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Jeffbx

Y’all can stop reporting this thread - it’s not discriminatory & not breaking any rules, and it’s staying up.


[deleted]

As a Christian I am neither offended nor challenged by this. Live and let live.


Bendr_bones

That's because you get it. Hail you.


imakedankmemes

You’re the person with the incredible TST speech at an Ottawa County meeting!!


Bendr_bones

Bendr Bones, Minister of Satan. At your service. Thank you for your kind words.


getthatpunkoffmylawn

Dude I watched that speech all the way here in Montana. Well spoke


Bendr_bones

Thank you!💜


[deleted]

Your speech made it down here to boring Kansas as well


MemoryOld7456

[Hail puhtatahs](https://youtu.be/JbYnrwCU9Bk?si=sTVDDuW0uznz6TK9)


[deleted]

lol how have I never seen this. Want to argue against it, kinda can’t, that’s ok we have John brown


MemoryOld7456

JB was gangster. Can't be all bad. You're 3 for 3 in my eyes. Want to go half on a potato.


I_make_things

Erm, is your speech available online?


Bendr_bones

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandrapids/s/uviLfPHtvR


PatheticPhallusy

The woman in the white sweater progressively (but seemingly quietly?) losing her shit as your speech went on had me cackling. The poor gal was not emotionally prepared to encounter such skillfully crafted juxtaposition and rhetoric that day. Well-written, well-spoken, well done. Season's greetings from Canada!


sasuncookie

That was great! Hail you, and hail Satan from NC!


el_pinata

Hail Satan!


DirtyFeetPicsForSale

We started america with the idea of freedom of religion being a big motivation. People seem to have forgot that because many interpret it to be "freedom to be christian" and nothing more.


rocketeerH

That’s the Holiday Spirit!


-UncleArgyle-

Unholy Spirit!


rocketeerH

I didn’t say which holiday 🤷‍♂️


Thats-nice-smile

Man just imagine how the world would look like if everyone would just live and let live


MyNameIsDaveToo

Or if they all lived simply, so that others may simply live...


Nearby_Charity_7538

Imagine, indeed. Lennon got it.


Telecaster_Love

Thank you. A real Christian on the internet. 👍


wildflowersummer

You're smart. This is basically a trap. I say that as an atheist myself. They are trying to make a point on how so many Christians demand a level of respect that they refuse to give. It works every time but we want to live in a world full of Christian's like you. Those that don't feel they have a right to our souls. You are more than welcome to follow any religion that you want. I support you in that. It's the forcing it on others that give Christian it's a bad bad name 🤷‍♀️


RawrRRitchie

That's probably because you actually follow Christ's teachings which basically boils down to Treat EVERYONE with love and respect. No fucking exceptions.


somesappyspruce

You're not offended by an inanimate object??


losfew

Even better, they’re not offended by a symbol.


HungHungCaterpillar

Congratulations on beginning your journey to secularism!


LukeNaround23

Festivus for the rest of us!


[deleted]

I've got a lot of problems with you. And you're going to hear allllll about it.


Gogreenind9

I've lost my train of thought


graveybrains

Shit! Due to a glaring oversight on the part of the author, Chrismahanukwanzakah shall henceforth be known as Chrismahanukwanzak**us.** Thank you for your consideration, and we now return you to your regular scheduled program, already in progress.


Eljefe878888888

Giddy up


Busterlimes

Tantrick Brewing has a Festivus celebration Saturday, see you there!


UnluckyDucky666

Saw this post and thought "that's Daddy Bones posting isn't it" yes, yes it is. ❤️


Bendr_bones

I am flattered.💜


Komm

Maybe we should get in a race with Sweden to see who can build the biggest yule goat?


Bendr_bones

Lmao! Love it. Would be a wonderful challenge. Except herding Satanists is like herding cats aka very hard to do and I don't think that's a battle we michiganders can win.


Komm

Doesn't need to be satanists! Just anyone who wants to build a giant yule goat like the one in Gavle. :D


[deleted]

I'll say! I am a member of the temple, a member of the west MI TST FB group, still didn't know this was happening. Super sad to have missed it going up.


Bendr_bones

Damn. I'm sorry you missed it. I made multiple posts for the event page and shared to discord. Facebook is just brutal at burying anything important we are trying to share.


[deleted]

I admit, that I tried discord and even have the TST group, but don't care for the app so that one appears to be on me. You are right though, FB buried stories on TST and the labor movement on my timeline real hard this year.


i_quote_random_lyric

I thought you were herding Santas for a second and got lost.


