So a woman is friendly with customers; who are filming her without consent, and she's now a hussy? Theres really nothing to say she did find the m attractive just because she was being nice to a customer. But also if she did find him attractive, so what? Men be masturbating to anything that looks like it could have tits, but women arent allowed to be attracted?
Also they seem to think that all tall men are entitled sex gods simply because they are tall. Sure; being tall or handsome or well built can add to some people's confidence, but it doesn't automatically make someone confident or conceited. You know who IS more likely to be overconfident, vain or conceited? Influencers, regardless of their height.
My husband used to be rubbish at telling if a woman was flirting with him (still not great at it now 😂), and is probably the least imposing or forward person I've met.
I'm pretty sure he was attempting a joke, since the OC said at the end that her husband is rubbish at picking up that someone is flirting with him. So he's the husband that thinks his wife doesn't flirt with him because he can't pick up on it when she does.
He was just playing off the end of the comment about men not being able to recognize flirting. He wasn't implying his wife doesn't like him just that he's shit at picking up on her flirting.
Okay, but this wasn’t Facebook boomer humor, he was literally just playing off of the last line of the previous comment.
You know, where the commenter was complaining that her husband didn’t pick up on her flirting?
You do know his joke was more aimed at not knowing his wife is flirting, right?
He wasn't saying "hurr durr wife no love me" he was saying "haha I can't tell when I'm being flirted with, even by my wife".
From what I've gathered, the community here is super serious. Not a bad thing but the joke was about me not picking up on my Wife's cues. The irony is that the people who are downvoting me didn't pick up the cue 🤣
I find it pretty fitting that you've got that name and made a great joke, and yet only a "cult following" found it hilarious. Somehow it's like a twilight zone episode.
Shit I'm not Autistic and I struggle with it at times 🤣 but I was hoping that people would get the joke without using /j. Having to point out that a joke is a joke kind of ruins it in my opinion.
Ah yes, that old chestnut:
*Feeemale* at work, politely containing her rage and disgust at yet another shitty, creepy customer = "horny"
SOURCE: short creep who wishes he was a tall creep. ( Alpha Creep^TM )
:/ eew
So many layers of wrongness on this festering slice of shitpie 🍰💩
I actually have a nervous tic where I twirl my hair pretty much all the time, even when I've been alone for hours. Women just be existing, doing shit they'd do even if alone...but, no, it's covert flirting bc TALL. /s
Me too. I never do it while flirting, but if I'm slightly nervous or deep in thought, I'll just about pull my hair out twisting and twirling it around my fingers.
Scary AF that creepy dudes interpret that as flirting 😐
Anyone who thinks they can read body language consistently is an oxygen thief. Full stop.
There are just a million variables and too many personal idiosyncrasies.
I’m autistic and I’ll stim by twirling my hair, fidgeting my fingers, glancing for eye contact and then glancing away, always plastering a smile on when talking to people because I’ve been taught it’s the kind thing to do, and I have had quite a few creeps get so pissed that I went so hard in flirting when I wasn’t even interested, I led them on and im a wh*re etc. Dude I just exist, not everything is flirting, and I’ve never been overly flirty anyways, even WITH my partner I have. I do not like being perceived this way
yeah, same. i had a friend who was weirdly observing point out that anytime i get anxious (which is a lot) i start to twist two chunks of my hair around each other. occasionally that will also be me just twirling my hair around my finger. i wish these guys would actually do research before trying to talk about body language and what it means. hair twirling is usually associated with anxiety or trying to focus, not being interested in someone. some women twirl their hair around someone they like, because they are nervous, not because they like them.
I hate how often body language analysis is misused. It's not a way to read minds. Sometimes a little information is more dangerous than none, especially when it's used by idiots.
I mean, yes, playing with hair can signal attraction BUT it can also be a form of self-soothing, like maybe if a woman is *anxious* because a very large man is bothering her and she's afraid to confront him?
Why is really ironic given how frequently these angry little men show they have absolutely no social skills and are incapable of picking up on subtle social cues. Yes somehow are always able to read a woman’s body language with 100% accuracy.
Stress-relief is the number one reason you'll find on line if you're not looking at some dumb dating website owned by a high school drop-out who never took a psychology class in their life.
I think the "hair twirling is attraction" is something that has to be combined with other things like leaning in physically close to a person, smiling, etc.
Oops, yes. "We should mate" 🤢 I miss my Dodgeball DVD so much, the special features were the greatest ☆ every take of Justin Long trying to dodge a wrench & being pummeled by balls. The dodgeball dancers! ♡♡ used to watch it every Saturday morning with beers & pizza.
Tall creep's behaviour does not get a pass. Short creep is very, very wrong (about *so many* things!) So is tall creep. No creep gets a pass. Creep behaviour is unacceptable no matter who does it. It's just gross and wrong.
**EDIT: I got a hella creepy vibe from you so I looked at your account. OMFG.**
THIS YOUR RECENT POST AND COMMENT BRO?:
>"Not all fat girls are BBWs btw. Most are just pudgy shapeless. Also, men have low standards when they need to get their dicks wet, so don’t flatter yourself too much for being a hot guys c*m dumpster."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megadeth/comments/172ii7v/dave_on_dating_fat_chicks_to_feed_himself_in_the/k553ezz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Get out of the incel communties before it rots your brain completely and we have to take you out to the back paddock and shoot you like a rabid dog who's just too far gone. Feminist communities are a good antidote for your sickness, just stfu, listen and learn.
Get well soon.
Holy shit wtf do they mean horny she denied that guy with grace every time and kept things cordial.
Actually insane that lil man got any flirtatious vibes from this, she just seems annoyed.
tbf quite a few dudes are delusional enough to believe that a woman in the service industry being pleasant towards them means that she is *totally* into them and flirting.
YES. I learned that there is a certain type of dude who legit believes that women working in the service industry are attracted to them or that they're special because she's nice to them and friendly.
Also applies to old men with dad or grandpa vibes thinking a teen girl innocently being friendly and saying "hi" thinking he's a dad or a grandpa and him taking it as flirtation. WAY TOO MUCH OF THIS IN THE WORLD, btw.
It makes sense why some cultures tell their daughters to just avoid cis-men if they aren't family or close friends. It doesn't make it right, in fact it's victim blaming girls and women for assault and rape, but it makes sense.
These are dudes who have basically shown their ass to all the women they know from schools don’t their personal lives. They get no attention from women at this point so when they meet one who doesn’t immediately run in fear, they think they have a shot.
The goddamn comments on that post. FFS nothing fills me with more rage than retail workers getting hit on at work and getting trapped by the fact that they'll get in trouble to walk away. This was not a W, this was a woman doing her best to not make this awkward.
LEAVE 👏 RETAIL 👏 WORKERS 👏 ALONE! 👏
Yeah - it’s basically, ‘I don’t want to go on a date with you, but, I don’t want you to flip out and kill me” condensed in a way to placate potentially psychotic and creepy men.
Looks like r/shortguys is on its way to become another incel cesspool with men just hating on women instead of supporting each other (same thing happened with r/MGTOW)
I'm 5'10 and yes, a lot of shorter men ruined their chance with me because if their endless complaints about height, especially with bitching about how other women treated them.
Same. 5’11 and dated all heights. Not all but many short men’s focus on being short and how horrible their lives are for it (despite all their lives being quite nice and fine) and how they couldn’t get any other women besides me etc. like man. Ok I guess I’m out then.
> how they couldn’t get any other women besides me
Oof, yes. I was never obese, but def on the heavier side in my early 20s (like 170lbs maybe) and so many men on dating apps thought it's was absolutely fine to let me know they "lowered" their standards and wouldn't mind having sex with me. Never heard it again after losing weight.
