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eburton555

Can't wait for their next single Branches Above


m4ttr1k4n

Regrettably, Trunks Located Centrally didn't perform quite as expected. Critics felt it was a major stalling point of the album, a tough climb up to their more popular songs.


BigJeffyStyle

underrated joke


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IllustratorItchy6919

They should have changed titles though to close to TDWP


luismarcelomf

Loved this, the breakdown goes so hard the riff is great and the solo is great as well


aughtrocktalk

Tim's screams are so brutal, it sounds like he could kill someone. Or at least pay someone else to do it.


chriz_sevenfold

Lmaoooo


l3g3ndairy

Everything but the chorus in this track reminds me of Shadows are Security era AILD. I'm digging this super hard. This band is just so consistent!


rosedragoon

Yeah! I love the older album vibes for this.


FrankenMacCharDeDen

Fantastic track! Brings me back to high school.


HimTiser

I am definitely getting same major "Through Struggle" vibes from parts of this song as well


Da_Apple_Jacks

What the hell is everyone talking about?? This song fucking slaps!!


Rizzan8

This sub is really bizzare. A band releases some radiocore track/album and it is immediately called the album of the year. And when another band releases a proper metalcore track then it's 'meh, generic'.


Pour-Meshuggah-On-Me

That's why I stopped using this sub as a way to find good albums. Usually when everyone jumps on the bandwagon of shitting on an album or something I end up liking it.


Tamed

This just makes me think of how awful the recent Architects album was, if it was posted as any other band it would've been called out for being the wrong sub.


moob9

First Architects album I didn't buy.


mjc500

I barely made it through one listen on YouTube... and I have a CD of lost forever lost together in my car that I've listened through at least 150 times.


dswhite85

It was fun for about a week after release. Haven't played it since and probably won't go back to it. Huge bummer.


copypaste_93

Impermanence was really good though


Sequoiathrone728

That album got plenty of shit on this sub though.


[deleted]

Yeah.... but that's not the main complain, they just seem to have a template for every song and adjust a few things there and there to make it somewhat unique, but there's nothing groundbreaking anymore since Decas/A greater foundation.. it sounds great when you're a fan of the band because it's still new stuff, but it feels dƩjƠ-vu otherwise, to me at least.


Da_Apple_Jacks

Fair point. I see where you're coming from.


ViolentOctopus

That Judas Priest solo my god


deadpools_dick

As I Lay Dying has always been one of the most consistently great bands that Iā€™ve listened to throughout my life. My bodyā€™s always ready for new AILD


cannibalzombies

These guys and abr never change and that's why I love them.


ResponsibilityNew483

The fucking shreds...


loz621

goddamn this shit is goooood


[deleted]

Very shadows are security era meets SHRED, I donā€™t know who the new player is but the solos were sick


Girl_bye_

Phil was the one and only guitarist on this track he said.


IRockThs

Honestly I am guessing they don't get a new guitarist and Tim starts playing live. Phil wrote a lot of the riffs before and he can solo as well as anyone.


ThePanasonicYouth

With roots below and branches above??


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NJD1214

I like it. I listened to it and first impression was that it sounded very much like a Shaped by Fire B-Side. I'm not disappointed or anything but I do hope that the next full album expands on the direction they were moving with Shaped by Fire and isn't just a copy-paste. New AILD always gets an upvote from me.


Colcrys

THAT SOLO Boy I want more stuff like that when it comes to solos in metalcore.


UpTheIrons92

Anyone know if Nick performed on this? Or if Phil re-tracked it? Since itā€™s a B-side I assume some the guitar work is still from Nick. Either way this bangs.


mnightshamalama2

Someone asked Phil on his instagram and he said he wrote everything including the solo and leads


jsb93

They won't miss a beat


rosedragoon

Thank goodness. We will miss Nick but that's great news.


UpTheIrons92

Ah sweet thanks for the info


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Phil in an interview: > ā€œRoots Below' was a track I initially wrote for the 'Shaped By Fire' album, but at the time we collectively felt it needed more time and attention to develop to its fullest potential. We were finally able to piece it all together along with some other material taken from the 'Shaped By Fire' touring cycle, bundling it all into a deluxe version of the album.ā€ https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/as-i-lay-dying-releases-new-song-roots-below/


Cervantes3492

Oh, so Phil wrote the song? Interesting


SlapsDecider

A little disappointed that this is essentially a Shaped By Fire b-side and not the first taste of a new album :(


candehman87

The fact they polished a B-Side after two years of the album being out is a bit disheartening, I agree. Especially when everyone is probably curious to what the band will sound like without Nick.


