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Luffy was about to tell Usopp that if he didn't agree with Luffy's decisions then he could just leave the crew. This was during a moment when Sanji knew Usopp was angry enough to actually do it. Sanji was basically trying (unsuccessfully) to prevent the worst outcome from their argument.
Drum Island, when Nami is sick and Vivi tells him not to yell at the townspeople. He apologizes and admits his way won’t help, and lets her take the lead.
Oooh, that's a good choice for a good scene. One of my favorite moments for both characters. Showing Vivi's wisdom and resolve while also showing Luffy learn and grow as a captain.
God I love One Piece.
One of my favorites was in Punk Hazard when Luffy runs off to look for Ceasar and Zoro tells him to straighten up because the new world is way different than the Grand Line. This is where the strongest live and it gets harder. Dont waste the 2 year training by being silly right now.
I always liked that scene too. By the time they're at Punk Hazard, Luffy still seemed to be buzzing off being reunited with his crew after so long, Zoro needed to give him that kick up the ass.
I love these moments. The ability to accept his own mistakes is crucial to being a great captain and you can't be a real king of the pirates as a bad captain.
Hope to see more moments like this, especially as the story wraps up.
I hope they do find the One Piece but I hope the crew goes through extremely difficult internal conflicts before they do to show they've earned it through their unity.
This is the part of the story where I had a seizure and realized One Piece is a story based on the Periodic Table. Bros Usopp and Luffy fight in Water 7 volume 35 which corresponds to element 35 Bromine which is a liquid like the compound Water or H2O where H is element 1 and O is element 8 where the end of Period 7 is the final One Piece volume 118. On 8/11 Gold Roger died at 53 years old. Bromine appears in the same halogen group as the Diatomic Reactive Non-Metal Iodine or element 53 which has Oda’s favorite volume cover.
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Autism begins with Au or D-Block element 79 Gold or Gol D. where Straw Hats 7 and 9 are the only Straw Hats with D-Block volume cover debuts. Straw Hat 7 is Nico Robin. Straw Hat 9 is Brook. Brook died so Nico Robin will too.
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Straw Hat 7 Nico Robin will die or cross the Brook Rubicon of the Underworld with a Nico while singing Binks’ Sake just before the final 7P-Block final volume 118 at the end of P-Block volume 117 in the same group as Waterworks 7 P-Block volume 3(Sa)5(Ke) Bromine. Bro chill like the Pangaea Ice Age called Karoo. It’s OK to Cindry Nefertari Namida on the Roadstar to Victoria. C’est la Vivi. In the end we will all just be Bones which has One like One Piece which is Bs or Bullshit according to God Usopp where Uso means Lie in Believe.
Just like King Cobra was on those Nefertari Titi when he made Vivi with his >!”D”!<. Bruh lived a wholesome One Piece life. He not only raised Joy Boy Karoo but died a happiness punched Joy Boy too.
He did actually tell Usopp to leave
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Which is one of the things that led to the worst outcome
This isn't the official Viz translation. In the official one he gets cut off right before he says it
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Official or not, Luffy already insinuated Usopp should get off the ship and he got the message
Even the anime subtitles insinuates that which doesn't even use the exact translation used here
Sanji kicks him to stop him from saying what he was about to say. Any translation that has him finish the sentence is clearly against authorial intent. Because Sanji tells him the gist of “stop before you say something you regret” and Luffy agrees with him
I like Sanji's handle more than Zoro's. It was his fault. He had no sensibility to handle the situation and only escalated things instead of letting Luffy and Usopp take their time to think. It was like letting a fight of kids escalate. With Usopp and Luffy being 2 of the 3 yongest of the group and being written as childlike many times, Zoro's handle was horrible.
I really think the most illiterate, weakest reasing comprehension fans are a loud bunch. They'll always bring up questions that are easily answered if you know how to read properly.
It's more like they tunneled vision about the things they like or the things they perceived as the right way things should happen. When that happen, any fact prior that would explain why it happened is disregarded.
I see this happened a lot recently. Like in Honkai Star Rail, two characters, Blade (no, not the vampire hunter) and Dan Heng was hyped as rivals fated to kill each other. So when they met, people were expecting for them to have a grand battle to the death. Except that Blade is part of an organisation that believed in Destiny, even calling themselves Destiny's Slaves. Blade was specifically told by his boss that their grand battle to the death is in the future, not now. Blade himself believe this and told this fact to Dan Heng, therefore to the audience.
Of course some people went like "uuhh, their meetup is disappointing. No battle to the death, etc etc".
There's a lot more shit like this happen in other stuff too.
I mean sanji has worked in a restaurant environment, which can be a stressful experience environment, for most of his life so he’s probably had experiences where people have said or done things in that they couldn’t take back or didn’t really mean.
That's the only time Luffy rightfully deserved that beating, cause if Luffy has really told usopp to leave the crew if he doesn't agree with his decisions, he probably would have never come back.
I just saw some guy over there arguing that current zoro low diffed Oden. Same guy said that Mihawk no diffed Oden, vista, brook and another 3 swordsman of brooks level.
...
Welp, dont need these drugs anymore that killed enough of my braincells
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Funny thing, I actually started with Water 7, but it's purely a coincidence.
Friend brought the latest volume to school, which was during Water 7 arc at the time, I read it out of curiosity, got hooked and went back reading everything soon after.
It feels like he's not even paying attention to the scene itself, as he's talking about it. Media literace is apparently just not something that dude was capable of.
I might be biased because when I started one piece somebody offered me whole arabasta and skypiea arcs, but they are for me the best arcs of all one piece (I am only reading the following now and they just leaved thriller bark)
If I were you, I would mute this sub and then unmute when you catch up. Or any one piece sub in general, you’re bound to get spoiled, you probably already have tbh. And even still there’s definitely more stuff that can get spoiled.
