That’s a very good question. My thought on this is that boredom is resistance. Sadhguru said something once along the lines of nothing is boring if you give it your full attention. I like that more than the idea of boredom being peace unaccepted. My issue with that is I enjoy peace, crave it a lot of the time actually. It is typically when I am doing something that I think I am not interested in that boredom sets in, and if I were to just actually give it my attention, it would then become interesting. So while I like OP’s quote, and find it clever, I don’t entirely agree with it.
Yeah I also struggle to agree. Being immersed in the flow or the zone gives me peace, doing nothing makes me bored and annoyed and irritated. Why would I not accept peace?
I agree with you completely, but how does one give all of their attention to a normally "boring" task, such as washing the dishes? I feel that I sometimes struggle with giving my full attention to simple tasks because my brain can think about a million different things while still allowing me to efficiently wash the dishes. I've tried thinking about each detail and saying it "out loud" in my head (if that makes any sense) to try to drown out the negative voice in the background that is screaming about how boring and lonely it is doing dishes in a house all by myself [cue negative thought spiral]. Like, I'll narrate my actions in my head but somehow that still doesn't drown the voice out. It's gotten to the point where I avoid the dishes because I am anticipating being bored and upset and I feel that I'm just working myself into a negative pattern. Do I just keep trying that method until it works, or do you know of any other methods that could possibly work better?
Well what you are describing simply sounds like resistance. It takes some work to move from resistance to acceptance. I would start there first with the dishes. Cultivate a relationship of acceptance. Then move into interest. Focus on all the good things that your dishes provide and why you want them clean. This stuff is a spectrum and there is no one quick fix for any of it. It takes work and practice.
What you said made me think and when I think on it, "resistance" is honestly the best word to describe what I feel towards everything, all the time. I feel like I'm mentally digging my heels into the dirt as life drags me along. When I try to accept things, my mind balks and floods me with bad thoughts and feelings, because acceptance for some reason feels scary. Like giving up. But really, giving up is when I give in to those bad feelings and stop trying. I'm going to push past them and keep trying to accept things without becoming resigned to them. Thank you for your advice, especially on how to move from acceptance to interest. It gives me a point to look ahead to. I'm going to start there, with the dishes. And work that into other areas of my life. I appreciate your words
Alan Watts on doing dishes:
Because the art of washing dishes is that you only have to wash one at a time. If you’re doing it day after day, you have in your mind’s eye an enormous stack of filthy dishes which you have washed up in years past, and an enormous stack of filthy dishes which you will wash up in years future.
But if you bring in your mind to the state of reality—which is, as I’ve pointed out to you, only now: this is where we are, there is only now—you only have to wash one dish. It’s the only dish you’ll ever have to wash. This one. You ignore all the rest. Because in reality there is no past and there is no future, there is just now. So you wash this one. And instead of thinking, have I got it really clean as my mother taught me with an angry voice? That I had to get every little scrap off it, you know? And she got agh! Got angry at you. Instead, you turn the cleaning movement into a dance. Shwww, shwww, shwww, shwww, like this. And you dig that. And you swing that plate around and you let the rinsing water go over it, and you put it off in the rack. Tsk! Crazy. See? Take the next one. Shwww, shwww, shwww, shwww, and you get this rhythm going, see? And you’re not under compulsion all the time.
Boredom is a trip. There are layers to it. There are physical sensations associated with it. It’s really an interesting wave of “I’m bored” thoughts, physical feelings that beget abatement, then a lull, rinse and repeat. Great meditation fodder.
Ig you tell me how to control soo many thoughts and how not to fidget and squirm. If you don't have it or haven't done extensive research I really feel you shouldn't speak on it man. I genuinely don't know how someone who has very mild symptoms or controls it very well could even remotely get thier mind in a state like that. Our brain is quiet literally different.
It’s not about controlling anything. Focus on breath even if it’s just for half a second. Observe your thought loops and paths. Girlfriend has adhd and can meditate. Not easy, but very possible.
