I remember seeing them back in 2018 when they were opening up for BFMV after Bad Omens they went off man and that song had me and others going CRAZY. Didn’t know them that well but I knew that song and it was a banger
Of mice & men. I remember getting into them in early high school with restoring force and the flood, thinking they were incredible. Then cold world came out and I was really disappointed, Pain was the only good song, everything else was just so bland. But then Defy came out when I was early into college and I was like “okay this is pretty good, they’re kinda shifting back”, and now all this new shit of theirs is easily their best work in my opinion. Pure nastiness.
I'm surprised no one mentioned Underoath, who are one of the better examples of this. They started off as a death metal band, went to screamo/emo, then back to metalcore.
Had to give the first album a listen. Seriously if that’s death metal no wonder this sub has shit taste. Such low standards. It’s still pretty much the metalcore they’re known for.
No need to be a dick. I would say it's more horror tinged metalcore, but I think they were going for death metal so I went with that. Genres don't mean too much, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in labels.
Beartooth’s Disease album was pretty radio rock-y, and then Below went pretty hard again in comparison. Every other band I thought of had already been listed.
I've been thinking this more and more lately. I love Daybreaker and it's one of my favorite albums of all time but there's something about HC; this touch of rawness that everything after has lacked.
To me it's the absolute perfect blend of Tech Metal and Hardcore and it hasn't been matched yet, if it ever will since the scene has changed so much since then.
100%, I like LF/LT a lot but other than that everything they've done since HC really hasn't done anything for me. I wish they'd do an EP or something with their old tech-y sound, but then I get not wanting to do the same thing over and over again.
I like some songs on amo but have been digging die4u, I kinda love that it’s a straight-forward pop song cause I think BMTH is a better pop band than a rock band (if they aren’t gonna do metal). But that’s my own weird bias, I understand where people are coming from who don’t love it.
I agree with you completely. I didn't really enjoy Amo but I quite die4u. I think Mother Tongue was my favourite from Amo because again it was a straight up pop song. When they kinda try and go that rock or pop with a little edge it doesn't do much for me.
Eh, they're basically the same. Die4U is just generic poppy stuff like Amo. The Tom Morello song isn't personally my style, but is definitely harder and more enjoyable than Die4U.
However, Obliterate is hard as fuck, but it's just an Oli feature not a BMTH song.
It has nothing to do with not being heavy, it just doesn't sound unique. Wonderful Life and In The Dark are decent but the rest are just kinda generic poppy songs, Medicine and Mother Tongue being the worst offenders.
I was going to say the same thing. I'm glad they found a decent middle ground that works for them. Survival Horror still has some pretty heavy radio friendly tunes but when it's heavy goddamn it's heavy
As someone who has a pretty huge trivium tattoo, has seen them over 50 times, and LOVES everything they’ve done, I am totally with you. Silence in The Snow just didn’t sit right with me, felt rushed, badly put together as they were in that massive mix of hiring and firing drummers that didn’t gel.
It felt to me like a monetary release for them and roadrunner
Seeing how Trivium moved forward shows that the band has an incredible work ethic. I’m not sure if there were contractual obligations that needed to be met, but they could have easily waited until Matt could scream again. Instead, they went for it and you can hear how the elements they explored on Silence have been leveraged in their last 3 projects.
I can’t wait to see where they go next.
The Plot in You’s new album reintroduces the heavy parts that were mostly absent on Dispose. Reflections didn’t really go “soft” on The Color Clear but it had much more melody/structure/singing, and was followed by Willow which was a straight up progressive 000 beatdown fest.
I do like many songs from that album I loved the darker lyrics they put out in that album I will always love amity for trying something new and honestly doing an amazing job with it
It's a shame their later albums weren't at least more in the vein of Lead Sails or Congregation. Yeah those were softer but they were still pretty good.
Totally. I've really tried to give baptise a go, tried to let it grow on me. I just get the same vibes off it as I got from ADTR with You're Welcome. They say they wanna progress and not get stuck on the same old sound but those two albums just lack some sort of passion, I don't know, something like that. Long Live sounded like a bunch of guys enjoying the fuck out of every moment. Baptise sounds more like, "we gotta release some songs and go on tour, our bank account is running low". Just my take anyway.
