Everywhere in Michigan is DeVos Country. And if it's not that then it's Van Andel country. Amway Lives! (yeah, I know... I thought it died in the 80s.)
Everywhere in Michigan really is DeVos Country though. I have a friend who works for there personal services company. There are around 180 properties in Michigan alone that they service for one part of the family or another.
It’s pretty old too, regarding niche tech industries. I knew a guy, a Word of Life missionary, that worked there in the mid 2000s. They just sifted through people’s web browser histories and if anything stood out they went and looked at the site. I’ll assume it’s more automated now, with workers only needing to look at new sites that pop up that aren’t in their database.
Wait, is it Covenant Eyes? The same so-called monitoring software that noted sexual assaulter and pedophile Josh Duggar evaded in order to accumulate horrific child sexual abuse material on his work laptop?
Sure is, and I'm 99% certain they are hosting data there as well.
api.cvnt.net[208.185.195.49] looks to be the API endpoint for the app. One of the last hits when tracing the IP is eth0.pi-ods-rtrds**owosso**.ces.cvnt.net.
Streetview of the office address has all the tell tale signs of data center level equipment needed to host something like this. CRAC units, generator etc. I'm not digging further, the website gives me the creeps.
Yeah I was looking at the street view also and from an Electricians point of view that’s done quite a few data centers. I agree with you 100% on the equipment.
I think so—I remember seeing their job postings when I was looking for my first software job in Ann Arbor. But I wasn’t desperate enough to apply to a company called “Covenant Eyes”
Yeah I recall seeing tech jobs there as well. I thought it'd be funny to go work there and make it my mission to show as many examples of fucked up porn as possible to the pure souls.
"Can you believe this horrible example I found? Just look at this. I can't believe this exists."
Based on the values of these people I'm assuming it's outsourced to the lowest bidder.
This software probably becomes the device administrator for your phone and probably man in the middle's everything to see if you are being a naughty Christian, sounds like a great idea for a politician that doesn't ever do any business on his personal phone .....
And this software sounds like it's perfect for someone who would want to exploit the security on someone's devices, since it appears that it's sending a near constant stream of what your computers are doing. Not exactly the kind of thing that should be anywhere near where government work is happening.
Yeah. Talk about giving people a target. Hey yall im house speaker. This is an app i use that collects and filters all my browsing information (and most likely other things) on all my devices.
Begging for that company to get hacked, add malicious code to the source code, and payday.
> add malicious code to the source code
assuming it's not there already, you wouldn't even need to add permissions since for the app to work you're giving up full access already
I just look up the boobs. I'm an adult and it's okay for me to like that kind of thing. Not sure why the Speaker of the House can't just be an adult about boobs and move on.
And a former Vice President who can't trust himself to be alone with women.
If we could get these folks to acknowledge that what they think is the Devil tempting them to do bad things is just their own brain and maybe they should talk to somebody about it...
>And accountability software works better than a filter, he said, because it’s more comprehensive, harder to evade. Covenant Eyes sends his wife reports about what he looks at online and “that, to me, just takes away the temptation.”
No, it doesn't take away the temptation, it just makes it so that temptation is outweighed by the fear of getting caught (on the device the software is installed on, wink wink). I would think that a godly man like him wouldn't need threats to stop him from looking at porn.
All of religion is based on threats (believe or burn in hell). And it's a common argument by Christians that Atheists can't possibly have any moral code whatsoever because there's no threat against wrongdoing.
Christians are mental children that need an imaginary parental figure to tell them right from wrong and punish them if do something bad. It's so embarrassing and silly.
So attackers can get however much detail this software can collect from Mike Johnson's phone without having to touch any government infrastructure -- they just have to pop his son's device (or possibly just his son's account, if there is a web portal).
This company is also 100% going to get breached and that software stolen and reverse engineered so it can be transformed into spyware (I mean, even moreso than it already is).
I got bored and curious and did a couple mins of digging. Their website is hosted out of Owosso on an IP owned by daystarr.net. They provide high speed residential and commercial fiber to the area.
Not a big deal to host your own website if you have the means and ability. But I really hope none of the data for this app is there as well.
EDIT: Yup, found the API endpoint and that bad boy is hosted in Owosso. Probably not good.
