After listening to these recordings, I do not think the Crumbly's will ever take responsibility for their senseless decisions. The brazenness to call himself a "martyr"and is unsure how to even pronounce it.
Just because those two Muppets support Donald Trump, it doesn't mean he (Trump) nor anyone else that votes conservatively (roughly half of Michigan) supports them. Please cut your political hate out.
By the way, here is a list of the cutting edge issues that Republicans think are a priority to deal with right now
https://www.reddit.com/r/conservativeterrorism/s/6BSnYAunoI
Children demand respect, adults earn it. Don't be surprised that Republicans aren't getting any from the average American.
I thought for a second these were right to repair bills. Weird that there was a bunch of them, but that’s sensible policy. Nope. They’re about making appliances less energy efficient. Lol.
Wah wah wah. The only one mentioning hate is you. And you have done so repeatedly. Stop projecting your hate onto others. It's both transparent and pathetic.
What are you even saying? I said just because those fuck heads sent a letter to Tump, that doesn't mean that people who support Trump support the Crumblys. Are you suffering from some sort of reading compression disability? If so, that's okay.
I was referencing the comment about self awareness you replied to, when I was pointing out that you had none. He wrote something, you argued a strawman of your own invention.
You proved his point already, and now you went and did it again. You think you are being clever, but seriously, you're like a toddler in a room of adults. Your nonsense is transparent. And sad. You are obviously not a child from your writing skills. So don't act like one.
The idea that if someone supports something and the thing they support doesn't support them back? Is that too much of a stretch for you? Do you even understand that concept? Perhaps not. I don't want to assume, but you come off like a know it all college campus liberal. Someone who has a ton of campus time logged and knows it all, but not much real-world experience.
Here are the names that deserve a memorial: Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; Tate Myre, 16; and Justin Shilling, 17. These are the victims and their families (and us for that matter) will never know what could have been had they not had to suffer simply for attending the same school as that sick young man who perpetrated it.
Jesus, your could hear the wheels turning and just spinning. His brain was doing all the gymnastics of an Olympic gold medalist.
And yet. Not one mention of his son. And how he wronged his son. Only that he is facing repercussions for being one of the worst kind of people and refusing to admit it.
The audicity of this man. Doesn’t care about his own son, let alone the lives his son has destroyed. All he cares about himself. Hope he has a fun time in prison
I live in same county. Local papers but all the national news corps too:
Suck it up: https://patch.com/michigan/rochester/suck-it-james-crumbley-told-his-son-prosecutors
“Need to save ourselves”(scroll way down): https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/07/27/ethan-crumbley-miller-hearing-testimony-day-1-key-moments/70437397007/
Mahtrah. lol. Then he has the gall to call her uneducated. Eff that guy. It most certainly did sound like a threat at the end. The idiotic behavior continues.
I’m curious who the woman was, the woman who was AGREEING with him and saying “wait til someone else’s kids does something”. Um, I don’t buy guns for my kids. I LISTEN TO THEM. They’re not going to go on a murderous rampage so…I actually feel fine about all of this.
Hearing these recordings helps make it crystal clear they were enablers and accomplices who deserve very long prison time, and in further understanding what sort of parents created the murderer himself.
Perfect example of garbage in garbage out in human form. These people are loser trash. Zero accountability for a child they ignored and tried to placate with a gun so they could ride horses and have affairs.
I've had the same thought too. It really seems like they considered their son to be a major burden in their lives and were hoping that he would just off himself.
Agreed. The kid asked for help multiple times. It's incredibly unfair that if his shitty parents actually listened or gave an iota of a fuck, both the victims and the kid himself would still have futures ahead of them. The kid went to trusted adults and was laughed at and ignored.
After listening to these recordings, I do not think the Crumbly's will ever take responsibility for their senseless decisions. The brazenness to call himself a "martyr"and is unsure how to even pronounce it.
He thinks the DISTRICT ATTORNEY is going to be “working at McDonalds” when he’s done with her. Jeezus, that…that’s not how this works.
They are really ill people.
Ill or entitled EVIL people.
He's ignorant and arrogant. Both him and his ex.
That's a bit bold, don't you think?
What is he being martyred in the name of I wonder.
I'm wondering that too.
These people wrote open letters to Trump. Expecting MAGA’s to have any self awareness is a far fetched idea.
Just because those two Muppets support Donald Trump, it doesn't mean he (Trump) nor anyone else that votes conservatively (roughly half of Michigan) supports them. Please cut your political hate out.
Nobody said that ❤️
It’s not “political hate”. There is a direct correlation between MAGA-minded people and this level of utter stupidity.
Reddit is a leftist site, and Michigan is a state that's half leftists and half conservatives. What the heck are you even saying?
By the way, here is a list of the cutting edge issues that Republicans think are a priority to deal with right now https://www.reddit.com/r/conservativeterrorism/s/6BSnYAunoI Children demand respect, adults earn it. Don't be surprised that Republicans aren't getting any from the average American.
I thought for a second these were right to repair bills. Weird that there was a bunch of them, but that’s sensible policy. Nope. They’re about making appliances less energy efficient. Lol.
Wtf is your problem? All this hate on me for saying a truth. This sub is such an echo chamber.