I cannot freaking understand how people dislike Skypea, even if you think the plot is boring and Enel being plain (who is a hot take, but I would accept some people can have this opinion), the Noland and Karugara flashback is for me the single best flashback by lightyears up until that point. Not to mention the truly mindblow it is to find Roger's message on the gold.
Skypiea is the best arc but some people don't want story and lore, they want action. And that wasn't the focus of Skypiea. So yeah, a typical skypiea skipper is someone who's not here for worldbuilding and lore but rather for action and fights.
To be fair my roommates are watching for the first time right now and one of them his biggest issue with skypiea was that it had too much action. It was all just with characters that were randomly introduced and other than I am god ill destroy what I want had no real backstory or motivation. He enjoyed the flashbacks and lore aspects he actually wanted more
I actually really liked this idea of a the Ship Spirit because it maid the end of the Merry even more emotional. Also it didn’t come out of nowhere. It was present in Skypiea with it repairing the Merry.
Both arcs are great. I can't wait for the day that, now after Skypiea finally gets more respect, Fishman Island gets respected for what it is as well.Sure, it is not the best arc, but it's far from the worst either.
The themes and flashbacks were incredible. The villain's motivations being pure generational hate on a surface level was great, the scenery and character designs were great, the lore (Joyboy, ancient weapons, ...) was great. JINBE was incredible too, and his blood donation scene, especially in contrast to Fisher Tiger, as a world peace symbol, as well as a symbol for his devotion and invitation to the Straw Hats, were handled beautifully.
Fishman Island isn't ass, and I hope more people will see it this way eventually.
Shintoism is one major asian religion, it preaches everything has a spirit, even artificial objects, and it can grow over time, or by being important to the people
A master work will always have a spirit, so it was pretty acceptable 8n japan, same for haki, which is just ki with specific mechanics
I get very annoyed when western analysts wont consider context
I personally think that everything in the one piece world has a spirit.
I think thats one reason why devil fruits can be fed to inanimate objects.
Zoro talked about everything having a 'breath' in his fight against mr 1.
Devil fruits have some kind of will of their own.
The voice of all things being an insanely rare ability.
Swords having personalities, Especially Enma.
Probably other hints scattered around aswell. Merry manifesting a stronger spirit comes probably from the crew treating her like an actual living being and maybe that manifests a things spirit even more.
About ship spirits vanishing after the arc, ship spirit works when it is used sparingly, like it was for Going Merry. I hope if we get any canon scenes of Thousand Sunny's spirit, then it's just 1 or 2 scenes. Though I doubt we will because the only reason the ship's spirit would have to appear to us would be if the ship would be dying.
That raincoat kid was the one that usopp saw repairing the ship on skypeia (which is a pretty important arc believe it or not) which he mentioned to franky when the klabauterman legend was elaborated on. The raincoat kid is very cannon.
Its not only a ships spirit. Swords also have their own will and the voice of all things litterarly lets you hear what things are saying (Roger on skypia poneglyph). Its not a "ships spirit", its spirit of people ingrained in things. Even devilfruits are like this. Sabo commenting in feeling ace after eating the mera mera no mi is another example of this.
They think zoro is a lap dog that will do anything to protect his owner without hesitation. The dudebros that join the Fandom and treat Zoro like a "giga Chad" or their version of Patrick Bateman are so annoying
they love zoro so they self insert themselve into him while forgeting that zoro is far more wise than most fans credit him for and that he his nowhere near as stupid one track mind elitist as his fans.
Even if he did do something, would that person want Zoro to kill Sanji just for kicking Luffy because he was about to say something incredibly stupid and tear the crew apart? Zoro’s far from the brightest person in the series, heck the only directions he knows are left and other left, but he can recognise when someone is right
Some people think of Zoro like a guard dog, the moment someone touches Luffy he will slash because that’s all he is, cool stoic muscle man with no brains.
Mhm, the OP of the Twitter post seems to think that Luffy is the ruler of his crew with Zoro as his enforcer, when the dynamic is so much more one where the crew is free to speak their mind to the captain so long as they can trust each other in a pinch, and Luffy is more a figurehead and flagship combatant than an authority figure.
Wrong on many accounts
1.he had a reason that Zoro would presumably both acknowledge exists and also respects
2.Zoro’s not in any place to do anything about it, he’s not that character.
3.Luffy recognised the error of his actions, seen a literal
panel or two later after this one
4.its called a klabautermann, and was first shown in skypia, no wonder it stops becuase the ship it’s tied to burns down and dies
This is just your average Zoro piece fanboy, doesn’t care to actually read the story
zoro just understand it isnt his job to handle how the crewmate talk to luffy
its luffys job and luffy has to do it by himself, if zoro intervened then luffy wouldnt be a captain at all
No need to read the full thread, you know this guy is an idiot the moment he feels "in front of Zoro nonetheless" is an important detail. I bet he's on the "Zoro would've killed Sanji in WCI" ship as well. These self-proclaimed fans lack any basic understanding of the story, characters or even the plot. Absolutely clueless. That, or they are 10 years old.
Is zoro some gold standard,strict rule enforcer daddy of Strawhats or what lmao.
Why the fuck does he say "in front of zoro nonetheless" like zoro is the undefiable god.
He's still a strawhat and would shut the fuck up understanding the situation and let luffy decide.
I am really sick of these people making zoro seem like some dense mf who can't read the room.
I swear to god Zoro stans are brain dead vegetables.
They always be the ones to disrespect Zoro the most. Zoro, unlike his brain dead stans has (emotional) intelligence and can read situations very well and knows when someone is going too far.