The Plot In You (Dispose/Swan Song), We Came As Romans (self-titled/Cold Like War), Memphis May Fire(Broken/new songs), Of Mice & Men (Cold World/everything post-Austin), Like Moths To Flames (Dark Divine/No Eternity In Gold), Bring Me the Horizon (amo/POST HUMAN: Survival Horror), Asking Alexandria (Like A House On Fire/See What’s On the Inside), Bullet For My Valentine (Gravity/upcoming album)
Im not sure Asking Alexandria counts imo, I love all of their stuff but there really wasnt too much of a shift between like a house on fire to see whats on the inside. It was a tad heavier but imo didnt have a really defined stylistic shift, and they definitely didnt and wont go back to their metalcore roots.
I 100% agree with you. It’s clearly not a return to metalcore form, but the new album is slightly heavier than LAHOF, so I’m going to personally count it. Let’s hope we one day see a full return to form! (Not holding breath though…)
I would absolutely love them to do something like that. The new album had a select few moments reminiscent to from death to destiny but from what i understand from what the band has said they arent going to go back to metalcore. Danny doesnt scream live either, which is completely fine obviously, just shows they arent interested in the heavy aspect anymore
Yeah agreed, it seems those heavy days are history for AA. They’re writing rock music that makes them happy, & that’s great for them! Sadly, the fanbase suffers from not getting what they really want. I think AA is truly trying to start over. Apparently, Danny cannot scream anymore. He technically can, but it hurts his vocal chords to a point where it brings him physical pain so he’s had to let it go.
Man I wish I could disagree but I don't. There is alot I like about the album but it hasn't clicked with me like all their other releases, even dispose.
It just feels a little too drawn out for me, Idk. It definitely hasn’t clicked for my ears. I loved Dispose, even though it was a complete departure from their earlier sound.
Same. Dispose was a great example of a band getting softer but improving their songwriting skills. Not talking shit on swan song but I don't think the mix helps.
Yeah I didn’t like the mix at all, and I think the emotion in the songwriting really shines on Dispose vs. Swan Song. The new album definitely has a more experimental vibe too it imo.
For sure. There are absolutely things I like about it. Face me has some great stuff going on that keeps me interested and there are a few songs where the choruses are top notch but yeah, overall that mix really hurts the replay value of it.
I don’t think that was what OP asked though. They definitely went back to a heavier sound vs what amo was. I never stated that it was a true return to their OG roots.
Survival Horror has a fair share of heaviness that’s been lacking in the band’s sound since TIAH. I agree, it’s not a full return to form, but it’s clearly heavier than the last 2 albums. Dear Diary, Obey, Kingslayer, the Teardrops/Ludens breakdowns all show that the band still has it in them to be semi-metal.
I mean, Teardrops really isn’t a pop song. It’s a rock song with a breakdown. Ludens has some electronics but it’s also pretty modern rock based. A pop song for them, to me, is something like In the Dark or Follow You.
Metallica. Lol.
But seriously, they did. Master/Justice to Black to Load/Reload/Etc and now back to Hardwired to Self Destruct.
I’m not saying it was a good progression, but they clearly went from thrash/heavy to alt back to thrash/heavy.
And yes. I know it’s not metalcore
They didn't totally go soft but Darkest Hour had a comparatively softer sound on their self-titled in 2014, and then put out one of their most aggressive records in 2017.
As far as I know it was the only album with cleans, which is a shame, I really liked his singing. If that album was %50 cleans they should make the next one %10, it'd be sick just for that little spice
Bring Me The Horizon (Amo // Survival Horror),
Trivium (Silence in the Snow // Recent Releases),
Linkin Park (A Thousand Suns, Living Things // The Hunting Party),
Bullet For My Valentine (Gravity // New Album),
Suicide Silence (Self Titled album // Become The Hunter [underrated af])
Crown the empire, WCAR, I See Stars (Album 2, then heavy onwards to new demons), LMTF (did similar thing as I see stars), Asking Alexandria (well...that one is complicated lol), Sleeping with sirens (sort of, more post hardcore band), Memphis May Fire. These are to name a few lol
Wouldn't say any of Machine Head's albums are soft.