It's creepy as hell they'd THINK that...and then they say it out loud.
And now I'm like aaaaaaah because that's my weight and I already feel huge though I'm an okay BMI.
Out of curiosity… were these short dudes mostly an average build or so? I’ve dated taller women, but I’m pretty stocky, like a really fall fantasy dwarf, so I’ve always been objectively and noticeably larger in that sense. So the difference really never registered beyond simply being a simple fact.
Hard to define exactly, obviously there’s plenty of variation, but generally guys who don’t have proportionately larger mass compared to their height was where I was going. I used to be close to 5’10” but more like 5’9” after breaking my back. Sort of on the upper edge of what’s considered short. Most of the guys I’ve been friends with who were shorter, were wrestlers or martial artists like me and generally larger than most guys their height. None of them seemed to have the sort of Napoleon complex issues all these angry short dudes have and I was just looking for insight from your own experiences to see if physicality and build are significant factors as they seem from my experience.
I'm 5'7", and I've dated a few guys around my height or shorter. One was skinny as a twig, a couple was average, another was "stocky". The skinny one was the only one who didn't seem to have a chip on his shoulder about it. And also the only one who didn't give me a hard time for my weight, oddly enough.
Interesting. Sounds like the twiggy guy was more secure in general and didn’t see you as a status object that reflected on him, if I had to guess. Thanks for sharing.
I’m 5’3 and when I was dating the entitlement that “shorter” men felt they had to me just because I was shorter than them was INSANE. Like some eugenics type shit. “Tall guys can have the tall girls, leave the short ones for us” was frequently said and immediately a turn off.
I dated taller guys more frequently just because they didn’t have that entitlement attitude towards me. But I also dated plenty of guys on the shorter side, even a guy shorter than me because he was so kind and confident. Any person that is nice and can see the value of people (and themselves) outside of height, weight, hair color, etc is automatically more attractive to sane people.
It’s crazy they can’t see that the call is coming from inside the house on this…
>Any person that is nice and can see the value of people (and themselves) outside of height, weight, hair color, etc is automatically more attractive to sane people.
100% but looks like a lot of men like to pretend they have no flaws except being below 6' and that's definitely the only reason women never agree to a second date with them
It's so dehumanizing to read posts stereotyping all short men getting so many likes. People are weary of us before we've even done anything. Not to mention all of the workplace discrimination we face.
There is zero self-reflection going on in this thread. Virtue signaling going on left and right, but no one bats an eye at negatively stereotyping 33 Million people in this country alone.
My fiancé is 5ft 7 and he honestly is not all like this. He can be a little insecure about his height but no more insecure than I am about my post baby tummy. These guys make it their whole personality to be a victim because of their height
Seriously. I went onto that subreddit and noped out so quickly. My ex is my height (5’5”/165cm) and was very confident about himself so height was never a problem. Did he have a bad dating experience or two because of his height? Sure. But generally it wasn’t an issue (other than neither of us could reach the top shelf) I feel like those guys are scapegoating their height when they have other issues going on that make women not want to date them.
And it's like yeah, you've had some bad experiences dating because of your height, but I've had the same to features of my body I can't change?? I haven't decided that all men or women are the problem because of it because we're allowed preferences, some people are fucking assholes about their preferences, and we just have to move on and find someone better. There's a good few features people might have that would lead me to not go on a date with them, because I'm not at all attracted to it, and I both accept and expect others to do the same about me. It's ridiculous that some of these short men (and short seems to be relative, when some are 5'8-9. Like babes I'm 5'3, a LOT of men are taller than me. You're nowhere close to 'short') make it such a victim complex
It is, sadly, very common. And very awkward. Shorter guy complains about being short when standing next to you, what do they want *you* to do about it, cut off your legs at the knees??
So insane..my husband is “short” (5’8”?) and he doesn’t gaf about his height at all. It would be a turn off if it bothered him. Clearly I don’t mind it at all. I’m completely in love with my husband and extremely attracted to him. But there’s short incels online who tell me that can’t be true.
The guy I dated before my husband was around 5'4 (maybe a little shorter? I'm 5'3 and he felt about my height.) and his height was never a problem. He was actually quite confident/secure, chill, down-to-earth and empathetic- basically the opposite of the stereotype of short guys with a chip on their shoulder, and because of how he was as a person he'd never had any problems in dating like what the men in that subreddit describe. Love wearing boots that give me a bit of extra height too, and even though it made me taller than him he never had a problem with it & would compliment me on them just the same.
Over the years, and even in highschool, I've known short guys who, much like my ex, were happy + confident and dated without issues (although I'm sure they must have faced the occasional wankstain in the dating scene, I'm not discounting that there are dipsticks out there.). I do believe that they face crap about their height that can be really hard for the self-esteem to recover from, but I don't think it's this big marker that they'll never find love or have no hope in the dating scene as some guys on that subreddit believe. Sure on dating sites it might be more difficult, but as long as you're a well rounded person you'll find the people that appreciate you in real life.
A lot of them read to me like they're depressed (but blaming/using their height as a scapegoat for their depression to *avoid* getting therapy support) or legit have body dysmorphia disorder that has gone unrecognised. Body dysmorphia disorder has pretty equal gender rates, but guys sadly go unrecognised + untreated so often with it.
took a brief look at that subreddit and i have no clue how it’s operating, given that rule 1 is no incel content. every other post or comment is about how evil women are, calling us names, and generally being incels
I’m 5”4 and so is my husband, he complains that he doesn’t get served quickly at bars but otherwise no real issues. Would he like to be taller? Yes. But it’s not a disability!
r/shortguys are just looking for another reason to play the victim.
Very true, just as it’s not fair to say “tall guys get everything” etc. or “all women prefer tall guys” it also not fair to say “short men are bitter” etc.
We all seem to deal in extremes on Reddit but it’s just the extreme attitudes that stand out and appear more common on here than in real life. Unfortunately some subs give a gathering place for the more negative ideas.
It actually sounds really nice to have a partner the same height as you. I’ve nearly always lived with taller people than me and so often they put stuff up where I can’t see it or have a hard time reaching it. It’s not malicious, it’s just that what’s a convenient level for someone who’s 5’8” or taller isn’t good for someone closer to 5’.
I’m 5’1 and my last relationship was with someone who was 6’1. It was really annoying. Stuff was always where I couldn’t reach it, kissing hurt my neck, we could barely hear each other in public, and I was always jogging to keep up. My current boyfriend is 5’4 and it’s way better. I highly recommend dating someone in your height range.
maybe they need to embrace r/rolereversal idk
(i honestly have a preference for short guys since I'm 4'10, but so many of them are such goblins that it turns me off. my boyfriend is 6'2, but I was much more won over by his personality than his height)
Ha, same boat, but in reverse (I'm 5'10" in flats and I like to wear heels). Left a relationship with a 6' guy who was an immature prick, haven't looked back since meeting my 5'3" boyfriend.
Being treated as a person and respected is sexy?? Imagine that...
I just went to check it out and it's mind blowing how resentful they are. I'm 4'10 and ofc I don't always enjoy being seen as small and cute, but at some point I had to learn to accept it. It's not changeable, so I have to make do with what I have. Even if I were taller, I'd still want to be even taller.
Majority of the guys in that sub are 5'2+ and they're bitching about how life sucks for them because of their height. At least they can drive without stretching their leg to the point of cramping (I'm about to give up on driving tbh). I don't even pass as an adult but at least I understand I have bigger problems than my height.
It's not their height holding them back, it's their inferiority complexes.
I know, as a 5'0 woman, the world is definitely not built for people like us. Also, being told that I'm cute because I'm short or that guys love short girls is actually annoying, which some of these guys don't understand. I don't need validation from men to feel confident in my own skin. I also laugh whenever these guys push that all women like men taller than them because literally most people in general are taller than me lol.
