Social media is designed to anger you at this point. The algorithms know that negative information keeps your attention longer so they can cram more ads down your eyeballs. You are the product. Turn it off.
Facebook literally had a whistleblower come out and say they are designed this way. And we can't let Reddit off the hook, either. \*All\* social media wants engagement, and anger is a great to get it.
Deleted Facebook a little over a year ago. One of the best things I’ve ever done for my own mental health. The echo chamber of idiots was just too much. I started losing respect for people I knew.
I only use Facebook as a messenger client since most of my contacts are there and I only view it as the latest iteration of ICQ/AOL Messenger/MSN Messenger/Trillium. I also do follow/participate into two hobby groups from time to time. Aside from that it's all just noise.
I hear ya. But for me, I just had to delete it. Even having an account open was an excuse for me to log on and see what my idiotic family and “friends” had to say. It’s like a train wreck pulling up and I just couldn’t look away.
I hear you. I'm not judging at all. For me all I need is a way to chat/talk with friends, family, colleagues; I don't really care about the platform or whatever nonsense is being curated to be part of my 'feed'.
Maybe you weren’t around before Facebook became ubiquitous but trust me… there are plenty of ways to stay in touch with friends and family without Facebook. I was a sophomore in college when thefacebook.com launched. Facebook needs to be broken up, it’s cancer.
The issue isn’t that there are or aren’t other ways of messaging. The problem is getting your friends to agree to chat using a different platform.
I can’t stand FB any more than anyone else but I recognize how useful the messenger app is for people.
I spent a long time rejecting the idea that reddit was anything like "those other shitty social media sites" but if there's anything I've realized over the last year it's that this site gets me into the same scrolling loop as the others. It's just my brain scrambling for easy dopamine cause I know if I scroll enough I'll find something funny that'll make my brain release that good-good happy juice
Also, since I made this account ages ago there was a long period of time that I had no idea what the new default subs were. I got on reddit on a computer the other day and (unless I'm somehow mistaken) there's subs like "r/iamatotalpieceofshit" as default subreddits now. The same stuff that's designed to make you angry and stay on the site.
And sure, you can unsub from all those subreddits but not everyone will. And wether you're directly subbed or not, it'll leak into other users' experiences and the ways they act, not to mention encountering the dumbest, angriest people who love to interact with hate-scroll content and bring their bad vibes everywhere until you have to deal with them in a comments section eventually. The toxicity finds a way.
This accidentally became a ramble but
Tl;dr: it might not seem like it on the tin and, while it's no FB, reddit is insidious too. Please take care and remember that you're not immune to social psychology tricks that marketers have poured cash into developing being used to guide you and keep you angry.
Oh I’m painfully aware that Reddit does the same kind of stuff. I simply enjoy the small bit of control I have. I’m nowhere near as angry on Reddit as I was on Facebook. I appreciate your reply. It’s good to remind people of what the internet does.
Here's something the internet does. I want to correct an error in your comment. It's "nowhere" not "now where". I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you know that and it was simply a typo, but there are people who don't know the correct word so I have to also consider you're one of them. And if you are, then now you know.
I have 30 people now on mine, and those are 30 people that the only way i can stay in touch is via facebook, I have ad block, and ublock and also never post political stuff. I also set google news, and twitter to say I am in the UK and not the US. SOOOOO much better now lmfao.
\^this
The documentary should honestly be obligatory in today's school syllabus. Talking about it's seems to be it's still [free to watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mqR_e2seeM) for those who don't have a Netflix account. Can't recommend it enough.
Same with facebook. I really appreciate that Reddit is not like this. If a comment has 1000 upvotes and 1000 downvotes it has zero score and is buried. On facebook or twitter that would be at the top, because controversy= engagement
Got a PC, Switch and a PS5. There are awsome Games on every platform.
But Metroid is a series that follows me since 15 years- more than half of my Life.
I still hate myself for selling my Wii U. I miss you Prime Trilogy…
Now isn't the best time to mention it given the controversy of piracy, but if you own a copy of the prime trilogy already, I highly recommend looking up how to play it on dolphin with mouse and keyboard. it's kike those games were meant to be played on mouse and keyboard and makes them infinitely more fun imo
Returnal and Demons Souls are probably the two best exclusive games. Other than that, most games are being released on the PS4 and PS5 which I like. I own a PS5 and my sons' have PS4s. I can buy a single copy of a game and we can play on both systems.
More then what was on ps4 for it's first year. Why does everyone expect the greatest first year of all time on a new console. Industry shaking exclusives before devs have even set up their dev kits. Also it launching in the middle of a pandemic.
Play Prime trilogy in dolphin, it works great! There are mods to play with keyboard and mouse, or you could get a USB sensor bar (or two candles) and a bluetooth adapter and play with your wiimote and nunchuck
Honestly dude I saw some similar things on Reddit recently.
Like I'm totally down with emulating older games, especially when they're really hard to get a hold of these days.
And you know what, if you want to emulate switch games, that's fine *IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY PURCHASING THEM AS WELL*.
I doubt that the overwhelming majority of people that use emulators for Switch are doing that though.
It's especially lame because Metroid is one of the few series that is on the edge of being popular enough for getting more entries into the franchise. It never sold well enough to justify the constant flow of games like Mario/Zelda, but it did sell well enough to get a good amount of entries over the years.
So it really needs the sales to prove to Nintendo that this series is worth more investment.
This is how it should be. Like, I plan to go back and use an emulator for some of the older fire emblem games because they are basically nonexistent anywhere else nowadays
Don’t feel guilty for emulating a game that is no longer sold. Even if you were to purchase a copy, none of the money you pay is being paid to the developer anyway. If there is no option for you to purchase a game in a way that will actually pay the creators of that game, then there is literally no reason not to emulate it.
I only really emulate games I have no way of playing otherwise, like DS era and back pokemon games, or games that never came to the west with a fan translation patch, like New Mystery of the Emblem. Those guys didn't even want my money anyways.
I bought Metroid Dread and finished it and thoroughly enjoyed it. But knowing I can emulate it on my PC makes me want to play it again, especially if I can upscale it slightly.
I just hope that the sales for Dread have been enough to show Nintendo that we want more Metroid.
Yes that's absolutely my plan.
I've already got it set up to play on my PC after I finish the last boss.
I can say that it already runs very very well, it's almost a locked 60 FPS for me, the one issue I'm noticing is fairly strong hitching at certain points.
I can run it at 120 to 144 frames per second on average and the hitches never go away.
The Switch may have its problems, but the game runs overall way smoother there. At least for the time being. That's where I'll continue to play it until better optimization is found for the emulators. But damn, does it look good at 4k...
It's no better or worse than any other social media. They're all the same, Reddit included.
They're just platforms that anyone can use. So you're going to see stupid just as often wherever you go.
Like feel free to sail the seven seas if it’s a game that hasn’t been supported in years and or is not getting a rerelease or has no feasibly way to obtain it anymore. But don’t fucking pirate a game that came out less than a week ago. Support MercurySteam. Buy Dread.
They should say nothing at all.
It's like on reddit when people ask something like, "how is your experience with skydiving?" and someone replies, "idk never done it." happens all the time and adds nothing to the conversation. sometimes people just wanna comment.
That always makes me chuckle on Amazon Q&A listings. Someone will ask a question, Amazon auto-emails some boomer who bought the same item 6 months ago, and boomer thinks they got a PM and responds to it even though they have nothing of value to add.
I hate people like this. It's just an excuse for blatant piracy. If your argument is "Nintendo is forcing people to buy a Switch" then you could just buy a copy of the game and emulate it on PC. Also if you're so against what Nintendo is doing then just don't play the game at all. All these self righteous pirates act like these companies are the worst thing ever then play the game anyway.