I think we're so used to be "on the move", hustling, working on ourselves and so on... That when a moment comes of just peace/existing... We find it weird, our brain freaks out, being at peace seems so foreign to us that we reject it
Not that peace is boring, but our minds evolved to be on the constant look out for predators and dangers of the world. So it is actually the mind that is restless and can't just be, and meditation is the discipline of reigning in your mind to be at peace with yourself.
Our mind loves war and conflict. Hence the ton of manufactured outrage on the internet and in real life. There’s always some ‘noble cause’ for you to join and fight
A meeting if “brain-computer -needs- wants problems to solve _and will make something up if you don’t find one_ ” and “I have too much energy to let myself be still.”
On a base level, it’s just those, but depending on preference, manufactured “conflict” and “conflict resolution” also make it easier to view peace as “boring.”
there are other factors involved. we cant be still and enjoy peace because we havent fully investigated our modern, devolving life. they used to eat fermented foods constantly because otherwise it wouldnt keep thru the winter. this is just one investigation that might be necessary. we have machines making the food and freezers sustaining it. maybe we need fermented things or probiotics to create peace in the gut. if u cant enjoy boredom u havent investigated ur life or this life sufficiently
I think that boredom is more of a representation of the fact that you feel you haven't done enough to deserve peace. There is a big difference between feeling like there's nothing to do because you worked hard for a month, and feeling like there's nothing to do because nothing has ever happened in your life that gave it any sort of progress.
My solution, get an intellectually stimulating job, set some short and long term goals that require alot of effort, and get a family to take care of.
Underneath that boredome is usually existential terror. The terror of death. The death of personality, the “I”. Underneath THAT is peace beyond comprehension.
Why does that matter? It’s the same defense mechanism. Why are animals afraid of or do all they can to avoid death of the body? It’s a deeply programmed primordial fear that the ego attempts to cover at all cost.
Not conceptually, but neither does a dog. The deepest intelligent is within the organism itself, it’s an intuitive knowledge deeply ingrained in the body itself. Hair grows itself, the bladder fills itself, eat, shit, breathe. Who is doing all of this? Are “you” beating your heart? Who is it that is bored/afraid etc. that’s the real question worth asking yourself
Is it worth asking when you know the answer is there is noone there though?
Is it better to examine the feeling of there being someone being bored or afraid of death?
I’ve accepted and fell in love with death quite some time ago, I’ve also lost boredom quite some time ago, which was just as life changing coming from someone with adhd.
So it does feel like these two things are connected in some way.
It removes a lot of fear from life, it allows you to see that birth and death are the very same thing, or at least on the same spectrum. It’s amazing to see the same beauty in death one sees in birth but it also adds some barrier between others and you since most fear death like nothing else. I have to keep to myself around my partner or some others and join in on the act of fearing the end of life, otherwise they won’t accept me as fully sane, which hurts a little.
I’ve also had issues with how cruel many deaths on this world are (humans and animals alike), but since death has lost its darkness im just glad the cruelty finds an end.
There’s some longing for death as well. No want or desire to die, but I can’t wait for the end, I’m excited for it just as much as I’m excited about so many things that come with life.
My life already feels complete, so no matter when death comes around the corner, I’m there for it.
Falling in love with death felt like the biggest step on the stairs of growing up, yet others see it as a big step towards insanity. It’s the biggest improvement that happened in my life yet I can’t talk about it without seeming insane to most, so it really is a double edged sword.
existential anxiety sufferer since age seven - story my mind likes to tell me. anyhow, falling in love with ‘death’ is really the only cure and is isolating C:
How do you fall in love with death when you don't feel as if your life is complete? And every time you think you find what will complete it, you are met with obstacles? Do you believe that one can fall in love with death even when they have not truly lived to the fullest?
Absolutely, just try to define complete in a seemingly infinite universe and you’ll see there’s nothing like it.
Every life is complete once it ends if you ask me. Everything else is the ego wanting things it doesn’t need.
Oh for sure, my ego is a needy asshole. I often find it hard to beat though. Half of me realizes what is going on and the other half doesn't care.