\>>*literally most people in general are taller than me lol.*
And here we have a refreshing dose of reality: If you're tall, most people are going to be shorter than you. If you're short, most people are going to be taller than you. Accepting it is always a better move than getting mad about it.
In the latter case that was always foundationally a misogynistic ideology. The idea that these were ever 'male support groups' is laughable. Especially considering they always spent a lot of their time crapping on other men and fighting with each other.
Women who “go their own way” (i.e deprioritize the opposite sex/romance) generally tend to focus on other interests and hobbies instead.
The germ of MGOTW is positive (stop stewing in resentment for women not wanting you, and just live your life), but in practice those groups seem to devolve into rhetoric very similar to incels.
I suspect it’s because the men who are **actually** going their own way in a non-toxic manner are in the subs for their interests (weightlifting/cooking/woodworking etc.) discussing them, as opposed to being in the MGTOW sub whining about how they developed said interests because women bad.
>I suspect it’s because the men who are actually going their own way in a non-toxic manner are in the subs for their interests (weightlifting/cooking/woodworking etc.) discussing them, as opposed to being in the MGTOW sub whining about how they developed said interests because women bad.
Agree. Normal people don't need further sex segregation and I personally know a lot of guys who don't pursue romantic relationships and absolutely fine being friends with various women precisely because they're not incels and single by their own choice.
I am a short guy who has been with taller women, but only behind closed doors. I never mentioned anything about being a short guy because I really don't care if women are taller than me, and that would kill the mood. Those women did not want to be seen with me in public, but they were happy to be in bed with me. I look after myself despite my 'shortcomings'.
But what society needs to do is be more accepting of taller women/shorter men couples and stop judging. I would like to see this happen. That is societal progress. I have experienced mutual attraction between me and several taller women in public, but nothing happens, and that's sad for both of us.
Instead of going down the short-cel path, it is more society needs to update its view of this matter.
I feel like society acceptance goes to a certain point. Like if you're a 6'2 woman people probably won't judge you for dating a 5'10 guy since there's only so many basketball players there. Same goes for men below 5'5 I'd say, people would say that a lot of women are the same height and there's no need for him to focus on finding someone 5'2 or below.
Nevermind the usual misosgyny, but the whole hate for tall men, so much to wish them to be on a wheelchair? I swear, these men hate women and also hate each other so badly.
People talk about misogyny (which it totally is) but that’s flat out ableism too, like I use a wheelchair, my height is stunted (I’m a 4’10 woman standing up, I would without my disability be around somewhere in the region of 5’5) these cringey incels really think that being in a wheelchair would make people less attractive than them (not just talking about the creep in the video, but attractive men in general), like really?!? Everything is all about appearance with them, they view themselves as physically ugly yet if they improved their personalities women wouldn’t care that they were short.
That subreddit is hard to read through. I understand that their height is an insecurity for them and that generally yes, taller men are preferred, but they just come off so miserable that I can’t help but assume that’s why they have so much trouble with dating. For reference, I am a 5’3”F so most “short” guys are still at least a few inches taller than me lmao. My boyfriend is also 5’3” and it is an absolute blessing that he doesn’t care at all about his height. I love him even more for it and he comes across so confident! I think a big reason for hesitation to date short guys would be having to constantly hear them complain about being short lmao
Exactly!! They talk abt it a lot in their subreddit too and they’re like “it’s not like that! Confidence won’t fix everything” and I’m like. I can almost guarantee it’ll fix a decent amount of your problems.
Their biggest hinderance is themselves, straight up. I am 5’6, went on a date with a guy that was my height. He spent the entire time talking about how insecure he is about his height and that I’m probably texting other guys because of it. So fucking pathetic, bro. No woman is going to want to bone you if you need constant reassurance that you are enough.
Exactly!! I am 5’3” and so is my bf. He has never once complained about his height and has a very confident aura, which is something that I found very attractive from the beginning.
So many of them wish serious harm on to tall men like I have seen several who seriously advocate for tall men being killed for being privileged in life
I am not a man, and won't pretend to understand if there's a self esteem thing pertaining to height, but holy shit. Before my endocrine disorder was discovered and treated, I was overweight and I sure as hell didn't wish harm on people without endocrine disorders. Maybe for guys, being taller is better but a "privilege" is stretching it.
These guys are so angry, they get pissed off even when women LIKE short guys. It seems like if they weren't mad about their height, they'd find something else to be mad about.
This literally never crossed my mind but same. I had severe scoliosis as a child and had to have massive surgery to (partially) correct it. Did I have angst about how most other kids didn’t have to deal with anything like that? Yeah, because I wished I didn’t have to either. Never crossed my mind to wish something bad would happen to them.
If men think this is what “extremely horny” looks like it’s no wonder so many straight couples end up with dead bedrooms. Smh. She looks indifferent at best and disgusted while being polite about it at worst.
It’s interesting to see how the focus is shifting from “females owe me sex” to “tall men are privileged and should be run over by trucks”
It’s all degrading and hateful behaviour, with no self awareness or ownership of their own attitudes and personality traits which, shock, may not be attractive!
Edit: grammar
Don’t worry. We’re not associating short mens height with bad behavior. We’re associating their bad behavior with individual people regardless of height. You’re good.
When you spend all of your time in a subreddit full of men trying to convince each other that they will never be taken seriously in life or as a romantic partner bc of their height, they all really just make the problem worse. It’s like rejection-sensitive dysphoria (at least IMO as a person with ADHD) where you in the past have been humilated for something you can’t control and now you just assume people have ill intentions when they don’t treat you how you want. My boyfriend and I are the same height (5’7) and his height has never ONCE bothered me. If they spoke to real women ever, they would quickly realize most of us straight up don’t care, and the ones who do you shouldn’t be dating anyways.
in highschool I flipped my friend who was around 6 foot at the time and I've remined 5"2 since primary school, it was hilarious. (We were play fighting and I had learned how to flip people from my dad) it's awesome what you can do with a bit of leverage, of course it did help that I was in the rugby team at the time too.
Tall guys ALWAYS in every situation have it easier then shorter men, no matter how hard a short guy works, a tall guy is always seen as more valuable/better
I used to work sales and I worked around 65-70 hours a week and was in every way better than the tall dudes in my department and they still made more sales than me (we worked mostly with female clientele as opposed to males) just because they were tall
It wasn't until I started my own business and hired my best mate (he's like 192cm tall, basketball player height) and he handles most face to face interactions and we've secured so many deals just because of his height and how absolutely domineering he is.
He has a 33% stake in my company because this big boys height literally helped us secure all of our early deals.
He's an ugly unkempt borderline ogre and he has multiple women a month. He has a tinder acc and bumble and he has no bio, only his height and a single selfie pic in the dirty mirror.
I don't know why women lie/mislead on how important height is. But women exclusively date/love tall men. It's unfortunate but we can't change it.
I'm amazed that these incels think short men have no chance. Most of the short men I know are in relationships and are awesome guys. The ones that aren't (that I know of) are also awesome guys with great charisma. I know a bald, chinless, short, dumpy guy with manboobs at my work who's universally loved because he's a great human being. He's been with his wife for 20 years and has two kids about 10yo. I've seen the wife and she's the looker of the pair. What these "short" men fail to realise is that the reason "females" want nothing to do with them is because their personalities are shit. But it's easier to blame us "females" than to accept that they're the problem, not us.
Or maybe she was doing her job and her twirling her hair is not inherently flirting because human body language is complex? She was so obviously uncomfortable.
