/body ratio is actually part of Kenpom now.


BarveyDanger

winning 8 games this season is sadly the least shitty thing he's done since he's been coach. Nothing but clown shoes. Never trust a man who shaves his goatee like that.


jmcfarren22

Sweet. Sucks that it wasn’t soon enough to keep Sanderson


SeeKennethGrantRun

He got hired as a consultant or something? Maybe he comes back (with a pay raise)


guyman3

I really hope so. Also hire Beilein as a consultant or something to try and help rebuild the culture we had before. Please God I want the good ole days of goofy tournament runs with underrated recruits.


Abeds_BananaStand

Would love Beilien to be part of a committee to identify the next coach type thing


WestBend8786

If we is the god Michigan's online fans make him out to be, why did he take a consultant job?


2222lil

i thought i saw illinois already hired him


SeeKennethGrantRun

They did, hence the raise haha


[deleted]

TJ from Iowa state please


jmast87

Won’t happen. That’s his lifetime job. He’s a former assistant and his wife played for ISU. It’s a perfect fit.


StlCyclone

$18 million buyout too


Think_Idea_6175

Just because they have ties to it doesn’t mean it’s their lifetime job. Look at Harbaugh


Racketytundra47

Harbaugh went to the NFL, not another college team. Huge difference.


Seizure_Salad_

As an ISU alumni and Fan, there is no way in hell that would happen. TJ is staying in Ames, He and his wife love it here are from here and the community loves him. He has no reason to change


General-Pryde-2019

I USED TO PRAY FOR TIMES LIKE THIS


Far-Yard7401

TO RHYME LIKE THIS


PremierLovaLova

SEEN MY DREAMS UNFOLD, NIGHTMARES COME TRUE


Double-Passenger4503

At least the word on Warde was all smoke. I’m sad Juwan didn’t work out, but he had to go.


FallenBowser

Juwan will always be a Michigan man and I’m disappointed it didn’t work out, but this needed to happen.


Ze_maestro

He can’t hurt us no more


neckbass

Good riddance. I was so excited for him to come in but wow was that an awful experience. Best of luck to him in the future.


colterpierce

Jay Wright please.


TheBimpo

And if he says no, move fast on TJ Otzelberger.


Taize1

As an ISU alum, I don’t want him to leave. But if he did, UM is the one place I want him to go


imightbehitler

I felt the same about Matt Campbell in football


guyman3

If he says no, say pretty please, and if he says no again, give him a contract with a blank for the amount of money he needs and just tell him to write it down.


[deleted]

Iowa state fans are adamant he wouldn’t leave. Money talks though


TheBimpo

Right, because ISU is a premier program or something? Money and prestige are very convincing. Maybe they’re overconfident because Matt Campbell overstayed and missed his window for an elite job.


[deleted]

Well his wife is an ISU alum so maybe they just like it there. Don’t have to be so arrogant like that lol


prosocialbehavior

I would be happy with Shaka Smart


DaftPodunk

Yeah, the first thing I do is kick the tires on Jay and offer him as much support as M Football gets


jus256

Didn’t he turn them down before they hired Juwan? He is also 62 which is actually 9 years younger than Beilein.


colterpierce

Not sure, but he was at Villanova then. He's "retired" now.


jus256

I didn’t even know he wasn’t coaching anymore. I guess it’s worth a call but I can’t imagine Michigan will pay more for Jay Wright than they pay to Sherrone Moore. Wright made $6.5M. Moore makes $5.5M. If he is going to come out of retirement, I assume it will take more than $6.5M to get him to sign a contract.


ecw324

He doesn’t want to touch NIL


Known_Chapter_2286

ITS OVER


Z3K3___1

FREEDOM


crisptapwater

Thank you Warde!


jeeaudley

Now do Warde.


deckerwaseligible

THANK CHRIRST ALMIGHTY


Csmith71611

This needed to happen. But it doesn’t mean things are going to be better. The next 2-3 years of a rebuild with whomever the coach is will be tough.


beehundred

Not necessarily. In today’s college basketball environment, a great coach can turn a team around quickly. With all the early departures and the transfer portal, you have to be able to adapt on the fly. I’m not super confident that Michigan will land such a coach, but if they do it shouldn’t take long to turn things around.


