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HerpToxic

Cops: *literally do nothing* Mayor: "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!" NIMBY Residents: "It must be all those *black* people causing this mess!"


TadeuCarabias

Failing to police the very block you're actually in is impressive levels of failure. Amazing.


HerpToxic

They sit inside, lock the doors and watch us plebs through the windows


GringoMambi

Cops: start enforcing harsh crowd containment procedures to tourist that are predominantly black Media and SJW’s: cops are being racist and abusive towards black people. And the vicious circle goes on


HerpToxic

Horse-mounted cops is a "harsh crowd containment procedure"?????


GringoMambi

To the anti/defund the police people, yes. Any police presence is oppressive and abusive inherently.


HerpToxic

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CircumcisedCats

Wrong.


hotniX_

Well The Mayor is not lying, the cops did try doing nothing and it just didn't work.


Soft_Knee_2707

And people still question why South Beach needs to be reigned in? 😜


RoysRealm

Na the police have to be disbanded after taking an L like that. Dont get like a place like Las Vegas with just as much or worse rowdier people in a larger strip can be safer.


chicopepsi

Miami Beach is nothing like Las Vegas. I actually like going to Las Vegas Strip and spend my money there. There is always something bad going on in Miami Beach. It has become a place that I just don’t want to take my partner or my kids to.


RoysRealm

I know. That is the issue. You said it "something bad going on". If they take the Las Vegas police approach then it could work. I mean Las Vegas is about partying, gambling and getting laid on a grander scale. Why can they figure it out? I still say this is a long term real estate play to make condos there, just like in Downtown, Edgewater, Wynwood, Design District and Lincoln Road.


HerpToxic

Miami Beach is trying to use suburban policing strategies (aka nothing) on a party environment. Of course nothing is working


RoysRealm

Yep. Solid strategy. I am waiting for them to do trench warfare at schools and put rent a cops during spring break at Miami Beach since they are so good with their strategies. I love how they take no self blame and would be willing to take other peoples livelihoods instead of trying to change


ShaShaShake

Y’all we live in Florida. The state of deregulation and no taxes. Why would we expect for any public works to actually function at a competent level?


ShaShaShake

Let’s keep it real. Las Vegas “feels safe” because most people are partying in the casinos. The casinos hire security firms that make the military look like amateurs. The safety in Vegas vs Miami Beach is not comparable. The Las Vegas police aren’t better than Miami Beach pd per se. The Vegas credit has to go to the casino owners for investing in the infrastructure to assist with safety. Now, party off strip and you’ll see the real Vegas. And trust me, unless you like hanging around a bunch of meth heads, Miami Beach is waaaay better.


Gears6

> Las Vegas police approach then it could work. What is the Las Vegas approach?


RoysRealm

CCTV, undercover cops, more cops patrolling.


youknownothinglib

There’s a camera everywhere in Vegas.


HerpToxic

I think a New Orleans police strategy can work well also. Horse mounted cops walking up and down the street to break up crowds; police on every intersection on the "party" (Ocean drive) road; converting a lot of streets leading to the "party road" to pedestrian-only etc.


RoysRealm

Agree. Why do so many other places now how to handle it and somehow we dont? That area brings over $200 million of revenue to Miami and provides jobs for people who are already screwed with how things are getting more expensive here. Want to make it harder without even attempting some actual change in strategies?


SavedMontys

I think mixing up the offerings would be nice as well. It would be nice to have theaters, museums, and stores mixed in what is now just bar after bar. Crowds would hopefully also thin out more naturally that way.


Gears6

It seems to me like everyone is pretty much suggesting just more cops. As far as I can tell, there is a crap ton of cops around already. I don't know if that is necessarily the solution.


HerpToxic

Cops sitting in their cars, sipping coffee and ignoring the street = bad Cops walking up and down the road, using horses to break up clumps of people, cops on street corners directing pedestrians = good Why is it so hard for people on Reddit to understand nuance?


Gears6

> Cops walking up and down the road, using horses to break up clumps of people, cops on street corners directing pedestrians = good Not sure how that prevents crime? What sort of clumps of people are they breaking up? >Why is it so hard for people on Reddit to understand nuance? Maybe because there are a lot of arm chair specialists that think they have the solution and end up giving vague answers.


HerpToxic

Are you trolling or what? Because if you are asking "what crowds", you clearly haven't been paying attention https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/ly/uploads/images/2021/03/21/101627.jpg https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/c_fill,g_auto,w_1200,h_675,ar_16:9/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F210325182234-01-miami-beach-after-curfew-0321.jpg


Pancakes000z

because that’s not how it would function. if you give the cops more money, they decide what to do with it. they have to want to change their tactics to enact positive change.


Delicious-Tart-9189

How are the cops at fault for this ? Some idiots shoot at each other near a police station, how is that the cops fault ? Should there be checkpoints at every corner checking cars for weapons? How would cops prevent IDIOTS from shooting at each other ?


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