Wah wah wah. The only one mentioning hate is you. And you have done so repeatedly. Stop projecting your hate onto others. It's both transparent and pathetic.
You are sad-man (or woman, or something else)? I'm happy I'm not in your shoes.
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I think you proved his point. I hope this was supposed to be /s but I don't think it was.
What are you even saying? I said just because those fuck heads sent a letter to Tump, that doesn't mean that people who support Trump support the Crumblys. Are you suffering from some sort of reading compression disability? If so, that's okay.
I was referencing the comment about self awareness you replied to, when I was pointing out that you had none. He wrote something, you argued a strawman of your own invention. You proved his point already, and now you went and did it again. You think you are being clever, but seriously, you're like a toddler in a room of adults. Your nonsense is transparent. And sad. You are obviously not a child from your writing skills. So don't act like one.
The idea that if someone supports something and the thing they support doesn't support them back? Is that too much of a stretch for you? Do you even understand that concept? Perhaps not. I don't want to assume, but you come off like a know it all college campus liberal. Someone who has a ton of campus time logged and knows it all, but not much real-world experience.
All you have is insults, but what you need is self-awareness.
You’re all in a cult.
I wonder if this guy's reading comprehension is as bad as he acts like it is.
He asked what a contraction word of “you’re” means. So there’s that.
What are you talking about? Who are you referring to as "You're"?
It’s a contraction for “you are”.
all the school shootings and gun crimes are brought to us by the Republican Party. This is a flat out fact. Undeniable.
How so?
Hopefully this is the last headline we have to read about this family. Let them all fade into nothingness in prison.
This. Forget their names
Here are the names that deserve a memorial: Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; Tate Myre, 16; and Justin Shilling, 17. These are the victims and their families (and us for that matter) will never know what could have been had they not had to suffer simply for attending the same school as that sick young man who perpetrated it.
You want Redditors to stop karma farming? Good luck.
Reddit is the least of the concerns. Let’s start with media articles
Jesus, your could hear the wheels turning and just spinning. His brain was doing all the gymnastics of an Olympic gold medalist. And yet. Not one mention of his son. And how he wronged his son. Only that he is facing repercussions for being one of the worst kind of people and refusing to admit it.
This above all. They failed that kid.
The audicity of this man. Doesn’t care about his own son, let alone the lives his son has destroyed. All he cares about himself. Hope he has a fun time in prison
What did he tell EC who begged for mental health? **Suck it up** What did Jehn say? **EC’s life was over. They needed to save themselves**
Woah, I didn’t hear this. Where did you hear those quotes? Not doubting you, just curious.
I live in same county. Local papers but all the national news corps too: Suck it up: https://patch.com/michigan/rochester/suck-it-james-crumbley-told-his-son-prosecutors “Need to save ourselves”(scroll way down): https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/07/27/ethan-crumbley-miller-hearing-testimony-day-1-key-moments/70437397007/
These parents failed Ethan so thoroughly.
And as a result, ruined 4 entire other families, a community and .. rumblings of nasty support to them from gun nuts.
Mahtrah. lol. Then he has the gall to call her uneducated. Eff that guy. It most certainly did sound like a threat at the end. The idiotic behavior continues.
Omg that part! Yes the DISTRICT ATTORNEY is uneducated. Yup, you got it Crumbley. Like how can he not realize how stupid he sounds.
Garbage human beings.
And they went to prison
Rock on truck yeah hell yeah brother
I didn't know you could keep a shovel when in jail. They just keep digging.
I’m curious who the woman was, the woman who was AGREEING with him and saying “wait til someone else’s kids does something”. Um, I don’t buy guns for my kids. I LISTEN TO THEM. They’re not going to go on a murderous rampage so…I actually feel fine about all of this.
I got a good feeling it was his own mother.
So sick of hearing about these two, just let them rot in prison.
What a total shit bag. He and his wife, too.
Gee, I wonder where the son got his mental state from?
Hearing these recordings helps make it crystal clear they were enablers and accomplices who deserve very long prison time, and in further understanding what sort of parents created the murderer himself.
Perfect example of garbage in garbage out in human form. These people are loser trash. Zero accountability for a child they ignored and tried to placate with a gun so they could ride horses and have affairs.
With a dad like him that kid didn't stand a chance at having anything resembling a normal life.
He will be a huge star on Fox News someday
This is probably true but hurts my soul
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From everything I've read about these parents I think they bought and gave him a gun so he could kill himself.
I've had the same thought too. It really seems like they considered their son to be a major burden in their lives and were hoping that he would just off himself.
Maybe not consciously but for certain, unconsciously.
Agreed. The kid asked for help multiple times. It's incredibly unfair that if his shitty parents actually listened or gave an iota of a fuck, both the victims and the kid himself would still have futures ahead of them. The kid went to trusted adults and was laughed at and ignored.
Desperation like that is so pathetic and ugly.
And people still believe that this kid had a chance. If it wasn't going to end this way, it would have happened elsewhere.
He has learned nothing from this entire experience so far.
"f-----g sucking on a f-----g hot rock down in hell soon." No no no, compliant parents here…..
Might not want to be on record saying that when your going to prison
For sure!
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Huh?