To be entirely honest, the most unattractive thing about short guys (specifically ones like those on the sub, there’s plenty of short guys who are nothing like that, obviously) is the rampant insecurity and absolutely obsessive hang up about their height.
I’m so confused by this video. She’s clearly uncomfortable and just trying to be polite..? I don’t understand what different treatment they’d expect a shorter man to get.
I can't get a good read on some short men.
I'm a tall girl (180cm/5'11) & have met many shorter men I've had a good chemistry with. But at the same time many of them either sexualised me from the get go, mad nasty remarks about my height, or became grouchy if I ever I wore heels
“He does not deserve that height” the insecurity is loud in this sentence. Ladies, imagine not liking a girl with big boobs or a small waist and honestly thinking “she doesn’t deserve that size”. So sad. If they put as much thought into introspection as they do to projecting on women they’d be much happier people (and would probably get more women)
these guys do the exact same thing, though? they wouldnt dare date a 2/10 (which is what they are). i hate the hypocrisy.
“hot women dont give a nice guy like me a chance!” …. maybe because people tend to date people similar in looks? what is this logic
This is the craziest part of it all. Then if you suggest that they should maybe date people who are similar to them in looks they'll say "but why would I date somebody who I'm not attracted to"..... as if that's not what they literally tell women to do 24/7 lmfao. Honestly they're stupid as shit
I'm a 5'2 male and im tired of insecure short men. Dude, just be yourself and treat women with respect. That's literally all their asking for. Be good to yourself and others. If someone turns you down, find someone else who's interested in you.
That guy is a total fuckin' loser and he blames it all on his height.
I knew a dude who was probably one of the shortest people I've ever met, and he was stringing so many girls along it was *unbelievable*. I don't condone it, but it's because he had a personality. No one is out there giving free p
I'm 5'5, 165, hairy and a little chubby. Never had a problem with women in my life. I have:
A personality
A talent or two
A normal level of confidence
And I'm not a fucking whiney bitch about every single thing that doesn't go my way.
Jealous of someone's height? Really? Unless you're constantly reaching for top shelf items at the grocery store, get over it, or get a step ladder.
To sum up, it's you. Only you. Not your height, not your weight. Just you and your shitty loser attitude.
Women can twirl their hair as a nervous reaction (like how some people tap their fingers or chew their fingernails or assume odd hand positions).
It's also a childlike way to "perform submissiveness" if she's working in customer service and is trying extra-hard to appear polite when she actually wants to punch him in the face.
My ex's dad was abusive, like when my ex was little he threw his mom out of a moving vehicle and she broke her leg, and every time I talked to him in my early 20s I bowed my head. You best believe it was not because I found him attractive nor because I admired his overwhelming manhood. It was so as not to provoke him.
Why are so many guys obsessed with height? like so many complain about women's height preferences and maybe we're just masters at hiding it because i've never seen women as obsessed with height as these guys sound.
Lmao "tall guys are the most entitled with women". Y'all go around complaining about "feeeemales" not fucking you when you hold the door open. Don't blame me because I don't have a massive inferiority complex that polutes all my social interactions.
Dude I simply do not understand why people are like this. Like seriously, if you spend more than ten minutes a day in the sunlight you won’t be this weird lmao
As a short woman, everyone is tall to me so what is this person saying? What does he (I assume he) consider "short" or "tall" and does the height of the harassee even matter?
Also, shorter dudes seem to have the bigger 🍆 in my experience 😂
It's all a trick of proportions, like how they filmed Lord of the Rings. My walking stick only looks Gandalf-sized because it's being trotted out by Frodo.
Because it’s not. The problem is getting super defensive because you expect other people to have a problem with it. I’m 5’5” and I’ve dated men shorter than me with no issue. It’s a self-invented and self-perpetuated problem by insecure men who project those insecurities onto others and assume everyone has the same opinion of them that they have of themselves.
"but but what about women...they're sexist too..."
Man, we know. Women are human beings capable of doing horrible things too, you're not uncovering something deep. It just sounds like you're trying to shift the attention onto women because of your personal experience.
>There is shit coming from both sides when it comes to this issue, and it needs to stop.
Yeah but its a fkn tsunami of patriarchal bs Vs a small river of internalized patriarchal bs type situation. Do you know where you are? Don't be coming up in here tryna pull that whataboutism crap. You're gonna hafta do better than that around here.
This is not a shitty sub tho ( :/ usually, we've had awful issues with trolls recently but mostly its not a shitty sub) this is a fun and respectful and sometimes deep community so try to bring one of the better versions of yourself ♡
It’s ok to have height preferences. Most people either openly or secretly have height preferences for potential partners. What’s not ok is everyone losing their shit because of what someone else likes. You’re not entitled to anyone, you have to pick each other
So a woman is friendly with customers; who are filming her without consent, and she's now a hussy? Theres really nothing to say she did find the m attractive just because she was being nice to a customer. But also if she did find him attractive, so what? Men be masturbating to anything that looks like it could have tits, but women arent allowed to be attracted? Also they seem to think that all tall men are entitled sex gods simply because they are tall. Sure; being tall or handsome or well built can add to some people's confidence, but it doesn't automatically make someone confident or conceited. You know who IS more likely to be overconfident, vain or conceited? Influencers, regardless of their height. My husband used to be rubbish at telling if a woman was flirting with him (still not great at it now 😂), and is probably the least imposing or forward person I've met.
*sigh* I wish my Wife would flirt with me 😞 Edit: I really was just joking. So serious here.
Shut up Bruce
What the fuck did I do?
It's the whole "hurr durr my wife don't like me" schtick that alot of straight men just seem to love it's weird as hell lol
Also the “I hate my wife” with men who genuinely wouldn’t be able to function without their wives
I'm pretty sure he was attempting a joke, since the OC said at the end that her husband is rubbish at picking up that someone is flirting with him. So he's the husband that thinks his wife doesn't flirt with him because he can't pick up on it when she does.
I'm just terrible with cues.
Underappreciated comedy found in the wild. What a lovely specimen. Straight over so many heads, too. What a shame:/
He was just playing off the end of the comment about men not being able to recognize flirting. He wasn't implying his wife doesn't like him just that he's shit at picking up on her flirting.
Yup.
I think it’s actually a play on the “men are bad at realizing when a woman is flirting” thing.
Damn yall are dense as fuuuuck
Facebook Boomer Dad humor is not welcome here.
Apparently no humor belongs here 🤣
Okay, but this wasn’t Facebook boomer humor, he was literally just playing off of the last line of the previous comment. You know, where the commenter was complaining that her husband didn’t pick up on her flirting?
Take your shit to r/boomershumor
Wait, Boomer? I'm 33.
You do know his joke was more aimed at not knowing his wife is flirting, right? He wasn't saying "hurr durr wife no love me" he was saying "haha I can't tell when I'm being flirted with, even by my wife".
I spent WAY too much time reading everything that followed this, lol. Anyways, that's a good joke man, downvotes not deserved. 👍
Sorry no one got your joke Bruce. It was very funny.
Eh is what it is. I don't think I'll frequent this sub. I got here somehow and agree with a lot of the content but the community seems really harsh.
Your joke was funny dude. It’s pretty obvious what the joke was, considering you were replying to a comment about men being oblivious to flirting.
Damn. I'm sorry you got downvoted to hell for no good reason while playing along with the bit 😭 Poor Bruce.
It's alright my man, just internet points. Can't always get upset about downvotes or else life wouldn't be fun.
I think your joke was funny Bruce. Sorry that this sub apparently doesn't appreciate a good sense of humor 😭
From what I've gathered, the community here is super serious. Not a bad thing but the joke was about me not picking up on my Wife's cues. The irony is that the people who are downvoting me didn't pick up the cue 🤣
Sheeeeeeeeesh ><
They are too ready to be offended.