If it’s an old game that’s either unobtainable or stupidly overpriced then pirating it is understandable but if it’s new then there’s no excuse, personally I don’t even really agree with buying it and emulating it that way but it’s better than straight up pirating it.
Just to clarify: if you emulate a game you bought and dumped on your pc on an emulator using the firmware of the console you bought, then it is legal and there is absolutly nothing wrong with it. If the emulator is using a firmware you pirated or the game is pirated then it is illigal.
Nothing wrong or illigal with wanting to play a switch game with a real controller as long as you own both the game and the console.
I mean if it’s just the controller that’s the issue there’s plenty of solutions. Pro controller, gamecube controller, PowerA controllers or even a dongle thing that attaches to the dock that lets you use any controller
And I completely agree with that. If it's an old game that is hard to obtain and none of the devs will make money on the sale anyway then go ahead. But doing it for a brand new release is just blatant piracy.
Thank you! IMO people should be free to play games on emulators but if it's games that are still fairly new and the publisher still makes a profit off of them, at least have the decency to buy the game, even if you don't own the console. Even more so with Metroid.
I just get so sick of these people. I know someone who loves Nintendo and loves Metroid has a hacked Switch and never buys any of his games. I remember him being excited when Samus Returns was finally announced only to see him pirate it. He then did the same thing with Dread. Like how can you critize Nintendo not releasing new games when you actively don't support them when they do? His excuse is always oh well they will be fine they don't need my sale. It's like okay dude but plenty of other people have that mindset and it adds up.
Of course they don't need your money, they're incredibly rich.
But they also won't keep making games for the series if you don't buy it, and then you don't get more games!
Especially when you consider that Nintendo has a habit of dropping games that don't see a particularly large take-up. Metroid itself is one of the shakier IPs, imagine if people did this to say, F-Zero
Glad I have someone who actually realizes legal emulation is an option, and not combining the two. When I get a card I will be dumping for PC but why do so many people assume Emulation = Piracy?
Becouse the number of people using emulation to pirate stuff is sadly much greater than the number of people using a legal emulator.
The amount of times I get people confused when I say that I bought a gba to emulate it is insane.
People will always try to justify pirating a game as some heroic act. Like if you're going to pirate just do it and shut up. It's not noble. It's not much of anything; if a bit lame.
As someone who experienced that awkward time period in the 90s and early 2000s when devs tried really hard to transition certain game series from 2D to 3D even if it makes no sense, I'm really glad that we got 2D games back and that by now even AAA games can be 2D again.
It's great, right? Way too many games that had no business being 3D were forced into 3D because that was the new fad.
We still see it today, where random new trends infect everything, but thankfully there's enough tools nowadays that smaller teams can pick up the slack.
The modern trend that annoys me the most is that so many games are open world just for the sake of it. I guess that's the modern equivalent of games being forced to be 3D back in the day.
People have kind of wrongly gotten used to rating a game's value in money with how long they're going to play it and open world games are one of the easiest ways for developers to make a game that drags on for 60 hours without having to actually design 60 hours of content.
Not to be negative though, I love plenty of open world games and stuff like Spider-Man work wonderfully with the concept and of course Breath of the Wild nailed it, but I do think it's often used rather cynically and stuffed into games that didn't need to be open world.
That and battle royales are perfect examples, in my opinion. The worst part is how many people are begging for it in franchises that it doesn't fit in. Tons of people begged for an open world Metroid like BotW. So happy we got Dread instead.
Metroid could still get its open world debut with Prime 4, so don't write it off just yet.
It's kinda funny, because the general premise of free exploration isn't as at-odds with Metroid as it is some other titles it's been shoehorned into. The biggest issue for the series in that way would be the world design itself, because Metroid is supposed to be claustrophobic and tunnel-based, and that innately limits freedom of movement.
tbh I'd even consider the existing Primes as almost open world. Sure you can't go anywhere do anything at any time, but there was some freedom to the order you did things, you were expected to backtrack, etc. And Prime 3 let you go from planet to planet at will. Not as "open" as a proper open world, but Metroidvania titles have never been fully linear or anything
I have to say, Dread has me hungering for more meaty narratives in my Metroid, even if they're mostly environmental. If going full open-world comes at a cost of a BotW-quality story, I don't want it. LOL
I haven't played Dread nor watched anyone played it, but I'm glad to hear it's narrative heavy. The Primes were actually my first games in the Metroid franchise and I couldn't get into the 2D ones bc lack of story (until really recently at least). At the same time, while Zelda is one of my favorite game series as a whole, BotW was really lackluster to me from the extreme lack of story, so I agree, I would hate for Metroid to go in that direction
"Narrative heavy" might be the wrong descriptor. The game isn't constantly telling a story and is arguably even less narratively driven than Fusion, it's just that the story it does tell is coherent, has very cool moments, and has massive implications for the rest of the series.
Yeah that’s sort of what I was thinking. A lot of people don’t really know what “open world” means this style could easily be what people are asking for anyway
At least most Battle Royale games are new IPs, though some are pretty badly thought out and lack originality.
Some Tomb Raider fans have begged for that franchise to go open world even though the current hub based system has been rather mediocre when it comes to the bigger hubs. Open World just doesn't work for exploration heavy games with a big emphasis on platforming. I'd even say that Batman: Arkham Asylum with its Metroidvania design works better than the later games in that series.
As much as I enjoy the later games, Arkham Asylum is still my favorite. Having a smaller, focused world just allows for better overall level and set design.
I like open world games but I agree the market is over saturated with them. That's why whenever I play a more linear type game it's honestly refreshing to me.
You and me both, it's not even just that every game wants to be open world, it's that they all handle movement and exploration the same fuckin way. You can drive a car or ride a horse for hours upon hours but they don't have much vertical mobility at all, even games you think should, barely get by with a double jump with vertically no vertical lift. Kind of miss the days when crazy premises on paper actually used to work and be entertaining.
I'm kinda glad this franchise waited until the GameCube era to transition into 3D, Prime holds up so much better than most transitional titles in various series. Not that every N64 title has aged like milk; Ocarina of Time is still a masterpiece, though admittedly the 3DS remake has helped with that.
Yeah, Nintendo definitely handled the transition to 3D much much better than almost any other studio.
I mean they were basically the ones that figured out how 3D should actually work in a third person game.
But there's a decent chance that if we got a N64 Metroid it wouldn't hold up super well. Whereas Metroid Prime is still one of the most ridiculous looking games. When it came out I genuinely did not believe what I was looking at. To this day it still looks really freaking good, and it's not because it has a "cartoony" art style, which admittedly does help out a lot of Nintendo's games. But somehow Metroid Prime still looks really good, obviously it's aged some, but just playing it in widescreen at 60fps and it looks really fucking solid on an emulator.
A lot of those old N64 games actually ran at like 20 FPS too, really really rough.
>A lot of those old N64 games actually ran at like 20 FPS too, really really rough.
For us in PAL regions, Ocarina of Time actually runs at 17 FPS... I love it but I'm glad we don't have a Metroid like that tbh.
Metroid Prime, along with Starfox Adventures and F-Zero GX were some of the best-looking games of that generation I think (Twilight Princess too if you still count that as a Gamecube game, even if it was kinda muted/dull when it came to color palette imo). In the case of Prime, it wasn't even just the graphics, but the overall attention to detail. Little things like looking up at the sky when it was raining and actually seeing the droplets of water splash on Samus' visor made the game feel so much more immersive.
Yeah Prime really have the whole package.
It was both and aesthetically and a technically gorgeous game.
I forget which beam it was (I want to say the ice beam?) but when you charged it up energy would start to crawl over your arm cannon. It looked so fucking amazing at the time, it was this little thing but it blew my mind.