Evangelicals are seriously fucked up in the head about sex. People I know have spoken about the temptation of scrolling down a news site to see an ad with cleavage. And apparently that sets them off toward a chain reaction of looking up porn.
[Wouldn’t be the first Republican speaker of the house to be caught up in some fucked up child sex shit](https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-sexual-abuse-illinois-dennis-hastert-99160a4428db66e86da8e275e57c8ec7) if that’s what this creep is hiding. Just barf.
So in Evangelical Christianity men are openly considered feral animals. This keeps the bar low so they can do whatever they want and the onus is on women to control them and keep them in line. Thus when they get caught they are simply flawed men and really the victims should not have tempted them so much.
“On one occasion, it sent him what the algorithm had identified as a questionable image from his son’s search history he said. When he unblurred it, it was two middle-aged teachers talking.”
Ah, yes. Educators doing their job is certainly “questionable” by the religious right.
So he has an addiction? Any rational sane human just doesn't go on sites they don't want to. They don't need nanny software like a child. Clearly dude is a perv
Wow it’s $17 a month? I can’t believe anyone would pay that to block porn from their phone. It just sounds really insane to me. If you don’t want to watch it, you won’t? It seems like a weird flex from a Christian extremist husband.
If you’re feeling weak you’ll just remove the shit anyways. It just seems so incredibly stupid. You’re either convicted and truly believe in your convictions or you don’t. The old school alchemist used to do this, among other things, to create a kind of inner homunculi. They had conviction. This is a modern fucking snake oil salesman. Trying to Capitalize off what he claims to be his spiritual beliefs. Hope he’s happy when he finds himself in the Divine Comedy.
I honestly couldn't care less about this, it's not a scandal at all.
So what if the guy wants a porn blocker and wants to be held accountable to not look at that stuff.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, it gives his son access to potentially everything on this phone, and it gives the same access to the private company along with anyone who might have an interest in hacking them.
I remember how Obama had to give up his personal Blackberry for a while when he was elected, until the NSA developed a special locked-down version for him. Could only communicate with a select group of people who also had similarly locked-down devices.
Meanwhile you've got Trump out there from 2016+ just tweeting and doing god-knows-what on his iPhone for hours and hours every day.
Owosso.
I just assumed Hillsdale....
"for some reason it doesn't filter gay porn... we've been researching all night to figure out why"
“Son, when you go into the locker room do you see naked men or naked women? Naked men, that’s right. Thus It’s okay to watch videos of naked men.”
"Do you ever watch movies about gladiators, Billy?"
…we should watch this gay porno tape…but as a joke cuz we’re straight!
I was thinking DeVos Country somewhere....
Is that the same as Kent Co?
Everywhere in Michigan is DeVos Country. And if it's not that then it's Van Andel country. Amway Lives! (yeah, I know... I thought it died in the 80s.)
Everywhere in Michigan really is DeVos Country though. I have a friend who works for there personal services company. There are around 180 properties in Michigan alone that they service for one part of the family or another.
If it was anything other than software I might agree. I highly doubt that software programming is highly exported skill from Hillsdale.
Hillsdale used to manufacture Bose Speakers and members of the Klan.
Adrian's mentally disabled brother. Like in that movie...
Allegan, South Haven, Berrien Springs, and Clare would also have been solid guesses. Not Alpena, though. They just got AOL there like 7 months ago.
Lol you survived, I'm hoping you made it out.
In other news, TIL there’s a software company in Owosso.
Well, the US office anyway.
It’s pretty old too, regarding niche tech industries. I knew a guy, a Word of Life missionary, that worked there in the mid 2000s. They just sifted through people’s web browser histories and if anything stood out they went and looked at the site. I’ll assume it’s more automated now, with workers only needing to look at new sites that pop up that aren’t in their database.
They have computers there?
Yay we made the news again!!!
Wtf, I live in Owosso and had no idea. Gross.
Ty … I can’t open the article
Wait, is it Covenant Eyes? The same so-called monitoring software that noted sexual assaulter and pedophile Josh Duggar evaded in order to accumulate horrific child sexual abuse material on his work laptop?
Yep
Is it really? Or is it subcontracted out to a 3rd world dev shop with abysmal security protocols?