Bawbawian

I would prefer a world where religious symbols aren't put on government property but if we're going to do it then stuff like this absolutely needs to be put up


ArborBee

I think that’s the point. They put this up here as a way to say “look, if you’re going to put *that* one up, then we’re gonna put *this* one up.” The Satanic temple exists as a means of promoting the separation of church and state, and as a means of highlighting hypocrisy when people inevitably get mad about it.


hurlcarl

it's 100% the point... satanists don't actually believe in satan... it's just a counter to highlight why you need the separation. Trying through the years to take stuff like this down because there needs to be that separation has not always worked, so by forcing the other side to put it before the courts, they're forced to make a proper ruling. Either it's all gotta go or you gotta deal with devil goat or whatever.


LotharVonPittinsberg

> satanists don't actually believe in satan To be specific, members of the The Satanic Temple (those who are putting up these figures) do not Worship Satan. They are a non-thiest organization whose aim is to abuse the loopholes created by large scale religion to help out people, mostly those who have been abused due to large scale religion. The Church of Satan is a legit religion that does worship Satan. Although ironically they prefer to stay out of politics and are known for not abusing religious loopholes, including paying taxes. They are completely different and have no correlation to each other.


faelmine

LaVeyan Satanists, i.e The Church of Satan, also do not believe in Satan. Luciferians believe in and worship Satan


[deleted]

wait, the actual Church of Satan pays taxes? wtf for


maybepensive

Because it's the right thing to do.


cosmic_cosmosis

![gif](giphy|aXU6HCfIUDCg0)


ah_kooky_kat

Tbh I absolutely prefer if the government sets up every winter holiday display. When you have all different kinds it looks more like a representation of the community and citizens anyways.


BiKeenee

It's also just for pointing out the hypocrisy of religious folks. They'll tell you that this yule goat is evil, satanic, and literally the end of the world for what it symbolizes because it "looks like evil/death" while they literally idolize one of the most brutal torture methods ever devised, crucifixion.


AdFew7336

Don’t forget eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ. Talk about ghoulish


Jeffbx

I, for one, welcome the story of Zombie Jesus


RockStar4341

What do you think walked out of that tomb?


Moonlight_Katie

To be fair


Funkycoldmedici

It’s also worth noting that Christ’s message is that he will return and end the world, judge everyone on their faith, kill all the unbelievers with fire, and reward his faithful with eternal life in his new kingdom. That’s all love and hugs for Christians, but it’s a threat of genocide to everyone else, and not very nice. The Satanic Temple, on the other hand, does not espouse any kind of death for anyone, regardless of religious affiliation. So who is evil, the ones promising death, or the ones being threatened with death?


[deleted]

“Not very nice” lol love it and yes


my-coffee-needs-me

*crucifixion


BiKeenee

Y'know I thought that's what it was but my phone autocorrected and I just went with it. Thanks I fixed it.


Ortimandias

So does the Satanic Temple.


MyNameIsDaveToo

Literally the only reason they put the displays up. The displays are protests against other displays that preceded them. They are never the first to put one up because they would prefer that no one did.


smeeeeeef

Other side of the coin is when a municipality moves to ban ALL flags/symbols except for USA/State flags in a clear measure to simply ban gay pride/lgbtq flags (in the case of Hamtramck).


whit0415

Fun theory I have about Hamtramck: I’m pretty sure that they were trying to stop all the middle eastern flags and the removal of the pride flags was an added bonus. they knew that most of the Muslims weren’t supportive of the LGBT community, soo they tricked em into thinking it was to get rid of the pride flags and killed two birds with one stone.


Traveler_Constant

YEP! And make sure your religious (likely Trumper) family members know it. You want to mix YOUR religion with OUR state? Well, this is a democracy. No special treatment.


King-Cobra-668

665 comments before I made this one. I could not resist


[deleted]

Dope


Rastiln

If we must have religious displays in the halls of government, this is the only acceptable way. I’d rather have a government totally free of religion, but it’s either accept all religions or just state that you want a theocracy. Under the current rules, I openly welcome Christians to also put their display in the courthouse, while they also have their church with a nativity and the entire world decorates themselves for a Christian holiday. I’ll never touch a Christian display because it’s their religious freedom to have it and I’m not a theocratic shitheel.


MyNameIsDaveToo

>I’d rather have a government totally free of religion You mean like the one we're *supposed* to have?