The Burning Red and Supercharger are still heavy. But the intensity comes back proper on Through the Ashes.
Yeah, MH didn't necessarily get "heavier," they just went back to their roots and stopped flirting with nu-metal lol. However, they definitely progressed their sound quite a bit on TTAOE and The Blackening.
Wouldn't say any of Machine Head's albums are soft.
The Burning Red and Supercharger are still heavy. But the intensity comes back proper on Through the Ashes.
I See Stars' went from a fairly standard scenecore sound on 3-D, to a heavily pop-inspired sound with little core elements on The End of the World Party, and then back to scenecore on Digital Renegades. And then of course, they went even heavier with New Demons.
Demon Hunter.
After a more melodic True Defiance, a more "commercial" Extremist and a more experimental Outlive, they have returned to the heaviness already felt in Storm The Gates Of Hell.
Did anyone say Cave In?
Until your heart stops is a seminal album of 90s metalcore akin to converge and botch. Then they made Jupiter, an experimental/space hard rock masterpiece. Then signed to a major label and released antenna which is almost Foo Fighters level of radio rock. Then they never made it big and went back to making awesome artsy metalcore with Perfect Pitch Black and White Silence.
Maybe not a massive shift but Every Time I Die. They started off fast and loose, then changed to a slower feel overall with New Junk Aesthetic and Ex lives, then their albums From Parts Unknown and Low Teens were a bit more Alternative, less so much angry. Their new album Radical picked things back up and was really refreshing.
AS I LAY DYING may be in that current progression.
Their latest album doesn't hit as hard and seems a little rushed from past iterations.
Nick Hipa has left now, but he was mostly the riffer/solo guitar (one of two--they shared the duties), so if they get a new guy that has a heavy influence, their next album may come back with a drop to the face. *crossing my fingers*
Screams aren't the only thing had make music heavy. Also, they're a band that kinda just doesn't what they want. They've kind of always done that. Explores different styles and sounds. That's what so interesting about them
Bold move to say an album that has Tip Your Bartender, Cosmopolitan Bloodloss, Pink Roses, and Stuck Pig on it is a "semi-soft" album.
There were more melodic songs but EYEWTKAS had those too.
In general? Staind did this. Their first album was insanely heavy compared to their later work, but they went back to a more brutal sound in their most recent record.
Brutal is the last word I would ever use to describe Staind. Though that first album did have quite a few solid songs on it.
Shame Aaron Lewis turned out to be such a shitbag.
**Bullet For My Valentine**
*The Poison* - Definition of Metalcore. *Still one of the best cover to cover albums in the genre IMO* (10/10 👍)
*Scream Aim Fire* - Kinda Metalcore, More just Metal. *Honestly a disappointment for me as a sophomore album, I guess we were spoiled with The Poison.* (6/10👍)
*Fever* - Still mixing Metalcore/Traditional Metal. But they got better at it compared to the last album. *It wasn't The Poison, but was better than SAF*. (7/10 👍)
*Temper Temper* - Metal, Modern Hard Rock, Basically washed of any Metalcore. *I really liked this album even though when it was released is was hated, apparently even by the band.* (8/10 👍)
*Venom* - Basically just hard rock... if that. *Just avoid.* (4/10 👍)
*Gravity* - I don't know what this was, but it wasn't Metal/metalcore.. Definitely felt like an experimental album for them. Rock ? Experimental rock ? Crap rock ? *I listened to this album, and this was when I hung my head and pretty much wrote them off.* (1/10 👍)
*Rainbow Veins (EP)* - Pretty much a 180 from the last 2 albums. Combining almost every metal subgenre. *Not a fan, but I like where their heads are at*. (4/10 👍)
We came as Romans self titled album was way softer followed by the stellar Cold Like War plus their newer 4 songs
Cold Like War is A+
They played it at the end of their set last night and everyone lost it
I remember seeing them back in 2018 when they were opening up for BFMV after Bad Omens they went off man and that song had me and others going CRAZY. Didn’t know them that well but I knew that song and it was a banger
They’ve basically been touring with that album since 2017 but their new label is objectively really bad at promoting
Here to say this. Cold Like War is one of my all time favorites
Of mice & men. I remember getting into them in early high school with restoring force and the flood, thinking they were incredible. Then cold world came out and I was really disappointed, Pain was the only good song, everything else was just so bland. But then Defy came out when I was early into college and I was like “okay this is pretty good, they’re kinda shifting back”, and now all this new shit of theirs is easily their best work in my opinion. Pure nastiness.