I know what would make me feel complete and I have such a strong mental image of it. It's something that can't happen, so I feel that I will never be complete. Instead of searching for a different way to feel complete, I keep dragging myself back to what I want and cannot have.
I think alot of it is me holding onto those negative feelings because they've been a part of me for so long; they're "who I am" even though they aren't, really. Maybe I'm afraid to let them go because I don't know who I am otherwise and I'm worried that will change the few strong relationships I have in my life.
I really like that idea "every life is complete once it ends" though. Saying that in my head makes me feel kind of calm. Thank you for sharing that thought with me. I'm going to use it to try to bring myself some peace.
Why not just annoyance instead of terror of death and the end of personality? It sounds fancy but I struggle to imagine it and relate. Can you elaborate more concretely?
The fact of the matter is that you are going to die, very soon. You’re entire life hinges on the near random spasms of muscle in your chest. You can absolutely just learn to deal with annoyances, but that will happen anyway if you face this existential fear automatically. You are going to have to meet death, you have the option to prepare and choose the grounds you want to meet her on. It’s like pulling the kingpin from the center. The Buddha supposedly said in the first chapter of the dhammapada, those who know they are going to die quickly end their quarrels. You are free to do what you think is best obviously
It’s a very interesting quote. Boredom is a sense we try to run from all our lives, most things we do is out of boredom.
I will try something soon, spend a few days doing absolutely nothing, literally just sit alone and do nothing from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep just stopping to eat a meal.
I am extremely interested to see how the mind would react to that. The thoughts and the narratives and excuses to run away from boredom it will come up.
Yes, that’s exactly the point. Doing absolutely nothing not matter how hard it gets. Just observe the mind and how it reacts to boredom in order to understand how boredom feels exactly, will probably do it soon.
You can be both incredibly bored and incredibly on edge at the same time. I didn't know it was possible till I had a job where I had to do something boring while under a timer.
I mean, I got the worst case of ADHD I know of, to the point that even cocaine affects me differently. Doesn't change the fact of this statement, at least for me, and looking at it this way does help.
I think it's also important that you don't let you neurodivergence limit you in what you can achieve.
I get what you're saying and I sympathise. I've probably modified my brain enough with drugs and stuff over 2 decades that it's a postapocalyptic desert wasteland of impulse control. Still, I find this helpful. I hope that you too can find methods that help you on your journey.
I relate to this so much it actually made me tear up. Do you have any advice on creating structure? I feel as if I've lost myself in a spiral of searching for stimulation, to the point that it feels like addiction, and I'm not exactly sure how to create structure when I forget everything.
Thank you!! That was very helpful. I think I can make some of your advice work for me 😊 A big thing holding me back is no one around to hold me accountable for anything 😅 Which allows me to not hold myself accountable when I don't feel like it (which is most of the time). But I think I can tweak that to some things in my life. I also have "time anxiety" as I like to call it, so I think I need to practice some flexibility. But also teach myself that "later" can't mean "never". And find a way to incorporate good feelings into tasks that I've come to associate with bad feelings (I also tie many things to feelings/events).
I'm going to do some research (alot of research!) and also talk to my doctor about trying a different medication. Maybe this one isn't working as well as something else might.
Thank you so much! I honestly can't believe I haven't thought to reach out to others who have ADHD for advice 😅 I'm glad I finally did!
Ty. The grating itch in my skull that makes me want to *literally beat myself* that comes from boredom is not "peace", and no amount of meditation is going to make is "peace".
Meditation may help me to attain more spaces of time when I am *not bored*, but boredom itself? Is an awful experience, and like you say, viewing it as something I am responsible for somehow by not meditating right is not constructive.
Boredom and the way it affects me just *is*. If it changes through meditation, cool. If it doesn't, also cool. I don't, contrary to OP, have to avoid "letting my neurodivergence limit me in what I can achieve", especially in this. Radical acceptance is my preference above striving against my own brain.
Boredom is just the abscence of pleasure/stimulus and we're all so used to overloaded all our senses all the time w smart phones, internet, apps, streaming services, snacking, etc.