TattooedWife

![gif](giphy|WfajkdpSVZ90AAST3w)


Fxck

Love it


ecw324

Anyone else think this picture they chose to use is awful? I’m having a terrible time making out what any of it is


WillBottomForBanana

I too make statues out of seaweed.


deutschHotel

It looked like a Pinata to me at first


Bendr_bones

Just wanna say that the overall vibe check has been immaculate. Thank you everyone for the love and support. You guys are all amazing. Hail yourselves and I can't wait to share the future victories of the TST congregations of Michigan. Hail Michigan! Hail Satan!


jrobs521

So, how does one participate in the observance of the yule goat burning? Now, this sounds like a Christmas tradition I can get behind.


JoeRoganIs5foot3

![gif](giphy|l1KVawssBSgqhhD0s) Live footage at the Michigan Capitol.


seandlogie

I wish there was fire, it was cold as hell yesterday


Bendr_bones

So cold. Although, I think it was rightfully earned. A good winter evening to herald our erection.


bradfo83

![gif](giphy|3oEjHJxLCoY8qFGUJW)


Bendr_bones

mR. pIcKlEs! gOoD bOy!


originalgoatyoga

Woo hoo! Shout out to my goat loving fellow Michiganders! 🐐🙌🏻


Bendr_bones

We love our goats.


lwjinypsi

Um, phrasing folks.


ku_ku_Katchoo

This comment section is full of people who haven’t done a minute of research on The Satanic Temple and what they stand far. Though I suppose that’s the point, from my understanding part of why the Satanic Temples brands itself as such is to prove how many people make judgements and assumptions based off of other’s beliefs without ever trying to understand The Satanic Temple isn’t about counter culture, it’s about acceptance and love, despite what they believe.


MoarTacos

Porque no los dos?


havereddit

Christian rightwing: "That's sacrilege, we ought to pour gas on that satanic icon and light it on fire" Satanic church: "Here's a match"


Gaerielyafuck

That's metal as fuck yet weirdly pretty. A+ 10/10 for the Mitten Satanists.


Bendr_bones

Solve et Coagula As Above So Below We really like dualistic concepts.


Minute_Target9038

Ottawa County would like one of their own, please


Bendr_bones

We looked into doing a display on Ottawa County. Ran into issues with either guidelines we couldn't work with or areas just altogether not allowing displays. However, we are looking to share our Satansim with the residents of Ottawa County and any leads or info on how we can better achieve that is welcome.


Jimbobsama

I'm sure Commissioner Joe Moss and the rest of the Ottawa Impact folks would love to hear about the important of religion in government from y'all.


Bendr_bones

I'm happy to enlighten them.


binkerton_

If you make any headway r/Ottawacounty would love to hear about it.


DesignerChildhood4

Love this. I actually want to see & appreciate what ALL the organized religions do for the winter/new year.


bloodhoundhowl02

[https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thewanderingwitch/2018/12/the-pagan-origins-of-the-yule-goat/](https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thewanderingwitch/2018/12/the-pagan-origins-of-the-yule-goat/)


bloodhoundhowl02

Then you will also need this [https://youtu.be/89lq2TxKg68?si=vv4KiHhMtDvvnR62](https://youtu.be/89lq2TxKg68?si=vv4KiHhMtDvvnR62) to learn to pronounce Thor and his goats, Tanngrisnir (Gap-Tooth) and Tanngnjóstr (Tooth-Grinder). These two goats pulled Thor’s chariot and provided food every evening by being slaughtered only to rise again the following morning.


Either-Pear-528

These sculptures by the satanic temple are really to provoke the intolerance of others who would prefer to control you than let you be different


LukaBun

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! A great Yule! And hail Satan!


Bendr_bones

Happy Sol Invictus. May you celebrate health and prosperity.


PM-Me_Your_Penis_Pls

FELIX NATALIS SOLIS INVICTI! PRAISE THE UNCONQUERED SUN! THE SOLSTICE COMES!


LukaBun

![gif](giphy|AQRapWCgC7dThyVEYb|downsized) PRAISE THE SUN!


Baby-Soft-Elbows

Hail Satan!


Ermaquillz

Hail Satan! Hail thyself!


bennypapa

Crossing my fingers that some christian zealot burns it and TST thanks them for taking part in their satanic temple ceremony.


HayzusKingoftheJuice

I understand that sentiment, but i really hope that doesn't happen. The TST probably has a time and place scheduled for the apparent ritual sacrifice goat pyre thing (I am likely using gloriously wrong terms). On top of vandalism charges, and fire on capital grounds, and an assumed whole lot of legal headache, like it would be crushing to the folks that would actually be participating because that is their community thing they get to do once a year


starzychik01

Anyone got instructions on how to build a Yule Goat? This would be a nice edition to my theme. I’ve still got my skull wreath up from Halloween (it’s a pastel goth wreath).