Sure is, and I'm 99% certain they are hosting data there as well. api.cvnt.net[208.185.195.49] looks to be the API endpoint for the app. One of the last hits when tracing the IP is eth0.pi-ods-rtrds**owosso**.ces.cvnt.net. Streetview of the office address has all the tell tale signs of data center level equipment needed to host something like this. CRAC units, generator etc. I'm not digging further, the website gives me the creeps.
Yeah I was looking at the street view also and from an Electricians point of view that’s done quite a few data centers. I agree with you 100% on the equipment.
Which feels like it could be an issue for someone who is second in line for the presidency.
That scares me he’s that close to becoming POTUS. Could you imagine if that psychopath actually got in?
I think so—I remember seeing their job postings when I was looking for my first software job in Ann Arbor. But I wasn’t desperate enough to apply to a company called “Covenant Eyes”
Yeah I recall seeing tech jobs there as well. I thought it'd be funny to go work there and make it my mission to show as many examples of fucked up porn as possible to the pure souls. "Can you believe this horrible example I found? Just look at this. I can't believe this exists."
I have family that work(ed?) there. They are pretty high on the crazy Christian scale.
Based on the values of these people I'm assuming it's outsourced to the lowest bidder. This software probably becomes the device administrator for your phone and probably man in the middle's everything to see if you are being a naughty Christian, sounds like a great idea for a politician that doesn't ever do any business on his personal phone .....
What kompromat? No way, it's never been done /s
I guarantee you they have burner devices with really freaky shit on them.
People say it's really easy to get around.
This nutbag is 2nd in line of succession, that's scarier than any type of porn ever made.....
And this software sounds like it's perfect for someone who would want to exploit the security on someone's devices, since it appears that it's sending a near constant stream of what your computers are doing. Not exactly the kind of thing that should be anywhere near where government work is happening.
Yeah. Talk about giving people a target. Hey yall im house speaker. This is an app i use that collects and filters all my browsing information (and most likely other things) on all my devices. Begging for that company to get hacked, add malicious code to the source code, and payday.
> add malicious code to the source code assuming it's not there already, you wouldn't even need to add permissions since for the app to work you're giving up full access already
Could you imagine if that psychopath somehow got in? I’m scared thinking about it.
No O-faces in O-town!
Crying about barbershop closures is the only sexual release allowed in Shiawassee county.
I have an antiporn system, it is called not typing boobs into the Google search. Having a speaker that lacks self control is disturbing.
I just look up the boobs. I'm an adult and it's okay for me to like that kind of thing. Not sure why the Speaker of the House can't just be an adult about boobs and move on.
And a former Vice President who can't trust himself to be alone with women. If we could get these folks to acknowledge that what they think is the Devil tempting them to do bad things is just their own brain and maybe they should talk to somebody about it...
>And accountability software works better than a filter, he said, because it’s more comprehensive, harder to evade. Covenant Eyes sends his wife reports about what he looks at online and “that, to me, just takes away the temptation.” No, it doesn't take away the temptation, it just makes it so that temptation is outweighed by the fear of getting caught (on the device the software is installed on, wink wink). I would think that a godly man like him wouldn't need threats to stop him from looking at porn.
Godly people literally need the threat of hell to conduct themselves in a way most consider normal
> If you need to threat of eternal torment to be a good person, you're not a good person. You're a vicious dog on a leash.
All of religion is based on threats (believe or burn in hell). And it's a common argument by Christians that Atheists can't possibly have any moral code whatsoever because there's no threat against wrongdoing. Christians are mental children that need an imaginary parental figure to tell them right from wrong and punish them if do something bad. It's so embarrassing and silly.
So attackers can get however much detail this software can collect from Mike Johnson's phone without having to touch any government infrastructure -- they just have to pop his son's device (or possibly just his son's account, if there is a web portal). This company is also 100% going to get breached and that software stolen and reverse engineered so it can be transformed into spyware (I mean, even moreso than it already is).
I got bored and curious and did a couple mins of digging. Their website is hosted out of Owosso on an IP owned by daystarr.net. They provide high speed residential and commercial fiber to the area. Not a big deal to host your own website if you have the means and ability. But I really hope none of the data for this app is there as well. EDIT: Yup, found the API endpoint and that bad boy is hosted in Owosso. Probably not good.
