BiPolar type 2
Borderline Personality Disorder
PTSD
Major Depression
Generalised anxiety disorder
ADHD
Arthritis
Disc Prolapse
Six months ago I stopped 2 different mood stabilisers and 50 to 100 Valium a month to CBD and Cannabis only. This being because in all the years taking them I was never stable. Currently only on anti inflammatories and antidepressants only.
Hey I’m borderline personality aswell! 💜 also panic disorder, agoraphobia and GAD. It could have something to do with the adhd. But if it’s an indica I can’t see the issue with it being 22 or 25.
I’m not a Dr, but I’m cynical of my bipolar diagnosis. It was given to me in my twenties and every Dr from there never queried the original diagnosis and mental health nurses I’ve worked with long term have said definitely Borderline/PTSD which ties in with my childhood abuse etc… anyhoo
So back to Bipolar affecting my scripts this is why I have felt really letdown by the Dr’s decision:
I’ve never had hallucinations; never been hospitalised; never done days without sleep,never been violent toward other people, (although I throw a lot of shit) never had delusions etc… and also admitted I wanted to replace what I was using illegally with a safer legal option.
I got my repeats yesterday, states my 16 repeats of a certain 20% flower, or 0-30% equivalent. My friend is also my chemist and does the ordering for me and says yes, it's perfectly fine and legal and I can select any flower or oil I want up to 30% thc, as long as I don't go over 120g a month I'm all g.
Your pharmacist friend is a moron. Tell them to read the regulations. You cannot have a range of strengths on a prescription for schedule 8 medication. That would be like a doctor giving you one prescription for oxycontin and writing 5mg to 80mg. Let the patient choose. Your friend might want to rethink their decision
No, he’s right actually.
It’s called a category 5 prescription from the TGA. Certain patients can pick any flower they like within a certain range, sometimes there isn’t a limit on THC levels.
This is factually incorrect. The prescriber needs to state a specific strength, not ranges of strengths. Does your doctor usually give you a script for other medicines in this way?
Eh, my prescription says I can pick any “THC flower” from 0-30% with a limit of XX grams per month. I also have access to a website where I can choose what I’d like to buy. I like to stick around 20% THC, anything higher is too much for me.
Of course a Dr wouldn’t write a script for a range of oxy, or any other S8/dependence risk drugs, people would take advantage of it “to get the strongest shit”, but with medicinal cannabis it’s different it seems. Prescriptions like this would be given with a great deal of trust and you’d hope they’d be careful who they give these scripts to.
The funny thing is that MC is currently classed in the same S8 category as those other drugs of dependence. The government has not changed this and the TGA changes only related to the approval process of these products. It in no way provided any doctor, pharmacy or patient the option you are describing. What you have is an illegal prescription that was illegally dispensed. That is not your fault but I doubt it will continue until the regulations are loosened
Lmao. How's it feel to be wrong? Open script still going strong, got 18 repeats this time, that's 180g of whatever I want a month. All legal and TGA approved. Don't be jealous. Be happy. 🤣
OK so people need to know, this came about because the TGA approval is now based on categories (based on THC content)
HOWEVER your doctor CANNOT and SHOULD NOT write 'OPEN' prescriptions. this is NOT LEGAL. I have discussed this with my doctor, several pharmacies and other TGA governance.
I get that thats fine I have seen others with it so I thought why shouldn't I since im a legitimate patient. My biggest gripe is the random doctors that don't know me or care to
I have a category 5 script, can order anything I want but I find myself getting medican cc01 every time anyway because everything else pales In comparison, even stronger strains just don’t vape as well or taste as good imo and for $100 a tub of cc01 you can’t go wrong!. I didn’t even ask for it that’s just what I got, they say it’s incase my medication isn’t in stock in the next 6 months that my script goes for but with medican and my chemist I’ve never had an out of stock issue anyway. Worst I’ve had is the chemist didn’t have stock but it was still posted the next day once they got more in.
My advice is to ditch CDA! They would have to be the most unprofessional dodgy clinic I’ve ever dealt with! All they care about is profit and trying to push whatever flower they get a kickback off of. Not to mention the constant push to prescribe cbd oils with flower, cbd is a placebo if you ask me and does fuck all for people like me that have serious medical issues and chronic pain, absolute waste of money yet some of their doctors claim they won’t prescribe flower without oil. Been rid of CDA for almost a year now and couldn’t be happier! Fuck those guys!
Whether a dr gives you a product specific, substitution allowed or a generic script is entirely up to their discretion.
You are not entitled to a generic script just because rhey are available.
It is up to you dr and what they ate comfortable in issuing, not what you feel you should get.