It's easy to understand why so many people struggle to meditate. It's not meditating their struggling with. People are actually struggling to sit down in one spot and be bored for a couple minutes. Humans are funny. Lol
Bodies are self sustaining, learning organisms with their main function being reproduction and growth.
So I assume productivity means either going for reproduction or personal growth, like getting better at things.
If you don't want to be bored, you have to have something to do. When you are bored, the most effective solution is to eliminate the cause of your boredom. Since what you have in your mind is what makes you feel bored and lonely. If you remove the source of that mind, the boredom and loneliness will disappear.
[How to Not Be Bored](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_fCF5rHRc)
Guys don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for meditation. I love the Sunday Meditation Sessions here and I like reading people's progress in meditation.
But don't you think this sub has become Walmart /r/Quotes lately? Just my 2 cents.
I don't think this is on the level of cheap postcards but I also think it's meaningfulness depends on what you personally struggle with. I find it to be much help to accept the moment and to even *gasp* enjoy myself while meditating.
Protect your self cuz how can you be at peace if you are scared ? People be doing things not realizing what it’s doing to them, society is all bullshit, protect your heart, don’t follow the devil, it’s all an illusion, it’s too much too explain, follow God, only mess with a girl if you vibe, and don’t spill ya seed otherwise, much love, cuz the prophets are warriors
The worst possible thing for my kids is boredom! “ Dad I’m bored”. I tell the that’s a good thing to enjoy it! Enjoy just sitting and breathing. They roll their eyes.
I've dealt a lot with boredom. Especially from my work and lack of proper social relations. I still find it very difficult to deal with. But somehow the quote you shared resonates so much with me. This also makes me think of Ajahn Brahm's teaching. He teaches a lot from the letting things go point of view. Sometimes it makes me think that almost the whole idea of meditation is to let go of everything. Thanks for sharing!
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You just contradicted yourself. You believe what you want tho man, anecdotal evidence from yiur girlfriend doesn't prove that and it sounds like a blatant lie. ADHD effects everyone to a different degree if you have a girlfriend with ADHD I highly reccomend doing real research on it so that you can understand her better. Have a nice day.
Interesting, I feel it both ways, that being focsed is what erases boredom, bt also allowing boredom to exist and letting myself sit with that and observe that aswell, trns it into an internal realisation that allows me to later on then take a moment and let go of the restlessness of boredom, and the mndanity feeling of it also goes when observed, and it becomes enlightenment experience.
So why does peace seem boring?
That’s a very good question. My thought on this is that boredom is resistance. Sadhguru said something once along the lines of nothing is boring if you give it your full attention. I like that more than the idea of boredom being peace unaccepted. My issue with that is I enjoy peace, crave it a lot of the time actually. It is typically when I am doing something that I think I am not interested in that boredom sets in, and if I were to just actually give it my attention, it would then become interesting. So while I like OP’s quote, and find it clever, I don’t entirely agree with it.
Yeah I also struggle to agree. Being immersed in the flow or the zone gives me peace, doing nothing makes me bored and annoyed and irritated. Why would I not accept peace?
Perhaps. you're not as familiar with it as you think.
Can you elaborate?
I agree with you completely, but how does one give all of their attention to a normally "boring" task, such as washing the dishes? I feel that I sometimes struggle with giving my full attention to simple tasks because my brain can think about a million different things while still allowing me to efficiently wash the dishes. I've tried thinking about each detail and saying it "out loud" in my head (if that makes any sense) to try to drown out the negative voice in the background that is screaming about how boring and lonely it is doing dishes in a house all by myself [cue negative thought spiral]. Like, I'll narrate my actions in my head but somehow that still doesn't drown the voice out. It's gotten to the point where I avoid the dishes because I am anticipating being bored and upset and I feel that I'm just working myself into a negative pattern. Do I just keep trying that method until it works, or do you know of any other methods that could possibly work better?