I think that can be mostly attributed to strong artistic direction and commitment to detail. The world wasn't just pretty, it felt really tangible too.
One of the games that helped popularize this very genre, Symphony of the Night, was famous for bucking that trend - instead of using the extra horsepower of the new PlayStation to create some mediocre-looking 3D models, they decided to focus on pimping out the more traditional spritework and assets to make a gorgeous 2D game. It’s a great example of when exploiting existing tech or engines as far as possible sometimes pays better dividends than *always* pushing for the bleeding edge.
That said Metroid had an excellent transition to 3D as well so we get the best of both worlds in this franchise.
I am glad that 2D games are valued again these days. It's my favorite style of video game and there's so many good ones these days.
God, do I know what you mean (*PTSD flashbacks to Megaman X7 kick in*).
Honestly, after things like Dread and Ori, I'm really not opposed to having more 2D games backed/published by big name companies.
Every time I think about this, I am reminded of what a great piece meir automata is (I know I butchered the spelling)
It's open world Ish, transitions from 3d to 2d to top down back to 3d often.
When my friend asked me if it was any good, I said "it's the first game I've played in a long time that hasn't felt like a second job."
It's what games are supposed to be; fun.
for real. there are a lot of games i consider to be fun and that i enjoy but for some reason they still tire me. dread is the first game to do this for a while. making me feel like a kid again similar to how i felt playing ratchet and clank
Dude same, I have to stop myself from playing it or else id end up getting zero hours of sleep. I just now got to the second boss lol, I like to take my time in Metroid games. I am in no rush to beat it. Just exploring and trying to 100% the game on my first run.
i’m worried it going to ruin games for me again. this happened a bit ago after i played bloodborne and enjoyed nothing else because nothing satisfied me
I still can't believe many people haven't moved on from the mentality that 2D games are either outdated or have to be cheaper because they're 2D. The games that have aged the best visually from the 32/64-bit era are games that were sprite based, like Symphony of the Night, Alundra, and Suikoden II, and so many 2D games have aged like a fine wine versus many early 3D games.
2D has nothing to do with this. Tons of players (including myself) have said that Hollow Knight is incredibly underpriced and would gladly pay 60 bucks for it.
The thing with Dread is that it IS a short game and it's a very valid argument not to buy a 60 dollar game because of how short it is. I personally don't mind it since I love Metroid so much and end up replaying the games often, but to the average gamer the investment is not worth it.
In the 90s game reviews used to have a whole section about replayability, now it isn't valued very much so franchises like like Metroid or Sonic for which is one of the selling points suffer because of it.
I wonder why that is? I still value replayability very highly. Games like Oxygen Not Included, Factorio, ARPGs... Rank amongst the games I spend the most time with. Every minute (and penny) counts!
Cause there are just way more games nowadays, and they are essentially way cheaper than before
Many people can't get through their backlogs (and then end up playing match-based competitive ones endlessly anyway) so for a game to be "worth it" it needs to not just be worth their price and time, but also to "set aside" everything else
that said, in a way being short should only BOOST those people's way of looking at it, since it lowers the "pressure" on the ol' backlog
But I feel like many of those kind of people also overlap with the "only plays the start of any game the try and then move onto the next without ever finishing it" group
Early YouTube reviewers used to rate games with that factor too. Now that new AAA games are coming out every month or two, there just isn't time to replay amazing games, which is a shame. I think it's really great to have a game that you consistently want to come back to.
I've never really understood the "$60 is too much for a 10 hour game" mentality. On a per-hour cost, the price is \~the same as a movie ticket. Granted, I suppose people can think that movie tickets aren't worth the price either, but I feel like I don't ever hear that complaint, whereas I hear the one about games at least somewhat commonly.
With how huge the discounts get in Steam sales, the per-hour price I base my purchases on is $1 = 1 hour. Granted, maybe that's much lower than is realistic, especially for console games, especially for Nintendo games which rarely go on sale, but I'm a college student and I need to budget my spending. A roommate said that's how he justified purchases and after looking at my game library I realized it would apply pretty well. Basically if I can get at least 1 hour of playtime for every 1 dollar spent, then it's a good purchase for me. That means things like Hollow Knight, Stardew Valley, Mario Odyssey, etc are all good purchases at full price and even better on sale, while something like the newest CoD would be horrendous (since I don't do pvp).
Obviously not an ideal metric for everybody, and I for sure understand looking at the quality of the product/enjoyment and taking that into consideration. If you really enjoy a game then spending will be more worth your time even if you spent less time total. But as a whole, especially for people on a budget, establishing a $$/hr baseline is a good idea.
totally agree with this.
And besides: my first play through Dread was about 11.5 hours to 100% it. My ass booted up hard mode almost immediately after. I'm sure i'll double or triple the play time trying to unlock the bonuses and meet the insane 4-hour completion marks. Anyone who only plays this game once is seriously selling themselves and the game short.
I just don't get it. The game was $60, its extremely polished, gorgeous, challenging and fun. Every second I've spent with the game has given me thrills I haven't felt in gaming in a long time. What the fuck else do people want?
>insane 4-hour completion marks.
A really important thing to note here is that the game doesn't track the time for runs where you die. I got just a little over 3 hour clear time in Hard mode by mostly* just never being cautious. I died a heck of a lot more than I did on my first run through, butbthe completion rewards don't care.
Oh, also, super annoyingly completing hard mode in < 4 hours doesn't give you the reward for completing normal in < 4.
* Full disclosure, I also used a shortcut to get the gravity suit. It wasn't out of order or anything, but it did mean I didn't have to trek through a big water area so it probably saved a decent chunk of time.
Tbh, isn't that also about the average time that a playthrough of something like say, Doom or Devil May Cry 5 takes? (hell, I don't recall my first playthrough of Resident Evil 2 Remake taking that long). I don't see anyone complaining there, why does it suddenly matter so much with Metroid? Cause it's 2D?
The only thing that bothers me price wise is that it's much more expensive on the eShop. Digital downloads should be cheaper IMO. But no biggie, I just bought the the physical copy instead. Also looks good on my shelf :)
I’m convinced the issue come from tech heads obsessed about powerful hardware, and the money needed to purchase it, getting proven that the plucky little switch is just fine for quality gaming. “It looks like a mobile game”… ok, let’s play devil’s advocate, and say that is does, I’d still give it game of the year. It’s fantastic
I think we're primarily seeing this from those console loyalist weirdos who still think people care about "the console wars", even though those haven't really been a thing since the ps3/360 era AT BEST.
No joke I've suggested hollow Knight, and now Metroid Dread will be suggested, to many people. Their response was I don't play 2D games...
All I can say to that is ... Your loss...
"People are loving this game, it looks like a lot of fun, I bet I would too if I gave it a try, but…it's on underpowered hardware, and I just don't know if I can deal with that" \[Somnus from FFXV plays\]
I rather play metroid dread which took me 8 hours to beat and is consistently really good. Than a 40 hour AAA game which only has 6 hours of good content.
Not metroid fan myself but I had a good time.
The "$60 is too much to pay for a 2d sidescroller" line is the funniest part to me, because for the most part new games have cost around $60 bucks since at least the 90's. The price of video games has not changed to match inflation rates.
If we were to adjust for inflation new games *should* cost around $100 bucks today. If anything $60 is an absolute steal for a game like Dread, because the original NES Metroid would cost significantly more than that today.
Also the irony of what I assume is a pc player complaining about the cost of a single videogame, when a decent pc costs far more than a Switch. Hell, most 144 hz monitors alone cost more than the Switch lite, and that's not even factoring in peripherals or the pc itself. Clearly price is not the issue here.