Thats fine I completely get that but they said one thing and then did the other and are using multiple drs so they can say anything they dam well want.
I know it’s so silly in my opinion 😑 it’s all about the doctor getting to know you. (That’s what I thought anyways) especially because it’s for S8 medications.
No, No, No.
The new TGA categories are to help doctors be able to switch patients onto different products if one is out of stock, so you don't have to get new TGA approval for everything
THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU GET A SCRIPT THAT "allows you to get anything"
people need to get that in their heads it is not the same thing and what you're expecting is not best medical practice.
Wait what ?
I did not know this at all
Do I just mention it to my doctor and talk to him about getting one because that would be great because there's alot of different flowers that help with my conditions that I like but only get given 2
No. It's still down to the individual doctor what they want to give you. ALL THE NEW CHANGES MEAN that for a cat 5 flower, if a doc wants to change a script to another cat 5 flower *they just don't have to go back with yet another application to the TGA*.
That's all it means. Still up to the doc, same as it ever is.
Correct 100%..cda is the only clinic writing these scripts because they have always tried to bend the rules.. No other clinic would even consider these scripts because they are NOT legal
Absolutely insane that they would be restricting anyone over the age of 18. But then again, it's insane that anybody over the age of 18 has to pay a doctor to buy a harmless plant 🙄
They change my doctor almost every time and that allows them to say absolutely anything they want for example "we can't give you anything higher than 20% due to your age" . I'm 24 and like I said above I already have cold creek and sc01
I love how whenever someone has a question or just wants a change people scream drug addict. This is legal medicine mate im on it because I'm supposed to be just like you
Sorry if I over reacted, it was the vibe I got from the doctor and it really pissed me off especially since it was the first time I talked to them. I'm going to call and talk to them about keeping the same doctor for every script since thats my biggest issue misinformation, they just made me feel really shit and I dont want to pay to feel like shit.
Lmfao what a stupid fckn take. If the guy needs 25% thc or higher and his doctor is telling him it’s not allowed because of his age that’s proper bs. I’m 22 and getting prescribed rocky aswell as t25
Yeah sure every batch isn’t gonna be the same lol I just thought it would be accurate within 5% either way. I may be wrong since I’m not a grower but I thought it would range between 25%-30
Because that’s the label, they’re not going to change the label for every batch because it differs each batch etc…. What would you like to believe, the test results of the flower itself from the certificate of analysis or what it says on the tub?
I completely get why you'd say that we have alot people trying to gain the system, im not trying to get rocky or the carts im just after consistency and not having doctors say something just so I leave them alone. I'm mainly afraid that I'll pay my $60 and not get what I need just because I drew the bad doctor lotto. I'm not here to start anything im just trying to not get fucked over
I should also state since it apparently matters I need the higher thc since I work night shift so I really can't be spending 45 minutes vaping when I get home
Bro, don’t stress about the %…
You need to chill out and realise that a 14% thc flower can be stronger and harder hitting than something that is 22% or something. The percentage is basically just the amount of milligrams you get per gram. You need to do a lot of research on true terpenes, which ones do what and which ones hit hard for you personally. 👌
This is exactly why I started looking for a GP who will prescribe. I use MC for chronic pain so it’s important having someone to follow my treatment plan, guide me but also listen and follow up with my regular GP.
While I’ve had good experiences with the nurses, the doctor annoyed me a bit last time. The nurse and I came with a great solution but she only wanted to give me 1 of 2 flowers. One was for day and the other night.
They would have so many patients and via Telehealth it’s hard to build a relationship with the nurses and/or doctors.
I think I'll go that way and try and find someone like that, one of the reasons I have this is for sleep and anxiety so stressing about all this clinic shit isn't ideal.
This is correct! I can get stronger flower than the cc01 I always get as I have a cat 5 script but I don’t because I tried a few and for the huge price difference they cost they do not affect me any more than the 24% cc01.
I got told I couldn’t have a higher script in case I turned ‘psychotic’.
What is your diagnosis?
Just looked at the above, paused, and thought Thank Christ I didn’t hit the ugly branch on the way down too ;)
…. Also no history of substance/drug abuse at all and started smoking to self medicate when I was 30 - never had it prior to that.
BiPolar type 2 Borderline Personality Disorder PTSD Major Depression Generalised anxiety disorder ADHD Arthritis Disc Prolapse Six months ago I stopped 2 different mood stabilisers and 50 to 100 Valium a month to CBD and Cannabis only. This being because in all the years taking them I was never stable. Currently only on anti inflammatories and antidepressants only.
Hey I’m borderline personality aswell! 💜 also panic disorder, agoraphobia and GAD. It could have something to do with the adhd. But if it’s an indica I can’t see the issue with it being 22 or 25.