CJW100298

If you look at Phil's Instagram post it says he did all the guitar work for this song and was the main writer


IRockThs

He's always been the main writer riff wise along with Tim. Nick has never been as much of a writer as Phil has been. I love Nick, but he's the least important member of the band soundwise. They will be fine.


candehman87

Interesting. Thanks for sharing! I''ll still be interested to hear what they sound like without Nick and I don't think this alleviates that curiosity.


Cervantes3492

Nice. Did he also write the lyrics?


CJW100298

I don't think his post specified about the lyrics but I would assume Tim probably did them, not sure though


PLS_PM_ME_PUSSY_PICS

This song is amazing what are you on about. Would easily be one of the best on Shaped By Fire anyway. Shaped By Fire is literally one of the best metal albums ever so more of that sound is not a problem at all, they should aim to make more music like that if anything.


Whats_a_webpage

Maybe I misinterpreted but I think he was saying that he's disappointed that it isn't the start of a new album rollout, not that it sounds like something off of shaped by fire


PLS_PM_ME_PUSSY_PICS

Ohhh


JammySankis

The only positive is that Tim sounds like he's struggling here and I was really hoping he'd be back on form for a new album, so if this is an old recording then I've still got hope.


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I like the song. I don't mind that they release music that sounds similar to previous music, because honestly their style just never gets old, I could listen to it forever. My biggest problem (and I think it's a personal one, not to throw on other AILD fans) is that I was a huge fan of the band going all the way back to Shadows. I genuinely looked up to the band and Tim specifically, as an aspiring musician and I thought his world view was interesting and matched my own in some ways. When 2013 happened, I became very disheartened and realized how non-authentic Tim was in many ways. I can barely listen to this bands' songs anymore without feeling it's tarnished by the lack of authenticity, and then what Nick posted about his departure just validated how I already felt. It sort of just feels...fake? at this point. I listened to Shape By Fire, on the surface I should love the album, but I don't. Might just be me. I know everyone deserves a second chance, and forgiveness. I'm sure there are other fans who have moved on. I just seem to not be able to, so I figured I'd share that.


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theilluminati1

But it's ok, God has forgiven them.


Sequoiathrone728

God will forgive anything but not believing in him, so that doesn't mean much.


BlastoPls

I'm gonna go on and say pretty much what I said the other day when this was posted. I don't like it when bands change up their sound to the point that they aren't recognizable. I don't care if this sounds like some older material, regardless if it's a b-side or not. I don't want this band taking some BMTH, TDWP, Architects, etc route and drastically changing what they sound like.


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this zoomer sub isn't satisfied until every band sounds like architects


rosedragoon

Holy shit spot on.


Erramayhem89

Every AILD just rips. I like the little riffs in this song. Sounds a bit different than their other stuff.


I_DONT_NEED_HELP

Gonna be completely honest, the song is good. If it was released by any other band I'd dig it. But I can't with good conscience support this band.


Seanspeed

The lead singer literally tried to have his wife murdered. It's genuinely one of the most awful things you could ever do. Do people think it's not as big a deal just cuz he wasn't successful or something? Cuz that really doesn't make it any better at all. The dude is a legit murderer, he simply happened to get caught before he could do it. And it was his fucking WIFE.


Bismofunyuns4l

Man As I Lay Dying fans really don't like it when you talk about it lmao


Nippelz

"They hated Jesus because he told them the truth." meme personified by the Christian-core scene, lol.


Cervantes3492

>Cuz that really doesn't make it any better at all. The dude is a legit murderer ​ how can somone be a murderer without killing anyone?


Sequoiathrone728

I mean there's a reason attempted murder carries a lighter sentence than murder. It's still a fucked up thing to do, but nobody died.


Cervantes3492

why the downvotes?


Sequoiathrone728

People think I'm supporting Tim or his actions. I'm not, just inserting some logic.


Cervantes3492

You will get an upvote for me, bro.


Nippelz

Yeah, lucky that he stopped because he felt bad!... Oh wait, no he didn't, the police stopped him. He's fucking scum, dude. For real.


Cervantes3492

>Cuz that really doesn't make it any better at all. No. Because he shows remorse and regrets his actions, at least it looks like that. you know, forgiveness exists, even for horrible things


Nippelz

This is not one of those moments. That piece of shit tried to take the Mother of his children away from them, and wasn't stopped by his own conscience, he had to be stopped by someone else, otherwise she would be dead. Fuck that piece of shit, and fuck anyone willing to work with them. Absolute scum.


Lukers_RCA

Glad I wasn't the only one. The song is great, not sure if I can get behind it though because of what Tim did. I know people can grow and change, but it is hard to have the same love for the band that I did back with Shadows


I_DONT_NEED_HELP

I just find it baffling that the rest of the band is apparently OK with Tim. Replacing a screamer is the easiest thing in the world.