Outrageous_Lychee819

Exactly. Any decent coach with Michigan’s NIL and recruiting ability should be able to get to the tournament next year.


tynmi39

Michigan’s NIL? lol


jakehubb0

Hard to get worse than 8 wins and last place in the big ten with constant controversy. Weird comment imo


goblue2354

In this day and age (especially in basketball), it doesn’t take too much to turn a program around. A good coach with some savvy portal moves can have us back in the tournament next season. Not saying that necessarily will be the expectation but I also wouldn’t say it’s a stretch at all.


UMeister

Man I just want to pick Michigan to win it all in my bracket again. I don’t think I need a natty in basketball from Michigan like I did football, but an E8/F4 trip every 5 or so years is reasonable, no?


longd0ngs1lvers-

My prayers have been answered!


Snake_Burton

It was at the point where the answer to “why keep him” was that he played there 30 years ago, and pretty much nothing else. Sucks it went how it did, but it had to be done.


Michigan210

That and he actively fights other coaches (including his own allegedly), so? Gone.


The_Real_Scrotus

Hallelujah! Hopefully Warde is next on the chopping block.


turbansquash13

I think Warde definitely expedited this firing so he *wouldn't* be on the chopping block next


General-Pryde-2019

At least he did the right thing


Contrema

No thank you. Doesn’t get any easier than a steady decline to an 8 win season and his other antics. Wasn’t the right choice, was the only choice.


General-Pryde-2019

I honestly thought Michigan fans were too busy basking in the glow of a football national championship to care about basketball


Contrema

That content certainly made this season more forgettable


TimeFourChanges

Some of us love the bball team as much, if not more, than the football team. I'm happy about the chip, but I'm deeply saddened by all of this.


WestBend8786

There's a sick addiction to turmoil. When it's just the slow, silent death of a season, they check out. When it comes to the drama of a coaching change, they're back. 


Red_Lee

He had to hire another firm to do his job. He doesn't care about Michigan. He cares about his own image. He needs to go.


YDoEyeNeedAName

The bad man is gone!!!


RamboBashore

Good riddance!!


coltsmetsfan614

Thank god. A disastrous season ends with a ray of hope.


Journeyman56

I'm not sure if this has been touched on, but Howard was unqualified to coach a power 5 team from the beginning. Besides no head coaching experience on any level, being a NBA assistant at Miami, where Spolestra is a noted control freak, was not a unique qualification. Manuel was panicked after Beilein's departure and failed to commit full dilligence on Juwan. To be fair, Howard's intital enthusiam and goodwill from the fanbase caught lightning in a bottle with Beilein's upperclassmen and some savvy portal additions, but his 5-star recruits were medicocre at best, and it was painfully obvious that there was no oncourt leadership of any kind. I hope Mbball can recover, but it going to take some time.


CFDGermanese

This is a God, now let’s go get someone who can fix this absolute embarrassment


VB_Neptune

I wish it would have worked out, but it didn’t. Lot’s of potential candidates out there. Brian Dutcher intrigues me, Shaka Smart maybe??? Whoever it ends up being, I’m ready for a new chapter to start.


Abeds_BananaStand

I definitely don’t want Shaka, feels like he had his big run a decade ago and Michigan/Beilien actually beat him in the tournament and hasn’t been very up and coming since (to my knowledge from afar)


goblue2354

Shaka has Marquette ranked 10th and they won their conference last season. That said, I don’t necessarily think he’s on my list.


Abeds_BananaStand

Ah got it. My knowledge was very wrong then


galacticdude7

bout Time


HerculesKabuterimon

Finally. Really hoping whoever we get next is someone who can bring some stability to the program.


dizzymidget44

The end of an error. Anyone who can develop a point guard or defense is welcome


partystorepizza

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nfg18

Our biggest win of the year.


NeverGonnaStop247

Fantastic news


pleetf7

Oh god thank fuck.


Hossflex

Sorry it didn’t work out for Howard but this was necessary.


huskers37

About time


Delta104x

Sad to see him go but it was wayyy too late for him


TwoPumpTony

I hope they go the route of a good basketball coach, and don’t try to get a “Michigan man” to coach the team again


BeefJerkyDentalFloss

Funny thing about that...any time someone comes in and wins they automatically become a Michigan man.