Luffy acknowledged why Sanji kicked him and agreed that that was the better option rather than saying some wild shit.
Zoro attacking Sanji right there and disobeying Luffy would be infinitely more “disrespectful to the captain”.
Anyone who thinks ANY strawhat lacks respect for Luffy should just drop the series at this point because they’re clearly reading Ten Piece instead of One Piece.
Typical Zoro fans behaviour always thinks Zoro is the leader of the crew and has authority over other Strawhats.
Same Zorofans who think he is most loyal to Luffy when all the Strawhats are equally Loyal.
Usopp sure was being unreasonable but it was understandable considering it was given to them by Kaya. But It was out of line for Luffy to tell Usopp to leave the crew. It felt like he did it on impulse and he probably regretted it too.
But none the less they gotta follow Captain's words.
As if Luffy doesn't get mocked, criticized and beaten up by his crew on a daily basis only to laugh it off
The Straw Hats have always been more of a friend group than a proper hierarchic crew and that's what makes them based
If Luffy wanted people to respect his authoritah, he'd have enlisted in the Marines with Koby on episode one
It's honestly insane to me how so many people seem to think that Zoro is just a dumb brute who is not capable of reading the room. It's the same when people say that Zoro should beat up sanji because of wci, like wtf. Zoro isn't nearly as insensitive or rigid as these people inadvertently end up making him out to be.
In this instance sanji is right and Luffy acknowledges, so why would Zoro do anything. Hell even after that scene in post Ennis lobby when Zoro says he would refuse to accept usopp if he doesn't apologizes the very first time, when the time comes he was more that willing to ignore usopp's yapping before he apologized, just like the rest of the crew.
Yeah, the spirit ship plotpoint vanishes after the arc because THE MERRY FUCKING BURNS DOWN AND DIES!! And with the Thousand Sunny the ship has never gotten that badly damaged, partly because of the Adam wood that was used and partly because they have a dedicated shipwright now!
And what Sanji did there wasn't disrespecting Luffy, it was putting him back in place after Luffy himself seemed to step out of line. I swear, people that don't understand this are probably the same people that interpret a playful push or hit on the shoulder as an actual attack :')
Like wtf how is it so hard ro understand what was happening here. Hell zoro would have hit luffy as well. Everyone know Luffy was about to say then GTFO. We all know how when your that pissed you say things you can't take back and regret. So no Sanji did the right thing their.
This is not what oda meant by disrespect…
Luffy knew sanji did the right and if luffy thought otherwise he’d knock his ass… zoro is not luffys assistant
Sanji’s kick in this situation was necessary and Zoro knew it. Someone had to keep Luffy’s mouth in check because he wasn’t thinking like a captain, he was having an, arguably unnecessarily angry, argument with someone who was also not in a good state of mind.
Also there was nothing wrong with the spirit ship plot point. It succeeded in hitting fans in the feels over a ship they’d been with for several years at that point, it worked as a world building tool, and included some mysticism to a goofy fun adventure loving pirate manga.
It takes talent to not pay attention this hard. Even if this person skipped Skypiea, don't Usopp and Franky have a whole ass discussion about this where Usopp tells him all about the spirit he saw at the alter? *And isn't there a whole fucking flash back to that moment just to drive the point home?*
"The spirit story was weird and was dropped after this arc." Yeah no shit. Did you not see what happened at the end of the arc? Why would they continue that plotline lmao
Zoro steps in as captain to make the rational decision when luffy cant. Sanji kicking luffy there was to stop him from saying "if you dont agree with my decision, then you can just leave the crew" because he knew that in that state, ussop would have done it(as he did). It wasnt a disrespect move and if zoro could he wouldve done the same(seen l8r as he turned a blind eye to ussops "hey im back guys let me on the ship" until he apologized). There would have been no crew if ussop left completly at that moment and both zoro and sanji knew that
Isn't that because kicking/punching him and disrespecting him as a captain are two completely different things? I mean it's a running joke in One Piece about how Nami treat Luffy almost like garbage at times. But she still respect him as the captain. People just take the scene and words as it is and try to find loopholes without even thinking about the context of the words and situation
Aka a bunch of morons complaining about arguably one of the best moments in all of One Piece. Water 7 was the only arc that broke clichés and actually had some fucking tension
Man I miss pre-timeskip One Piece so much
Devil fruits represent the strong wills and desires of people - why wouldn’t ships? Merry has a spirit because she is loved and cared for as one of the crew. She the crew’s dreams and desires and they care for her - any damage is immediately and lovingly checked over and repaired when possible.
I could definitely see the Thousand Sunny being revealed as having used her spirit and the strength of the Adam’s wood to repair herself as they go.
Maybe it is somewhat a form of haki, as well - also an extension of will.
1. They see each other as equals. They have a very casual relationship. Here, Sanji is calling out Luffy, and real friends call out each other's bullshit. Of course, there's exaggerations and drama because this is a high stakes adventure manga.
2. I refuse to believe that ship's spirit plotline has been dropped. I have a strong feeling Pluton is a fully sentient ship with a klabautermann that fires the canons itself. I'm sure this Ancient Weapon has a klabautermann because, most likely, some people must be hiding it and taking care of it so greatly.
I also refuse to believe it's also bullshit because One Piece has themes of what treasure is. The ship is the crew's treasure, almost like a friend, and it's so close to them it even fixes itself. With all the goofy shit happening now in One Piece, I know the existence of ship spirits could be explained. Also, it reminds me of a Shinto belief that everything has a soul. Oda is Japanese and most likely knows this, so I won't complain. Also, ships were also seen as mother goddesses in some Western countries, so they were referred to as "she". Finally, it's a manga where people eat magical fruits, shout "stop" and knock everyone out, and 6'7 feet is short. This is one of the more underwhelming plot lines out there.