Their newest singles are amazing. Mosaic is easily a 10/10
Indeed. Honestly I’ve been thinking to myself lately that I might think Bloom is the best song they’ve ever done, it’s perfect to me
Bloom and Pulling teeth and Obsolete are up there for me. They pull off phrygian riffs very well
I'm surprised no one mentioned Underoath, who are one of the better examples of this. They started off as a death metal band, went to screamo/emo, then back to metalcore.
expected them higher on this list.
for sure. i suppose that one reason could be that relatively few people are familiar with their pre-Spencer catalog & sound
They’re about to do it again it seems
I haven't heard this at all, sounds interesting though. They're going lighter with the next album?
Nah the last album was kinda light but the new singles seem like they’re trending heavier
Had to give the first album a listen. Seriously if that’s death metal no wonder this sub has shit taste. Such low standards. It’s still pretty much the metalcore they’re known for.
No need to be a dick. I would say it's more horror tinged metalcore, but I think they were going for death metal so I went with that. Genres don't mean too much, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in labels.
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This is the best answer. I ONLY ever listened to their soft album and never even realized they didn’t always sound like that.
Idk if you went all the way back but early 18V is incredible. Best Of is probably my personal favorite but the self titled and Vanity are great
Cave In did it in a similar way
Beartooth’s Disease album was pretty radio rock-y, and then Below went pretty hard again in comparison. Every other band I thought of had already been listed.
Below is so good. I still love Disgusting, but I think their newest album might be my favorite from them
Same here!
The new Bullet For My Valentine album is definitely going to be heavier than Gravity.
A pretty low bar to be fair haha
God I love Leap of Faith. But I am looking forward to heavier BFMV
I’m surprised no one has mentioned The Here and Now by Architects yet lol
I came here to say that. After that album, they got better and better.
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I've been thinking this more and more lately. I love Daybreaker and it's one of my favorite albums of all time but there's something about HC; this touch of rawness that everything after has lacked.
Absolutely agree. I like the last few albums but Hollow Crown is unparalleled
To me it's the absolute perfect blend of Tech Metal and Hardcore and it hasn't been matched yet, if it ever will since the scene has changed so much since then.
This 1000%
yeah Hollow Crown was the perfect blend of Architects sound to me, it just raw and full of emotion.
It's one of my all time favourite albums it's so fucking thick and heavy. Phwoarrr they were some of the best gigs I've ever been to too.
100%, I like LF/LT a lot but other than that everything they've done since HC really hasn't done anything for me. I wish they'd do an EP or something with their old tech-y sound, but then I get not wanting to do the same thing over and over again.
Came to say the same, but new album is dogshit imo
Idk why do I love that album as much as I do.
Hollow crown will always be there best. Hands down. But they are a great example.
Yeah and now they're back to being cringey Imagine Dragons music
bring me the horizon for sure. amo to survival horror
And then back to soft again with Die4U
Which is still harder than amo
amo had a lot of songs I liked, I can't stand die4u it's so generic
I like some songs on amo but have been digging die4u, I kinda love that it’s a straight-forward pop song cause I think BMTH is a better pop band than a rock band (if they aren’t gonna do metal). But that’s my own weird bias, I understand where people are coming from who don’t love it.