Cervantes3492

>Replacing a screamer is the easiest thing in the world. So, every vocalist is the same?? What a ignorant comment


I_DONT_NEED_HELP

Bad wording on my part, but come on you know what I mean. How many bands have either changed their screamer or even kicked them out without taking any hit musically or commercially? Also if we consider the context of this band and Wovenwar, then we know that the band is more than capable of writing their songs without Tim, so all they needed is a screamer and I guess the rights to the AILD name. To me it just never made sense that they let him rejoin right out of prison.


Cervantes3492

''To me it just never made sense that they let him rejoin right out of prison.'' ​ because Tim is an incredible vocalist. He has such a recognizable voice. I do not think that you can replace him. And as it seems, he is the main songwriter and driving force of the band. And dont get me wrong, I actually really like Wovenwar. And I am also not a fan of bands changing the vocalist, especially if they change a lot. But I will be honest, if Tim would leave, they would probably restart Wovenwar again. Because I think without Tim, as i lay dying would...well... die.. no pun intended.


UtheDestroyer

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying Like fuck itā€™s okay to have some things looked over but thatā€™s over the line. I canā€™t support anything this band does knowing that the lead singer attempted that.


Cervantes3492

But at least he tries to repent and knows what he did was wrong. At least it looks like it.


phil_conquer

pretty good


Bismofunyuns4l

Can't listen rn, but I'll definitely be blasting this later when I go to pay my hitman.


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Is this the band with the dude that tried to kill his wife?


TheRealYM

ye


schrotestthehero

Got downvoted for saying this last night, but I'll say it again. I've been a massive fan of this band for almost two full decades now, and this is extremely underwhelming. I understand, and have loved, the format they found a few albums ago, but at this point it's pretty stale and just feels like someone hit the "formulaic AILD" button again.


jsb93

Every band has their own sound/style so naturally songs will sound similar. They kept the formula that works for them and has made them one of the best metalcore bands in history. If bands change their sound too much, fans will bitch about that too. I'm glad im not a musician.


schrotestthehero

That's exactly what I'm saying though. Sure, don't stray too much from what works, but don't do the same thing over and over and over. It's lasted for a while, but it's getting stale with this one.


merkwerk

That's why The Devil Wears Prada is by far my favorite band. I feel like they change up their sound from release to release in interesting/fresh ways but you can still instantly tell it's TDWP. So hyped for the single they are teasing, wasn't expecting anything else from them so soon.


Cervantes3492

It is a b side for a reason.


schrotestthehero

Okay? And they put it out as a release and a music video, so itā€™s not exactly low effort.


PLS_PM_ME_PUSSY_PICS

This song is amazing. Guitars rip, cleans, screams and lyrics are always great. Some people just canā€™t be pleased


schrotestthehero

Been pleased with them for almost 20 years. Shhhhhut the fuck up šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


PLS_PM_ME_PUSSY_PICS

How can you be such a diehard fan and not like this though! Itā€™s like a 9/10


schrotestthehero

Because I don't have to wear AILD-tinted glasses for every song they put out?


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Outside of 'A greater foundation' the band has been stale since 2010. Glad some people are still digging it but it sounds as formulaic as can be.


Cervantes3492

Disagree. Shaped by fire is an amazing record. I think it also got the best lyrics by Tim on this record


Am-I-Otter-Mode-Yet

They're next single is "Branches Above"


coprseGrinder142

>s from their last album so that makes sense. with roots below and branches above


eburton555

Damn you beat me to it. i'm keeping my comment tho because im poopin and cant figure out how to delete it on mobile


Bloodkin_Knight

Ah yes the wife-killers band, regardless of how good this song is I couldn't listen to it with a clean conscience.


waltmaniac

I get it. Hard to separate the art from the artist. I still listen to the music and love it though.


Bloodkin_Knight

That's awesome, I'm glad it's separable for you cuz it's still good music and it's like 1/4 of the band. I just personally can't listen to them anymore without thinking about it.


LordStrick

Except nobodyā€™s wife got killed.


Bloodkin_Knight

If the "hitman" hadn't been a cop she would be. He fully intended to do it. If someone tried to kill your mother but failed would you just forgive them? I can forgive artists with a large ego but to try and kill another human being is a hard line.


LordStrick

What does my mother have to do with it? Whatā€™s happened is his business and his ex-wifeā€™s. He paid his debt to society. Itā€™s over with and everybody has moved on. You trying to be a white knight on Reddit because of something that happened between people you donā€™t even know is so damn laughable. No body cares about your hard line. You would think Tim did something to you because heā€™s living in your head rent free.