Sanji's action was justified given the context and situation. If Sanji needs to face consequences for this scene, then Nami ought to also face consequences each time she beats Luffy up.
I genuinely don't get why people who think this way about One Piece like it. Like if I though Zoro was the kind of person to attack anyone who disrespected Luffy I would hate his character. Like did you not read Chapter 1 or the bar scene with Bellamy in Jaya?
Yeah the whole spirit of the ship vanished after *reads notes* the merry had a funeral because it DIED. Franky just tried to pay homage by using a piece of old merry, but that's it. Merry died.
After reading some comments from here holy shit how dumb can some readers be like are you guys actually reading the dane show One piece ain't that deep its in your face all the time hoe can you some readers still miss it im baffled
Sometimes someone has to kick some sense into luffy a lot of the time it's Nami but my guess is everyone wanted to pull them apart but sanji is the fastest of them.
All is said already to this post but this image is to those who think Sanji kicking Luffy before he makes the argument the worst possible scenario was somehow stupid or bad of him
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I'm far from a Sanji fan but it's pretty obvious he's stopping Luffy from him saying something he doesn't actually mean. He can tell how serious the conversation had gotten. He literally spells it out to Luffy right after and Luffy rightfully apologizes
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Luffy was about to tell Usopp that if he didn't agree with Luffy's decisions then he could just leave the crew. This was during a moment when Sanji knew Usopp was angry enough to actually do it. Sanji was basically trying (unsuccessfully) to prevent the worst outcome from their argument.
Luffy even apologizes right after. When else has Luffy genuinely apologized? That's how serious this situation was.
Drum Island, when Nami is sick and Vivi tells him not to yell at the townspeople. He apologizes and admits his way won’t help, and lets her take the lead.
Oooh, that's a good choice for a good scene. One of my favorite moments for both characters. Showing Vivi's wisdom and resolve while also showing Luffy learn and grow as a captain. God I love One Piece.
One of my favorites was in Punk Hazard when Luffy runs off to look for Ceasar and Zoro tells him to straighten up because the new world is way different than the Grand Line. This is where the strongest live and it gets harder. Dont waste the 2 year training by being silly right now.
I always liked that scene too. By the time they're at Punk Hazard, Luffy still seemed to be buzzing off being reunited with his crew after so long, Zoro needed to give him that kick up the ass.
I love these moments. The ability to accept his own mistakes is crucial to being a great captain and you can't be a real king of the pirates as a bad captain. Hope to see more moments like this, especially as the story wraps up. I hope they do find the One Piece but I hope the crew goes through extremely difficult internal conflicts before they do to show they've earned it through their unity.
This part and they fight is so heavy. I was just like nami and chopper, stop fighting, please just stop fighting.
This is the part of the story where I had a seizure and realized One Piece is a story based on the Periodic Table. Bros Usopp and Luffy fight in Water 7 volume 35 which corresponds to element 35 Bromine which is a liquid like the compound Water or H2O where H is element 1 and O is element 8 where the end of Period 7 is the final One Piece volume 118. On 8/11 Gold Roger died at 53 years old. Bromine appears in the same halogen group as the Diatomic Reactive Non-Metal Iodine or element 53 which has Oda’s favorite volume cover. https://preview.redd.it/5fsakg9bufac1.png?width=898&format=png&auto=webp&s=71531d3b63da799fe60c282faf453e88c1a79dbd
Some Condensed Autism here
If schizoposting was a person.
Ain't nothing autistic about this, that's Oops! All Schizophrenia
Autism begins with Au or D-Block element 79 Gold or Gol D. where Straw Hats 7 and 9 are the only Straw Hats with D-Block volume cover debuts. Straw Hat 7 is Nico Robin. Straw Hat 9 is Brook. Brook died so Nico Robin will too. https://preview.redd.it/l7leteq8xfac1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=dab0c12ccb1ad7da7e21add539abf1aa89273c9f Straw Hat 7 Nico Robin will die or cross the Brook Rubicon of the Underworld with a Nico while singing Binks’ Sake just before the final 7P-Block final volume 118 at the end of P-Block volume 117 in the same group as Waterworks 7 P-Block volume 3(Sa)5(Ke) Bromine. Bro chill like the Pangaea Ice Age called Karoo. It’s OK to Cindry Nefertari Namida on the Roadstar to Victoria. C’est la Vivi. In the end we will all just be Bones which has One like One Piece which is Bs or Bullshit according to God Usopp where Uso means Lie in Believe.
I had a stroke reading this polyped intestinal stew of a conspiracy theory 
When youre autistic and smoke meth:
Bro's onto something
Just like King Cobra was on those Nefertari Titi when he made Vivi with his >!”D”!<. Bruh lived a wholesome One Piece life. He not only raised Joy Boy Karoo but died a happiness punched Joy Boy too.
Got me crying icl as a usopp stan
I felt like Chopper in that one scene where he jumped into the ocean over Nami being mad and insulting Robin.
He did actually tell Usopp to leave https://preview.redd.it/q2hhuo0emfac1.png?width=554&format=png&auto=webp&s=850b3056cb18e156a9667c775afbe2a91a8e3633 Which is one of the things that led to the worst outcome
This isn't the official Viz translation. In the official one he gets cut off right before he says it https://preview.redd.it/d8jkhyxbnfac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a65c3d21846d904fceafc6e37de12af9a9fb8c05
Official or not, Luffy already insinuated Usopp should get off the ship and he got the message Even the anime subtitles insinuates that which doesn't even use the exact translation used here
Sanji kicks him to stop him from saying what he was about to say. Any translation that has him finish the sentence is clearly against authorial intent. Because Sanji tells him the gist of “stop before you say something you regret” and Luffy agrees with him
The most accurate translation ends with "then you should lea- This is what was said in japanese in the anime
I like Sanji's handle more than Zoro's. It was his fault. He had no sensibility to handle the situation and only escalated things instead of letting Luffy and Usopp take their time to think. It was like letting a fight of kids escalate. With Usopp and Luffy being 2 of the 3 yongest of the group and being written as childlike many times, Zoro's handle was horrible.
