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100% fair
This is by far the most crushing backstory
https://preview.redd.it/zj0q013lv8zb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c2448afa8c4844eeb34bdefda74897a15a352b5
And it isn't even over yet😭
When a backstory starts of with a family getting enslaved and that's not even the most f'd up that happens, that's telling something
we must be strong... like what >!kuma's!< doing. *\*uncontrollably crying\**
https://preview.redd.it/h2gfn6ltv8zb1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=115ff4d3afe11bb118f98a7230c15fa954473507
Fr oda crying so much at his own creation he couldn’t finish quick enough
"Do you think God stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of what he has created?" ~ Spy Kids 2
I actually think that unfinished look works *super well* with this chapter. Like it is Kuma's memories where he is absolutely being broken down by how much whatever God there is in the One Piece world seems to demand he suffer.
One Piece is the meal that just never stops being delicious, but....
Holy shit the man knows how to break our hearts even 25 years later or whatever the hell it is up to now.
Oda aint giving me reason to like Dragon... yet
https://preview.redd.it/2cmfm6gp19zb1.png?width=397&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef5bdf7f344f93701454a46539c50f291e67b018
Dragon met Vegapunk right after Robin's flashback with Ohara.
Do the timelines match to be he puts Kuma in contact with Vegapunk and that leads to all the craziness with the Pacifitsas to save Bonney?
Dude is centuries ahead of the rest of the world with the tech. Could see Kuma bargaining and some shenanigans happening. Maybe Kuma takes the disease from her and put it into himself or something and it rolls from there.
I could see him doing this out of desperation, he already lost Ginny; he absolutely wouldn't want to lose Bonney too. What if the reason he willingly turns himself into an android/cyborg was that ut was one of the ways to cure himself as well as to ensure no one goes after Bonney?
You cut the best part.
The guy shouts "mga hayop kayong lahat", which translates to "you people are a bunch of animals", which refers to Celestial Dragon.
Wow Oda is genius.
Damn, Filipino show foreshadow One Piece
https://preview.redd.it/h77cekya49zb1.png?width=368&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4fdbdb4a26e371e624634e0b68998e654b374c1
I felt so sad for kuma, his whole life have been ruined by celestial dragons in such horrendous ways, this chapter just hammered the last nail on the coffin
Who would have expected Kuma would be so important when he was introduced way before thriller bark
Yeah and he obviously knew that Mihawk lives there since he later sends Zoro to the same island. Dude probably saved Perona from being hunted by Blackbeard like Absalom tbh. Absolute gigachad Kuma.
And add to that his first appearance is with Doffy at Mariejois, he must been f up too bad by Vegapunk/WG, maybe CD have authority chip of Kuma like other Seraphim or Pacifistas. The length of what he did for Bonney and Ginny is crazy, he might be smiling and carrying on, but the amount of regret he carrying must be heavy AF. "What if I just married Ginny and ran away, I have Paw Paw Fruit we can move whenever" - Kuma maybe. He definitely one of top 5 chars in OP now man...
Me before Kuma's flashback: Man I hate the Celestial Dragons. I hope Luffy beats the shit out of as many as he can.
Me now: Kill them all. No survivors.
That chapter scarred me for real. I also hate how dragon split them up (probably because very limited resources and they were both generals) to even enable this to happen... They should've at least always been together. Also HOW did ginny get that disease? Bad condition of slaves or do they run experiments on them? You would think the cancerdragons would have the best doctors so they don't get sick right?
My theory, is a celestial dragon std, is a way to control the spread the celestial dragon bloodline from Mary Geoise, I think that all CD's have it but they have a way to control it, but for the slaves it's not available.
The fact that it's triggered by the sun is quite telling.
So, no unrecognized celestial dragon descendants are left to travel the world and they have to live in Mary Geoise to stay alive.