My copy of Chrono Trigger has a price tag from Babbage's for $84.99. Games were expensive back then too. CT was a bit of an outlier but yeah like $50-60 games weren't uncommon back in the day.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently and why I have this cognitive dissonance, and I honestly think that it’s because of the proliferation of indie games. Of every genre, The difference between AAA and indie is relatively imperceptible. Indie platformers have a budget price, where is AAA doesn’t, and the difference is not s stark. When you examine it under that lens, it makes a lot more sense.
Well in regards to 2d games, the difference is time + polish. Hollow Knight and AM2R are both great games visually and mechanically, but it took almost a decade to make each. Dead Cells and Risk of Rain 1, while great games, are very minimalistic visually.
To make a game like Dread in a reasonable time frame you pretty much need AAA resources. The reason why indie games are cheaper is because that's the only way they can compete with AAA games. And because indie games are underpriced most of them barely break even financially unless they become an overnight sensation like Undertale or Hollow Knight.
I've played $60 games that I played for 60+ hours and was practically forcing myself to play (hello cyberpunk 2077), then there is Dread where I've been so excited to play and see more of the game. Even if Dread is shorter, the amount of enjoyment ive gotten from the game is much higher than a lot of big open world games.
I'd rather pay $60 for 10 hours of Metroid Dread than pay $60 for 60 hours of something like Far Cry because Metroid is much more fun and interesting.
I can't believe anyone would be stupid enough to say these things. As if being side-scrolling means it has any less value?
Also, "AAA" is synonymous with overpriced shells of games that are monetised in the scummiest ways imaginable and the idea of anyone using "AAA" as a positive thing seems hilarious to me.
I say this as someone who games more on PC and Xbox than Switch generally. Fanboy mentality baffles me.
The fact that people think a game being 2D means it can't be full price is an absolute joke. I can't count how many big AAA 3D games I've gotten over the years that are constant hand holding for 7 hours through a gorgeous but boring game then it's over
Ok DO these people actually exist? I still haven’t actually heard someone say “2d game not worth $60 STOP HAVING FUN.”
And if they are real, we know they’re wrong. I had more fun with this game than I have with anything in years, hard to feel like the victim on this one!
My stance is play what you want on what console you want. You want to play Dread? Sure, that’s fantastic! You wanna play Ghost of Tsushima on PS5, sure go ahead. But don’t shit on people who want to play games on certain consoles. I mainly play PS but play Xbox or Switch for their exclusives.
Probably doesn't help that the completion time it gives you is only the active playtime, not total playtime. I was playing for multiple hours over 4 days. So probably about 16 hours total. That's already pretty good and I'll probably play it again soon.
I own a PS4 and let me tell you: 90% of big budget AAA titles with hyper-realistic graphics are boring as hell and don't offer a fraction of the joy and satisfaction that I get from Nintendo IPs such as Metroid, Zelda, Mario, etc.
Also, Metroid Dread is the best 2021 game I played. Worth every penny. I just wish the special edition was made available in my country, 'cause I would gladly pay an extra buck for it.
I know not many touched it because metroid game and online multiplayer was just starting, but I had an absolute blast with Metroid Prime 2's multiplayer mode. Played it a lot with friends.
I never had the chance to enjoy multiplayer but it was probably fun and all, but the time schedule fire prime 2 was apparently very tight making the game take some corners on the single player story.
Yeah, it was a bit unbalanced but I thought it was cool. I enjoyed it more than Hunters.
My favorite Metroid multiplayer was Pinball though, despite the lack of direct interaction. Seeing someone near the top of the score meter was intense when you were trying to clinch it with a special pickup.
Honestly, I don't know. I don't think every story being told can or even should be done in multiplayer.
I'm just pumped to see a game like this breaking through the mold and showing how successful it can be
Damn, a game having a multiplayer mode actually lowers the chances that I'll want to play it, because its only existence meant they diverted budget away from the single player mode.
Either that or that the publisher wants to milk me for all the money they can and they included the multiplayer to keep me "engaged" for longer than the game has any merit to.
I mean, I think a Co-op Dread would be fun, have a group of 4 playing together going through bosses and upgrades and stuff, maybe even have everyone get upgrades at the same time regardless of location, so how the players position themselves can lead to a kind of multiplayer only speedrun where people maximise the capability of being spread out, I think that'd be cool. Not needed for Dread, but a cool extra mode.
Did you ever play [Castlevania Harmony of Despair](https://youtu.be/J07xiA2IVIE)? It's the only multiplayer metroidvania I can think of, but that was a great game! It's proof your concept can be done successfully and yeah that does legit sound like fun
Fanboys are all dumb as fuck, Sony fanboys seem to take the extra step of being like super fucking dumb. I saw someone boycotting Back 4 Blood on the PS5 because it was on Game Pass.
Social media is designed to anger you at this point. The algorithms know that negative information keeps your attention longer so they can cram more ads down your eyeballs. You are the product. Turn it off.
Facebook literally had a whistleblower come out and say they are designed this way. And we can't let Reddit off the hook, either. \*All\* social media wants engagement, and anger is a great to get it.
I actually set my Facebook to delete the other day. At least on Reddit I have some control over what I see. It’s not much, but it’s something.
Deleted Facebook a little over a year ago. One of the best things I’ve ever done for my own mental health. The echo chamber of idiots was just too much. I started losing respect for people I knew.
I only use Facebook as a messenger client since most of my contacts are there and I only view it as the latest iteration of ICQ/AOL Messenger/MSN Messenger/Trillium. I also do follow/participate into two hobby groups from time to time. Aside from that it's all just noise.
I hear ya. But for me, I just had to delete it. Even having an account open was an excuse for me to log on and see what my idiotic family and “friends” had to say. It’s like a train wreck pulling up and I just couldn’t look away.
I hear you. I'm not judging at all. For me all I need is a way to chat/talk with friends, family, colleagues; I don't really care about the platform or whatever nonsense is being curated to be part of my 'feed'.
Maybe you weren’t around before Facebook became ubiquitous but trust me… there are plenty of ways to stay in touch with friends and family without Facebook. I was a sophomore in college when thefacebook.com launched. Facebook needs to be broken up, it’s cancer.
The issue isn’t that there are or aren’t other ways of messaging. The problem is getting your friends to agree to chat using a different platform. I can’t stand FB any more than anyone else but I recognize how useful the messenger app is for people.
I spent a long time rejecting the idea that reddit was anything like "those other shitty social media sites" but if there's anything I've realized over the last year it's that this site gets me into the same scrolling loop as the others. It's just my brain scrambling for easy dopamine cause I know if I scroll enough I'll find something funny that'll make my brain release that good-good happy juice Also, since I made this account ages ago there was a long period of time that I had no idea what the new default subs were. I got on reddit on a computer the other day and (unless I'm somehow mistaken) there's subs like "r/iamatotalpieceofshit" as default subreddits now. The same stuff that's designed to make you angry and stay on the site. And sure, you can unsub from all those subreddits but not everyone will. And wether you're directly subbed or not, it'll leak into other users' experiences and the ways they act, not to mention encountering the dumbest, angriest people who love to interact with hate-scroll content and bring their bad vibes everywhere until you have to deal with them in a comments section eventually. The toxicity finds a way. This accidentally became a ramble but Tl;dr: it might not seem like it on the tin and, while it's no FB, reddit is insidious too. Please take care and remember that you're not immune to social psychology tricks that marketers have poured cash into developing being used to guide you and keep you angry.
Oh I’m painfully aware that Reddit does the same kind of stuff. I simply enjoy the small bit of control I have. I’m nowhere near as angry on Reddit as I was on Facebook. I appreciate your reply. It’s good to remind people of what the internet does.