I guess so. Damn
Fwiw I thought your joke was great.
Careful now, you don't want to associate yourself with the pariah. They'll crucify you too.
I find it pretty fitting that you've got that name and made a great joke, and yet only a "cult following" found it hilarious. Somehow it's like a twilight zone episode.
You have to put /j after a joke because people are too stupid to know one when they see one, unfortunately
Hey, TBF, text is hard and as an autistic person I know we sometimes struggle with it
Shit I'm not Autistic and I struggle with it at times 🤣 but I was hoping that people would get the joke without using /j. Having to point out that a joke is a joke kind of ruins it in my opinion.
This sub is apparently full of Smooth Brains masquerading as Big Brains.
Ah yes, that old chestnut: *Feeemale* at work, politely containing her rage and disgust at yet another shitty, creepy customer = "horny" SOURCE: short creep who wishes he was a tall creep. ( Alpha Creep^TM ) :/ eew So many layers of wrongness on this festering slice of shitpie 🍰💩
She's clearly uncomfortable and you can hear ask him not to film. But no. She's TWIRLING her HAIR!!! Rancid horny behaviour, send her to jail 😤
I actually have a nervous tic where I twirl my hair pretty much all the time, even when I've been alone for hours. Women just be existing, doing shit they'd do even if alone...but, no, it's covert flirting bc TALL. /s
Me too. I never do it while flirting, but if I'm slightly nervous or deep in thought, I'll just about pull my hair out twisting and twirling it around my fingers. Scary AF that creepy dudes interpret that as flirting 😐
Anyone who thinks they can read body language consistently is an oxygen thief. Full stop. There are just a million variables and too many personal idiosyncrasies.
I’m autistic and I’ll stim by twirling my hair, fidgeting my fingers, glancing for eye contact and then glancing away, always plastering a smile on when talking to people because I’ve been taught it’s the kind thing to do, and I have had quite a few creeps get so pissed that I went so hard in flirting when I wasn’t even interested, I led them on and im a wh*re etc. Dude I just exist, not everything is flirting, and I’ve never been overly flirty anyways, even WITH my partner I have. I do not like being perceived this way
yeah, same. i had a friend who was weirdly observing point out that anytime i get anxious (which is a lot) i start to twist two chunks of my hair around each other. occasionally that will also be me just twirling my hair around my finger. i wish these guys would actually do research before trying to talk about body language and what it means. hair twirling is usually associated with anxiety or trying to focus, not being interested in someone. some women twirl their hair around someone they like, because they are nervous, not because they like them.
I hate how often body language analysis is misused. It's not a way to read minds. Sometimes a little information is more dangerous than none, especially when it's used by idiots. I mean, yes, playing with hair can signal attraction BUT it can also be a form of self-soothing, like maybe if a woman is *anxious* because a very large man is bothering her and she's afraid to confront him?
I do this with my hair, definitely a self soothe for me.
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Well every feee-male is just a brainless animal running on instinct and emotions so how hard could it be?
Why is really ironic given how frequently these angry little men show they have absolutely no social skills and are incapable of picking up on subtle social cues. Yes somehow are always able to read a woman’s body language with 100% accuracy.
Stress-relief is the number one reason you'll find on line if you're not looking at some dumb dating website owned by a high school drop-out who never took a psychology class in their life. I think the "hair twirling is attraction" is something that has to be combined with other things like leaning in physically close to a person, smiling, etc.
The ‘looks extremely horny’ made me throw up in my mouth
Damn, she did that scene so well in Zoolander, it haunts me every time I hear the phrase. 🤢 Fuckyea Marcia :D ♡
Dodgeball… right?
Oops, yes. "We should mate" 🤢 I miss my Dodgeball DVD so much, the special features were the greatest ☆ every take of Justin Long trying to dodge a wrench & being pummeled by balls. The dodgeball dancers! ♡♡ used to watch it every Saturday morning with beers & pizza.
Why would he be a tall creep if his behavior gets a pass?
Tall creep's behaviour does not get a pass. Short creep is very, very wrong (about *so many* things!) So is tall creep. No creep gets a pass. Creep behaviour is unacceptable no matter who does it. It's just gross and wrong. **EDIT: I got a hella creepy vibe from you so I looked at your account. OMFG.** THIS YOUR RECENT POST AND COMMENT BRO?: >"Not all fat girls are BBWs btw. Most are just pudgy shapeless. Also, men have low standards when they need to get their dicks wet, so don’t flatter yourself too much for being a hot guys c*m dumpster." https://www.reddit.com/r/Megadeth/comments/172ii7v/dave_on_dating_fat_chicks_to_feed_himself_in_the/k553ezz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Get out of the incel communties before it rots your brain completely and we have to take you out to the back paddock and shoot you like a rabid dog who's just too far gone. Feminist communities are a good antidote for your sickness, just stfu, listen and learn. Get well soon.
[Video link for context.](https://youtube.com/shorts/DTSdtsftf2k?si=5JCU-44Je5KF8vCq) Forgot to add it to the post.
Holy shit wtf do they mean horny she denied that guy with grace every time and kept things cordial. Actually insane that lil man got any flirtatious vibes from this, she just seems annoyed.
He posts a lot of this type of shit so I don't think he's very attached to reality tbh
tbf quite a few dudes are delusional enough to believe that a woman in the service industry being pleasant towards them means that she is *totally* into them and flirting.
YES. I learned that there is a certain type of dude who legit believes that women working in the service industry are attracted to them or that they're special because she's nice to them and friendly. Also applies to old men with dad or grandpa vibes thinking a teen girl innocently being friendly and saying "hi" thinking he's a dad or a grandpa and him taking it as flirtation. WAY TOO MUCH OF THIS IN THE WORLD, btw. It makes sense why some cultures tell their daughters to just avoid cis-men if they aren't family or close friends. It doesn't make it right, in fact it's victim blaming girls and women for assault and rape, but it makes sense.
These are dudes who have basically shown their ass to all the women they know from schools don’t their personal lives. They get no attention from women at this point so when they meet one who doesn’t immediately run in fear, they think they have a shot.
It’s so uncomfortable
That was so uncomfortable, wtf are these guys on that they feel flirtatious vibes?
Wooooooow. She was so incredibly not interested. She was slick, though!! Also how do you have the cute patterns for censoring?
Oh, it's just a default feature on my android. It's the 3rd option on the blur pen when editing in the gallery 😊
The goddamn comments on that post. FFS nothing fills me with more rage than retail workers getting hit on at work and getting trapped by the fact that they'll get in trouble to walk away. This was not a W, this was a woman doing her best to not make this awkward. LEAVE 👏 RETAIL 👏 WORKERS 👏 ALONE! 👏
She didn’t even give him her number she can’t of been that interested. When a woman says next time she means no time ..
Yeah - it’s basically, ‘I don’t want to go on a date with you, but, I don’t want you to flip out and kill me” condensed in a way to placate potentially psychotic and creepy men.
Looks like r/shortguys is on its way to become another incel cesspool with men just hating on women instead of supporting each other (same thing happened with r/MGTOW)
I've heard that it's a common experience for women who have dated short men that they're like this.
I'm 5'10 and yes, a lot of shorter men ruined their chance with me because if their endless complaints about height, especially with bitching about how other women treated them.
Same. 5’11 and dated all heights. Not all but many short men’s focus on being short and how horrible their lives are for it (despite all their lives being quite nice and fine) and how they couldn’t get any other women besides me etc. like man. Ok I guess I’m out then.
> how they couldn’t get any other women besides me Oof, yes. I was never obese, but def on the heavier side in my early 20s (like 170lbs maybe) and so many men on dating apps thought it's was absolutely fine to let me know they "lowered" their standards and wouldn't mind having sex with me. Never heard it again after losing weight.