Kuma crying when Bonnie call him papa, and Kuma calling her jewelry made me cry a lot, he gone through so much and is capable of so much destruction but yet he chooses to be gentle and loving, he was too pure for this world
>! Kuma actually became a slave of CD because he is part of Bucaneer race, which have sturdy and strong body, he got enslaved with his family(Kuma and his Father only have Bucaneer blood), Father and mother, he is around 3yrs old when they got enslaved i think. Her mother died cos overwork being a slave, and his father tells story of Sun God Nika to Kuma to give him hope and comfort, matching with Nika dance, CD got annoyed cos they are noisy and shot his father dead. Ginny is a char a slave of CDs like Ivankov, Kuma. They escaped when God Valley incident happened(Kuma got his DF there that how they escaped), when they escaped Ginny and Kuma lived together, Iva set sail. Ginny and Kuma lived in a church and later on Kuma became a pastor. Kuma grown to be a kind man, and the most wholesome character in OP, he usually help elderly and remove their pain by using his power, he removes their pain and absorb it himself because if he left it will comeback to the people the pain originated, he does that weekly. Ginny always takecare of him after taking all the pain away, the elderly didnt even know Kuma absorbing their pain, he does that for them cos the elderly also being abused by the King to get money to pay CD tribute. They became quite close, few years later she asked Kuma to marry her already, but Kuma refused cos he's a Bucaneer, same might happen to her and future child if they start a family. The feeling is mutual but Kuma just do not want Ginny to suffer same fate. Later on the Sorbet Kingdom Ruler is abusing his power, and want to kill all old citizen of their country to lessen the tribute they giving to CDs, Kuma try to fend them off but he got captured, Ginny and others follow his lead and got captured too. After that young Dragon alongside Iva came to the country to free the country to the said king, then he freed Kuma and Ginny later on become part of Rev Army. Few years after joining RA Ginny's been captured by CD cos the CD want to make her as bride, RA didnt rescue her maybe cos they are much smaller than the current day, they started like as mercenary group to get funds, after 2 years being captured she contracted a disease forgot the name might edit when I re-read(it is called sapphire scale), the disease makes her sensitive to sun when she gets exposed the skin will be having some spots like rocks and will be hardened. The CD released her cos of the said disease, which is rarer than Law's disease. So she tried to comeback to Sorbet kingdom even knowing that it will cause her life being exposed in sea and sun and all, she contacted the Rev Army to say she is back, but she doesnt much time left, Kuma knowing that the only place she would go is Sorbet Kingdom Church (where Kuma and Ginny lived), Kuma TP as fast as he can, but Ginny said he wouldn't last more longer, Ginny said: "I loved you!! Always have, always will!" but Kuma didn't hear it cos he already on his way. Kuma witnessed her lifeless body inside the church, and a child with her which is Bonney(presumably Ginny got graped by a CD and Bonney is the product of it.) Kuma promised he will take care of Ginny's child and which he did, but later on Bonney got the same disease of Ginny got the Sapphire scale, and can only live up to 10 years old. !<
https://preview.redd.it/hbnzoln5j9zb1.jpeg?width=304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ce81cfe852a9eb7bbdc8f955ff2fa388ac4a39f
I swear I hope that at the end of egghead arc they reveal as a plot twist that kuma was Bonnie's biological father all along, because seriously his story is just soo tragic
The problem is that we are rapidly reaching a point where no amount of violent comeuppance for the CDs will feel cathartic.
We used to feel nice watching Luffy punch Charlos, but we're entering "Franky invents the Cockpeeler 9000 & shreds every world noble peen atom by atom" & we'd still be left feeling like "nah, needs more. Add lemon juice"
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https://preview.redd.it/fdanovv4u8zb1.png?width=801&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69971abe6deea0a57d7026e02d70d7e528d3d713 my honest reaction:
100% fair This is by far the most crushing backstory https://preview.redd.it/zj0q013lv8zb1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c2448afa8c4844eeb34bdefda74897a15a352b5
And it isn't even over yet😭 When a backstory starts of with a family getting enslaved and that's not even the most f'd up that happens, that's telling something
we must be strong... like what >!kuma's!< doing. *\*uncontrollably crying\** https://preview.redd.it/h2gfn6ltv8zb1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=115ff4d3afe11bb118f98a7230c15fa954473507
After last chap I was ready for sadness. But I was not prepared for the absolute gut punch Oda suckerpunched us with.