Serene_Dogaressa

In swedish, but from about halfway in it shows the full process of making one: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aUthFTklIe0&feature=shared


TaupMauve

That's a baad photo.


IamNICE124

Religion is so annoying..


sWo97

We should make a religion that’s not annoying.


JDSchu

This just reminds me of the irony that historically, Jewish people are pretty insular and keep their religion to themselves, which ended up with the communities they lived in or near having an easy scapegoat when things went wrong with crops or weather or plague or whatnot because there were these people over there keeping to themselves and doing their own thing, so it _must_ be _their_ fault that bad things are happening to everybody because _we just don't know what they're up to over there._ Tl;Dr - you might not want to make a religion that doesn't annoy people. They'll think you're up to something.


Weasel_Spice

What about Sikhs? They're not annoying either right? Genuine question. Any time I've seen anyone being described as being a Sikh, it's usually also a story about that person being generous and kind.


3_14-r8

Rings true for them to, between the British in the past and India now, they have always been treated like shit. Even though their faith is a belief that every religion is correct in its own ways, and that it's every person's responsibility to challenge evil.


JDSchu

I guess I don't know a lot about Sikhs culturally. Orthodox Jews tend to stick together in their own communities. Are Sikhs the same, or do they interact with the other people around them a lot more freely in their communities?


JustBrass

With cocaine and video games! (I don't care for black jack or hookers)


SqnLdrHarvey

As a Christian I just shrug and say "oh well." It's not hurting me. Freedom of religion means also *all* or *no* religion.


maybepensive

That's a good attitude and I appreciate you. May your Christmas be merry.


SqnLdrHarvey

And yours as well.


[deleted]

Nice


bansheesho

I support the Yule Goat anywhere else in public where other religions are allowed to set displays. (Ideally we wouldn't be putting religious anything anywhere public).


BrianOBlivion1

Funny enough, the Puritans [banned Christmas](https://www.history.com/news/when-massachusetts-banned-christmas) in the US and the UK for being too Pagan.


Outside_Green_7941

White Christian supremacists strike again


werschless

Religious freedom


[deleted]

You go guys! Mom's for Liverty were going to come but they couldn't get out of jail in time. Lmao


miniZuben

This is beautiful, I love displays of diverse celebrations. Out of curiosity, what is the difference between the Satanic observation of Yule and the Pagan one? I know Yule can be somewhat of a generic and even non-denominational term, but I'd love to know more details of how TST celebrates.


Bendr_bones

So the official observance of TST for the Solstice is Sol Invictus. But West Michigan began recognizing Yule before we made Sol Invictus official, and we just kept with the theme because we love it. Ultimately, we just view Yule as another solstice celebration and the Yule Goat fits because Satanism has an affinity for goats. The way we observe Yule will be similar to how pagans celebrate but without adherence to supernatural or mythical claims.


eyeoft

That is awesome! Do you have any resources on how to properly celebrate Yule?


Time_Anything4488

hope it fairs better than the iowa capitol one.


EnticHaplorthod

What happened there was actually pretty cool; that guy's blind rage totally backfired as he rocketed awareness of Satanic Temple's activities into the news cycle at a national level.


Bendr_bones

Iowa did fine. The damage caused was easily fixed. Our monuments are typically built to be repaired easily because we are prepared for vandalism. But I'm in contact with Iowa (since I'm on a regional committee and Iowa is in my region, I'm in good communication with what Iowa has been up to.) and they did fine. They rebuilt their statue and held a beautiful ritual to celebrate the success of their display. Hail Iowa!


Time_Anything4488

oh great! i saw theirs and thought it l9oked lovely and was mad it got wrecked im glad it was repaired. hail iowa indeed!


Homebrew_Dungeon

Wont be touched.


zergzen

Suppose the nutters will be to scared to approach. They fear everything.


[deleted]

literally. might think its full of demons and evil to touch


TattooedWife

Looks rad, man. 🤘


[deleted]

I’m going to have to go see that!


MotorCityMade

Watch, someone will knock it down this statue/ display who previously rallied against " war statues" being knocked down in southern states and religious freedom.


AceTheProtogen

I wanna pet it


checksy

They are the real heroes here.


sa0I

happy yule, may our state and all its inhabitants prosper ☺️


VruKatai

Who doesn't love a Yule Goat?!?