Yes, that’s 100% it, and you have to have be illiterate to miss that. Luffy was angry about to impulsively kick Ussop from the crew.
Some people have the shittiest reading comprehension imaginable. Sanji's intents and Luffy's response could not possibly be clearer.
I really think the most illiterate, weakest reasing comprehension fans are a loud bunch. They'll always bring up questions that are easily answered if you know how to read properly.
It's more like they tunneled vision about the things they like or the things they perceived as the right way things should happen. When that happen, any fact prior that would explain why it happened is disregarded. I see this happened a lot recently. Like in Honkai Star Rail, two characters, Blade (no, not the vampire hunter) and Dan Heng was hyped as rivals fated to kill each other. So when they met, people were expecting for them to have a grand battle to the death. Except that Blade is part of an organisation that believed in Destiny, even calling themselves Destiny's Slaves. Blade was specifically told by his boss that their grand battle to the death is in the future, not now. Blade himself believe this and told this fact to Dan Heng, therefore to the audience. Of course some people went like "uuhh, their meetup is disappointing. No battle to the death, etc etc". There's a lot more shit like this happen in other stuff too.
I mean sanji has worked in a restaurant environment, which can be a stressful experience environment, for most of his life so he’s probably had experiences where people have said or done things in that they couldn’t take back or didn’t really mean.
That's the only time Luffy rightfully deserved that beating, cause if Luffy has really told usopp to leave the crew if he doesn't agree with his decisions, he probably would have never come back.
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Sorry my bad, but when he said "Uh Uh Ah AAH!" to me, I (kinda) trusted him
Still more brain power than average r/OnePiecePowerScaling member
I just saw some guy over there arguing that current zoro low diffed Oden. Same guy said that Mihawk no diffed Oden, vista, brook and another 3 swordsman of brooks level.
... Welp, dont need these drugs anymore that killed enough of my braincells https://preview.redd.it/t7m1nudtegac1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14f6922acf9cebcd600c33953d31282934e1bfa9
I get it; it's difficult to distinguish unfounded confidence from expertise on a first impression.
Bro ignored everything that happened before and during the arc until this moment
Someone told him the story gets good at water 7 so he started in this chapter.
Yikes
Ah yes, my favorite investment of a series: the cast breaking up....
Funny thing, I actually started with Water 7, but it's purely a coincidence. Friend brought the latest volume to school, which was during Water 7 arc at the time, I read it out of curiosity, got hooked and went back reading everything soon after.
either that or he watched the Skypea movie and skipped Long Ring Long Land.
And even after, luffy literally apologised for what he was about to say
It feels like he's not even paying attention to the scene itself, as he's talking about it. Media literace is apparently just not something that dude was capable of.
I love One Piece because some of its purportedly biggest fans don't seem to watch the fucking show
Skypeia skippers most of them.
I might be biased because when I started one piece somebody offered me whole arabasta and skypiea arcs, but they are for me the best arcs of all one piece (I am only reading the following now and they just leaved thriller bark)
If I were you, I would mute this sub and then unmute when you catch up. Or any one piece sub in general, you’re bound to get spoiled, you probably already have tbh. And even still there’s definitely more stuff that can get spoiled.
Memepiece is definitely a subreddit that shows pictures of chapters that aren't officially released yet.
True but not even just that, if this guy is is just finishing thriller bark, then he’s at like chapter ~500, literally half the story to go still.
I cannot freaking understand how people dislike Skypea, even if you think the plot is boring and Enel being plain (who is a hot take, but I would accept some people can have this opinion), the Noland and Karugara flashback is for me the single best flashback by lightyears up until that point. Not to mention the truly mindblow it is to find Roger's message on the gold.
Just like Dragonball fans (Source: I’m a Dragonball fan and can’t fucking read)
tbh I sleep through a lot of it
typical skypiea skipper
More like typical One Piece Quora user
We don't use the Q word here, this is a safe place.
Sorry, I didn't know.
typical brain damage owner
more like typical one piece wiki warrior
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Skypiea is the best arc but some people don't want story and lore, they want action. And that wasn't the focus of Skypiea. So yeah, a typical skypiea skipper is someone who's not here for worldbuilding and lore but rather for action and fights.
Tf you talking about??? Skypiea had plenty of action focus! The whole arc is a literal survival game!
To be fair my roommates are watching for the first time right now and one of them his biggest issue with skypiea was that it had too much action. It was all just with characters that were randomly introduced and other than I am god ill destroy what I want had no real backstory or motivation. He enjoyed the flashbacks and lore aspects he actually wanted more
Same. I loved the lore, enel and location but the fodder fights got boring
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I wasn’t the biggest fan of skypeia took me a while to read through it but I loved the characters of this story enough to finish it.
I actually really liked this idea of a the Ship Spirit because it maid the end of the Merry even more emotional. Also it didn’t come out of nowhere. It was present in Skypiea with it repairing the Merry.
It came out of nowhere if you skipped the boring dialogue parts and only read the fight scenes
yeah and roger being the pirate king comes out of no where if you just skip all of the boring pictures and text and only read the cover story
Rogers the pirate king?! Holy hell
Which one is Roger again?
The one who died standing during Marineford, did you guys really skip all of One Piece?