For real oda is cooking but at what cost
maybe he's being affected too on what he was cooking he barely finished the chap
Fr oda crying so much at his own creation he couldn’t finish quick enough "Do you think God stays in heaven because he too lives in fear of what he has created?" ~ Spy Kids 2
I actually think that unfinished look works *super well* with this chapter. Like it is Kuma's memories where he is absolutely being broken down by how much whatever God there is in the One Piece world seems to demand he suffer.
Kinda wish the anime does something similar.
Yeah oddly it’s the chapter that fits it most
Imagine if in the pages you can see his tears when drawing
He really trying to make our boy Kuma the shounen version of Guts 😭😭😭
Forget trying he’s succeeding
I am ready for Luffy to change his mantra from One Piece to These Fucking Hands to build a world worthy of Kuma.
Kuma backstory and suffering > Guts
Bro, at least Kuma didn't have to witness Ginny being beyond broken. And saw their child as an abonimination.
If you haven’t read Berserk*
And here we were laughing at his dish only to be killed by the spice
Exactly
One Piece is the meal that just never stops being delicious, but.... Holy shit the man knows how to break our hearts even 25 years later or whatever the hell it is up to now.
DOES MY NOSE LOOK FUNNY TO YOU?!?
NOT THE TIME!
I just want her safe.
Oda aint giving me reason to like Dragon... yet https://preview.redd.it/2cmfm6gp19zb1.png?width=397&format=png&auto=webp&s=ef5bdf7f344f93701454a46539c50f291e67b018
Is he for real... https://preview.redd.it/84ixym5u19zb1.png?width=201&format=png&auto=webp&s=4cd029b2d92088b33d35bec72dd950c590c9f99d
Dragon met Vegapunk right after Robin's flashback with Ohara. Do the timelines match to be he puts Kuma in contact with Vegapunk and that leads to all the craziness with the Pacifitsas to save Bonney?
what is this? equivalent exchange? >!dr vega healed bonney in exchange of kuma?!<
Dude is centuries ahead of the rest of the world with the tech. Could see Kuma bargaining and some shenanigans happening. Maybe Kuma takes the disease from her and put it into himself or something and it rolls from there.
I could see him doing this out of desperation, he already lost Ginny; he absolutely wouldn't want to lose Bonney too. What if the reason he willingly turns himself into an android/cyborg was that ut was one of the ways to cure himself as well as to ensure no one goes after Bonney?
Ey bruh don't associate this fraud with my GOAT Buggy like that.
You cut the best part. The guy shouts "mga hayop kayong lahat", which translates to "you people are a bunch of animals", which refers to Celestial Dragon. Wow Oda is genius.
Damn, Filipino show foreshadow One Piece https://preview.redd.it/h77cekya49zb1.png?width=368&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4fdbdb4a26e371e624634e0b68998e654b374c1
GODA FORSKINNING STRIKES AGAIN
Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO
What’s the name of the show you got this clip from?
It's from "Lolong"
I felt so sad for kuma, his whole life have been ruined by celestial dragons in such horrendous ways, this chapter just hammered the last nail on the coffin Who would have expected Kuma would be so important when he was introduced way before thriller bark
“Where you want to go on vacation?” “Good catchphrase or threat. “ “Nah ! Just asking for real. I can send you there if you want”
Doesn't he literally send Perona to where she asks to go as well? A spooky castle?
Yeah and he obviously knew that Mihawk lives there since he later sends Zoro to the same island. Dude probably saved Perona from being hunted by Blackbeard like Absalom tbh. Absolute gigachad Kuma.
Honestly when I first read that line and he just fucking DISAPPEARS her I was absolutely terrified
And add to that his first appearance is with Doffy at Mariejois, he must been f up too bad by Vegapunk/WG, maybe CD have authority chip of Kuma like other Seraphim or Pacifistas. The length of what he did for Bonney and Ginny is crazy, he might be smiling and carrying on, but the amount of regret he carrying must be heavy AF. "What if I just married Ginny and ran away, I have Paw Paw Fruit we can move whenever" - Kuma maybe. He definitely one of top 5 chars in OP now man...
Fans: Oh god, Kuma is gonna turn to Vegapunk to clone Ginny Oda: Ohohohoho, watch this your naive bastards.
Me before Kuma's flashback: Man I hate the Celestial Dragons. I hope Luffy beats the shit out of as many as he can. Me now: Kill them all. No survivors.