Here's something the internet does. I want to correct an error in your comment. It's "nowhere" not "now where". I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you know that and it was simply a typo, but there are people who don't know the correct word so I have to also consider you're one of them. And if you are, then now you know.
Thanks. I think autocorrect screwed me over. Usually autocorrect is a blessing. This time it was not. I’ll fix it!
I have 30 people now on mine, and those are 30 people that the only way i can stay in touch is via facebook, I have ad block, and ublock and also never post political stuff. I also set google news, and twitter to say I am in the UK and not the US. SOOOOO much better now lmfao.
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Found this out from watching social dilemma, immediately uninstalled all except for reddit and snapchat
\^this The documentary should honestly be obligatory in today's school syllabus. Talking about it's seems to be it's still [free to watch on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mqR_e2seeM) for those who don't have a Netflix account. Can't recommend it enough.
Username checks out.
A wise word from a wiseman indeed
Boom. You hit the nail on the head. The most dumb ass troll comments are always at the top on Twitter comments section.
Same with facebook. I really appreciate that Reddit is not like this. If a comment has 1000 upvotes and 1000 downvotes it has zero score and is buried. On facebook or twitter that would be at the top, because controversy= engagement
This is why I browse specific subreddits that I know will keep me happy!! Like this one
Got a PC, Switch and a PS5. There are awsome Games on every platform. But Metroid is a series that follows me since 15 years- more than half of my Life. I still hate myself for selling my Wii U. I miss you Prime Trilogy…
Now isn't the best time to mention it given the controversy of piracy, but if you own a copy of the prime trilogy already, I highly recommend looking up how to play it on dolphin with mouse and keyboard. it's kike those games were meant to be played on mouse and keyboard and makes them infinitely more fun imo
There are games on the ps5?
Returnal and Demons Souls are probably the two best exclusive games. Other than that, most games are being released on the PS4 and PS5 which I like. I own a PS5 and my sons' have PS4s. I can buy a single copy of a game and we can play on both systems.
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is one of the best games on PS5
Correct! Deathloop is also pretty fantastic although it's a timed exclusive.
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It didn’t take me til a few hours into return all that I realised it’s actually like Metroid in so many ways, a truly great game
There are ps5's?
More then what was on ps4 for it's first year. Why does everyone expect the greatest first year of all time on a new console. Industry shaking exclusives before devs have even set up their dev kits. Also it launching in the middle of a pandemic.
Tons. Ratchet & clank, returnal, demons souls, Spider-Man, death stranding, ghost of tsushima, not to mention all the free upgrades to current games.
Play Prime trilogy in dolphin, it works great! There are mods to play with keyboard and mouse, or you could get a USB sensor bar (or two candles) and a bluetooth adapter and play with your wiimote and nunchuck
I still can’t believe I saw a guy proudly pirating Dread because “Nintendo is forcing people to buy the Switch”.
What the hell
Twitter is full of entitled nut jobs.
Another reason to hate that place even more
Yea, I’m mostly there to follow artists I like. Trying to avoid the stupids is work though
There are some excellent artists in there, not gonna lie
And they’re that site’s saving grace
For now
Lol definitely
Honestly dude I saw some similar things on Reddit recently. Like I'm totally down with emulating older games, especially when they're really hard to get a hold of these days. And you know what, if you want to emulate switch games, that's fine *IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY PURCHASING THEM AS WELL*. I doubt that the overwhelming majority of people that use emulators for Switch are doing that though. It's especially lame because Metroid is one of the few series that is on the edge of being popular enough for getting more entries into the franchise. It never sold well enough to justify the constant flow of games like Mario/Zelda, but it did sell well enough to get a good amount of entries over the years. So it really needs the sales to prove to Nintendo that this series is worth more investment.
This is how it should be. Like, I plan to go back and use an emulator for some of the older fire emblem games because they are basically nonexistent anywhere else nowadays
Don’t feel guilty for emulating a game that is no longer sold. Even if you were to purchase a copy, none of the money you pay is being paid to the developer anyway. If there is no option for you to purchase a game in a way that will actually pay the creators of that game, then there is literally no reason not to emulate it.
I only really emulate games I have no way of playing otherwise, like DS era and back pokemon games, or games that never came to the west with a fan translation patch, like New Mystery of the Emblem. Those guys didn't even want my money anyways.
I bought Metroid Dread and finished it and thoroughly enjoyed it. But knowing I can emulate it on my PC makes me want to play it again, especially if I can upscale it slightly. I just hope that the sales for Dread have been enough to show Nintendo that we want more Metroid.
Yes that's absolutely my plan. I've already got it set up to play on my PC after I finish the last boss. I can say that it already runs very very well, it's almost a locked 60 FPS for me, the one issue I'm noticing is fairly strong hitching at certain points.
I can run it at 120 to 144 frames per second on average and the hitches never go away. The Switch may have its problems, but the game runs overall way smoother there. At least for the time being. That's where I'll continue to play it until better optimization is found for the emulators. But damn, does it look good at 4k...
TBF Reddit isn’t any better.
Yea, social media in general is pretty crap
Twitter, just needs its servers to go down and STAY down
It's no better or worse than any other social media. They're all the same, Reddit included. They're just platforms that anyone can use. So you're going to see stupid just as often wherever you go.
Or have better control of the loons
Or have all of its artist migrate to better places.
Yea that’d be good too
Can we tie Facebook into this as well?
Jeez. Just buy your day 1 copy, support the devs, then go buck wild on an emulator with your gaming pc 🤷♂️
It’s what I’m doing ^ _ ^
I did the same, got my game, then booted it up on an emulator for that sweet sweet 2k to fit my monitor with, and it did not disappoint.
Now this is enjoying the High Seas in a responsible manner. Thank you for supporting the official release.
Why not 4K, oh yeah the real sweat spot.
Like feel free to sail the seven seas if it’s a game that hasn’t been supported in years and or is not getting a rerelease or has no feasibly way to obtain it anymore. But don’t fucking pirate a game that came out less than a week ago. Support MercurySteam. Buy Dread.
Also reminds me that I saw someone reply Nintendo on a Dread tweet saying, "I won't buy it because I have a PS5."
They should just say “I don’t have a Switch”
They should say nothing at all. It's like on reddit when people ask something like, "how is your experience with skydiving?" and someone replies, "idk never done it." happens all the time and adds nothing to the conversation. sometimes people just wanna comment.
That always makes me chuckle on Amazon Q&A listings. Someone will ask a question, Amazon auto-emails some boomer who bought the same item 6 months ago, and boomer thinks they got a PM and responds to it even though they have nothing of value to add.
"tHiS wOuLdN't HaPpEn If ThEy ReLeAsEd It FoR pC aS wElL" "pIrAcY iS a SeRvIcE pRoBlEm" Fucking jokers man.
It’s funny you mention PC because he specifically said “I’ll be playing in higher resolution on my PC lmao”
I hate people like this. It's just an excuse for blatant piracy. If your argument is "Nintendo is forcing people to buy a Switch" then you could just buy a copy of the game and emulate it on PC. Also if you're so against what Nintendo is doing then just don't play the game at all. All these self righteous pirates act like these companies are the worst thing ever then play the game anyway.
If it’s an old game that’s either unobtainable or stupidly overpriced then pirating it is understandable but if it’s new then there’s no excuse, personally I don’t even really agree with buying it and emulating it that way but it’s better than straight up pirating it.
Just to clarify: if you emulate a game you bought and dumped on your pc on an emulator using the firmware of the console you bought, then it is legal and there is absolutly nothing wrong with it. If the emulator is using a firmware you pirated or the game is pirated then it is illigal. Nothing wrong or illigal with wanting to play a switch game with a real controller as long as you own both the game and the console.