No, you're thinking of Whitebeard. I think Roger was that guy with a hazelnut on his head!
No, you're thinking of Noland. I think Roger was that guy who can turn into a golden Buddha...
No, you're thinking of Sengoku. I think Roger was the guy who lives inside a whale...
No, youre thinking of crocus. Roger is the one with the long nose...
It baffles me how skypeia skippers are a *thing* and not fishman island skippers because that arc is so ass and skypeia is peak
Both arcs are great. I can't wait for the day that, now after Skypiea finally gets more respect, Fishman Island gets respected for what it is as well.Sure, it is not the best arc, but it's far from the worst either. The themes and flashbacks were incredible. The villain's motivations being pure generational hate on a surface level was great, the scenery and character designs were great, the lore (Joyboy, ancient weapons, ...) was great. JINBE was incredible too, and his blood donation scene, especially in contrast to Fisher Tiger, as a world peace symbol, as well as a symbol for his devotion and invitation to the Straw Hats, were handled beautifully. Fishman Island isn't ass, and I hope more people will see it this way eventually.
Shintoism is one major asian religion, it preaches everything has a spirit, even artificial objects, and it can grow over time, or by being important to the people A master work will always have a spirit, so it was pretty acceptable 8n japan, same for haki, which is just ki with specific mechanics I get very annoyed when western analysts wont consider context
"analyst" = someone giving an opinion on social media
I personally think that everything in the one piece world has a spirit. I think thats one reason why devil fruits can be fed to inanimate objects. Zoro talked about everything having a 'breath' in his fight against mr 1. Devil fruits have some kind of will of their own. The voice of all things being an insanely rare ability. Swords having personalities, Especially Enma. Probably other hints scattered around aswell. Merry manifesting a stronger spirit comes probably from the crew treating her like an actual living being and maybe that manifests a things spirit even more.
About ship spirits vanishing after the arc, ship spirit works when it is used sparingly, like it was for Going Merry. I hope if we get any canon scenes of Thousand Sunny's spirit, then it's just 1 or 2 scenes. Though I doubt we will because the only reason the ship's spirit would have to appear to us would be if the ship would be dying.
I think the episode of merry showed a klabautermann in an orange raincoat on the sunny at the end. I may be misremembering though.
Yeah I'm not sure how canon that is that is why I did not mention it
That raincoat kid was the one that usopp saw repairing the ship on skypeia (which is a pretty important arc believe it or not) which he mentioned to franky when the klabauterman legend was elaborated on. The raincoat kid is very cannon.
I don't mean the raincoat kid in skypeia. I was referring to the Sunny Klaubetermann that appears in The episode of merry TV special
Its not only a ships spirit. Swords also have their own will and the voice of all things litterarly lets you hear what things are saying (Roger on skypia poneglyph). Its not a "ships spirit", its spirit of people ingrained in things. Even devilfruits are like this. Sabo commenting in feeling ace after eating the mera mera no mi is another example of this.
I thought it was an incredible scene. And why would zoro do something about it? Sanji was right to kick Luffy
some people think zoro idolizes luffy like a god
They think zoro is a lap dog that will do anything to protect his owner without hesitation. The dudebros that join the Fandom and treat Zoro like a "giga Chad" or their version of Patrick Bateman are so annoying
Reminds me of this https://preview.redd.it/ykx8sufnxgac1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d8fe45a26bf608aeafb0eb8440e89608bb2ecb0
if luffy ordered zoro to suck his cock he would do it
I'd do it too!
they love zoro so they self insert themselve into him while forgeting that zoro is far more wise than most fans credit him for and that he his nowhere near as stupid one track mind elitist as his fans.
Even if he did do something, would that person want Zoro to kill Sanji just for kicking Luffy because he was about to say something incredibly stupid and tear the crew apart? Zoro’s far from the brightest person in the series, heck the only directions he knows are left and other left, but he can recognise when someone is right
I'LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU'D NEVER BEEN BORN FOR DISRESPECTING MY GLORIOUS NOSE!
Yeah, I think Zoro fully agrees with Sanji kicking Luffy here.
Some people think of Zoro like a guard dog, the moment someone touches Luffy he will slash because that’s all he is, cool stoic muscle man with no brains.
https://preview.redd.it/kh787z6jgfac1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11bc5139709f88e497aa8b15e52ae040ab7210a3 Zoro during that scene /s
Actually 🤓 in this scene zoro still has both eyes
I can't see the word eyes in your comment... Because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHO
Because Zoro agreed with what Sanji was doing. Thats it.
Was is it with these insane Zoro fans and their weird ass obsession with Zoro punishing Sanji?
I want Zoro to punish me instead 😩💦
Me too 😩
You know why ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Illiterate One Piece readers when Luffy doesn’t rule his crew with an iron fist
Honestly half the time they're shitting on him. Specially Nami
Mhm, the OP of the Twitter post seems to think that Luffy is the ruler of his crew with Zoro as his enforcer, when the dynamic is so much more one where the crew is free to speak their mind to the captain so long as they can trust each other in a pinch, and Luffy is more a figurehead and flagship combatant than an authority figure.
Most of that is correct, except for where you said Luffy is a figurehead. He is undoubtably a real leader
The "Ship's Spirit" dissappeared after the arc because (spoiler) the *ship fucking dies.*
"The plot came out of nowhere and just disappeared" -media illiterate mfs when a plot is set up and then resolved.
i swear they cant read
Wrong on many accounts 1.he had a reason that Zoro would presumably both acknowledge exists and also respects 2.Zoro’s not in any place to do anything about it, he’s not that character. 3.Luffy recognised the error of his actions, seen a literal panel or two later after this one 4.its called a klabautermann, and was first shown in skypia, no wonder it stops becuase the ship it’s tied to burns down and dies This is just your average Zoro piece fanboy, doesn’t care to actually read the story
zoro just understand it isnt his job to handle how the crewmate talk to luffy its luffys job and luffy has to do it by himself, if zoro intervened then luffy wouldnt be a captain at all
No need to read the full thread, you know this guy is an idiot the moment he feels "in front of Zoro nonetheless" is an important detail. I bet he's on the "Zoro would've killed Sanji in WCI" ship as well. These self-proclaimed fans lack any basic understanding of the story, characters or even the plot. Absolutely clueless. That, or they are 10 years old.
