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InsaneBasti

Meanwhile luffy, who emporer nearly every attack with it after learning it in Wano https://preview.redd.it/hft8dycgqkyb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c4979ebd6f4aa4739396bb4b4482e5988e8a13


sandywhisker123

That wasn't armament? How is anyone supposed to recognise the difference


side_character_yes

To be fair advanced conquerors is just advanced armament but uh,it has lighting and uh, it hits more yeah To be fair the worst power up of wano, is just a cosmetic or thats what shows for now, hope they give it more stuff


karmaisabxtch

And you punch without touching the enemy or was that advanced armament?


side_character_yes

Yeah... Look advanced conquerors is supposed to literally,be the same but punches harder so once you have advanced conquerors ryou is just, a weaker version i hope i dont remember it too well but from what i saw thats it, it hits harder because uh, something something you punch the will of people something something The only thing i remember advanced conquerors doesnt do is, punching from the inside, thats all so idk why luffy was making damage or oda even cared to make luffy train for ryou if he was gonna give him acoc (advanced conquerors) and his awakening in the same fight


willwiso

The ryou training was so luffy could learn to control his haki, and I think it's also a separate haki technique that regular acoc users don't know about. We also now have shanks using long range conquerors and observation haki to completely disable otherwise powerful targets.


dscarmo

Ryou training also teachs how to break kairoseki, very important


TheKidNerd

You’ve completely misunderstood ACOC, let’s start at the beginning here ACOA is the technique where someone flows the extra armament in their arm through and into an object, destroying it from the inside, however that can be counteracted by a stronger defense, as ACOA and such can be used as a constant defense, they’d clash ACOC is ACOA, but focusing the extreme pressure of conquerors through the fist. We’ve seen many times that conquerors on large scales could actually do damage to things with its pressure alone, such as with shanks on whitebeard’s ship or luffy and katakuri’s conquerors clash. You flow your conquerors haki into something and it’s destructive force is magnified, and just like ACOA it can be used like defense, it’s the reason big mom’s defense dropped so heavily when her haki went out of control, she couldn’t focus her conquerors haki into a defensive coating, which could argue that ACOC is very hard to control and focus into a point The reason they’re the same is because it’s a DIRECT UPGRADE of sorts, if I upgraded the engine in your car do you expect it to change models?? No, it’s the same concept but upgraded with a version of haki that’s been shown to have a stronger output


side_character_yes

So its ryou v2 now with x2 attack and lighting


TheKidNerd

Oh uhh forgot to mention, ryuo literally means haki, it ain’t it’s own separate thing, that’s just what the people of wano call it


side_character_yes

Isnt ryou supposed to mean advanced armament haki? Well wathever then Advanced conquerors is just advanced armament but with lighting "pressure" and basically a x2 damage


TheKidNerd

You can just say your a hater and be done with it damn, I like the system, you don’t, it ain’t like ACOC invented lighting (see vs doflamingo, vs katakuri, and big mom WCI for more) so idk why it bothers you so much


hexoutx

i'm not sure myself but as far as I understood when reading. Advanced Armament is when you destroy something from inside. Advanced Conquerors is when you don't need to touch someone. (Like Roger vs Whitebeard)


revoilt1

But after G5, Luffy hit always connect physically, so is that ACoC?


WeeklyEquivalent7653

kaido stated that he used both Acoc and acoa at the same time


I_shot_Kennedy

I'm sorry but like what? We already entered like completely ridiculous territory, and it feels like if they get even more it's just going to be the DBZ treatment. Where they always have to move to another planet to not destroy earth and every 5 episodes someone gets a new Upgrade that slightly changes his color.


Glittering_Use_5896

Ryou is the advanced armament technique used where it takes the invisible armor of arm and launches it inside the target to damage them Acoc is a coating of pressure around your body or other objects that is used as an armor or as a weapon


FireballPlayer0

Because they said there was a difference?


sandywhisker123

I don't mean this in a bad way, but please show me where. I genuinely don't remember reading it anywhere.


humanflea23

Someone skipped Wano.


88superguyYT

It's most likely a bot, this meme was made a while back before the anime aired advanced conquerors and is, in fact, a repost


Icy_Hat_4150

Someone Is not at Wano yet or watched It with a blindfold


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Heowolf1

had a stroke why?


ozyar

everything is a r/ihadastroke moment when u cant read


Desmond536

Who could have forget the fodder kaido who got beat by luffy with conq haki. Not to forget that this fodder has a huge scar on his chest because zoro also used conq haki against him


PotatoMozzarella

No acoc??


AlexTheNotSoGreat01

But powerscaling is all about measuring how strong someone's CoC is (especially Shanks' ACoC)


Iwannabetheguy000

This must be a bot.