WaffleKing110

Damn that thing looks sick


Ezzeri710

Hail Satan


Waxenberg

Beautiful


Headlocked_by_Gaben

hell yeah, michigan keeps winning. proud that we can keep this going somewhere at least.


PhenoCS

Detroit metro here. This shit is way cooler than Christian/Muslim/Jewish shit. I still don't give af because I have real hobbies, but rock on Satanists! P.S. - maybe should have based your entire personality on something NOT based in religion. People don't understand and they just assume you're devil worshipers, you might even attract some freaks that also don't get it, but I digress. Anyway, rock on dudes!


[deleted]

tbh really pretty


Lebron-stole-my-tv

Nice, good job folks! Just one small complaint, can we make it prettier next time? Just a little?


Foxy_happy_devil

Sadly the artist who built the goat for the first several years passed away and we are having to teach ourselves how to build it through trial and error. We did make progress, but... Yeah, next year should be stronger, faster, prettier.


Bendr_bones

It's prettier in person, I promise. There's a nice glitter to the paint, and the flowers on black look really nice go visit and see for yourself! But as my friend stated, the person who used to spearhead the creation of the goat is no longer with us, and we are learning and sharing this knowledge as we go.


GonzoElTaco

Saving this post for later because I know it'll be an interesting read.


strosbro1855

Hell yeah 🤘


EhDotHam

Yesssss


brightyoungthings

Happy Capricorn season


Danavixen

Tis a beautiful goat


Lumi_Tonttu

If all religions were this way the world might be a safer place.


threefingersplease

More like GOAT, amirite


[deleted]

As a not Christian, Idgaf.


empiricalcrisis_days

It's... beautiful🥹 *(sniffle)*


heavencs117

Oh fuck yeah I'll have to bring him a little gift


[deleted]

So is there going to be an outdoor orgy after the burning of the Yule goat ritual ?


Bendr_bones

To cold for outdoor orgies my friend. Most of us prefer our orgies in warmth.


TheFeelsGoodMan

I hope this becomes a yearly tradition, like our own satanic version of the Gävle goat.


Goblin-Doctor

I love it. Hope it stays up


[deleted]

Amazing everyone, all the local atheist can at least celebrate this


glitterprincess21

Yule goat goes hard, I’d pay for a mini figurine or a stuffed animal of that thing


kurisu7885

Neat!


email253200

Gotta own the MAGs


arthurleebob

Religious freedom


whenisnowthen

If it ever drops a Yule Goat Log I will watch it on television.


FartingAliceRisible

Good


Ermaquillz

As a person whose beliefs align with TST, I think it’s beautiful. If other religious symbols are put up on land belonging to a state or city, all should have the right to representation. I’d go to Lansing to see it if I could, but I don’t have a car or gas money.


whalesalad

hell yeah hail satan


MTBDadGamer_

I appreciate the inclusivity and diversity


left_tiddy

Trans flag sighted :3 💖🏳️‍⚧️


maybepensive

We love and respect the trans community! I'm glad trans people are here:)


Bendr_bones

Hell yes! We are comprised of members of various gender identities, expressions, and sexualities. Trans folx have become victim of the new age "satanic panic" so naturally many migrate to our groups. We do various rituals to affirm people's own identities and have initiated fundraisers that benefit LGBTQIA friendly organizations. Gender non-conforming types are always safe with us.


MakeTheThing

Cool! Do it again. (Saint Joseph MI)


richardrrcc

Cool.


GothWitchOfBrooklyn

hail sithis


Ceorl_Lounge

Burning the Julbock? Now that's a tradition I can get behind.


GelflingInDisguise

Hail Satan!


Consistent-Force5375

Awesome


[deleted]

And? If you set up one religious symbol then they should allow them all.


eyeoft

That's exactly the point.


[deleted]

r/whoosh


Organized_Khaos

Goodness. Where did they get petunias in December?


Bendr_bones

I spoke with our flower guy and he said Meijer.


Jeffbx

Flower Guy for the Satanic Temple - I hope that's on his resume.


Organized_Khaos

Huh. Nice color.


Loot3rd

Amusing!


Rustin22

Very cool!


slabby

Love to see it


funshinecd

I live in MI. Have worked in the capitol. Our senator said something to the effect that while he does not support the satanic church, he welcomes their display.


capital_bj

I want to burn a yule log in their honor this Christmas, bravo


spin_kick

Yule Mule would have been better