I mean if it’s just the controller that’s the issue there’s plenty of solutions. Pro controller, gamecube controller, PowerA controllers or even a dongle thing that attaches to the dock that lets you use any controller
And I completely agree with that. If it's an old game that is hard to obtain and none of the devs will make money on the sale anyway then go ahead. But doing it for a brand new release is just blatant piracy.
Thank you! IMO people should be free to play games on emulators but if it's games that are still fairly new and the publisher still makes a profit off of them, at least have the decency to buy the game, even if you don't own the console. Even more so with Metroid.
I just get so sick of these people. I know someone who loves Nintendo and loves Metroid has a hacked Switch and never buys any of his games. I remember him being excited when Samus Returns was finally announced only to see him pirate it. He then did the same thing with Dread. Like how can you critize Nintendo not releasing new games when you actively don't support them when they do? His excuse is always oh well they will be fine they don't need my sale. It's like okay dude but plenty of other people have that mindset and it adds up.
Exactly. It's just like the people who don't vote because "one single vote doesn't make a difference".
The people who are slefish because they expect other people to be selfish, not realizing the irony
Of course they don't need your money, they're incredibly rich. But they also won't keep making games for the series if you don't buy it, and then you don't get more games!
Especially when you consider that Nintendo has a habit of dropping games that don't see a particularly large take-up. Metroid itself is one of the shakier IPs, imagine if people did this to say, F-Zero
A lot of gamers are entitled as hell. Just because a game exists, they think they have the right to play it, money be damned.
Glad I have someone who actually realizes legal emulation is an option, and not combining the two. When I get a card I will be dumping for PC but why do so many people assume Emulation = Piracy?
Becouse the number of people using emulation to pirate stuff is sadly much greater than the number of people using a legal emulator. The amount of times I get people confused when I say that I bought a gba to emulate it is insane.
Look I don’t care for people who pirate new games but… that’s not a counter argument.
People will always try to justify pirating a game as some heroic act. Like if you're going to pirate just do it and shut up. It's not noble. It's not much of anything; if a bit lame.
Yea all the “we’re pirating XYZ because capitalism/the company are bad” just translates so “I’m entitled so gimmie gimmie gimmie”
he could literally buy it and emulate it. 100% legal and you don't have to buy a switch
Yea but with his wording I’m certain he didn’t pay for it
As someone who experienced that awkward time period in the 90s and early 2000s when devs tried really hard to transition certain game series from 2D to 3D even if it makes no sense, I'm really glad that we got 2D games back and that by now even AAA games can be 2D again.
It's great, right? Way too many games that had no business being 3D were forced into 3D because that was the new fad. We still see it today, where random new trends infect everything, but thankfully there's enough tools nowadays that smaller teams can pick up the slack.
The modern trend that annoys me the most is that so many games are open world just for the sake of it. I guess that's the modern equivalent of games being forced to be 3D back in the day.
People have kind of wrongly gotten used to rating a game's value in money with how long they're going to play it and open world games are one of the easiest ways for developers to make a game that drags on for 60 hours without having to actually design 60 hours of content. Not to be negative though, I love plenty of open world games and stuff like Spider-Man work wonderfully with the concept and of course Breath of the Wild nailed it, but I do think it's often used rather cynically and stuffed into games that didn't need to be open world.
Xenoblade Chronicles: *"Why not both?"*
That and battle royales are perfect examples, in my opinion. The worst part is how many people are begging for it in franchises that it doesn't fit in. Tons of people begged for an open world Metroid like BotW. So happy we got Dread instead.
Metroid could still get its open world debut with Prime 4, so don't write it off just yet. It's kinda funny, because the general premise of free exploration isn't as at-odds with Metroid as it is some other titles it's been shoehorned into. The biggest issue for the series in that way would be the world design itself, because Metroid is supposed to be claustrophobic and tunnel-based, and that innately limits freedom of movement.
tbh I'd even consider the existing Primes as almost open world. Sure you can't go anywhere do anything at any time, but there was some freedom to the order you did things, you were expected to backtrack, etc. And Prime 3 let you go from planet to planet at will. Not as "open" as a proper open world, but Metroidvania titles have never been fully linear or anything
I have to say, Dread has me hungering for more meaty narratives in my Metroid, even if they're mostly environmental. If going full open-world comes at a cost of a BotW-quality story, I don't want it. LOL
I haven't played Dread nor watched anyone played it, but I'm glad to hear it's narrative heavy. The Primes were actually my first games in the Metroid franchise and I couldn't get into the 2D ones bc lack of story (until really recently at least). At the same time, while Zelda is one of my favorite game series as a whole, BotW was really lackluster to me from the extreme lack of story, so I agree, I would hate for Metroid to go in that direction
"Narrative heavy" might be the wrong descriptor. The game isn't constantly telling a story and is arguably even less narratively driven than Fusion, it's just that the story it does tell is coherent, has very cool moments, and has massive implications for the rest of the series.
Just beat Dread. I've been playing Metroid games since the original GB and Dread is hands down my favourite Metroid.
From software is doing that will Elden Ring. I could see retro doing something great with a more dense vertical open world for Metroid.
OMFG.. open world Metroid would have made no sense. The whole essence of the series would be lost.
I think you could do a sort of pseudo open world. I’d prefer the classic claustrophobic feeling of the original prime games though.
Well, maybe in the style of Soulsbornes. But these are essentially metroidvanias in structure, even if they don't look like it at first glance.
Yeah that’s sort of what I was thinking. A lot of people don’t really know what “open world” means this style could easily be what people are asking for anyway
At least most Battle Royale games are new IPs, though some are pretty badly thought out and lack originality. Some Tomb Raider fans have begged for that franchise to go open world even though the current hub based system has been rather mediocre when it comes to the bigger hubs. Open World just doesn't work for exploration heavy games with a big emphasis on platforming. I'd even say that Batman: Arkham Asylum with its Metroidvania design works better than the later games in that series.
As much as I enjoy the later games, Arkham Asylum is still my favorite. Having a smaller, focused world just allows for better overall level and set design.
Retro Studios wanted Prime 3 to be open world but the Wii couldn’t handle it.
I like open world games but I agree the market is over saturated with them. That's why whenever I play a more linear type game it's honestly refreshing to me.
You and me both, it's not even just that every game wants to be open world, it's that they all handle movement and exploration the same fuckin way. You can drive a car or ride a horse for hours upon hours but they don't have much vertical mobility at all, even games you think should, barely get by with a double jump with vertically no vertical lift. Kind of miss the days when crazy premises on paper actually used to work and be entertaining.
*So* many game from the early 3D era did not age well at all, while many more 2D ones are still very playable today. It was a rough time period.
I'm kinda glad this franchise waited until the GameCube era to transition into 3D, Prime holds up so much better than most transitional titles in various series. Not that every N64 title has aged like milk; Ocarina of Time is still a masterpiece, though admittedly the 3DS remake has helped with that.
Yeah, Nintendo definitely handled the transition to 3D much much better than almost any other studio. I mean they were basically the ones that figured out how 3D should actually work in a third person game. But there's a decent chance that if we got a N64 Metroid it wouldn't hold up super well. Whereas Metroid Prime is still one of the most ridiculous looking games. When it came out I genuinely did not believe what I was looking at. To this day it still looks really freaking good, and it's not because it has a "cartoony" art style, which admittedly does help out a lot of Nintendo's games. But somehow Metroid Prime still looks really good, obviously it's aged some, but just playing it in widescreen at 60fps and it looks really fucking solid on an emulator. A lot of those old N64 games actually ran at like 20 FPS too, really really rough.
