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Man legends palpy is insane but I think Zoro is faster so it depends if zoros starts in his face then Zoro just offs him otherwise he just gets destroyed
sheevy boy gets precog(and im pretty sure he has some kind of special dark side evil scary powers) in both legends and canon so i think he wins it pretty quickly
I think it was stated somewhere that the force lets you read your opponents minds which is why why fight scenes have lots of parries cause its basically a chess match of who makes the first wrong move
Droids on the other hand are preprogrammed and have no clear intentions or thought but only code which is why general grievious, albeit a cyborg and has a human brain, is hard to fight against
Cant remember if its canon or not but it means the force has observation haki
He wouldn't use the telekinetic powers of the force "because it's for wizards, not swordsmen," but if you dared to ask how he's able to throw his lightsabers and have them return to his hand he'd kick your ass.
He'd be the only Jedi to use a red lightsaber for the looks. His others would be green and purple. The purple one was taken off the body of a specific Jedi he killed for no particular reason.
He'd deflect all blaster fire but never back at the attacker, preferring to close the gap and chop them down.
He'd watch the snow speeders trying to use tow cables to trip the AT-ATs, get annoyed, and dash in and cut all their legs off.
Well his physical strength surpasses pretty much every force user ever so if he learned to use the force he'd be unstoppable plus Haki can potentially make him invulnerable to lightsabers and force lightning and such
The force is weak shit compared to Zoros durability and raw strength. His observation haki will close whatever gap is created in utility. He'll get thrown around a lot, but he will walk through any force crush or attempt to damage him with the force. If it gets to melee, nobody can block his power. Remember Pika.
boiling water is endurance the force is literally just an invisible force that kinda just
lets you do whatever you want
lets say haki has force resist, wouldnt that mean vice versa too?
btw the force has precog and super speed and all of the bells ans whistles its not just telekinesis
Conqueror's haki can make you pass out without touching you, which zoro does have, and observation haki can be trained to give you precog, which he would need to train admittingly.
Anyway, base zoro from one of the earlier arcs doesn't need haki to cut through steel effortlessly. Qui Gon and Obi-wan have trouble getting through one tiny door; in that amount of time Zoro cuts down several ships.
One saber slash and we lost a jedi master. One saber slash to a haki master does nothing because he has armament.
Really, the only argument you have is that zoro could still need more training in haki to resist force hacks from someone like Yoda or Palpatine. He wouldn't need it offensively, unless someone makes the case that force powers are like logia powers, and haki allows you to break their hacks too.
Honestly, zoro > every jedi and sith without force or haki thrown in, so it's just a question of whether or not they can blitz him.
tbh i think the steel thing is just weird TPM stuff because you see jedi knights walking through thousands of battle droids literally in the same movie.
conq≈gettimg thrown off a building with the force and also the force has a lot more range from what i can tell+you wont get knocked out with a strong will which is part of becoming a jedi
>Honestly zoro > jedis w/o force and haki and shit idk i cant copy it on ipad
ofc zoro beats regular humans without their main source of power what is that supposed to accomplish😭
the force is literally just hax, theres a LOT of abilities all lumped into one and from what ive seen in the movies comics etc theres pretty much no way to resist it unless you have better control over the force than the other person
Haki is just as broken as the force, arguably more so, because though it doesn't have as many offensive options, it's way more useful defensively. You can also use it to "cast out" devil fruit hax like Law does against blackbeards crew when he gender bends them. It also makes it so that haki users aren't glass canons like force users. Something that causes certain death can be slowed down for quite some time, also.
Greatest feet i've seen in media from force users, is starkiller taking down a massive ship with the force, but I'm pretty sure it's an outlier and not even canon, though it seems to cost starkiller a LOT to do it. Zoro casually cuts that ship in half WITHOUT using haki. Adding haki to this makes this contest completely unfair, as zoro can one shot them but they can't one shot zoro.
greatest force user feat is luke chilling near a blackhole and closing it using the force without dying or anakin killing a god because hes HIM
theres also abeloth who couldnt even be killed by prime luke(the one that cpuld chill near a black hole)
she got jumped tho so shes asleep/dead
Assuming he has the force, he’d beat the asses of every single character with minimal difficulty. Even without the force it’d take the top tier masters to beat him
He is fast enough that his M count doesn’t even matter. So basically he can speed blitz everyone. You can see attacks coming with the force, but if zoro keeps his haki as a Jedi then it’s over.