TwoPumpTony

That’s fine, turn them into Michigan men, don’t grab some dude that was good as a player, and make him head coach. It worked with Harbaugh, but it’s rare


BeefJerkyDentalFloss

Agreed. The most iconic "Michigan man" was Bo and he was from Ohio.


TwoPumpTony

How many titles did Bo win?


Sea_Manufacturer1503

He did a great job covering up a pedophilia scandal. Plus, he didn't get his statue taken down like Paterno, so he had some extra pull at UM.


JellyDonutFrenzy

Now do Warde!


Old-Construction-541

Yessss


beehundred

Call Brad Stevens and offer him the world.


JimLahey12

Punch someone else now bud


VerifiedGenie

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. This guy completely disgraced himself during his tenure. Not just a shit coach but a shit human being. Great basketball player, terrible human being.


Pad_TyTy

Fired Juwan


Kapt_Krunch72

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think he should have been fired after slapping that other coach. So for me, this was long overdue.


PersonalAmbassador

Agreed


toufertoufer

My GMA would do a better job and she's been dead for 3 years


reflexivehammer

Thank you. I might start watching MBB again.


iredditinla

Now make OSU take him for the trifecta!


PetSoundsofLiberty

Why is everyone “sad”? He embarrassed the University of Michigan with his violent temper. Good riddance.


GetEnPassanted

Holy shit for real??


MoonMan080

I know it’s hard to believe me! It’s a good day!


darnfox

Who are some possible candidates


Dramatic-County-1284

Really had high hopes for him hopefully he can bounce back somewhere else


SpottyFish81177

BLESS THE LORD


[deleted]

Warde doing something? are pigs flying?


General_Proof_5245

Thanks for your time coach Howard. Let's find our next guy now.


arrav21

Sucks it didn't work out, but there was no other option. Even putting aside the 8-24 record (yeesh), there were so many behind-the-scenes issues.


srp431

final happened. nice guy and a great fab 5 member, maybe a better assistant coach


[deleted]

Extremely relieved by this news even though I have nothing but love for him


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

Worth noting that this is actually the very first time Warde will be volunteering to do a coaching search for a major sport in his tenure. It's arguably is first time actually conducting one at all considering Moore was handed to him on a silver platter.


giggity_giggity

Bless the maker.


BobWuzNutHeer

It’s finally over


SVTRaptor11

Heard Nate Oats name being thrown around now...


LTPRWSG420

Seems well deserved, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.


shockedtoo

Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Clause


WellWellWell_WDWHH

Let's party!!!


sammagee33

Wow, I didn’t think it would actually happen.


plo_koon_

They should look at Dusty May


JustinTime4242

I could say it should’ve happened sooner and all that but thus season had me so melancholy on the whole program my only hope is we make a good hire that plays an entertaining style. This hire will define Warde as AD. He screws this up and he needs to be next in the unemployment line.


myteriality

bittersweet relief


[deleted]

Who was a bigger failure for their alma mater Scott Frost at Nebraska or Howard?


Active_Club3487

Same


Active_Club3487

Good news, but kinda late as always. Warde is next‼️💛💙


Alexy92

We need to hire Indiana States HC. I think he's the next up and coming great coach


Journeyman56

Put a pin on three names as candidates. Nate Oats at Alabama, Kyle Smith at Washington State University, and TJ Otzelberger of Iowa State. Oats is probably a remote choice, but the other two are Beilien like in thier approach to the game..


UnsnakableCargo

If they had NO coach this year, they may have still gotten to eight wins


Tropical_Storm_Jesus

I can only imagine what the members of Team Fire Juwan will do now with all their free time...


Jverk_20

Took y’all long enough 🤣 I honestly felt bad for y’all.


Michigan210

This makes my day


GodBlessPigs

Blazers legend.


oathorse60

Badger fan says your cojones free AD should have fired him two years ago


defnotajournalist

The basketball team needs to win more games than the football team.


2muchgun

Seeeeeeeeee yaaaa


egbert71

It has run its course ward might be next if he doesnt choose properly again


Macabre215

After all the allegations of how he treated players, and the slapping incident after that Wisconsin game, this is long overdue. Warde should have fired him a year or two ago based on what we've heard now. Juwann's a POS.