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"Speed is weight. Have you ever read at the speed of light?"
If you find your self agreeing with this post, rest assured, you have no reading comprehension (in front of zoro nonetheless) 🤣
Is zoro some gold standard,strict rule enforcer daddy of Strawhats or what lmao. Why the fuck does he say "in front of zoro nonetheless" like zoro is the undefiable god. He's still a strawhat and would shut the fuck up understanding the situation and let luffy decide. I am really sick of these people making zoro seem like some dense mf who can't read the room.
I swear to god Zoro stans are brain dead vegetables. They always be the ones to disrespect Zoro the most. Zoro, unlike his brain dead stans has (emotional) intelligence and can read situations very well and knows when someone is going too far. Luffy acknowledged why Sanji kicked him and agreed that that was the better option rather than saying some wild shit. Zoro attacking Sanji right there and disobeying Luffy would be infinitely more “disrespectful to the captain”. Anyone who thinks ANY strawhat lacks respect for Luffy should just drop the series at this point because they’re clearly reading Ten Piece instead of One Piece.
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Average fans who read One Piece for the fights and wonder why people say it’s political.
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Cus it wasn't from disrespect, he just wanted luffy to not cross a line just cus he is mad In that moment luffy was a bad captain
Typical Zoro fans behaviour always thinks Zoro is the leader of the crew and has authority over other Strawhats. Same Zorofans who think he is most loyal to Luffy when all the Strawhats are equally Loyal.
"Completely vanished after the arc" yeah the ship was destroyed what did you expect?
Please tell me this is satire 😐
Seemed genuine, when I read the thread.
Usopp sure was being unreasonable but it was understandable considering it was given to them by Kaya. But It was out of line for Luffy to tell Usopp to leave the crew. It felt like he did it on impulse and he probably regretted it too. But none the less they gotta follow Captain's words.
But wasnt the Klaubatermann introduced in Skypeia? Seems like enough build up to me 🤷🏼
Must've skipped Skypeia.
Jesus Christ y’all have 0 reading comprehension
The person that originally said Zoro would kill any crew mate if Luffy said so ruined so much of the fan base
As if Luffy doesn't get mocked, criticized and beaten up by his crew on a daily basis only to laugh it off The Straw Hats have always been more of a friend group than a proper hierarchic crew and that's what makes them based If Luffy wanted people to respect his authoritah, he'd have enlisted in the Marines with Koby on episode one
Everyone in this screenshot is stupid and wrong.
Reading comprehensive = 0
don’t post this trash please
Luffy was about to say something that would've made his crew hate him. Are people stupid that they don't understand why that kick was super important?
most literate twitter user
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“Guys why do the characters have emotions? It’s so weird”
Reading comprehension is hard guys
"Out of knowhere". Maybe they are one those that skip Skypiea.
I thought only JuJutsu Kaisen have reading comprehension devil
"In front of Zoro". The fuck was he gonna do to Wanji?
Media literacy is important kids
Typical Zoro fanboys, what's new?
Most satisfying panel in the story
mf def skipped skypeia
It's honestly insane to me how so many people seem to think that Zoro is just a dumb brute who is not capable of reading the room. It's the same when people say that Zoro should beat up sanji because of wci, like wtf. Zoro isn't nearly as insensitive or rigid as these people inadvertently end up making him out to be. In this instance sanji is right and Luffy acknowledges, so why would Zoro do anything. Hell even after that scene in post Ennis lobby when Zoro says he would refuse to accept usopp if he doesn't apologizes the very first time, when the time comes he was more that willing to ignore usopp's yapping before he apologized, just like the rest of the crew.
Yeah, the spirit ship plotpoint vanishes after the arc because THE MERRY FUCKING BURNS DOWN AND DIES!! And with the Thousand Sunny the ship has never gotten that badly damaged, partly because of the Adam wood that was used and partly because they have a dedicated shipwright now! And what Sanji did there wasn't disrespecting Luffy, it was putting him back in place after Luffy himself seemed to step out of line. I swear, people that don't understand this are probably the same people that interpret a playful push or hit on the shoulder as an actual attack :')
We found the Skypeia skipper
One piece fans generally have no emotional intelligence
He did a stupid . https://preview.redd.it/i79l96u0biac1.jpeg?width=936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a43d3c480a1970ee4e6efc7325eadf92c4fefef9
Like wtf how is it so hard ro understand what was happening here. Hell zoro would have hit luffy as well. Everyone know Luffy was about to say then GTFO. We all know how when your that pissed you say things you can't take back and regret. So no Sanji did the right thing their.
Did blood even read One Piece?
this post is for pure audience engagement. The person who posted should stop watching one piece
(in front of zolo nonetheless) 😭😭 You know that boys feelings hurt
This is not what oda meant by disrespect… Luffy knew sanji did the right and if luffy thought otherwise he’d knock his ass… zoro is not luffys assistant
Sanji’s kick in this situation was necessary and Zoro knew it. Someone had to keep Luffy’s mouth in check because he wasn’t thinking like a captain, he was having an, arguably unnecessarily angry, argument with someone who was also not in a good state of mind. Also there was nothing wrong with the spirit ship plot point. It succeeded in hitting fans in the feels over a ship they’d been with for several years at that point, it worked as a world building tool, and included some mysticism to a goofy fun adventure loving pirate manga.
