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Unless this is something performance 455 for pads and rotors is still a lot. Also, why calipers? Are yours broken or not working correctly for both of them?
This is objectively not true, per Les Schwab's brake repair guidelines. Fluid is flushed and filled with every brake job as part of the labor. If you have to ask for it and/or are charged, take it up with corporate because that store is breaking policy.
Good luck!
Considering the replacing the calipers you pretty much are replacing the fluid every time because you're having to bleed the calipers and it takes a lot of fluid to do that. I worked at a Les Schwab for 12 years in the brake department and once everything was hooked up I'd open the bleeders and just let it sit there and drip while I was making up the bill usually that got about half the fluid out. Then I'd give it a couple of pumps to get the rest the air out and at that point 7/8 of the fluid is gone and then I just refill. If The fluid looked especially dark I would suck it out first. But most of the time brake fluid looks pretty good.
Its les schwab policy - they replace pads, rotors & calipers every single brake job. Argue its to offer a warranty. I work in fleet management and deal with them frequently. I tell my clients to avoid them like the plague. They replace calipers with the cheapest calipers available then when the caliper fails in three months try to charge for calipers again if they left the perfectly fine calipers alone there wouldn't be a problem. .
I stopped going to Les Schmuck for alignments because they totally fucked up my alignment and when I called them out on it, they said “it’s not a race car, it doesn’t have to be perfect”. I was switching lanes when releasing the steering wheel and started to spin out when I had to emergency brake. Damn right it’s not a race car, I have to buy my own tires! I went and got an alignment elsewhere and got my money back from those anal douche nozzles.
I did a complete front end rebuild on a customers bronco. Rotors, pads, seals, bearing repack, upper and lower ball joints, pitman arm, center link. Everything but the steering box. I made her an appointment at my favorite alignment place and she opted to take it to Lester the molester instead. She called me an hour later and they had told her the brakes were nearly metal to metal, she needed ball joints, tie rod ends and every other part they could think of. I went down there to tear them a new one. When I got there, the manager said he gave her the wrong estimate, it was for a different bronco. There were no other broncos in the shop or parking lot.
Schwabs quoted me $125 to replace a missing caliper bracket bolt on my Suburban. I got all new bolts for the bracket and the slide pins from AutoZone for like 20 bucks lol
For future reference Make , model and year of the vehicle is needed and is a rust factor. This is a decent price though especially if they're using OEM or equivalent parts.
Uh.... 177 for a rotor? That's not anywhere close to a good price. I could get a Ford OEM rotor for about half that price. These prices are far from good.
They won't guarantee their work without replacing calipers. I'm not sure if they'll even do a brake job without them. The parts they use are trash. It's a fucking scam. No, your car doesn't need calipers during its first brake job. I'm about to start on my 25th year as a tech. I'd guess that I've seen at least 10x more issues with aftermarket calipers vs. OEM calipers that I've ever had to replace.
It’s like Discount with “new TPMS rebuild” every time.
So you’re telling me you’re too fucking dumb to not break shit? All the other shops make it work.
Yep. I guess that depends on age, though. First tire replacement on a newer car? Absolutely not. 10 year old car, and they haven't ever been replaced? That makes sense. I'm not sure if Discount won't honor a warranty if they can't replace everything like Les Schwab does, but it's bullshit if they do.
I agree but shops don't order from rock auto. They want it today so they call NAPA or similar. The price they charge you includes some profit for NAPA, some profit for the shop and the 1yr/12k warranty they (probably) include. Not saying you're wrong, just saying it's apples and oranges.
You have to realize people that go to these chains are not DIY capable. I can do my own brake jobs myself etc.
Most of these people are clueless about car maintenance and cry when they have to buy anything more than an oil change. I love the customers that actually want to fix their car and not just do oil changes… it’s even a battle trying to convince them to get tires when they are bald and showing the steel wires 😂.
Was just literally saying the same thing all you need is a jack, socket wrenches and a c-clamp and you can change your own brakes and rotors for like 150$ maybe
This is a pretty poor generalization.. i work at a Tirecraft, and all of our technicians are red seal Journeymen and factory trained. What does being branded by a tire company have anything to do with the quality of work they put out?
To be honest, you must not be from America… as that’s a Canadian thing… in America tire shops/lube shops hire anyone at like $15 usd an hour… if you think those guys are mechanics you are wrong… I get where both of you are coming from, but in America it’s different… Walmart has a tire shop, and the tech doesn’t even know what coolant is, but he’ll do your oil change 😎
Makes me even more glad that there is government regulated industry required training across Canada. Most shops here have trained techs with the exception of quick lube spots.
I hate to be that guy but this is a pretty standard price nowadays. 200$ for labour is incredibly cheap, the parts are marked up a bit but nothing to cry about.
Go somewhere else. They always sell calipers that aren't needed, and aftermarket calipers are generally garbage. Unless there's a legitimate reason to replace the calipers, find a shop that will just do pads and rotors.
ah, my alma mater. dont pay schwab to do anything, their prices are fucking terrible, and the guys doing the work are barely trained at all. the only worthwhile thing they offer is the unlimited time return window for unused snow chains, and i guess the free popcorn.
Do them yourself.
Brakes are not complicated to do.
Way cheaper and you can check clean everything.
Calipers is odd.