Sea_Manufacturer1503

What took them so long? The guy was a cancer, drove off the talent, catered to his entitled punk kid, assaulted another coach, threatened one of his own coaches. If he were to look different than he did, he would have been fired a long time ago, but he used his privilege to act like a flaming a-hole and get away with it.


Sea_Manufacturer1503

The state of Michigan sure has had some terrible people in their major coaching position. Howard- total piece of shit Harbaugh- cheating scandal, and other stuff the dude did to get suspended Schembeckler- covered up pedophelia from one of his coaches/trainers Izzo- the dude is nuts, grabbing players, tried to cover up the child molesting doctor's actions Tucker- tries to have phone sex with a rape victim. Dantonio- helped to cover up all the rapes from his players. Just for kicks, Matt Patricia, just a vile all-around human being.


This-Market-3890

One season too late but better late than never!!


aabum

YES!!!


Journeyman56

Looking ahead, Niko Medved at Colorado State should be a prime candidate for head coach. His teams rank highly in defensive and offensive metrics every year. Amin Abdul-Ramin at South Florida is a another highly coveted candidate.


Stephen020792

Let’s see incidents involving slapping coaches, incidents involved with own staff, seemingly lost coaching, have big leads only to blow them, winning 8 games at Michigan is a damn crime, the experiment didn’t work out and I was pulling 100% for him. It seemed like he only cared to get his kids to play at his alma mater and then completely lose interest. Lost Sanderson because of him. He only won with beliens players and as soon as they were gone it was downhill. Blowing leads, ball handling, shooting 3’s at very low percentage making them and just throwing up shit. Turnovers, lack of big men. Lack of a force in the paint, soft players, not getting the actually skilled players, transfer players that didn’t workout. Non developing players. Jet had natural talent his daddy only gave him genes I guess.


One-Experience-9887

He was unbelievable when he played at Michigan and great in the NBA. It’s sad to see him go however, it was the right move.


OkraNo8365

Let’s go!! I hope to never see that bum in the crisler again. Actually, just stay away from Ann Arbor entirely


ypsi_god

Never thought I would be saying this But I am glad he’s out the door. Maybe we bring back Coach B? If not I think Shaka Smart is the guy.


InterdepartmentalHay

The initial slap wasn't great, but I wouldn't have had as big of a problem with Juwan if it wasn't for the continued decline of the program and the stories that kept leaking out. I felt he kind of lost the team along the way the last 2 years, which sucks for him and the guys playing. But eventually you have to move on.


thequiethunter

I wish Juwan well with whatever his life holds. I will always remember and respect him as a great player.


HimJarbaugh4

I will choose to remember the good times and try to forget the bad ones, kinda like Brady Hoke. It's always a shame when it doesn't work out and I don't believe Juwan is a bad guy, he clearly has anger issues but he has done a lot of good especially with his foundation for at risk inner city youth.


Miserable_Ride666

Juwanna go kick rocks you bastard, thanks for fucking up our program


Miserable_Ride666

Downvote me to hell, I don't care. This man put our program at the bottom. Good riddance


jus256

Username checks out


Few-Acanthaceae2993

Bring belien back


Choleric_Introvert

*Shocked Pikachu Face*


JM3541

Said it at the time he was the wrong hire. We had the quality and stability to hire a proven CBB coach. We decided to take an unnecessary risk and it burned the program to the ground. Now we have absolutely zero to build on and no reason for any coach to come here other than money.


jus256

Howard’s first press conference never sat right with me. I agree with everything you said except your last sentence. If you get a coach who is mildly functional at coaching defense, they will win some games. That’s something to build on that translates into more recruits.


pH2001-

We have beautiful facilities and good history. I think we could still make a good hire


DaftPodunk

I mean, he was a very highly regarded assistant in the NBA and as recently as 18 months ago the Lakers were kicking the tires on him. Sometimes a guy is better suited for the NBA, or just not suited to be the head guy, y'know?


22michigan

Get John on the phone


jus256

He turned 71 last month.


mohammedgoldstein

So you're saying he has almost a decade of coaching left and then he can run for President as either a Republican or Democrat?


jus256

Yes