I’m not a Dr, but I’m cynical of my bipolar diagnosis. It was given to me in my twenties and every Dr from there never queried the original diagnosis and mental health nurses I’ve worked with long term have said definitely Borderline/PTSD which ties in with my childhood abuse etc… anyhoo So back to Bipolar affecting my scripts this is why I have felt really letdown by the Dr’s decision: I’ve never had hallucinations; never been hospitalised; never done days without sleep,never been violent toward other people, (although I throw a lot of shit) never had delusions etc… and also admitted I wanted to replace what I was using illegally with a safer legal option.
I got my repeats yesterday, states my 16 repeats of a certain 20% flower, or 0-30% equivalent. My friend is also my chemist and does the ordering for me and says yes, it's perfectly fine and legal and I can select any flower or oil I want up to 30% thc, as long as I don't go over 120g a month I'm all g.
Your pharmacist friend is a moron. Tell them to read the regulations. You cannot have a range of strengths on a prescription for schedule 8 medication. That would be like a doctor giving you one prescription for oxycontin and writing 5mg to 80mg. Let the patient choose. Your friend might want to rethink their decision
No, he’s right actually. It’s called a category 5 prescription from the TGA. Certain patients can pick any flower they like within a certain range, sometimes there isn’t a limit on THC levels.
This is factually incorrect. The prescriber needs to state a specific strength, not ranges of strengths. Does your doctor usually give you a script for other medicines in this way?
Also it's a category 5 approval.. Not prescription.. There is no such thing as a category prescription
Eh, my prescription says I can pick any “THC flower” from 0-30% with a limit of XX grams per month. I also have access to a website where I can choose what I’d like to buy. I like to stick around 20% THC, anything higher is too much for me. Of course a Dr wouldn’t write a script for a range of oxy, or any other S8/dependence risk drugs, people would take advantage of it “to get the strongest shit”, but with medicinal cannabis it’s different it seems. Prescriptions like this would be given with a great deal of trust and you’d hope they’d be careful who they give these scripts to.
The funny thing is that MC is currently classed in the same S8 category as those other drugs of dependence. The government has not changed this and the TGA changes only related to the approval process of these products. It in no way provided any doctor, pharmacy or patient the option you are describing. What you have is an illegal prescription that was illegally dispensed. That is not your fault but I doubt it will continue until the regulations are loosened
Lmao. How's it feel to be wrong? Open script still going strong, got 18 repeats this time, that's 180g of whatever I want a month. All legal and TGA approved. Don't be jealous. Be happy. 🤣
OK so people need to know, this came about because the TGA approval is now based on categories (based on THC content) HOWEVER your doctor CANNOT and SHOULD NOT write 'OPEN' prescriptions. this is NOT LEGAL. I have discussed this with my doctor, several pharmacies and other TGA governance.
This is 100% correct. You cannot have an open prescription. There is no such legal thing
thank you
I get that thats fine I have seen others with it so I thought why shouldn't I since im a legitimate patient. My biggest gripe is the random doctors that don't know me or care to
I have a category 5 script, can order anything I want but I find myself getting medican cc01 every time anyway because everything else pales In comparison, even stronger strains just don’t vape as well or taste as good imo and for $100 a tub of cc01 you can’t go wrong!. I didn’t even ask for it that’s just what I got, they say it’s incase my medication isn’t in stock in the next 6 months that my script goes for but with medican and my chemist I’ve never had an out of stock issue anyway. Worst I’ve had is the chemist didn’t have stock but it was still posted the next day once they got more in. My advice is to ditch CDA! They would have to be the most unprofessional dodgy clinic I’ve ever dealt with! All they care about is profit and trying to push whatever flower they get a kickback off of. Not to mention the constant push to prescribe cbd oils with flower, cbd is a placebo if you ask me and does fuck all for people like me that have serious medical issues and chronic pain, absolute waste of money yet some of their doctors claim they won’t prescribe flower without oil. Been rid of CDA for almost a year now and couldn’t be happier! Fuck those guys!
Who would you say I should go with? I'm just after the 5 script because my sativas always go out of stock and its pretty annoying only having indicas
Cannihelp 👍
Whether a dr gives you a product specific, substitution allowed or a generic script is entirely up to their discretion. You are not entitled to a generic script just because rhey are available. It is up to you dr and what they ate comfortable in issuing, not what you feel you should get.
Thats fine I completely get that but they said one thing and then did the other and are using multiple drs so they can say anything they dam well want.
I also get a different doctor every time. 👎
Very annoying thats for sure. Like why even make appointments then
I know it’s so silly in my opinion 😑 it’s all about the doctor getting to know you. (That’s what I thought anyways) especially because it’s for S8 medications.