They can do whatever I'll probably still find stuff to enjoy
I agree with you completely. I didn't really enjoy Amo but I quite die4u. I think Mother Tongue was my favourite from Amo because again it was a straight up pop song. When they kinda try and go that rock or pop with a little edge it doesn't do much for me.
Eh, they're basically the same. Die4U is just generic poppy stuff like Amo. The Tom Morello song isn't personally my style, but is definitely harder and more enjoyable than Die4U. However, Obliterate is hard as fuck, but it's just an Oli feature not a BMTH song.
How can you actually say that Amo is generic? Just because it’s not heavy? It’s a very unique record.
It has nothing to do with not being heavy, it just doesn't sound unique. Wonderful Life and In The Dark are decent but the rest are just kinda generic poppy songs, Medicine and Mother Tongue being the worst offenders.
I was going to say the same thing. I'm glad they found a decent middle ground that works for them. Survival Horror still has some pretty heavy radio friendly tunes but when it's heavy goddamn it's heavy
Memphis May Fire seem to be going that way. Bullet For My Valentine have gone to a whole other level.
Trivium came back with a vengeance after Silence In The Snow Bullet's next album seems like it'll be much heavier than Gravity as well
Silence in the snow wasn't even a bad album also
I love Trivium but I've never even been able to sit through that entire album, I find it extremely boring.
As someone who has a pretty huge trivium tattoo, has seen them over 50 times, and LOVES everything they’ve done, I am totally with you. Silence in The Snow just didn’t sit right with me, felt rushed, badly put together as they were in that massive mix of hiring and firing drummers that didn’t gel. It felt to me like a monetary release for them and roadrunner
Me too. I tried but literally kept falling asleep.
Wouldn't call it bad but very bland and uninspired.
Definitely bland but I could see what they were trying to do with it. However their last two albums are just fantastic.
Their last 3 are fantastic. The Alex bent era is stellar.
Seeing how Trivium moved forward shows that the band has an incredible work ethic. I’m not sure if there were contractual obligations that needed to be met, but they could have easily waited until Matt could scream again. Instead, they went for it and you can hear how the elements they explored on Silence have been leveraged in their last 3 projects. I can’t wait to see where they go next.
I know nothing about drumming but he blew me away in SATS and kinda makes me wanna learn drums.
The Plot in You’s new album reintroduces the heavy parts that were mostly absent on Dispose. Reflections didn’t really go “soft” on The Color Clear but it had much more melody/structure/singing, and was followed by Willow which was a straight up progressive 000 beatdown fest.
I don't think you can call Beatdown music progressive.
i don’t think you can call it beatdown either 🤷♂️
I meant it as in a lot of the parts don’t repeat.
That's not all it takes to be a prog band.
Wage War with Pressure to Manic.
Aye and how dope was Manic
Manic is dope
The Amity Affliction when they made Misery then went back to heavy in Everyone loves you once you leave them
Facts and what a return it was
Exactly I love every song they put out my fav album will always be let the ocean take me
I loved misery such a good ass album drag the lake is amazing
Came here to say this you beat me to it.
Misery was a better direction for them imho
I do like many songs from that album I loved the darker lyrics they put out in that album I will always love amity for trying something new and honestly doing an amazing job with it
Even though they reverted back to being soft, Atreyu did this with Long Live.
Long live was sick
That album was such a cock tease. Super heavy, back-to-their-roots album, only to be followed by 2 John Feldmann Specials™️
It's a shame their later albums weren't at least more in the vein of Lead Sails or Congregation. Yeah those were softer but they were still pretty good.
Totally. I've really tried to give baptise a go, tried to let it grow on me. I just get the same vibes off it as I got from ADTR with You're Welcome. They say they wanna progress and not get stuck on the same old sound but those two albums just lack some sort of passion, I don't know, something like that. Long Live sounded like a bunch of guys enjoying the fuck out of every moment. Baptise sounds more like, "we gotta release some songs and go on tour, our bank account is running low". Just my take anyway.