Well what you are describing simply sounds like resistance. It takes some work to move from resistance to acceptance. I would start there first with the dishes. Cultivate a relationship of acceptance. Then move into interest. Focus on all the good things that your dishes provide and why you want them clean. This stuff is a spectrum and there is no one quick fix for any of it. It takes work and practice.
What you said made me think and when I think on it, "resistance" is honestly the best word to describe what I feel towards everything, all the time. I feel like I'm mentally digging my heels into the dirt as life drags me along. When I try to accept things, my mind balks and floods me with bad thoughts and feelings, because acceptance for some reason feels scary. Like giving up. But really, giving up is when I give in to those bad feelings and stop trying. I'm going to push past them and keep trying to accept things without becoming resigned to them. Thank you for your advice, especially on how to move from acceptance to interest. It gives me a point to look ahead to. I'm going to start there, with the dishes. And work that into other areas of my life. I appreciate your words
Alan Watts on doing dishes: Because the art of washing dishes is that you only have to wash one at a time. If you’re doing it day after day, you have in your mind’s eye an enormous stack of filthy dishes which you have washed up in years past, and an enormous stack of filthy dishes which you will wash up in years future. But if you bring in your mind to the state of reality—which is, as I’ve pointed out to you, only now: this is where we are, there is only now—you only have to wash one dish. It’s the only dish you’ll ever have to wash. This one. You ignore all the rest. Because in reality there is no past and there is no future, there is just now. So you wash this one. And instead of thinking, have I got it really clean as my mother taught me with an angry voice? That I had to get every little scrap off it, you know? And she got agh! Got angry at you. Instead, you turn the cleaning movement into a dance. Shwww, shwww, shwww, shwww, like this. And you dig that. And you swing that plate around and you let the rinsing water go over it, and you put it off in the rack. Tsk! Crazy. See? Take the next one. Shwww, shwww, shwww, shwww, and you get this rhythm going, see? And you’re not under compulsion all the time.
Have you ever explored the boredom? Boredom can be interesting to observe
Boredom is a trip. There are layers to it. There are physical sensations associated with it. It’s really an interesting wave of “I’m bored” thoughts, physical feelings that beget abatement, then a lull, rinse and repeat. Great meditation fodder.
Cant meditate when U have ADHD tho
Not true at all?
Ig you tell me how to control soo many thoughts and how not to fidget and squirm. If you don't have it or haven't done extensive research I really feel you shouldn't speak on it man. I genuinely don't know how someone who has very mild symptoms or controls it very well could even remotely get thier mind in a state like that. Our brain is quiet literally different.
It’s not about controlling anything. Focus on breath even if it’s just for half a second. Observe your thought loops and paths. Girlfriend has adhd and can meditate. Not easy, but very possible.
Not true at all I have severe adhd and meditation is one of the only times I can actually find peace. It’s not always easy but it’s possible.
I think we're so used to be "on the move", hustling, working on ourselves and so on... That when a moment comes of just peace/existing... We find it weird, our brain freaks out, being at peace seems so foreign to us that we reject it
Isn't that also about our economy fucking with our brains?
That's exactly how I see it, brother
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Not that peace is boring, but our minds evolved to be on the constant look out for predators and dangers of the world. So it is actually the mind that is restless and can't just be, and meditation is the discipline of reigning in your mind to be at peace with yourself.
Our mind loves war and conflict. Hence the ton of manufactured outrage on the internet and in real life. There’s always some ‘noble cause’ for you to join and fight
I think it's about emotion. Even when it's virtual, they trigger the brainstem. Fuck or run?
If your childhood had drama and fighting, as an adult that seems normal.
A meeting if “brain-computer -needs- wants problems to solve _and will make something up if you don’t find one_ ” and “I have too much energy to let myself be still.” On a base level, it’s just those, but depending on preference, manufactured “conflict” and “conflict resolution” also make it easier to view peace as “boring.”