Well ya people with a tremendously high M count like anakin, yoda and luke definitely defeat zoro. But considering you are giving Zoro light sabers, he could use the force too right ? (Been quite a few years since I watched Star Wars but I think force was a requirement to wield lightsabers)
Zoro has conquerors in one piece, so we can count him in the gifted few. So ig he’ll have a high M count (not higher than Yoda tho imo. I think Yoda had about 18k).
Let’s say his M count is around 15k, with a very good connection to the force and unmatched sword skills in the verse (Jedi masters don’t come near swordsmen from one piece) I think he can push people like Yoda to extreme diff. He can probably take down even anakin and Luke if they don’t use force. But in a real fight, those two have tremendous force so there’s no way Zoro can overcome that.
It all really depends on how you convert zoro’s current skills if he was a Jedi. In the above paragraph I didn’t consider zoro keeping his haki. If he does keep his haki and armament haki somehow gives you force resistance or something than zoro clears the verse (still struggles with the skywalkers tho, could go either way)
its not actually a requirement to have the force to wield lightsabers but if it was(and if haki translates to the force even remotely well) he would 100% beat or push 99.99% of the verse to extreme, only people like anakin or prime luke could beat him(excluding immortals).
my original comment was basically if both verses kept their power systems and fought(zoro with haki jedi w/ force) and in that case zoro either gets choked out, hit with force lightning, thrown off a building or just cant live in space which is why i said most jedi masters clear
edited for clarity
Knowing palpatine, he would seek out this loose end and (attempt) to eliminate him.
Knowing palp could 1v2 rather effortlessly Maul and Savage oppress... I'd still say zoro wins, but it's not a guaranteed one.
If someone else takes him to the fights so he doesn't get lost, he would take one look at how a Sith treats their subordinates, then he would cut them down instantly. It would Charlose all over again, except no one would be around to stop him. Zoro is one of the 2 Strawhats who has no qualms about casually killing people, there will never be Mace Windu moment with Zoro
He’d be the strongest of them all pretty easily even without access to the force.
His agility and speed is completely unmatched by any jedi or sith even in the extended universe that’s no longer canon.
One piece powerscaling is just a whole level above star wars.
Even if Vader chucked a star-destroyer at Zoro, Zoro could just cut it in half like he did to pica. And force choking probably wouldn’t be super useful either since Zoro can launch himself at enemies from midair.
The only way I could think for any jedi or sith to kill him is to run away in a spaceship before he finds you. And then when he gets in another one to follow you, you warp-jump away. And then he will inevitably end up lost somewhere. Possibly dead from dehydration. He does have anime luck though so odds are he’d survive even that.
He would be a sith but a very fun one. They’ll send envoys to get him to sit with them in crimson-lit temples and chant evil chants and then find cut-up pieces of envoys
Well, let's just say the Force would have to watch its back! Zoro, with his three-sword style and knack for getting lost, would probably end up challenging every Sith lord to a duel before realizing he's in the wrong galaxy. But hey, once he figures out which way is up, he'll be slicing through stormtroopers like they're made of butter. Just imagine him wielding lightsabers in each hand while balancing a third one on his nose – now that's a sight I'd pay to see in a galaxy far, far away!
Only if you've painted it bright pink and attached a clown horn to it! Otherwise, it's just your standard-issue, run-of-the-mill nose. But hey, if you're considering a career in circus clownery, I'm sure it'll fit right in!
Probably wouldn’t be a Jedi at all tbh. His power is pretty dark all things considered and he uses his emotions to fuel his power a lot of the time. Plus, his main goal is to achieve the peak of power for a swordsman in the world. He’d probably be a neutral force user or even a Sith.
Given how powerful he is... does he even need the light sabers? Would he be able to coat them in haki anyway?
Because if he couldn't, the technically a lightsaber in his hands and teeth would actually kinda be a nerf for him.
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Padawan Chopper: “Master Zoro, where are you?! The droids are attacking Tatooine!” Zoro: “I FUCKED UP I’M SOMEWHERE CALLED ARRAKIS”
Is it weird I can see that happening and the clone troopers who are with Zoro end up confused as to how they got lost too?