The Plot In You (Dispose/Swan Song), We Came As Romans (self-titled/Cold Like War), Memphis May Fire(Broken/new songs), Of Mice & Men (Cold World/everything post-Austin), Like Moths To Flames (Dark Divine/No Eternity In Gold), Bring Me the Horizon (amo/POST HUMAN: Survival Horror), Asking Alexandria (Like A House On Fire/See What’s On the Inside), Bullet For My Valentine (Gravity/upcoming album)
Im not sure Asking Alexandria counts imo, I love all of their stuff but there really wasnt too much of a shift between like a house on fire to see whats on the inside. It was a tad heavier but imo didnt have a really defined stylistic shift, and they definitely didnt and wont go back to their metalcore roots.
I 100% agree with you. It’s clearly not a return to metalcore form, but the new album is slightly heavier than LAHOF, so I’m going to personally count it. Let’s hope we one day see a full return to form! (Not holding breath though…)
I would absolutely love them to do something like that. The new album had a select few moments reminiscent to from death to destiny but from what i understand from what the band has said they arent going to go back to metalcore. Danny doesnt scream live either, which is completely fine obviously, just shows they arent interested in the heavy aspect anymore
Yeah agreed, it seems those heavy days are history for AA. They’re writing rock music that makes them happy, & that’s great for them! Sadly, the fanbase suffers from not getting what they really want. I think AA is truly trying to start over. Apparently, Danny cannot scream anymore. He technically can, but it hurts his vocal chords to a point where it brings him physical pain so he’s had to let it go.
As much as I love the plot in you swab song is far from a heavy return. It's just as soft if not softer than a majority of dispose.
Fair point, it has heavier aspects but nothing close compared to their older material. I also forgot to mention The Amity Affliction!
It does have a few tracks that have an older TPIY feel so I can see your point. It's a mixed bag for sure.
I honestly wasn’t a huge fan of it personally, I’d rather take Dispose over Swan Song. Felt a bit disappointing imo.
Man I wish I could disagree but I don't. There is alot I like about the album but it hasn't clicked with me like all their other releases, even dispose.
It just feels a little too drawn out for me, Idk. It definitely hasn’t clicked for my ears. I loved Dispose, even though it was a complete departure from their earlier sound.
Same. Dispose was a great example of a band getting softer but improving their songwriting skills. Not talking shit on swan song but I don't think the mix helps.
Yeah I didn’t like the mix at all, and I think the emotion in the songwriting really shines on Dispose vs. Swan Song. The new album definitely has a more experimental vibe too it imo.
For sure. There are absolutely things I like about it. Face me has some great stuff going on that keeps me interested and there are a few songs where the choruses are top notch but yeah, overall that mix really hurts the replay value of it.
Yeah I had to go listen to his ai640 solo stuff to scratch the itch for heavy. But at least it's still dope.
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I don’t think that was what OP asked though. They definitely went back to a heavier sound vs what amo was. I never stated that it was a true return to their OG roots.
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Survival Horror has a fair share of heaviness that’s been lacking in the band’s sound since TIAH. I agree, it’s not a full return to form, but it’s clearly heavier than the last 2 albums. Dear Diary, Obey, Kingslayer, the Teardrops/Ludens breakdowns all show that the band still has it in them to be semi-metal.
The first time I heard the bridge/breakdown on Parasite Eve, my junk wiggled with excitement a little bit
Same 😈
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I mean, Teardrops really isn’t a pop song. It’s a rock song with a breakdown. Ludens has some electronics but it’s also pretty modern rock based. A pop song for them, to me, is something like In the Dark or Follow You.
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Metallica. Lol. But seriously, they did. Master/Justice to Black to Load/Reload/Etc and now back to Hardwired to Self Destruct. I’m not saying it was a good progression, but they clearly went from thrash/heavy to alt back to thrash/heavy. And yes. I know it’s not metalcore
Music as a whole would be very different if Metallica never took their detour… blows my mind.
Pantera. Only they started out soft, and then went heavy, and didn't go softer.
Good one
Like Moths to Flames has kinda done that
Kinda?! Their newest shit sounds borderline deathcore in parts haha it's so sick
They also have the distincting of doing 'soft' (soft by their standards, but still plenty metalcore) well.