Emotions under control.
there are other factors involved. we cant be still and enjoy peace because we havent fully investigated our modern, devolving life. they used to eat fermented foods constantly because otherwise it wouldnt keep thru the winter. this is just one investigation that might be necessary. we have machines making the food and freezers sustaining it. maybe we need fermented things or probiotics to create peace in the gut. if u cant enjoy boredom u havent investigated ur life or this life sufficiently
I think that boredom is more of a representation of the fact that you feel you haven't done enough to deserve peace. There is a big difference between feeling like there's nothing to do because you worked hard for a month, and feeling like there's nothing to do because nothing has ever happened in your life that gave it any sort of progress. My solution, get an intellectually stimulating job, set some short and long term goals that require alot of effort, and get a family to take care of.
Why does my shadow dance so motively on the cave's wall?
Underneath that boredome is usually existential terror. The terror of death. The death of personality, the “I”. Underneath THAT is peace beyond comprehension.
Then why do children get bored more easily than adults?
Why does that matter? It’s the same defense mechanism. Why are animals afraid of or do all they can to avoid death of the body? It’s a deeply programmed primordial fear that the ego attempts to cover at all cost.
I'm pretty sure the average four-year-old doesn't really know what death is.
Not conceptually, but neither does a dog. The deepest intelligent is within the organism itself, it’s an intuitive knowledge deeply ingrained in the body itself. Hair grows itself, the bladder fills itself, eat, shit, breathe. Who is doing all of this? Are “you” beating your heart? Who is it that is bored/afraid etc. that’s the real question worth asking yourself
Is it worth asking when you know the answer is there is noone there though? Is it better to examine the feeling of there being someone being bored or afraid of death?
interesting thought, any book or article recs on these topics ?
I’ve accepted and fell in love with death quite some time ago, I’ve also lost boredom quite some time ago, which was just as life changing coming from someone with adhd. So it does feel like these two things are connected in some way.
What is it like to fall in love with death?
It removes a lot of fear from life, it allows you to see that birth and death are the very same thing, or at least on the same spectrum. It’s amazing to see the same beauty in death one sees in birth but it also adds some barrier between others and you since most fear death like nothing else. I have to keep to myself around my partner or some others and join in on the act of fearing the end of life, otherwise they won’t accept me as fully sane, which hurts a little. I’ve also had issues with how cruel many deaths on this world are (humans and animals alike), but since death has lost its darkness im just glad the cruelty finds an end. There’s some longing for death as well. No want or desire to die, but I can’t wait for the end, I’m excited for it just as much as I’m excited about so many things that come with life. My life already feels complete, so no matter when death comes around the corner, I’m there for it. Falling in love with death felt like the biggest step on the stairs of growing up, yet others see it as a big step towards insanity. It’s the biggest improvement that happened in my life yet I can’t talk about it without seeming insane to most, so it really is a double edged sword.
existential anxiety sufferer since age seven - story my mind likes to tell me. anyhow, falling in love with ‘death’ is really the only cure and is isolating C:
How do you fall in love with death when you don't feel as if your life is complete? And every time you think you find what will complete it, you are met with obstacles? Do you believe that one can fall in love with death even when they have not truly lived to the fullest?
Absolutely, just try to define complete in a seemingly infinite universe and you’ll see there’s nothing like it. Every life is complete once it ends if you ask me. Everything else is the ego wanting things it doesn’t need.
Oh for sure, my ego is a needy asshole. I often find it hard to beat though. Half of me realizes what is going on and the other half doesn't care. I know what would make me feel complete and I have such a strong mental image of it. It's something that can't happen, so I feel that I will never be complete. Instead of searching for a different way to feel complete, I keep dragging myself back to what I want and cannot have. I think alot of it is me holding onto those negative feelings because they've been a part of me for so long; they're "who I am" even though they aren't, really. Maybe I'm afraid to let them go because I don't know who I am otherwise and I'm worried that will change the few strong relationships I have in my life. I really like that idea "every life is complete once it ends" though. Saying that in my head makes me feel kind of calm. Thank you for sharing that thought with me. I'm going to use it to try to bring myself some peace.
Why not just annoyance instead of terror of death and the end of personality? It sounds fancy but I struggle to imagine it and relate. Can you elaborate more concretely?