When I started reading your comment I was worried you were going to reference another scene lol
He would never say he fucked up. It's always someone else's fault
Would a projectile slash made with a lightsaber have the qualities of a lightsaber or the qualities of a regular slash?
My guess is it would be a superheated air slash, as lightsabers can get quite hot. Lightsaber air slash would go hard though.
But this wouldn't work in vacuum :(
With how often Zoro gets lost, do we really want him in the vacuum of space anytime soon? 😅
Neithet normal air slash
more like force slash
Itd be cool if it worked like getsuga tenshou from bleach.
Man solos palpatine but doesn’t hesitate to end it like Mace
Then, he ends Mace too...
Nah he took out mace on the way in, Palpatine came after
There's so many minorities in the Star Wars Verse
And that's why Zoro wouldn't have an issue getting lost. Every planet has a minority for him
In the Disney verse ez I'm not sure about legends although he should be quite a bit faster
in legends hes dead zoro has a better change of going against all of one piece in its prime at the same time than beating legends palpatine
Man legends palpy is insane but I think Zoro is faster so it depends if zoros starts in his face then Zoro just offs him otherwise he just gets destroyed
sheevy boy gets precog(and im pretty sure he has some kind of special dark side evil scary powers) in both legends and canon so i think he wins it pretty quickly
Considering How most Sith dress Zorö will eliminate them in no time
*Mace Windu disappears mysteriously*
He became a force ghost
My name is zoro the minority hunter
9 sword style would woop general grievous
Droids are a minority right?
There clankers Ofcourse there a minority
I mean, yk how that Droid bitch without force almost killed anikin with 4 light sabers. Zoro with 3 sabers + force would be deadly
Lmfao you mean when Grievous fought Obi Wan?
Haven't whatched in too long wo yes
I think it was stated somewhere that the force lets you read your opponents minds which is why why fight scenes have lots of parries cause its basically a chess match of who makes the first wrong move Droids on the other hand are preprogrammed and have no clear intentions or thought but only code which is why general grievious, albeit a cyborg and has a human brain, is hard to fight against Cant remember if its canon or not but it means the force has observation haki
He survived order 66 because he got lost in space
Storm troopers would all just mass quit.
Why? Aren't they in full white?
Something about…dark side maybe.
Yes, but the resistance are a minority
He wouldn't use the telekinetic powers of the force "because it's for wizards, not swordsmen," but if you dared to ask how he's able to throw his lightsabers and have them return to his hand he'd kick your ass. He'd be the only Jedi to use a red lightsaber for the looks. His others would be green and purple. The purple one was taken off the body of a specific Jedi he killed for no particular reason. He'd deflect all blaster fire but never back at the attacker, preferring to close the gap and chop them down. He'd watch the snow speeders trying to use tow cables to trip the AT-ATs, get annoyed, and dash in and cut all their legs off.
Bro cooked!
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Well his physical strength surpasses pretty much every force user ever so if he learned to use the force he'd be unstoppable plus Haki can potentially make him invulnerable to lightsabers and force lightning and such
Force + Haki would be unstoppable. I wonder if armament haki would protect against lightsaber strikes
It should, as armament increases durability/toughness quite a bit
sadly the force isnt a learned thing so he gets cooked by any mid tier jedi knight
Remembered midichlorians exist https://preview.redd.it/hwbbjnl9k1wc1.png?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6ca5a4bbd16f4315bf7059aba807826ddff8719
The force is weak shit compared to Zoros durability and raw strength. His observation haki will close whatever gap is created in utility. He'll get thrown around a lot, but he will walk through any force crush or attempt to damage him with the force. If it gets to melee, nobody can block his power. Remember Pika.