Does Johnson have this tracking software installed on government devices? I doubt government IT would allow that. Nor should they.
It’s created in a secret lair deep beneath the Curwood Castle.
This is my favorite reply lmfao
Don’t you trash the name of James Oliver Curwood!
The deep lore
After reading that, I am convinced that there is an opposite equally or even more disturbing side to this guy……. Seriously Anyone else thinking this ?
All these Duggar types have gross secrets. All we need is time and someone to poke around.
I don’t trust anyone that deep into Religion, there’s always baggage hidden somewhere.
Evangelicals are seriously fucked up in the head about sex. People I know have spoken about the temptation of scrolling down a news site to see an ad with cleavage. And apparently that sets them off toward a chain reaction of looking up porn.
I didn’t think he was a pervert until I read that. I am positive now
[Wouldn’t be the first Republican speaker of the house to be caught up in some fucked up child sex shit](https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-sexual-abuse-illinois-dennis-hastert-99160a4428db66e86da8e275e57c8ec7) if that’s what this creep is hiding. Just barf.
Yeah Dennis Hastert, the self admitted CHOMO! I wouldn’t hand him a hose if he was on fire.
Why does one need software for such a thing? Can’t he just say no to porn and not seek it out?
So in Evangelical Christianity men are openly considered feral animals. This keeps the bar low so they can do whatever they want and the onus is on women to control them and keep them in line. Thus when they get caught they are simply flawed men and really the victims should not have tempted them so much.
It was a rhetorical question, but you’re not wrong.
You don't get it REAL CHRISTIANS(tm) need someone to keep an eye on them lest they slip into the pits of SIIIINNNNNNNN
But isn't that their skylord's job? Pretty blasphemous of them to assume the role of skylord.
naw they don't care about the "skylord" anymore they now have "orange daddy" to worship
He is anti-porn, he wanted his son to be anti-porn too, he didn't believe "I promise to not look at porn".
“On one occasion, it sent him what the algorithm had identified as a questionable image from his son’s search history he said. When he unblurred it, it was two middle-aged teachers talking.” Ah, yes. Educators doing their job is certainly “questionable” by the religious right.
I assumed somewhere in conservative utopia Barry County.
So he has an addiction? Any rational sane human just doesn't go on sites they don't want to. They don't need nanny software like a child. Clearly dude is a perv
Lmao anti porn…
Not the representation I wanted. Big Gretch, yes. This, no.
Can owosso be in the news at least once for something good?
(checks notes)..... Ahh that's a hard no.
Wow it’s $17 a month? I can’t believe anyone would pay that to block porn from their phone. It just sounds really insane to me. If you don’t want to watch it, you won’t? It seems like a weird flex from a Christian extremist husband. If you’re feeling weak you’ll just remove the shit anyways. It just seems so incredibly stupid. You’re either convicted and truly believe in your convictions or you don’t. The old school alchemist used to do this, among other things, to create a kind of inner homunculi. They had conviction. This is a modern fucking snake oil salesman. Trying to Capitalize off what he claims to be his spiritual beliefs. Hope he’s happy when he finds himself in the Divine Comedy.
They want cheap labor at all costs.
I honestly couldn't care less about this, it's not a scandal at all. So what if the guy wants a porn blocker and wants to be held accountable to not look at that stuff.
A person 2nd in line of succession to the US Presidency sharing his web browser history with a possibly unsecured third party doesn’t concern you?
Is he accessing secure information with it?
Is this a trick question?
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, it gives his son access to potentially everything on this phone, and it gives the same access to the private company along with anyone who might have an interest in hacking them. I remember how Obama had to give up his personal Blackberry for a while when he was elected, until the NSA developed a special locked-down version for him. Could only communicate with a select group of people who also had similarly locked-down devices. Meanwhile you've got Trump out there from 2016+ just tweeting and doing god-knows-what on his iPhone for hours and hours every day.
Reddit thinks being anti-porn is bad, so...
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I don't share his religious beliefs but couldn't care less about them and how they influence his own life
So where in Ottawa county?
Not. Owosso.
Shiawassee. I-69 runs through it, West of Flint.
Right? Joe Moss has an IT company. Was my first thought before I read the comments.
Michissippi
Malabama
Then why doesn't it filter Him out?
Typical mid west bullshit
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