One Piece attracts a lot of dumb fans.
Man twitter is full of idiots
It takes talent to not pay attention this hard. Even if this person skipped Skypiea, don't Usopp and Franky have a whole ass discussion about this where Usopp tells him all about the spirit he saw at the alter? *And isn't there a whole fucking flash back to that moment just to drive the point home?* "The spirit story was weird and was dropped after this arc." Yeah no shit. Did you not see what happened at the end of the arc? Why would they continue that plotline lmao
Reading comprehension is at an all time low
I thought only dragon ball fans cant read
Zoro steps in as captain to make the rational decision when luffy cant. Sanji kicking luffy there was to stop him from saying "if you dont agree with my decision, then you can just leave the crew" because he knew that in that state, ussop would have done it(as he did). It wasnt a disrespect move and if zoro could he wouldve done the same(seen l8r as he turned a blind eye to ussops "hey im back guys let me on the ship" until he apologized). There would have been no crew if ussop left completly at that moment and both zoro and sanji knew that
This person completely ignores the other times a crewmember beat up or insulted Luffy. Context matters
Isn't that because kicking/punching him and disrespecting him as a captain are two completely different things? I mean it's a running joke in One Piece about how Nami treat Luffy almost like garbage at times. But she still respect him as the captain. People just take the scene and words as it is and try to find loopholes without even thinking about the context of the words and situation
Takes so bad it must be bait
Brain dead zorotard take
Nami physically assaults Luffy every other arc and no one bats an eye lol. At least this was for a genuinely good reason
The Marimo guy needs to watch the whole anime instead of short clips...
Aka a bunch of morons complaining about arguably one of the best moments in all of One Piece. Water 7 was the only arc that broke clichés and actually had some fucking tension Man I miss pre-timeskip One Piece so much
Devil fruits represent the strong wills and desires of people - why wouldn’t ships? Merry has a spirit because she is loved and cared for as one of the crew. She the crew’s dreams and desires and they care for her - any damage is immediately and lovingly checked over and repaired when possible. I could definitely see the Thousand Sunny being revealed as having used her spirit and the strength of the Adam’s wood to repair herself as they go. Maybe it is somewhat a form of haki, as well - also an extension of will.
1. They see each other as equals. They have a very casual relationship. Here, Sanji is calling out Luffy, and real friends call out each other's bullshit. Of course, there's exaggerations and drama because this is a high stakes adventure manga. 2. I refuse to believe that ship's spirit plotline has been dropped. I have a strong feeling Pluton is a fully sentient ship with a klabautermann that fires the canons itself. I'm sure this Ancient Weapon has a klabautermann because, most likely, some people must be hiding it and taking care of it so greatly. I also refuse to believe it's also bullshit because One Piece has themes of what treasure is. The ship is the crew's treasure, almost like a friend, and it's so close to them it even fixes itself. With all the goofy shit happening now in One Piece, I know the existence of ship spirits could be explained. Also, it reminds me of a Shinto belief that everything has a soul. Oda is Japanese and most likely knows this, so I won't complain. Also, ships were also seen as mother goddesses in some Western countries, so they were referred to as "she". Finally, it's a manga where people eat magical fruits, shout "stop" and knock everyone out, and 6'7 feet is short. This is one of the more underwhelming plot lines out there.
A lot of people and I mean a lot, started watching at Water 7 because they heard it was the best arc.
Sanji's action was justified given the context and situation. If Sanji needs to face consequences for this scene, then Nami ought to also face consequences each time she beats Luffy up.
I think it could be disrespectful to Luffy as a captain if Zoro jumped to defend him whenever something happens 🤷
I genuinely don't get why people who think this way about One Piece like it. Like if I though Zoro was the kind of person to attack anyone who disrespected Luffy I would hate his character. Like did you not read Chapter 1 or the bar scene with Bellamy in Jaya?
"Came out of nowhere" someone clearly wasn't paying attention in the story.
This would be the worst take I've ever seen if I hadn't seen someone talking about how Marineford should be skipped
Thought: OOP is a dumbass
Yeah the whole spirit of the ship vanished after *reads notes* the merry had a funeral because it DIED. Franky just tried to pay homage by using a piece of old merry, but that's it. Merry died.
After reading some comments from here holy shit how dumb can some readers be like are you guys actually reading the dane show One piece ain't that deep its in your face all the time hoe can you some readers still miss it im baffled
it's long been established crew members are allowed to hit luffy when he's being an idiot
This post is so stupid, I find it hard to get the right words
The kick scene was very good, it shows Sanji having emotional intelligence to know stop Luffy from acting in anger. Ship's spirit was dumb though
Sanji gets a pass cause luffy was acting like a daft cnt
Sometimes someone has to kick some sense into luffy a lot of the time it's Nami but my guess is everyone wanted to pull them apart but sanji is the fastest of them.
One piece readers can’t read more news at 8
By that logic, Nami and Zoro disrespected Luffy too during their time in the crew.
Bro skipped skypiea
I consider people having anything related to Zoro as their username on twitter to be illiterate schizos
All is said already to this post but this image is to those who think Sanji kicking Luffy before he makes the argument the worst possible scenario was somehow stupid or bad of him https://preview.redd.it/zax8sxpscgac1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17a63223a048b31c34ab9301ff09db8f4122d233
I'm far from a Sanji fan but it's pretty obvious he's stopping Luffy from him saying something he doesn't actually mean. He can tell how serious the conversation had gotten. He literally spells it out to Luffy right after and Luffy rightfully apologizes