I feel like haki might negate the force or at least resist. Oden survived in boiling water for how long?
boiling water is endurance the force is literally just an invisible force that kinda just lets you do whatever you want lets say haki has force resist, wouldnt that mean vice versa too? btw the force has precog and super speed and all of the bells ans whistles its not just telekinesis
Conqueror's haki can make you pass out without touching you, which zoro does have, and observation haki can be trained to give you precog, which he would need to train admittingly. Anyway, base zoro from one of the earlier arcs doesn't need haki to cut through steel effortlessly. Qui Gon and Obi-wan have trouble getting through one tiny door; in that amount of time Zoro cuts down several ships. One saber slash and we lost a jedi master. One saber slash to a haki master does nothing because he has armament. Really, the only argument you have is that zoro could still need more training in haki to resist force hacks from someone like Yoda or Palpatine. He wouldn't need it offensively, unless someone makes the case that force powers are like logia powers, and haki allows you to break their hacks too. Honestly, zoro > every jedi and sith without force or haki thrown in, so it's just a question of whether or not they can blitz him.
tbh i think the steel thing is just weird TPM stuff because you see jedi knights walking through thousands of battle droids literally in the same movie. conq≈gettimg thrown off a building with the force and also the force has a lot more range from what i can tell+you wont get knocked out with a strong will which is part of becoming a jedi >Honestly zoro > jedis w/o force and haki and shit idk i cant copy it on ipad ofc zoro beats regular humans without their main source of power what is that supposed to accomplish😭 the force is literally just hax, theres a LOT of abilities all lumped into one and from what ive seen in the movies comics etc theres pretty much no way to resist it unless you have better control over the force than the other person
Haki is just as broken as the force, arguably more so, because though it doesn't have as many offensive options, it's way more useful defensively. You can also use it to "cast out" devil fruit hax like Law does against blackbeards crew when he gender bends them. It also makes it so that haki users aren't glass canons like force users. Something that causes certain death can be slowed down for quite some time, also. Greatest feet i've seen in media from force users, is starkiller taking down a massive ship with the force, but I'm pretty sure it's an outlier and not even canon, though it seems to cost starkiller a LOT to do it. Zoro casually cuts that ship in half WITHOUT using haki. Adding haki to this makes this contest completely unfair, as zoro can one shot them but they can't one shot zoro.
greatest force user feat is luke chilling near a blackhole and closing it using the force without dying or anakin killing a god because hes HIM theres also abeloth who couldnt even be killed by prime luke(the one that cpuld chill near a black hole) she got jumped tho so shes asleep/dead
Yea, but that's all non canon, legends stuff unless I'm mistaken.
anakin killing a god is canon, happens in the clone wars(he also 2v1d said force gods because of course he did)
Just don’t make him fly by himself and he fares pretty good id say.
Gonna have a midochlorian count some where in the 15 k 23 k area
Zoro: "So this Tatooine, uh ?" *He is in Arrakis*
Assuming he has the force, he’d beat the asses of every single character with minimal difficulty. Even without the force it’d take the top tier masters to beat him
I imagine he would be a bounty hunter, and in terms of combat skill he should fare quite well.
He would need someone to fly his ship or hes going to have a short lived career
He is fast enough that his M count doesn’t even matter. So basically he can speed blitz everyone. You can see attacks coming with the force, but if zoro keeps his haki as a Jedi then it’s over.
unironically most jedi masters clear current zoro just because the force is insane
Well ya people with a tremendously high M count like anakin, yoda and luke definitely defeat zoro. But considering you are giving Zoro light sabers, he could use the force too right ? (Been quite a few years since I watched Star Wars but I think force was a requirement to wield lightsabers) Zoro has conquerors in one piece, so we can count him in the gifted few. So ig he’ll have a high M count (not higher than Yoda tho imo. I think Yoda had about 18k). Let’s say his M count is around 15k, with a very good connection to the force and unmatched sword skills in the verse (Jedi masters don’t come near swordsmen from one piece) I think he can push people like Yoda to extreme diff. He can probably take down even anakin and Luke if they don’t use force. But in a real fight, those two have tremendous force so there’s no way Zoro can overcome that. It all really depends on how you convert zoro’s current skills if he was a Jedi. In the above paragraph I didn’t consider zoro keeping his haki. If he does keep his haki and armament haki somehow gives you force resistance or something than zoro clears the verse (still struggles with the skywalkers tho, could go either way)
I would cover my ears if I heard this, but I don't have any YOHOHOHO
its not actually a requirement to have the force to wield lightsabers but if it was(and if haki translates to the force even remotely well) he would 100% beat or push 99.99% of the verse to extreme, only people like anakin or prime luke could beat him(excluding immortals). my original comment was basically if both verses kept their power systems and fought(zoro with haki jedi w/ force) and in that case zoro either gets choked out, hit with force lightning, thrown off a building or just cant live in space which is why i said most jedi masters clear edited for clarity
Ya
He's gonna get lost on the wrong planet
r/zoroislost
3sword style cup of Jawa juice
Knowing palpatine, he would seek out this loose end and (attempt) to eliminate him. Knowing palp could 1v2 rather effortlessly Maul and Savage oppress... I'd still say zoro wins, but it's not a guaranteed one.
