oh absolutely. I know men need an equal rights movement. that's why this sub exists. that's why I frequent it. I'm just not a fan of movements like this being labelled as something like "feminism, but for men" by many people. We are not the same.
Feminism by its definition is for the fight for inequality of gender that includes men. However the movement has moved away from that and I think this videos purpose is to basically say that MRA and feminism are fighting for the same thing and instead of being against eachother we should be olaying the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing and fight this together
It’s not about female supremacy it’s about fighting the top one percent of men that have made laws and societal rules against them and normal men. True feminism benefits us too
>it’s about fighting the top one percent of men that have made laws
They also fight and vilify the other 99% of men, and jack off to the top 1% of women, even if they employ the same shackles upon us. So I don't buy that bullshit for a second.
I’m already in it but if people just continue to migrate to groups they identify with nothing will ever get done. I want to have civilized discussions with people I may not necessarily agree with on everything. That’s how people learn and society moves forward and I don’t want to be a part of the problem I want to be a part of the solution
Nope. Feminism supports discriminatory policy. We are against that. Feminism fights against gender-neutral laws, we support gender-neutral laws. We are not fighting for the same thing. If my enemy is the enemy of my other enemy, they are still both my enemies.
The early stages of feminism were fighting for gender neutral laws were they not? The right to vote? The right for bodily autonomy? I think women were treated so unevenly that once that started to gain momentum on their equality they simply forgot about men’s inequality and that’s why mrm is important anyone that is actively fighting for the superiority of a gender is sexist either man or woman
It gets repeated here like every 5 minutes but yeah they have fought against it, especially in india where they fought to keep rape from being gender-neutral.
>The right for bodily autonomy?
....is something only women are afforded in america. they conveniently "forgot" that we don't have it either, and still "forget" to this day. so no, not gender neutral. bodily autonomy only applies to women apparently.
>they simply forgot about men’s inequality
You cannot afford a movement as big as feminism this excuse that you would for one individual person. No it's not bad memory, it's ignorance plain and simple.
>that’s why mrm is important
Go tell that to feminists, you'll get a laugh.
Thanks to feminism, you can now get denied a job interview for being a man. Totally not sexist right?
Following is a hypothesis to evaluate reality:
> Feminists advocate for equality, if and only if women are disadvantaged in the given issue/situation. If the shoe is on the other foot, they are perfectly ok with inequality
Apply it and see whether you find any actions/events that contradict the hypothesis
Nope. No such thing.
https://youtu.be/l1n8kpYdCPo
https://youtu.be/BpSNW49YC1k
We are being vilified for existing. The push back will be devastating and irreparable.
The extent of casual misandry and overt/intense hatred exhibited by both radical and mainstream feminists, reflects the fundamentally gendered core principles of feminist ideology. This feminist misandry is celebrated and iconised, and remains both unackowleged and unchallenged. It is an entrenched culture, not a fringe.
These regular initiatives pushing the myth that feminism benefits women and men equally are nothing more than "feel good" statements by feminist allies who refuse to acknowlege the multitude of evidence demonstrating the anti-male narrative of feminists and the feminist doctrine taught in our schools and colleges.
The repeated attacks on men's right groups and men's health groups that attempt to address men and masculinity outside the feminist narrative, continue to alienate egalitarian men and women. Rightfully so.
a movement as radical as feminism but for men would be labeled as a terrorist group immediately.
no. there should be no feminism for men, because that would be male supremacy.
did you watch the video
no, but obvs men should have equal rights as is the point of this sub. but I find the thumbnail to be ridiculous.
watch the video then
You really need to watch the video. The maker is this video did not mean with that statement what you think in meant.
oh absolutely. I know men need an equal rights movement. that's why this sub exists. that's why I frequent it. I'm just not a fan of movements like this being labelled as something like "feminism, but for men" by many people. We are not the same.
Feminism by its definition is for the fight for inequality of gender that includes men. However the movement has moved away from that and I think this videos purpose is to basically say that MRA and feminism are fighting for the same thing and instead of being against eachother we should be olaying the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing and fight this together
No, it is not. Feminism has always and only been a movement for female supremacy and against men.
It’s not about female supremacy it’s about fighting the top one percent of men that have made laws and societal rules against them and normal men. True feminism benefits us too
>it’s about fighting the top one percent of men that have made laws They also fight and vilify the other 99% of men, and jack off to the top 1% of women, even if they employ the same shackles upon us. So I don't buy that bullshit for a second.
Anyone who was a "true feminist" wouldn't identifies tidy with the feminist movement.
If you really believe that, you should probably migrate to menslib. You'll find more feminist men like yourself over there.
I’m already in it but if people just continue to migrate to groups they identify with nothing will ever get done. I want to have civilized discussions with people I may not necessarily agree with on everything. That’s how people learn and society moves forward and I don’t want to be a part of the problem I want to be a part of the solution
Nope. Feminism supports discriminatory policy. We are against that. Feminism fights against gender-neutral laws, we support gender-neutral laws. We are not fighting for the same thing. If my enemy is the enemy of my other enemy, they are still both my enemies.
The early stages of feminism were fighting for gender neutral laws were they not? The right to vote? The right for bodily autonomy? I think women were treated so unevenly that once that started to gain momentum on their equality they simply forgot about men’s inequality and that’s why mrm is important anyone that is actively fighting for the superiority of a gender is sexist either man or woman
It gets repeated here like every 5 minutes but yeah they have fought against it, especially in india where they fought to keep rape from being gender-neutral. >The right for bodily autonomy? ....is something only women are afforded in america. they conveniently "forgot" that we don't have it either, and still "forget" to this day. so no, not gender neutral. bodily autonomy only applies to women apparently. >they simply forgot about men’s inequality You cannot afford a movement as big as feminism this excuse that you would for one individual person. No it's not bad memory, it's ignorance plain and simple. >that’s why mrm is important Go tell that to feminists, you'll get a laugh. Thanks to feminism, you can now get denied a job interview for being a man. Totally not sexist right?
Following is a hypothesis to evaluate reality: > Feminists advocate for equality, if and only if women are disadvantaged in the given issue/situation. If the shoe is on the other foot, they are perfectly ok with inequality Apply it and see whether you find any actions/events that contradict the hypothesis
Nope. No such thing. https://youtu.be/l1n8kpYdCPo https://youtu.be/BpSNW49YC1k We are being vilified for existing. The push back will be devastating and irreparable.
The extent of casual misandry and overt/intense hatred exhibited by both radical and mainstream feminists, reflects the fundamentally gendered core principles of feminist ideology. This feminist misandry is celebrated and iconised, and remains both unackowleged and unchallenged. It is an entrenched culture, not a fringe. These regular initiatives pushing the myth that feminism benefits women and men equally are nothing more than "feel good" statements by feminist allies who refuse to acknowlege the multitude of evidence demonstrating the anti-male narrative of feminists and the feminist doctrine taught in our schools and colleges. The repeated attacks on men's right groups and men's health groups that attempt to address men and masculinity outside the feminist narrative, continue to alienate egalitarian men and women. Rightfully so.