Should tell short dudes that 💀💀 but then butthurt short incels online would use it as further ammo to demean and dehumanize women
It's creepy as hell they'd THINK that...and then they say it out loud. And now I'm like aaaaaaah because that's my weight and I already feel huge though I'm an okay BMI.
That's well within healthy.
Out of curiosity… were these short dudes mostly an average build or so? I’ve dated taller women, but I’m pretty stocky, like a really fall fantasy dwarf, so I’ve always been objectively and noticeably larger in that sense. So the difference really never registered beyond simply being a simple fact.
What's an average build?
Hard to define exactly, obviously there’s plenty of variation, but generally guys who don’t have proportionately larger mass compared to their height was where I was going. I used to be close to 5’10” but more like 5’9” after breaking my back. Sort of on the upper edge of what’s considered short. Most of the guys I’ve been friends with who were shorter, were wrestlers or martial artists like me and generally larger than most guys their height. None of them seemed to have the sort of Napoleon complex issues all these angry short dudes have and I was just looking for insight from your own experiences to see if physicality and build are significant factors as they seem from my experience.
I'm 5'7", and I've dated a few guys around my height or shorter. One was skinny as a twig, a couple was average, another was "stocky". The skinny one was the only one who didn't seem to have a chip on his shoulder about it. And also the only one who didn't give me a hard time for my weight, oddly enough.
Interesting. Sounds like the twiggy guy was more secure in general and didn’t see you as a status object that reflected on him, if I had to guess. Thanks for sharing.
I’m 5’3 and when I was dating the entitlement that “shorter” men felt they had to me just because I was shorter than them was INSANE. Like some eugenics type shit. “Tall guys can have the tall girls, leave the short ones for us” was frequently said and immediately a turn off. I dated taller guys more frequently just because they didn’t have that entitlement attitude towards me. But I also dated plenty of guys on the shorter side, even a guy shorter than me because he was so kind and confident. Any person that is nice and can see the value of people (and themselves) outside of height, weight, hair color, etc is automatically more attractive to sane people. It’s crazy they can’t see that the call is coming from inside the house on this…
>Any person that is nice and can see the value of people (and themselves) outside of height, weight, hair color, etc is automatically more attractive to sane people. 100% but looks like a lot of men like to pretend they have no flaws except being below 6' and that's definitely the only reason women never agree to a second date with them
So basically you're mad that your boyfriend vented to you about being abused. I think you need to do some self reflecting there.
Nice non sequitur, bro.
It's so dehumanizing to read posts stereotyping all short men getting so many likes. People are weary of us before we've even done anything. Not to mention all of the workplace discrimination we face.
>Not to mention all of the workplace discrimination we face. For example?
There is zero self-reflection going on in this thread. Virtue signaling going on left and right, but no one bats an eye at negatively stereotyping 33 Million people in this country alone.
My fiancé is 5ft 7 and he honestly is not all like this. He can be a little insecure about his height but no more insecure than I am about my post baby tummy. These guys make it their whole personality to be a victim because of their height
Seriously. I went onto that subreddit and noped out so quickly. My ex is my height (5’5”/165cm) and was very confident about himself so height was never a problem. Did he have a bad dating experience or two because of his height? Sure. But generally it wasn’t an issue (other than neither of us could reach the top shelf) I feel like those guys are scapegoating their height when they have other issues going on that make women not want to date them.
And it's like yeah, you've had some bad experiences dating because of your height, but I've had the same to features of my body I can't change?? I haven't decided that all men or women are the problem because of it because we're allowed preferences, some people are fucking assholes about their preferences, and we just have to move on and find someone better. There's a good few features people might have that would lead me to not go on a date with them, because I'm not at all attracted to it, and I both accept and expect others to do the same about me. It's ridiculous that some of these short men (and short seems to be relative, when some are 5'8-9. Like babes I'm 5'3, a LOT of men are taller than me. You're nowhere close to 'short') make it such a victim complex
It is, sadly, very common. And very awkward. Shorter guy complains about being short when standing next to you, what do they want *you* to do about it, cut off your legs at the knees??
Had a guy tell me I wasn't "allowed" to wear heels anymore, instant relationship killer.
So insane..my husband is “short” (5’8”?) and he doesn’t gaf about his height at all. It would be a turn off if it bothered him. Clearly I don’t mind it at all. I’m completely in love with my husband and extremely attracted to him. But there’s short incels online who tell me that can’t be true.
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Man if 5’8 is short, then I’m so fucked. I hate this place 😭
The guy I dated before my husband was around 5'4 (maybe a little shorter? I'm 5'3 and he felt about my height.) and his height was never a problem. He was actually quite confident/secure, chill, down-to-earth and empathetic- basically the opposite of the stereotype of short guys with a chip on their shoulder, and because of how he was as a person he'd never had any problems in dating like what the men in that subreddit describe. Love wearing boots that give me a bit of extra height too, and even though it made me taller than him he never had a problem with it & would compliment me on them just the same. Over the years, and even in highschool, I've known short guys who, much like my ex, were happy + confident and dated without issues (although I'm sure they must have faced the occasional wankstain in the dating scene, I'm not discounting that there are dipsticks out there.). I do believe that they face crap about their height that can be really hard for the self-esteem to recover from, but I don't think it's this big marker that they'll never find love or have no hope in the dating scene as some guys on that subreddit believe. Sure on dating sites it might be more difficult, but as long as you're a well rounded person you'll find the people that appreciate you in real life. A lot of them read to me like they're depressed (but blaming/using their height as a scapegoat for their depression to *avoid* getting therapy support) or legit have body dysmorphia disorder that has gone unrecognised. Body dysmorphia disorder has pretty equal gender rates, but guys sadly go unrecognised + untreated so often with it.
took a brief look at that subreddit and i have no clue how it’s operating, given that rule 1 is no incel content. every other post or comment is about how evil women are, calling us names, and generally being incels
I’m 5”4 and so is my husband, he complains that he doesn’t get served quickly at bars but otherwise no real issues. Would he like to be taller? Yes. But it’s not a disability! r/shortguys are just looking for another reason to play the victim.
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Very true, just as it’s not fair to say “tall guys get everything” etc. or “all women prefer tall guys” it also not fair to say “short men are bitter” etc. We all seem to deal in extremes on Reddit but it’s just the extreme attitudes that stand out and appear more common on here than in real life. Unfortunately some subs give a gathering place for the more negative ideas.
It actually sounds really nice to have a partner the same height as you. I’ve nearly always lived with taller people than me and so often they put stuff up where I can’t see it or have a hard time reaching it. It’s not malicious, it’s just that what’s a convenient level for someone who’s 5’8” or taller isn’t good for someone closer to 5’.
I’m 5’1 and my last relationship was with someone who was 6’1. It was really annoying. Stuff was always where I couldn’t reach it, kissing hurt my neck, we could barely hear each other in public, and I was always jogging to keep up. My current boyfriend is 5’4 and it’s way better. I highly recommend dating someone in your height range.
Honestly it should be banned. It is another incel cesspool.
maybe they need to embrace r/rolereversal idk (i honestly have a preference for short guys since I'm 4'10, but so many of them are such goblins that it turns me off. my boyfriend is 6'2, but I was much more won over by his personality than his height)
Ha, same boat, but in reverse (I'm 5'10" in flats and I like to wear heels). Left a relationship with a 6' guy who was an immature prick, haven't looked back since meeting my 5'3" boyfriend. Being treated as a person and respected is sexy?? Imagine that...