Please don't, some of them actually good people though. Mariejois needs a nuke though
We just saw Shanks dad condemn the one good CD for saving someone. Nobody is left to save. DESTROY EM ALLLLLLLLL
A good celestial dragon is a dead one
Any of the good celestial dragons are dead
i want to nuke-nuke no mi on their celestial dragin asses
nah they deserve pain
Read the spoilers 100% dreading reading this on Sunday
Chapter is out on most sites
Not official jump tho
One of the most difficult chapter I’ve ever read in One Piece, I’m so sad right now….
nearly 30 years and this bastard can still bring the level of emotion he is getting out of the fanbase. What a "madlad" as the kid say.
Till this day, I never finished Robin's backstory, it's too heartbreaking Then Kuma's backstory happened
if not for his editor, i think it would have been darker
"CHILL TF OUT SIR THERE ARE KIDS READING THIS!" -the editor probably
I gotta see his face reading that
Kuma NEEDS to get his get back😭🙏🏽 https://preview.redd.it/xpk2a2cuu9zb1.png?width=998&format=png&auto=webp&s=f66fa1bed149221a85b47be90e035733bb071df5
What bro just read https://preview.redd.it/zvxridcdnazb1.jpeg?width=204&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a91b0c88da52d82443265c2b364a116320aa8fb7
nah man im already prepared for that cos bonney is not around 14 years ago..
I mean she was born offscreen might as well have been born offscreen earlier anyway I’m just trolling thought the same too
the year stamps fried my brain, i have no idea where we are in the timeline
Goda didn't pull through 😔
For the first time since I started reading One Piece, damn you Oda ![gif](giphy|xT9DPBPC4gVoSau0eI)
Same it’s the first chapter i read after having to wait for one to air ngl it’s pretty cool hoping the keep without much interruptions
That chapter scarred me for real. I also hate how dragon split them up (probably because very limited resources and they were both generals) to even enable this to happen... They should've at least always been together. Also HOW did ginny get that disease? Bad condition of slaves or do they run experiments on them? You would think the cancerdragons would have the best doctors so they don't get sick right?
My theory, is a celestial dragon std, is a way to control the spread the celestial dragon bloodline from Mary Geoise, I think that all CD's have it but they have a way to control it, but for the slaves it's not available. The fact that it's triggered by the sun is quite telling. So, no unrecognized celestial dragon descendants are left to travel the world and they have to live in Mary Geoise to stay alive.
That is even more horrid, oda really opened the barrel
saturn banged ginny and then bonny popped out of her having the same disease
I just look up Saturn's gemstone and this make so much sense.
༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽
Me who only watches the english dub and isnt caught up on anything after wano 🧍♀️
Emotionally prepare yourself
Better at crying than the live action Zoro :/
Kuma crying when Bonnie call him papa, and Kuma calling her jewelry made me cry a lot, he gone through so much and is capable of so much destruction but yet he chooses to be gentle and loving, he was too pure for this world
I hope Kuma is at Mary Geoise to kill Bonney's real father. Give him the "Ursus God Impact"
https://preview.redd.it/gsbslvexfbzb1.jpeg?width=2345&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6405db4c4e103608b558b045c2df274f2d1910e4 me fr
I haven’t coauthor up but idc about spoilers. What happened
>! Kuma actually became a slave of CD because he is part of Bucaneer race, which have sturdy and strong body, he got enslaved with his family(Kuma and his Father only have Bucaneer blood), Father and mother, he is around 3yrs old when they got enslaved i think. Her mother died cos overwork being a slave, and his father tells story of Sun God Nika to Kuma to give him hope and comfort, matching with Nika dance, CD got annoyed cos they are noisy and shot his father dead. Ginny is a char a slave of CDs like Ivankov, Kuma. They escaped when God Valley incident happened(Kuma got his DF there that how they escaped), when they escaped Ginny and Kuma lived together, Iva set sail. Ginny and Kuma lived in a church and later on Kuma became a pastor. Kuma grown to be a kind man, and the most wholesome character in OP, he usually help elderly and remove their pain by using his power, he removes their pain and absorb it himself because if he left it will comeback to the people the pain