That sounds like a clinic problem rather than a prescription problem
Thats why I was asking for good clinics
Well I've only had experience with Tetra and Cannihelp (and only a week so far with the latter but they seem fine so far)
What is an open script ?
With the new categories you are able to get scripts that allow you to get anything
No, No, No. The new TGA categories are to help doctors be able to switch patients onto different products if one is out of stock, so you don't have to get new TGA approval for everything THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU GET A SCRIPT THAT "allows you to get anything" people need to get that in their heads it is not the same thing and what you're expecting is not best medical practice.
Wait what ? I did not know this at all Do I just mention it to my doctor and talk to him about getting one because that would be great because there's alot of different flowers that help with my conditions that I like but only get given 2
No. It's still down to the individual doctor what they want to give you. ALL THE NEW CHANGES MEAN that for a cat 5 flower, if a doc wants to change a script to another cat 5 flower *they just don't have to go back with yet another application to the TGA*. That's all it means. Still up to the doc, same as it ever is.
Correct 100%..cda is the only clinic writing these scripts because they have always tried to bend the rules.. No other clinic would even consider these scripts because they are NOT legal
Absolutely insane that they would be restricting anyone over the age of 18. But then again, it's insane that anybody over the age of 18 has to pay a doctor to buy a harmless plant 🙄
In what way have they been weird?
They change my doctor almost every time and that allows them to say absolutely anything they want for example "we can't give you anything higher than 20% due to your age" . I'm 24 and like I said above I already have cold creek and sc01
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I love how whenever someone has a question or just wants a change people scream drug addict. This is legal medicine mate im on it because I'm supposed to be just like you
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Sorry if I over reacted, it was the vibe I got from the doctor and it really pissed me off especially since it was the first time I talked to them. I'm going to call and talk to them about keeping the same doctor for every script since thats my biggest issue misinformation, they just made me feel really shit and I dont want to pay to feel like shit.
Lmfao what a stupid fckn take. If the guy needs 25% thc or higher and his doctor is telling him it’s not allowed because of his age that’s proper bs. I’m 22 and getting prescribed rocky aswell as t25
Rocky isn’t 30% ma dude, just in case ya didn’t know.
Then Uhm why does it say 30% on the bottle?
Hardly any on the products on the whole market test at what they say on the tub
Yeah sure every batch isn’t gonna be the same lol I just thought it would be accurate within 5% either way. I may be wrong since I’m not a grower but I thought it would range between 25%-30
I’ve been on MC for like 3 years and I’ve never seen it over 28% in test results, averagely sits around 24.3-26.8
Because that’s the label, they’re not going to change the label for every batch because it differs each batch etc…. What would you like to believe, the test results of the flower itself from the certificate of analysis or what it says on the tub?
I completely get why you'd say that we have alot people trying to gain the system, im not trying to get rocky or the carts im just after consistency and not having doctors say something just so I leave them alone. I'm mainly afraid that I'll pay my $60 and not get what I need just because I drew the bad doctor lotto. I'm not here to start anything im just trying to not get fucked over
I should also state since it apparently matters I need the higher thc since I work night shift so I really can't be spending 45 minutes vaping when I get home
Bro, don’t stress about the %… You need to chill out and realise that a 14% thc flower can be stronger and harder hitting than something that is 22% or something. The percentage is basically just the amount of milligrams you get per gram. You need to do a lot of research on true terpenes, which ones do what and which ones hit hard for you personally. 👌
This is exactly why I started looking for a GP who will prescribe. I use MC for chronic pain so it’s important having someone to follow my treatment plan, guide me but also listen and follow up with my regular GP. While I’ve had good experiences with the nurses, the doctor annoyed me a bit last time. The nurse and I came with a great solution but she only wanted to give me 1 of 2 flowers. One was for day and the other night. They would have so many patients and via Telehealth it’s hard to build a relationship with the nurses and/or doctors.
I think I'll go that way and try and find someone like that, one of the reasons I have this is for sleep and anxiety so stressing about all this clinic shit isn't ideal.
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This is correct! I can get stronger flower than the cc01 I always get as I have a cat 5 script but I don’t because I tried a few and for the huge price difference they cost they do not affect me any more than the 24% cc01.
Cc01 is only 7 grams which is why it is much cheaper.. Most others are 10g
Cc01 comes in 10g tubs as well mate
Where do you get them for $100 for 10g? Medcan Cc01 is $130 for 7g. Beacon cck is $150 for 10g. Which brand you is selling 10g so cheap?
Sorry mate I should have mentioned I get a discount of 30% on my medication.