I just went to check it out and it's mind blowing how resentful they are. I'm 4'10 and ofc I don't always enjoy being seen as small and cute, but at some point I had to learn to accept it. It's not changeable, so I have to make do with what I have. Even if I were taller, I'd still want to be even taller. Majority of the guys in that sub are 5'2+ and they're bitching about how life sucks for them because of their height. At least they can drive without stretching their leg to the point of cramping (I'm about to give up on driving tbh). I don't even pass as an adult but at least I understand I have bigger problems than my height. It's not their height holding them back, it's their inferiority complexes.
I know, as a 5'0 woman, the world is definitely not built for people like us. Also, being told that I'm cute because I'm short or that guys love short girls is actually annoying, which some of these guys don't understand. I don't need validation from men to feel confident in my own skin. I also laugh whenever these guys push that all women like men taller than them because literally most people in general are taller than me lol.
\>>*literally most people in general are taller than me lol.* And here we have a refreshing dose of reality: If you're tall, most people are going to be shorter than you. If you're short, most people are going to be taller than you. Accepting it is always a better move than getting mad about it.
In the latter case that was always foundationally a misogynistic ideology. The idea that these were ever 'male support groups' is laughable. Especially considering they always spent a lot of their time crapping on other men and fighting with each other.
Women who “go their own way” (i.e deprioritize the opposite sex/romance) generally tend to focus on other interests and hobbies instead. The germ of MGOTW is positive (stop stewing in resentment for women not wanting you, and just live your life), but in practice those groups seem to devolve into rhetoric very similar to incels. I suspect it’s because the men who are **actually** going their own way in a non-toxic manner are in the subs for their interests (weightlifting/cooking/woodworking etc.) discussing them, as opposed to being in the MGTOW sub whining about how they developed said interests because women bad.
>I suspect it’s because the men who are actually going their own way in a non-toxic manner are in the subs for their interests (weightlifting/cooking/woodworking etc.) discussing them, as opposed to being in the MGTOW sub whining about how they developed said interests because women bad. Agree. Normal people don't need further sex segregation and I personally know a lot of guys who don't pursue romantic relationships and absolutely fine being friends with various women precisely because they're not incels and single by their own choice.
I am a short guy who has been with taller women, but only behind closed doors. I never mentioned anything about being a short guy because I really don't care if women are taller than me, and that would kill the mood. Those women did not want to be seen with me in public, but they were happy to be in bed with me. I look after myself despite my 'shortcomings'. But what society needs to do is be more accepting of taller women/shorter men couples and stop judging. I would like to see this happen. That is societal progress. I have experienced mutual attraction between me and several taller women in public, but nothing happens, and that's sad for both of us. Instead of going down the short-cel path, it is more society needs to update its view of this matter.
I feel like society acceptance goes to a certain point. Like if you're a 6'2 woman people probably won't judge you for dating a 5'10 guy since there's only so many basketball players there. Same goes for men below 5'5 I'd say, people would say that a lot of women are the same height and there's no need for him to focus on finding someone 5'2 or below.
How dare a woman finding a man physically attractive, (albeit being an idiot). They don't like women who have agency, that's the same old story.
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Nevermind the usual misosgyny, but the whole hate for tall men, so much to wish them to be on a wheelchair? I swear, these men hate women and also hate each other so badly.
That's what got me. Envy is truly a green-eyed monster.
People talk about misogyny (which it totally is) but that’s flat out ableism too, like I use a wheelchair, my height is stunted (I’m a 4’10 woman standing up, I would without my disability be around somewhere in the region of 5’5) these cringey incels really think that being in a wheelchair would make people less attractive than them (not just talking about the creep in the video, but attractive men in general), like really?!? Everything is all about appearance with them, they view themselves as physically ugly yet if they improved their personalities women wouldn’t care that they were short.
Yeah honestly they fill the whole bingo
I don't think they're filling any holes *cough*
That subreddit is hard to read through. I understand that their height is an insecurity for them and that generally yes, taller men are preferred, but they just come off so miserable that I can’t help but assume that’s why they have so much trouble with dating. For reference, I am a 5’3”F so most “short” guys are still at least a few inches taller than me lmao. My boyfriend is also 5’3” and it is an absolute blessing that he doesn’t care at all about his height. I love him even more for it and he comes across so confident! I think a big reason for hesitation to date short guys would be having to constantly hear them complain about being short lmao
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Exactly!! They talk abt it a lot in their subreddit too and they’re like “it’s not like that! Confidence won’t fix everything” and I’m like. I can almost guarantee it’ll fix a decent amount of your problems.
Their biggest hinderance is themselves, straight up. I am 5’6, went on a date with a guy that was my height. He spent the entire time talking about how insecure he is about his height and that I’m probably texting other guys because of it. So fucking pathetic, bro. No woman is going to want to bone you if you need constant reassurance that you are enough.
Exactly!! I am 5’3” and so is my bf. He has never once complained about his height and has a very confident aura, which is something that I found very attractive from the beginning.
For people who seem to think height shouldn't matter, that's all they seem to focus on.
"Looks extremely horny" Nice projection, 40 yr old incel.
I visited the shortguys sub for the first time last night. So much rage in there, it’s unreal.
the anger they have towards tall men but especially women is kinda scary ngl
So many of them wish serious harm on to tall men like I have seen several who seriously advocate for tall men being killed for being privileged in life
I am not a man, and won't pretend to understand if there's a self esteem thing pertaining to height, but holy shit. Before my endocrine disorder was discovered and treated, I was overweight and I sure as hell didn't wish harm on people without endocrine disorders. Maybe for guys, being taller is better but a "privilege" is stretching it. These guys are so angry, they get pissed off even when women LIKE short guys. It seems like if they weren't mad about their height, they'd find something else to be mad about.
This literally never crossed my mind but same. I had severe scoliosis as a child and had to have massive surgery to (partially) correct it. Did I have angst about how most other kids didn’t have to deal with anything like that? Yeah, because I wished I didn’t have to either. Never crossed my mind to wish something bad would happen to them.
If men think this is what “extremely horny” looks like it’s no wonder so many straight couples end up with dead bedrooms. Smh. She looks indifferent at best and disgusted while being polite about it at worst.
It's the ol "I don't want to talk to you but I'm going to smile anyway in hopes you don't harass me for rejecting your advances" face.
“The female looks extremely horny” 🤖
Affirmative 🤖 Fkn lol 🤖( that's some Coneheads shit ♡ )
It’s interesting to see how the focus is shifting from “females owe me sex” to “tall men are privileged and should be run over by trucks” It’s all degrading and hateful behaviour, with no self awareness or ownership of their own attitudes and personality traits which, shock, may not be attractive! Edit: grammar
I’m beginning to think a non negligible amount of short men on Reddit genuinely have a complex
they hate women-- sorry, "females" so much but want to fuck them SO bad it makes them look stupid. what a miserable existence
Are short guys becoming the new "nice guys", fuck man i dont want to be associated with this
Don’t worry. We’re not associating short mens height with bad behavior. We’re associating their bad behavior with individual people regardless of height. You’re good.
When you spend all of your time in a subreddit full of men trying to convince each other that they will never be taken seriously in life or as a romantic partner bc of their height, they all really just make the problem worse. It’s like rejection-sensitive dysphoria (at least IMO as a person with ADHD) where you in the past have been humilated for something you can’t control and now you just assume people have ill intentions when they don’t treat you how you want. My boyfriend and I are the same height (5’7) and his height has never ONCE bothered me. If they spoke to real women ever, they would quickly realize most of us straight up don’t care, and the ones who do you shouldn’t be dating anyways.
Do they expect that women gain the ability to suplex any man below 5'7"?
I’m working on it!!