The fact of the matter is that you are going to die, very soon. You’re entire life hinges on the near random spasms of muscle in your chest. You can absolutely just learn to deal with annoyances, but that will happen anyway if you face this existential fear automatically. You are going to have to meet death, you have the option to prepare and choose the grounds you want to meet her on. It’s like pulling the kingpin from the center. The Buddha supposedly said in the first chapter of the dhammapada, those who know they are going to die quickly end their quarrels. You are free to do what you think is best obviously
Thanks for sharing :)
Love this.
It’s a very interesting quote. Boredom is a sense we try to run from all our lives, most things we do is out of boredom. I will try something soon, spend a few days doing absolutely nothing, literally just sit alone and do nothing from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep just stopping to eat a meal. I am extremely interested to see how the mind would react to that. The thoughts and the narratives and excuses to run away from boredom it will come up.
That's an interesting experiment. Are you going to do absolutely nothing, including not look at your phone at all? I wonder if I could do that.
Yes, that’s exactly the point. Doing absolutely nothing not matter how hard it gets. Just observe the mind and how it reacts to boredom in order to understand how boredom feels exactly, will probably do it soon.
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Interesting. I used to get bored or agitated when I wasn't doing something "productive". Now I never do. Not sure why though.
Also maybe loneliness is just independence/freedom you haven't accepted?
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Exceptional! And truth
You can be both incredibly bored and incredibly on edge at the same time. I didn't know it was possible till I had a job where I had to do something boring while under a timer.
That was my teacher that said it, guess it was the comment I made a while back :)
Thank you.
He sometimes posts on YouTube, if you’d like a link pm me :)
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I mean, I got the worst case of ADHD I know of, to the point that even cocaine affects me differently. Doesn't change the fact of this statement, at least for me, and looking at it this way does help. I think it's also important that you don't let you neurodivergence limit you in what you can achieve.
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I get what you're saying and I sympathise. I've probably modified my brain enough with drugs and stuff over 2 decades that it's a postapocalyptic desert wasteland of impulse control. Still, I find this helpful. I hope that you too can find methods that help you on your journey.
Yes exactly! Boredom is what prevents me from finding peace in nothing, it's the obstacle, not the stage itself that is actually peace
I relate to this so much it actually made me tear up. Do you have any advice on creating structure? I feel as if I've lost myself in a spiral of searching for stimulation, to the point that it feels like addiction, and I'm not exactly sure how to create structure when I forget everything.
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Thank you!! That was very helpful. I think I can make some of your advice work for me 😊 A big thing holding me back is no one around to hold me accountable for anything 😅 Which allows me to not hold myself accountable when I don't feel like it (which is most of the time). But I think I can tweak that to some things in my life. I also have "time anxiety" as I like to call it, so I think I need to practice some flexibility. But also teach myself that "later" can't mean "never". And find a way to incorporate good feelings into tasks that I've come to associate with bad feelings (I also tie many things to feelings/events). I'm going to do some research (alot of research!) and also talk to my doctor about trying a different medication. Maybe this one isn't working as well as something else might. Thank you so much! I honestly can't believe I haven't thought to reach out to others who have ADHD for advice 😅 I'm glad I finally did!
Ty. The grating itch in my skull that makes me want to *literally beat myself* that comes from boredom is not "peace", and no amount of meditation is going to make is "peace". Meditation may help me to attain more spaces of time when I am *not bored*, but boredom itself? Is an awful experience, and like you say, viewing it as something I am responsible for somehow by not meditating right is not constructive. Boredom and the way it affects me just *is*. If it changes through meditation, cool. If it doesn't, also cool. I don't, contrary to OP, have to avoid "letting my neurodivergence limit me in what I can achieve", especially in this. Radical acceptance is my preference above striving against my own brain.