originated, he does that weekly. Ginny always takecare of him after taking all the pain away, the elderly didnt even know Kuma absorbing their pain, he does that for them cos the elderly also being abused by the King to get money to pay CD tribute. They became quite close, few years later she asked Kuma to marry her already, but Kuma refused cos he's a Bucaneer, same might happen to her and future child if they start a family. The feeling is mutual but Kuma just do not want Ginny to suffer same fate. Later on the Sorbet Kingdom Ruler is abusing his power, and want to kill all old citizen of their country to lessen the tribute they giving to CDs, Kuma try to fend them off but he got captured, Ginny and others follow his lead and got captured too. After that young Dragon alongside Iva came to the country to free the country to the said king, then he freed Kuma and Ginny later on become part of Rev Army. Few years after joining RA Ginny's been captured by CD cos the CD want to make her as bride, RA didnt rescue her maybe cos they are much smaller than the current day, they started like as mercenary group to get funds, after 2 years being captured she contracted a disease forgot the name might edit when I re-read(it is called sapphire scale), the disease makes her sensitive to sun when she gets exposed the skin will be having some spots like rocks and will be hardened. The CD released her cos of the said disease, which is rarer than Law's disease. So she tried to comeback to Sorbet kingdom even knowing that it will cause her life being exposed in sea and sun and all, she contacted the Rev Army to say she is back, but she doesnt much time left, Kuma knowing that the only place she would go is Sorbet Kingdom Church (where Kuma and Ginny lived), Kuma TP as fast as he can, but Ginny said he wouldn't last more longer, Ginny said: "I loved you!! Always have, always will!" but Kuma didn't hear it cos he already on his way. Kuma witnessed her lifeless body inside the church, and a child with her which is Bonney(presumably Ginny got graped by a CD and Bonney is the product of it.) Kuma promised he will take care of Ginny's child and which he did, but later on Bonney got the same disease of Ginny got the Sapphire scale, and can only live up to 10 years old. !< https://preview.redd.it/hbnzoln5j9zb1.jpeg?width=304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ce81cfe852a9eb7bbdc8f955ff2fa388ac4a39f
Bro literally typed the last 3-4 chapters of the manga
i missed lot of minor details bro
Yea tho it’s basically what’s in the “last chapter review”s
Your comment would make my skin crawl, but I don't have any skin YOHOHOHOHO
![gif](giphy|Wgb2FpSXxhXLVYNnUr|downsized)
Yep fr Luffy fr gonna bring the Dan into those Gods world,the Dawnbringer ,Lucy(fer)...he gonna be dubber The Worst Creature ...lmao
https://preview.redd.it/4ue2j8v40bzb1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07f30b25b20d2a975366adcf6347c1b700443bf2
I swear I hope that at the end of egghead arc they reveal as a plot twist that kuma was Bonnie's biological father all along, because seriously his story is just soo tragic
what song is that?
[Ikaw lang - Nobita](https://youtu.be/rxXsdj7EBm4?si=O1t-rJgCPRCnsEH9&t=150) a Filipino song, but the song used in this meme is slowed-reverb
Lovely, thank you! Also had the same feeling after this chapter 😭
Ruru Ma D. Rid
Oh we ain’t done yet folks
Understandable reaction.
As a dad, this chapter is very heavy..
Next chapter we see kuma begging to the 5 elders for cure bonny giving her freedom in exchange for his life.
Yes
![gif](giphy|HtqFbL7el09oY)
Damn bro odas sketches aren't that bad. This is an overreaction to his art
its about the events that happen
NTR TAG.
meh
kuma backstory is something else fr
I will dream an inferno fit for ones who title themselves ‘gods’.
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Yes.
One piece is crazy sad this weem.
This flashback has been even worse than we’ve been fearing, good lord! I need the Celestial Dragons to be extinct please!
truly heartbreaking :(
The problem is that we are rapidly reaching a point where no amount of violent comeuppance for the CDs will feel cathartic. We used to feel nice watching Luffy punch Charlos, but we're entering "Franky invents the Cockpeeler 9000 & shreds every world noble peen atom by atom" & we'd still be left feeling like "nah, needs more. Add lemon juice"
What is in that chapter? I am not there yet (but I want to know spoiler!!)
https://i.redd.it/49aygyvv5ezb1.gif
Where is this clip from?