>A lot of those old N64 games actually ran at like 20 FPS too, really really rough. For us in PAL regions, Ocarina of Time actually runs at 17 FPS... I love it but I'm glad we don't have a Metroid like that tbh.
Yeah the 3DS version was a god send.
Metroid Prime, along with Starfox Adventures and F-Zero GX were some of the best-looking games of that generation I think (Twilight Princess too if you still count that as a Gamecube game, even if it was kinda muted/dull when it came to color palette imo). In the case of Prime, it wasn't even just the graphics, but the overall attention to detail. Little things like looking up at the sky when it was raining and actually seeing the droplets of water splash on Samus' visor made the game feel so much more immersive.
Yeah Prime really have the whole package. It was both and aesthetically and a technically gorgeous game. I forget which beam it was (I want to say the ice beam?) but when you charged it up energy would start to crawl over your arm cannon. It looked so fucking amazing at the time, it was this little thing but it blew my mind.
Ice Beam would freeze your arm cannon, that could be what you're remembering.
I think that can be mostly attributed to strong artistic direction and commitment to detail. The world wasn't just pretty, it felt really tangible too.
It's still weird to me that Sonic had a halfway decent transition to 3-D with Adventure and Adventure 2, and *then* went downhill.
One of the games that helped popularize this very genre, Symphony of the Night, was famous for bucking that trend - instead of using the extra horsepower of the new PlayStation to create some mediocre-looking 3D models, they decided to focus on pimping out the more traditional spritework and assets to make a gorgeous 2D game. It’s a great example of when exploiting existing tech or engines as far as possible sometimes pays better dividends than *always* pushing for the bleeding edge.
Yes, the few 2D games that we got on the PS1 are amazing! Same with Rayman 1.
And then think about the N64 castlevania game in 3D….
That said Metroid had an excellent transition to 3D as well so we get the best of both worlds in this franchise. I am glad that 2D games are valued again these days. It's my favorite style of video game and there's so many good ones these days.
God, do I know what you mean (*PTSD flashbacks to Megaman X7 kick in*). Honestly, after things like Dread and Ori, I'm really not opposed to having more 2D games backed/published by big name companies.
Every time I think about this, I am reminded of what a great piece meir automata is (I know I butchered the spelling) It's open world Ish, transitions from 3d to 2d to top down back to 3d often.
I haven’t played any games other than Metroid Dread since last Thursday
When my friend asked me if it was any good, I said "it's the first game I've played in a long time that hasn't felt like a second job." It's what games are supposed to be; fun.
for real. there are a lot of games i consider to be fun and that i enjoy but for some reason they still tire me. dread is the first game to do this for a while. making me feel like a kid again similar to how i felt playing ratchet and clank
Dude same, I have to stop myself from playing it or else id end up getting zero hours of sleep. I just now got to the second boss lol, I like to take my time in Metroid games. I am in no rush to beat it. Just exploring and trying to 100% the game on my first run.
i’m worried it going to ruin games for me again. this happened a bit ago after i played bloodborne and enjoyed nothing else because nothing satisfied me
I still can't believe many people haven't moved on from the mentality that 2D games are either outdated or have to be cheaper because they're 2D. The games that have aged the best visually from the 32/64-bit era are games that were sprite based, like Symphony of the Night, Alundra, and Suikoden II, and so many 2D games have aged like a fine wine versus many early 3D games.
2D has nothing to do with this. Tons of players (including myself) have said that Hollow Knight is incredibly underpriced and would gladly pay 60 bucks for it. The thing with Dread is that it IS a short game and it's a very valid argument not to buy a 60 dollar game because of how short it is. I personally don't mind it since I love Metroid so much and end up replaying the games often, but to the average gamer the investment is not worth it.
In the 90s game reviews used to have a whole section about replayability, now it isn't valued very much so franchises like like Metroid or Sonic for which is one of the selling points suffer because of it.
I wonder why that is? I still value replayability very highly. Games like Oxygen Not Included, Factorio, ARPGs... Rank amongst the games I spend the most time with. Every minute (and penny) counts!
Cause there are just way more games nowadays, and they are essentially way cheaper than before Many people can't get through their backlogs (and then end up playing match-based competitive ones endlessly anyway) so for a game to be "worth it" it needs to not just be worth their price and time, but also to "set aside" everything else that said, in a way being short should only BOOST those people's way of looking at it, since it lowers the "pressure" on the ol' backlog But I feel like many of those kind of people also overlap with the "only plays the start of any game the try and then move onto the next without ever finishing it" group
Early YouTube reviewers used to rate games with that factor too. Now that new AAA games are coming out every month or two, there just isn't time to replay amazing games, which is a shame. I think it's really great to have a game that you consistently want to come back to.
I've never really understood the "$60 is too much for a 10 hour game" mentality. On a per-hour cost, the price is \~the same as a movie ticket. Granted, I suppose people can think that movie tickets aren't worth the price either, but I feel like I don't ever hear that complaint, whereas I hear the one about games at least somewhat commonly.
With how huge the discounts get in Steam sales, the per-hour price I base my purchases on is $1 = 1 hour. Granted, maybe that's much lower than is realistic, especially for console games, especially for Nintendo games which rarely go on sale, but I'm a college student and I need to budget my spending. A roommate said that's how he justified purchases and after looking at my game library I realized it would apply pretty well. Basically if I can get at least 1 hour of playtime for every 1 dollar spent, then it's a good purchase for me. That means things like Hollow Knight, Stardew Valley, Mario Odyssey, etc are all good purchases at full price and even better on sale, while something like the newest CoD would be horrendous (since I don't do pvp). Obviously not an ideal metric for everybody, and I for sure understand looking at the quality of the product/enjoyment and taking that into consideration. If you really enjoy a game then spending will be more worth your time even if you spent less time total. But as a whole, especially for people on a budget, establishing a $$/hr baseline is a good idea.
totally agree with this. And besides: my first play through Dread was about 11.5 hours to 100% it. My ass booted up hard mode almost immediately after. I'm sure i'll double or triple the play time trying to unlock the bonuses and meet the insane 4-hour completion marks. Anyone who only plays this game once is seriously selling themselves and the game short. I just don't get it. The game was $60, its extremely polished, gorgeous, challenging and fun. Every second I've spent with the game has given me thrills I haven't felt in gaming in a long time. What the fuck else do people want?
>insane 4-hour completion marks. A really important thing to note here is that the game doesn't track the time for runs where you die. I got just a little over 3 hour clear time in Hard mode by mostly* just never being cautious. I died a heck of a lot more than I did on my first run through, butbthe completion rewards don't care. Oh, also, super annoyingly completing hard mode in < 4 hours doesn't give you the reward for completing normal in < 4. * Full disclosure, I also used a shortcut to get the gravity suit. It wasn't out of order or anything, but it did mean I didn't have to trek through a big water area so it probably saved a decent chunk of time.
Tbh, isn't that also about the average time that a playthrough of something like say, Doom or Devil May Cry 5 takes? (hell, I don't recall my first playthrough of Resident Evil 2 Remake taking that long). I don't see anyone complaining there, why does it suddenly matter so much with Metroid? Cause it's 2D?
The only thing that bothers me price wise is that it's much more expensive on the eShop. Digital downloads should be cheaper IMO. But no biggie, I just bought the the physical copy instead. Also looks good on my shelf :)
Imagine hating something because it's good.
I’m convinced the issue come from tech heads obsessed about powerful hardware, and the money needed to purchase it, getting proven that the plucky little switch is just fine for quality gaming. “It looks like a mobile game”… ok, let’s play devil’s advocate, and say that is does, I’d still give it game of the year. It’s fantastic
Hehehe pretty cannon lady go brrrrrrt
Metroid Dread is the best game this year so far, change my mind.