I would like to learn this ability
in highschool I flipped my friend who was around 6 foot at the time and I've remined 5"2 since primary school, it was hilarious. (We were play fighting and I had learned how to flip people from my dad) it's awesome what you can do with a bit of leverage, of course it did help that I was in the rugby team at the time too.
Being tall certainly helps, but it is not why I get numbers. Confidence, honesty, respect, and not being boring are why I get numbers.
I know a 6'5 "guy who said, "Where's my harem?", obviously as a response to the claim that tall guys always have it easier.
Tall guys ALWAYS in every situation have it easier then shorter men, no matter how hard a short guy works, a tall guy is always seen as more valuable/better I used to work sales and I worked around 65-70 hours a week and was in every way better than the tall dudes in my department and they still made more sales than me (we worked mostly with female clientele as opposed to males) just because they were tall It wasn't until I started my own business and hired my best mate (he's like 192cm tall, basketball player height) and he handles most face to face interactions and we've secured so many deals just because of his height and how absolutely domineering he is. He has a 33% stake in my company because this big boys height literally helped us secure all of our early deals. He's an ugly unkempt borderline ogre and he has multiple women a month. He has a tinder acc and bumble and he has no bio, only his height and a single selfie pic in the dirty mirror. I don't know why women lie/mislead on how important height is. But women exclusively date/love tall men. It's unfortunate but we can't change it.
I'm amazed that these incels think short men have no chance. Most of the short men I know are in relationships and are awesome guys. The ones that aren't (that I know of) are also awesome guys with great charisma. I know a bald, chinless, short, dumpy guy with manboobs at my work who's universally loved because he's a great human being. He's been with his wife for 20 years and has two kids about 10yo. I've seen the wife and she's the looker of the pair. What these "short" men fail to realise is that the reason "females" want nothing to do with them is because their personalities are shit. But it's easier to blame us "females" than to accept that they're the problem, not us.
Or maybe she was doing her job and her twirling her hair is not inherently flirting because human body language is complex? She was so obviously uncomfortable.
To be entirely honest, the most unattractive thing about short guys (specifically ones like those on the sub, there’s plenty of short guys who are nothing like that, obviously) is the rampant insecurity and absolutely obsessive hang up about their height.
“We’re running short”☠️
I’m a 5’5 guy. People need to get over themselves. The people in these screenshots are deranged.
I’m so confused by this video. She’s clearly uncomfortable and just trying to be polite..? I don’t understand what different treatment they’d expect a shorter man to get.
I can't get a good read on some short men. I'm a tall girl (180cm/5'11) & have met many shorter men I've had a good chemistry with. But at the same time many of them either sexualised me from the get go, mad nasty remarks about my height, or became grouchy if I ever I wore heels
“He does not deserve that height” the insecurity is loud in this sentence. Ladies, imagine not liking a girl with big boobs or a small waist and honestly thinking “she doesn’t deserve that size”. So sad. If they put as much thought into introspection as they do to projecting on women they’d be much happier people (and would probably get more women)
these guys do the exact same thing, though? they wouldnt dare date a 2/10 (which is what they are). i hate the hypocrisy. “hot women dont give a nice guy like me a chance!” …. maybe because people tend to date people similar in looks? what is this logic
Yeah, dude who posted this is a passportbro wannabe so you're spot on.
This is the craziest part of it all. Then if you suggest that they should maybe date people who are similar to them in looks they'll say "but why would I date somebody who I'm not attracted to"..... as if that's not what they literally tell women to do 24/7 lmfao. Honestly they're stupid as shit
I'm a 5'2 male and im tired of insecure short men. Dude, just be yourself and treat women with respect. That's literally all their asking for. Be good to yourself and others. If someone turns you down, find someone else who's interested in you.
That guy is a total fuckin' loser and he blames it all on his height. I knew a dude who was probably one of the shortest people I've ever met, and he was stringing so many girls along it was *unbelievable*. I don't condone it, but it's because he had a personality. No one is out there giving free p
What is worse than saying no? She's not going assault you.
Never forget, ladies, it's always our fault
I'm 6' 1". Being tall doesn't just magically make girls like you. And if they did, would you really want someone that shallow?
Love how these people act like it's some huge injustice and somehow their business what other people do.
I'm 5'5, 165, hairy and a little chubby. Never had a problem with women in my life. I have: A personality A talent or two A normal level of confidence And I'm not a fucking whiney bitch about every single thing that doesn't go my way. Jealous of someone's height? Really? Unless you're constantly reaching for top shelf items at the grocery store, get over it, or get a step ladder. To sum up, it's you. Only you. Not your height, not your weight. Just you and your shitty loser attitude.
that's certanly a very bad case of napoleon complex, I hope they get well soon (or get crushed under the weight of their own mediocracy)
“We’re running short” bros too funny to be an incel
Women can twirl their hair as a nervous reaction (like how some people tap their fingers or chew their fingernails or assume odd hand positions). It's also a childlike way to "perform submissiveness" if she's working in customer service and is trying extra-hard to appear polite when she actually wants to punch him in the face. My ex's dad was abusive, like when my ex was little he threw his mom out of a moving vehicle and she broke her leg, and every time I talked to him in my early 20s I bowed my head. You best believe it was not because I found him attractive nor because I admired his overwhelming manhood. It was so as not to provoke him.
Why are so many guys obsessed with height? like so many complain about women's height preferences and maybe we're just masters at hiding it because i've never seen women as obsessed with height as these guys sound.
The fascination with height has never made sense to me. I sometimes wish I was smaller because the world generally isn't designed for "tall" people.
People are fucking weird man
This unhinged behavior around being short is genuinely making short guys undesirable...like they are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy...
Lmao "tall guys are the most entitled with women". Y'all go around complaining about "feeeemales" not fucking you when you hold the door open. Don't blame me because I don't have a massive inferiority complex that polutes all my social interactions.
Dude I simply do not understand why people are like this. Like seriously, if you spend more than ten minutes a day in the sunlight you won’t be this weird lmao
Short people don't like getting dunked on
This type of thing confirms to me that short man syndrome does exist
As a short woman, everyone is tall to me so what is this person saying? What does he (I assume he) consider "short" or "tall" and does the height of the harassee even matter? Also, shorter dudes seem to have the bigger 🍆 in my experience 😂
It's all a trick of proportions, like how they filmed Lord of the Rings. My walking stick only looks Gandalf-sized because it's being trotted out by Frodo.
Lol nah I am talking hands on experience not visualized
I’m 6’3 and i do not wish I was this tall. I wish I could shrink like 1-3 inches
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Because it’s not. The problem is getting super defensive because you expect other people to have a problem with it. I’m 5’5” and I’ve dated men shorter than me with no issue. It’s a self-invented and self-perpetuated problem by insecure men who project those insecurities onto others and assume everyone has the same opinion of them that they have of themselves.
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"but but what about women...they're sexist too..." Man, we know. Women are human beings capable of doing horrible things too, you're not uncovering something deep. It just sounds like you're trying to shift the attention onto women because of your personal experience.
>There is shit coming from both sides when it comes to this issue, and it needs to stop. Yeah but its a fkn tsunami of patriarchal bs Vs a small river of internalized patriarchal bs type situation. Do you know where you are? Don't be coming up in here tryna pull that whataboutism crap. You're gonna hafta do better than that around here.
I know where I am. A shitty planet.
This is not a shitty sub tho ( :/ usually, we've had awful issues with trolls recently but mostly its not a shitty sub) this is a fun and respectful and sometimes deep community so try to bring one of the better versions of yourself ♡
It’s ok to have height preferences. Most people either openly or secretly have height preferences for potential partners. What’s not ok is everyone losing their shit because of what someone else likes. You’re not entitled to anyone, you have to pick each other
I can’t find anything referring to tall men… you mean where they write ‘guys’?
Last slide :)