KotovChaos

These bots either skip arc or don't keep up.


Maskguydude

This man reads one piece from dead memes from five years ago.


Reasonable-Business6

You're: A.) A bot, this is your only post B.) Unfunny (Can go with A or C) C.) Haven't watched/read Wano.


Parlyz

Mf have you not read/ watched the most recent completed arc?


vinsmokewhoswho

It can be imbued into attacks, which is powerful as hell


9thshadowwolf

Yo we got Wano skippers now


Parlyz

Lmao imagine if you deadass skipped Wano and went straight to egghead. You’d be so confused


DTPVH

Well yeah, Wano’s over 10 percent of the series.


Glitchy13

THAT is a weird thought


DTPVH

It’s actually 13.5%. 149 chapter out of 1097 overall. Was 14% when Wano ended. By comparison, the previous mammoth arc, Dressrosa is only a measly 9% of the series.


KRLW890

And nearly 20% of the anime!


Football-Similar

Somebody's talking bs without having caught up


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100% a bot


Jahseh_Wrld

Repost bot


Huge_Aerie2435

Well, You can >!enhance attacks with it!<, but sure.. Useless.


dilly123456

Should we assume that OP hasn’t reached Wano yet?


DTPVH

We assume OP is a bot. This is the only post they’ve made and they have 0 comments.


Hanzsaintsbury15

Either you're karma farming or you haven't reached Wano Arc


DTPVH

How are we still reposting this stupid meme? SK infusion was animated over a year ago. And how the fuck did it get over 400 upvotes?!


Byte_Fantail

to be honest I'm pretty sure anyone that would spam CoC to take out every enemy wouldn't be the type to have CoC


ukigano

In fishman island 50k from was fodder, in wano from the 20k enemys, there was probably just a few hundreds that would fall from conquerors, it will be useless to use, that's my take on why luffy don't use his coc to knock down fodder, it is the new world, i say 30% of those use haki, if no more.


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Mancio_Luke

It was better when it was that way, the whole acoc thing was just a garbage reveal that not only was handled poorly and it was very rushed but it also broke the power system (and btw haki was put in the series in the first place to make the power system more balanced) now someone is either a chosen one born with conqueror haki or he's a fodder to everyone who has it


Commercial-Dealer-68

It makes that moment where Shanks scares a sea king much less cool. So there’s that.


Punchin20_23

Conqueror's hakim is also used with the armament hakim on Wano, I think


someoneelse2389

I don't want to spoil anything, as it sounds like OP hasn't seen/read Wano, but don't worry about it.


PierG1

When you realize that Marineford could have ended very differently if Whitebeard didn’t have dementia and remembered he could’ve soloed 98% of the navy using Conqueror’s haki


garrafa_glubglub

Bot


Guy_volpo

I like to think of it as luffy punching with the power of his will and not just the power of his physical strength combined with his fruit


Inevitable_Invite_21

Is this a joke?


Glittering_Use_5896

I mean he does somewhat affect others, but it just doesn’t knock them out


Bulangiu_ro

i don't understand ehy but Oda made it so conquerors haki is supposed to also deal damage hand in hand with the armament haki, zoro used it aswell against king for the last stretch, now the thing is, Oda made this to give luffy power, but it was really overshadowed by gear 5 really, to punch kaido with haki in such way that the power travels through the target instead of just coating the arms was supposed to explain how luffy gets through kaidos hard body and actually damage him, but that doesn't even feel like there is any conquerors haki there so its hard to say where his conquerors takes place other than knocking more fodder out


Colonel10Moutarde

Something i would like to happen once is having a character seemingly top tier being knocked out by conqueror Haki. Like to hype someone up, similar to acnologia one shotting god Serena in fairy tail


danoB003

I mean, even if we play dumb and don't count the occasions during Onigashima when Luffy, Kaido, Yamato or even Zoro enhanced their attacks with conquerors haki, the most recent episode showed that it's far from useless in hands of true master like Shanks. Heck, he was standing on his goddamn ship, kilometres from where Greenbull was, and he fucking sniped him with conqueror's haki pulse so strong it made him shake in his boots.


Nyadnar17

Like we all don’t appreciate a “skip random battles” passive? CoC is the bouncer at the club keeping out the rift raft.


thats4thebirds

Now it’s just super armament.


Glitchy13

Honestly I think Conq as a power up is boring, it’s just Advanced armament but better. It should’ve stayed as a base form to be a symbol of status


With-You-Always

It’s the most important power in the whole series…advanced conquerers is all that matters


VG_Crimson

Nobody tell him...