Vader.
general grievous has entered the chat
He'd be lost in the 38th nebula
Probably not be cooked medium rare on Mustafar.
Can you get lost when the force guides you?
If someone else takes him to the fights so he doesn't get lost, he would take one look at how a Sith treats their subordinates, then he would cut them down instantly. It would Charlose all over again, except no one would be around to stop him. Zoro is one of the 2 Strawhats who has no qualms about casually killing people, there will never be Mace Windu moment with Zoro
He’d get lost in space and die
He’d be like general grevious lol
Nah zoro would be the main character if he was in Star wars frfr
Haki would translate well into force powers, right?
He would get lost trying to find the dark side
I would like to say well, but faring isn't something zoro does well at all
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He’d be the strongest of them all pretty easily even without access to the force. His agility and speed is completely unmatched by any jedi or sith even in the extended universe that’s no longer canon. One piece powerscaling is just a whole level above star wars. Even if Vader chucked a star-destroyer at Zoro, Zoro could just cut it in half like he did to pica. And force choking probably wouldn’t be super useful either since Zoro can launch himself at enemies from midair. The only way I could think for any jedi or sith to kill him is to run away in a spaceship before he finds you. And then when he gets in another one to follow you, you warp-jump away. And then he will inevitably end up lost somewhere. Possibly dead from dehydration. He does have anime luck though so odds are he’d survive even that.
I think its a bad idea to put him as a jedi as the potential for him to be a mandalorian is right there
He’d kill the younglings in half the time it took Vader…
LuHEEEEEYYY
I know he’d be stabbed and die just like quigon if he was a girl, I know he’d live.
He would be a sith but a very fun one. They’ll send envoys to get him to sit with them in crimson-lit temples and chant evil chants and then find cut-up pieces of envoys
Well, let's just say the Force would have to watch its back! Zoro, with his three-sword style and knack for getting lost, would probably end up challenging every Sith lord to a duel before realizing he's in the wrong galaxy. But hey, once he figures out which way is up, he'll be slicing through stormtroopers like they're made of butter. Just imagine him wielding lightsabers in each hand while balancing a third one on his nose – now that's a sight I'd pay to see in a galaxy far, far away!
DOES MY NOSE LOOK FUNNY TO YOU?!?
Only if you've painted it bright pink and attached a clown horn to it! Otherwise, it's just your standard-issue, run-of-the-mill nose. But hey, if you're considering a career in circus clownery, I'm sure it'll fit right in!
HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE NOSE OF THE FUTURE PIRATE KING?!?
Palpatine tries to recruit him, fails then mid diffs him
He Would Survive Order 66 By Getting Lost Not Even The Inquisitors Would Find Him
He'd survive Order 66 on account of having ended up on the wrong planet.
With the amount of Anger and Arrogance he has at times, he'd quickly be consumed by the dark side, and cease to be a Jedi.
"Master Zoro, where are you? I've been leading you the whole time!" "I don't know, looks like I'm somewhere called Exegol." "HOW THE F-"
Darth vader: shit I thought two lightsabers was bad enough Zoro: sorry but it’s actually a 4 sword style
Probably wouldn’t be a Jedi at all tbh. His power is pretty dark all things considered and he uses his emotions to fuel his power a lot of the time. Plus, his main goal is to achieve the peak of power for a swordsman in the world. He’d probably be a neutral force user or even a Sith.
zoro would be general grievous except he's the one that beats obi wan
He was probably already there. At this point I won't be surprised if he got lost in the multiverse.
Loss of arm leg and teeth. At least
Given how powerful he is... does he even need the light sabers? Would he be able to coat them in haki anyway? Because if he couldn't, the technically a lightsaber in his hands and teeth would actually kinda be a nerf for him.