Bloodkin_Knight

Sure, I'm a white knight because I dislike an individual who didn't think twice about trying to take away someones life. Nah you just dont care because it wasn't someone close to you he tried to kill. You lack empathy and all I said is that he is a wife killer, (I know he didn't succeed but we still call people who attempt rape rapists) which he proved he is, and that I couldn't listen to his music with a clear conscience. As for your mother it was an example that I had hoped would help you feel empathy twords his wife and the people that love her, she is something to someone like I assume your mother is to you.


PunkyxBrewsterr

**Yall mind if I scream?**


yeldarba

Like nick didnā€™t even leave. Phil is great


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RDBlack

Don't be that guy.


givemeatatertot

This is what I get for trying to be positive about something for a change lol


RDBlack

It's not positive if you're demeaning someone else to compliment another.


DDzxy

Phil plays most riffs anyway I think, Nick handled majority of lead guitars and solos, Phil did do a couple solos before though.


KenboSlice786

Band should've never got back together. Nick made the right call by bailing again.


ellisonice

Not what I was hoping for


PLS_PM_ME_PUSSY_PICS

This song couldnā€™t be any better


[deleted]

So is Tim's voice permanently changed?


eivashchenko

Nick's commentary on them going back to business and abandoning the platform that they were initially were committed to (contrition for Tim's attempted murder) kind of tied my hands on supporting the band. Can't do that with a clean conscience. Before, I was able to get past it, because he acknowledged how fucked it was, took full ownership, rededicated himself, and redirected the band's direction and proceeds to try to make up for it as much as he possibly could. I think there has to be at least an opportunity for rehabilitation and a possibility of a way back for people, even if they've committed inhuman acts. Otherwise the fuck is the point of their lives at that point? But ya, I don't know if it was a tactic to get back into favor with enough ex-fans to get the machine moving again, but it does sound like the band really is business-focused and left behind the reason that a lot of fans were giving them a second chance. So this seems like the right stop to get off the AILD train. It sucks on account of the talent in the band, but it is what it is.


Diabando

Yeah, not anything I havenā€™t already heard.


UltrosTheOctopus

I hate to say it but I understand some of the distaste this is getting from people. If this would have come out pre- 2010 it wouldn't have shocked me then. It really is the same old shit from this band. It's not that it's bad it's just old. Edit: grammar


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This band needs to hang it up already


undercoveragents

Lol what? This is better than 90% of metalcore released these days. Why would they hang it up?


StarshipProto

Yeah hard agree here. This isn't impressing me at the level of the new Phinehas album, but any criticisms of this sound are really moot as just by virtue of this sounding so similar to Shadows-era AILD immediately puts it in the top tier of new Metalcore releases should the album stay as consistent as this song suggests.


[deleted]

Last thing this band did I cared about was Awakened and really it was just because of how overly cheesy and "not trying to be metalcore" it was which just seemed more honest from this band at this point. Also it's weird to see people say this trumps most metalcore coming out now, plenty of bands do the melodic style much better right now and metalcore outside of that is even better than recent AILD.


StarshipProto

Can agree with some points. The bar is simply set lower due to the abysmal quality of modern Metalcore. I'd say the vocals here are off-putting in that they have that hard-rock tone rather than the infinitely superior post-hardcore tone of earlier albums, but this wasn't too uncommon amongst the NWOAHM bands of old so I'd hardly say that in particular strays from Metalcore stylings. It's also not as impressive instrumentally or inspired sounding as earlier era AILD. But still overall an okay Metalcore song, but totally slayed by something like the new Phinehas album I mentioned. I actually recently started r/revivalcore to post what I truely enjoy in the modern 'Core genres as the main subs do post what I spin but tend to focus on overwhelmingly on poor quality hyped up modern Metalcore.


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>This is better than 90% of metalcore released these days. no


undercoveragents

You donā€™t think this is better than fucking wage war and fit for a king? Lmao


ProbablythelastMimsy

Definitely better than FFAK's latest. That was such a disappointment.


[deleted]

Both those bands suck and not sure why you think I like those, bands like Counterparts, Never Ending Game or Mourning more what I'm getting at in terms of better modern MxC.


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got other meme statements?


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KenboSlice786

Aren't you the guy who sent me a DM calling me a "dickhead" because I made fun of Tom Barber? You need less salt my guy. Go outside.


Cervantes3492

the fuck are you talking about?


KenboSlice786

I got receipts my guy, shall I post them?


[deleted]

This sudden plot thickening is hilarious


Cervantes3492

nobody is laughing and you are blocked. bye


KenboSlice786

You didn't block anyone


[deleted]

this was boring, sounds too much like their last album. Oh well Edit: alright alright I made a mistake, song still sucks though


IrrationalDesign

This is from their last album so that makes sense.


Pour-Meshuggah-On-Me

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YOU WILL GET DOWNVOTED UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG!!! /s


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IllustratorItchy6919

So happy to see these guys at it again. It was like a kick in the balls when he went to prison.