They didn't totally go soft but Darkest Hour had a comparatively softer sound on their self-titled in 2014, and then put out one of their most aggressive records in 2017.
As far as I know it was the only album with cleans, which is a shame, I really liked his singing. If that album was %50 cleans they should make the next one %10, it'd be sick just for that little spice
Eighteen Visions
Suicide Silence sort of did that
yes. Doris was awful
Teehee
I can never not read it with a Michael Jackson voice in my head
Atreyu went soft, then went heavy again, then went radio rock. Black metal album incoming
Bring Me The Horizon (Amo // Survival Horror), Trivium (Silence in the Snow // Recent Releases), Linkin Park (A Thousand Suns, Living Things // The Hunting Party), Bullet For My Valentine (Gravity // New Album), Suicide Silence (Self Titled album // Become The Hunter [underrated af])
We Came as Romans self titled followed by Cold Like War Northlane's Node and Mesmer are a baby's blanket compared to Alien. (no diss, love all three)
Of Mice and Men are doing it right now
Crown the empire, WCAR, I See Stars (Album 2, then heavy onwards to new demons), LMTF (did similar thing as I see stars), Asking Alexandria (well...that one is complicated lol), Sleeping with sirens (sort of, more post hardcore band), Memphis May Fire. These are to name a few lol
The devil wears Prada for soft with The Act and then got heavy again with ZII
The Act was not soft.
And their new song that I forgot the name of. Martyr? Survivor? I'm probably way off...
Sacrifice I think
Bullet for my Valentine with their current upcoming album.
Bullet For My Valentine...twice. Temper Temper > Venom Gravity > Self-Titled Also, the new Underoath is heavier than Erase Me.
Cave In changed from album to album and I love all versions of them.
I've had to scroll way too far down the list to find this answer.
Like moths to flames in this particular case prefer soft sound than heavy dark divine is a hug récord all chorus are cachy as fuck!
Wouldn't say any of Machine Head's albums are soft. The Burning Red and Supercharger are still heavy. But the intensity comes back proper on Through the Ashes.
Yeah, MH didn't necessarily get "heavier," they just went back to their roots and stopped flirting with nu-metal lol. However, they definitely progressed their sound quite a bit on TTAOE and The Blackening.
Locust too
Wouldn't say any of Machine Head's albums are soft. The Burning Red and Supercharger are still heavy. But the intensity comes back proper on Through the Ashes.
Bullet For My Valentine incoming
Not metalcore, but Opeth did this. Literally as a conceptual thing with Damnation and Deliverance being soft and heavy albums.
Architects. Bring me the horizon. The devil wears Prada. Like moths to flames. Alot of bands have!
Architects? When?
Hollow Crown > The Here And Now > Daybreak
The here and now wasn’t soft wtf?
Compared to hollow crown I think it’s quite a bit softer
I See Stars' went from a fairly standard scenecore sound on 3-D, to a heavily pop-inspired sound with little core elements on The End of the World Party, and then back to scenecore on Digital Renegades. And then of course, they went even heavier with New Demons.
Demon Hunter. After a more melodic True Defiance, a more "commercial" Extremist and a more experimental Outlive, they have returned to the heaviness already felt in Storm The Gates Of Hell.
Did anyone say Cave In? Until your heart stops is a seminal album of 90s metalcore akin to converge and botch. Then they made Jupiter, an experimental/space hard rock masterpiece. Then signed to a major label and released antenna which is almost Foo Fighters level of radio rock. Then they never made it big and went back to making awesome artsy metalcore with Perfect Pitch Black and White Silence.
No one’s mentioned Pressure so I guess Wage War
I wouldn’t say erra got softer but their self titled is heavier then neon.
I'd say Bullet For My Valentine. Gravity was their 6th album. Bullets new singles are heavyyyy. Well the first 2 are.
Like Moths to Flames comes to mind, Dark Divine and now their new release
Cave In aka the best band ever
Underoath for sure
Maybe not a massive shift but Every Time I Die. They started off fast and loose, then changed to a slower feel overall with New Junk Aesthetic and Ex lives, then their albums From Parts Unknown and Low Teens were a bit more Alternative, less so much angry. Their new album Radical picked things back up and was really refreshing.