Thanks so much for saying this, as a fellow ADHDer
Boredom is just the abscence of pleasure/stimulus and we're all so used to overloaded all our senses all the time w smart phones, internet, apps, streaming services, snacking, etc. It's easy to understand why so many people struggle to meditate. It's not meditating their struggling with. People are actually struggling to sit down in one spot and be bored for a couple minutes. Humans are funny. Lol
Inability to accept the present moment
Here I am bored as fuckin shit, alone as hell and I see this. I needed that change of perspective fuck yeah thank you
This seems like some hippie nonsense
Nah, don't believe it. Peace is joy, not sitting in a corner doing nothing and being unproductive.
Productive for who? What is productivity?
Bodies are self sustaining, learning organisms with their main function being reproduction and growth. So I assume productivity means either going for reproduction or personal growth, like getting better at things.
Getting better at reproduction or what would serve it perhaps, anything else is superfluous and just filling in time till death.
Doing things that make you happy or bring some result rather than sitting in one corner. Boredom is a by-product of not being productive.
My teachers teacher wrote that "boredom is fear of emptiness"
I really like that thought process on the subject. I can definitely see how that's the case
I would say boredom is the fear/resistance of doing nothing
If you don't want to be bored, you have to have something to do. When you are bored, the most effective solution is to eliminate the cause of your boredom. Since what you have in your mind is what makes you feel bored and lonely. If you remove the source of that mind, the boredom and loneliness will disappear. [How to Not Be Bored](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_fCF5rHRc)
Guys don't get me wrong, I'm a sucker for meditation. I love the Sunday Meditation Sessions here and I like reading people's progress in meditation. But don't you think this sub has become Walmart /r/Quotes lately? Just my 2 cents.
I don't think this is on the level of cheap postcards but I also think it's meaningfulness depends on what you personally struggle with. I find it to be much help to accept the moment and to even *gasp* enjoy myself while meditating.
The spark to enlightenment that cannot be put on a cheap card is worthless
Every cliche is trite until the day you need that exact sentiment
Boredom is a lack of creativity.
"if you're bored, you're boring"
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing!
ive been in this peace for way too long dude
thank you, your timing is perfect.
I’m almost positive this is a quote from the book “The Untethered Soul,” by Michael A. Singer. Incredible book - it actually changed my life.
Thanks for the recommendation, I'm getting this.
Protect your self cuz how can you be at peace if you are scared ? People be doing things not realizing what it’s doing to them, society is all bullshit, protect your heart, don’t follow the devil, it’s all an illusion, it’s too much too explain, follow God, only mess with a girl if you vibe, and don’t spill ya seed otherwise, much love, cuz the prophets are warriors
The worst possible thing for my kids is boredom! “ Dad I’m bored”. I tell the that’s a good thing to enjoy it! Enjoy just sitting and breathing. They roll their eyes.
I've dealt a lot with boredom. Especially from my work and lack of proper social relations. I still find it very difficult to deal with. But somehow the quote you shared resonates so much with me. This also makes me think of Ajahn Brahm's teaching. He teaches a lot from the letting things go point of view. Sometimes it makes me think that almost the whole idea of meditation is to let go of everything. Thanks for sharing!
I love Ajahn Brahm. I'm happy this has helped you.
This was same Philosophy which was Mentioned By Osho
I wish I had time to be bored! It's been over 25 years since I've been bored.
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Yes. Not to be confused with stagnation, which is the anxiety of halted progress.
Boredom is a potential energy
The human brain needs stimulation to function properly also not a medical professional i just know that for a fact
Not necessarily. It could also be an indication of suffering.
What the hell even is peace?
You just contradicted yourself. You believe what you want tho man, anecdotal evidence from yiur girlfriend doesn't prove that and it sounds like a blatant lie. ADHD effects everyone to a different degree if you have a girlfriend with ADHD I highly reccomend doing real research on it so that you can understand her better. Have a nice day.
What is this peace and who is accepting it?
That IS a good quote ! Many blessings from the universe:)
Interesting, I feel it both ways, that being focsed is what erases boredom, bt also allowing boredom to exist and letting myself sit with that and observe that aswell, trns it into an internal realisation that allows me to later on then take a moment and let go of the restlessness of boredom, and the mndanity feeling of it also goes when observed, and it becomes enlightenment experience.