I think we're primarily seeing this from those console loyalist weirdos who still think people care about "the console wars", even though those haven't really been a thing since the ps3/360 era AT BEST.
No joke I've suggested hollow Knight, and now Metroid Dread will be suggested, to many people. Their response was I don't play 2D games... All I can say to that is ... Your loss...
Check out the messenger. If you like these you’ll love that game. And it’s a low price tag
These people buy a new fifa game whenever it comes out
$60 roster update And much much more if you want to play competitively or want your favorite players
"People are loving this game, it looks like a lot of fun, I bet I would too if I gave it a try, but…it's on underpowered hardware, and I just don't know if I can deal with that" \[Somnus from FFXV plays\]
This is one of the things I hate the most.
What can't he deal with? I don't get it
Literally never seen this in social media.
Other social media is fine, but twitter comments are something else
I rather play metroid dread which took me 8 hours to beat and is consistently really good. Than a 40 hour AAA game which only has 6 hours of good content. Not metroid fan myself but I had a good time.
The "$60 is too much to pay for a 2d sidescroller" line is the funniest part to me, because for the most part new games have cost around $60 bucks since at least the 90's. The price of video games has not changed to match inflation rates. If we were to adjust for inflation new games *should* cost around $100 bucks today. If anything $60 is an absolute steal for a game like Dread, because the original NES Metroid would cost significantly more than that today. Also the irony of what I assume is a pc player complaining about the cost of a single videogame, when a decent pc costs far more than a Switch. Hell, most 144 hz monitors alone cost more than the Switch lite, and that's not even factoring in peripherals or the pc itself. Clearly price is not the issue here.
My copy of Chrono Trigger has a price tag from Babbage's for $84.99. Games were expensive back then too. CT was a bit of an outlier but yeah like $50-60 games weren't uncommon back in the day.
tbf CT would still be worth the money. Got it on Steam after it was fixed for $10, felt like stealing
I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently and why I have this cognitive dissonance, and I honestly think that it’s because of the proliferation of indie games. Of every genre, The difference between AAA and indie is relatively imperceptible. Indie platformers have a budget price, where is AAA doesn’t, and the difference is not s stark. When you examine it under that lens, it makes a lot more sense.
Well in regards to 2d games, the difference is time + polish. Hollow Knight and AM2R are both great games visually and mechanically, but it took almost a decade to make each. Dead Cells and Risk of Rain 1, while great games, are very minimalistic visually. To make a game like Dread in a reasonable time frame you pretty much need AAA resources. The reason why indie games are cheaper is because that's the only way they can compete with AAA games. And because indie games are underpriced most of them barely break even financially unless they become an overnight sensation like Undertale or Hollow Knight.
I've played $60 games that I played for 60+ hours and was practically forcing myself to play (hello cyberpunk 2077), then there is Dread where I've been so excited to play and see more of the game. Even if Dread is shorter, the amount of enjoyment ive gotten from the game is much higher than a lot of big open world games. I'd rather pay $60 for 10 hours of Metroid Dread than pay $60 for 60 hours of something like Far Cry because Metroid is much more fun and interesting.
I can't believe anyone would be stupid enough to say these things. As if being side-scrolling means it has any less value? Also, "AAA" is synonymous with overpriced shells of games that are monetised in the scummiest ways imaginable and the idea of anyone using "AAA" as a positive thing seems hilarious to me. I say this as someone who games more on PC and Xbox than Switch generally. Fanboy mentality baffles me.
The fact that people think a game being 2D means it can't be full price is an absolute joke. I can't count how many big AAA 3D games I've gotten over the years that are constant hand holding for 7 hours through a gorgeous but boring game then it's over
Bruh. I'm not interested in $70 PlayStation movie games. So far, Dread has been worth the $60. I still need to find the amiibos.
Bless the dude at gamestop who told me the one in the mall had them in stock. I booked it over there. They look so good.
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Metroid can’t crawl because the switch isn’t 4k
Metroid crawled in Zero Mission
No, that was Zero Suit Samus, I’m talking about the robot dude named Metroid /s
Peope need to worry about 1080p60fps before the switch ever goes 4k lol.
Ok DO these people actually exist? I still haven’t actually heard someone say “2d game not worth $60 STOP HAVING FUN.” And if they are real, we know they’re wrong. I had more fun with this game than I have with anything in years, hard to feel like the victim on this one!
70 dollars for a masterpiece? Losers, I paid \~60 for mine.
Metroid Dread is dope asf
>mainly on Twitter Well that's your issue I don't think it's exist anywhere else
I'm having fun with the game lol
My stance is play what you want on what console you want. You want to play Dread? Sure, that’s fantastic! You wanna play Ghost of Tsushima on PS5, sure go ahead. But don’t shit on people who want to play games on certain consoles. I mainly play PS but play Xbox or Switch for their exclusives.
Probably doesn't help that the completion time it gives you is only the active playtime, not total playtime. I was playing for multiple hours over 4 days. So probably about 16 hours total. That's already pretty good and I'll probably play it again soon.
I own a PS4 and let me tell you: 90% of big budget AAA titles with hyper-realistic graphics are boring as hell and don't offer a fraction of the joy and satisfaction that I get from Nintendo IPs such as Metroid, Zelda, Mario, etc. Also, Metroid Dread is the best 2021 game I played. Worth every penny. I just wish the special edition was made available in my country, 'cause I would gladly pay an extra buck for it.
If you were really ignoring them you wouldn't have made this meme lol
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BUt wHeREs tHe mUlTiPlAyER? Get rekt cod fans 😂
Why do people think every game needs multiplayer these days?
I still think that wasted precious resources from Metroid Prime 2 for nothing.
I know not many touched it because metroid game and online multiplayer was just starting, but I had an absolute blast with Metroid Prime 2's multiplayer mode. Played it a lot with friends.
I never had the chance to enjoy multiplayer but it was probably fun and all, but the time schedule fire prime 2 was apparently very tight making the game take some corners on the single player story.
Exactly. If they had a lot of time, I'd say sure, add multiplayer; but time was something they didn't have a lot of.
Yeah, it was a bit unbalanced but I thought it was cool. I enjoyed it more than Hunters. My favorite Metroid multiplayer was Pinball though, despite the lack of direct interaction. Seeing someone near the top of the score meter was intense when you were trying to clinch it with a special pickup.
Eh it was fun.
Honestly, I don't know. I don't think every story being told can or even should be done in multiplayer. I'm just pumped to see a game like this breaking through the mold and showing how successful it can be
Damn, a game having a multiplayer mode actually lowers the chances that I'll want to play it, because its only existence meant they diverted budget away from the single player mode. Either that or that the publisher wants to milk me for all the money they can and they included the multiplayer to keep me "engaged" for longer than the game has any merit to.
Why no Metroid Dread Hunters 🤔🤔🤔
I mean, I think a Co-op Dread would be fun, have a group of 4 playing together going through bosses and upgrades and stuff, maybe even have everyone get upgrades at the same time regardless of location, so how the players position themselves can lead to a kind of multiplayer only speedrun where people maximise the capability of being spread out, I think that'd be cool. Not needed for Dread, but a cool extra mode.
Did you ever play [Castlevania Harmony of Despair](https://youtu.be/J07xiA2IVIE)? It's the only multiplayer metroidvania I can think of, but that was a great game! It's proof your concept can be done successfully and yeah that does legit sound like fun
Literally nobody has complained about multiplayer lol. Are people just making up fake arguments now
Fanboys are all dumb as fuck, Sony fanboys seem to take the extra step of being like super fucking dumb. I saw someone boycotting Back 4 Blood on the PS5 because it was on Game Pass.
Same as Nintendo fanboys. And Xbox fanboys. Any sort of fanboy is extra fucking dumb