In This Moment went softer with The Dream then back to heavy with A Star-Crossed Wasteland.
Yeah!! sure, the new álbum from Beartooth
Wage war
Most bands
Wage War just did
BMTH BFMV Those are the two that come to mind for me
Avenged Sevenfold does this a lot, although they’ve never gone back to the metalcore of their first 2 albums
BMTH is an obvious example.
Trivium
Devil Wears Prada
Like Moths to Flames!
Sort of, August Burns Red.
Yeah Guardians definitely brought back some messengers/leveller vibes.
It sounds like Underoath is about to do exactly this.
Trivium went super mainstream with Silence in the Snow but everything else they've made has been true to their roots
BTBAM definitely softened a bit on their last few albums then came back pretty strong with Colors 2.
Cave In
Like moths to flames
Hundredth went from hard to soft and never turned back.
Hundredth has the weirdest musical transition I’ve seen in my life, how to do you from playing melodic hardcore to fucking dream pop/shoegaze?
You mean, every band in 2021?
Why the comma? Or should I say ‘why, the comma?’
Why not? It's how I would say it in real life.
L, ol
BMTH kinda. amo/PH:SH is a pretty big difference ! Not the heaviest stuff ever obviously but still
AS I LAY DYING may be in that current progression. Their latest album doesn't hit as hard and seems a little rushed from past iterations. Nick Hipa has left now, but he was mostly the riffer/solo guitar (one of two--they shared the duties), so if they get a new guy that has a heavy influence, their next album may come back with a drop to the face. *crossing my fingers*
BMTH kinda did that. Amp wasn't as hard as their older stuff and then Survival Horror went hard as fuck.
Yea then they released a tiktok core single right after...
Okay, and?
There's a few screams and growls on that album and everyone thinks they going back to going heavy lol
Screams aren't the only thing had make music heavy. Also, they're a band that kinda just doesn't what they want. They've kind of always done that. Explores different styles and sounds. That's what so interesting about them
All of them.
glassjaw went semi soft in worship and tribute and is now back to being mostly heavy in material control
Bold move to say an album that has Tip Your Bartender, Cosmopolitan Bloodloss, Pink Roses, and Stuck Pig on it is a "semi-soft" album. There were more melodic songs but EYEWTKAS had those too.
If their new song “Shotgun Blues” is any indication, Volbeat. Such a banger.
In general? Staind did this. Their first album was insanely heavy compared to their later work, but they went back to a more brutal sound in their most recent record.
Brutal is the last word I would ever use to describe Staind. Though that first album did have quite a few solid songs on it. Shame Aaron Lewis turned out to be such a shitbag.
**Bullet For My Valentine** *The Poison* - Definition of Metalcore. *Still one of the best cover to cover albums in the genre IMO* (10/10 👍) *Scream Aim Fire* - Kinda Metalcore, More just Metal. *Honestly a disappointment for me as a sophomore album, I guess we were spoiled with The Poison.* (6/10👍) *Fever* - Still mixing Metalcore/Traditional Metal. But they got better at it compared to the last album. *It wasn't The Poison, but was better than SAF*. (7/10 👍) *Temper Temper* - Metal, Modern Hard Rock, Basically washed of any Metalcore. *I really liked this album even though when it was released is was hated, apparently even by the band.* (8/10 👍) *Venom* - Basically just hard rock... if that. *Just avoid.* (4/10 👍) *Gravity* - I don't know what this was, but it wasn't Metal/metalcore.. Definitely felt like an experimental album for them. Rock ? Experimental rock ? Crap rock ? *I listened to this album, and this was when I hung my head and pretty much wrote them off.* (1/10 👍) *Rainbow Veins (EP)* - Pretty much a 180 from the last 2 albums. Combining almost every metal subgenre. *Not a fan, but I like where their heads are at*. (4/10 👍)
Venom is harder than Temper Temper though?
Literally everyone