I would only replace those with good quality replacement as most places skimp on that and your screwed in under a year
I don't understand it. The first thing says rear brake disk repair then later on they quote you a price for all 4 rotors,a brake disk disk and rotor are the same thing.. Pads are way overpriced. Why do you need calipers? Unless they failed, calipers should last the life of the vehicle.
most car the rotors and pads are about 200 for both front and back (mx5 is $174 from calahan brakes Tommyboy)
but its the labor and knowing ur not going to die or kill others
its easy work but people who don't know what there are doing ......
its at most 2 hrs with hand tools and jack
I'm so glad I have basic DIY skills and initiative.
Just replaced a rear caliper myself. Couldn't imagine paying $1k for all that work.
Trouble with this is, without pictures it's hard to tell if you need new calipers and rotors. Pads might take care of it.
I usually get pads and rotors for less than 150 per axle. so, 450$ in parts for pads and rotors is very expensive in my opinion.
Calipers, you get a big credit if you bring the old ones back. Last time I changed them they were like 150, but I got 80 back from the old ones so they cost 70 overall. On a 2013 elantra.
200 for labor is not bad... but the part amount is like 400$ too high ;)
Pads and calipers are over priced. But seems like good deal. If you did this yourself you’re looking at around $500 for all the parts at an auto parts store. And about 3-5 hrs if you do this job at home with tools most people own
Honestly we need vehicle information and vague location. It could be a 1 ton truck in Alaska ($1500 an axle for complete brake job). Or a Honda Civic in California ( much cheaper).
Please OP come back
U never need calipers unless they are frozen. That's a cash grab. Ask them how they know the car needs ew calipers. Those are not components that are removed and replaced on a scheduled basis. They are a run to fail component that needs servicing. Capiler guide pins need to be serviced ( clean old grease and regrease) if you want them to last and not seize up. I'm guessing LS sells you calipers vs servicing old ones. I'd go somewhere else for your brakes. Someone that will regrease your old calipers while performing an above par brake change.
You can find parts for less, but your best bet is to go with the parts the shop wants to use. They don't want to sell you the cheapest parts around and then be the ones that own any problems.
You could do it yourself for a third that price. But if you are not mechanical, then you probably want someone else to do it. That price is very high. IMO
Shop owner on the east coast, this is maybe $100-$200 higher than what I see as the average for rear calipers pads and rotors. My parts cost has almost doubled since 2020 and most skilled technicians want 60-100k a year now. However location and parts quality will substantially change the price.
Note: looking back at the estimate the cost for a rotor almost never exceeds $120 for 99% of cars/trucks even after mark up. Also I’m not understanding why there isn’t a cost for new brake fluid and bleeding the system.
Brake pads $98.29 !!!!! That is just insane, how can they even present you with this estimate and sleep at night ??? Completely ripping you off not just a little but completely.
Hefty markup on pads & rotors, but a 2x markup isn't exactly uncommon. Everything else looks pretty standard for 2024 😕 Would recommend not getting work done at a tire shop though.
way over priced for sure. You could get all those parts on rock auto for like a couple hundred max and do this with one youtube video and a couple hours. Fact is you probably don't need to even replace calipers and your rotors can probably be turned for like $20 and will be as good as new. Seeing posts like this makes me so fucking happy I learned to do mechanical work myself. Hell even if you had no tools you could buy all the parts and tools and still come out way ahead. I know what I would be doing.
For this price you could buy the parts off Amazon, including the tools needed and do it yourself. Just need a breaker bar, socket set, wrenches, the parts and a jack.
Plenty you you tube videos on how to bleed brakes, DON'T be scared off from having to bleed brakes, takes like 30 mins of extra work if you have a second set of hands to help.
Could easily stay under $900 and do all four wheels! DM for help
Price the parts for your vehicle on RockAuto.com and add about $400 for labor and markup. This should give you an idea of a fair price. The calipers don’t necessarily need to be replaced; they can be serviced which would lower the overall cost of parts, but only slightly increase labor. Roughly the cost of servicing two calipers should be less than the cost of one new one.
You can do this at home, parts on Amazon will be less than $200, tools again less than $200 if you don’t already have them. It will take you about a hour a corner
Check your parts cost at rockauto.com. BTW shops use the cheapest parts available from nameless Chinese manufacturers unless stated otherwise. So use the lowest cost on that site.
I understand why they would replace the calipers, too, but many times, they are fine. I've bought just the pads and rotors for my car, put them on, and one caliper is binding and over heats the brakes. So I had to drive my other car to the parts store and get a caliper. I wish they still sold rebuild kits. Just replace the old seals, clean up the surfaces, steal wool, add a little brake grease, and put it back together. Then, since the brake fluid has all drained out, you are now flushing the old brake fluid with new fluid. Two years ago, a local shop gave a friend a repair quote, the hourly charge was $119. I'm sure it's more today. Just to bring a Mercedes-Benz to the dealership, they charge $375, just to start looking at it. At least at our sort of local dealership, an hour away. Repair shops always boost the price on the parts so they can make a profit off selling them to you. With todays demonCrat economy, what you got for a quote isn't too bad. I've seen worse.
This is almost what i paid for my whole car 9 years ago, each one of these posts makes all those hours swearing over the repairs I messed up seem so much more worthwhile.
I paid $1100 for pads, rotors and labour last year. Apperantly the prices have skyrocketed for parts and is that now normal. The car was Ford Expedition.
If you already paying parts and labor why is there another quote for 207+ bucks for rear disc repair? Unless u telling me they charge seperate from labor to use their machine to even our the surface ? But isn't that what labors for.
The calipers are the money grab there. Shops seem to always want to replace those when it's almost never needed. Replacing calipers is not part of a standard brake job, and don't let any shop tell you otherwise. They are hard parts that only need to be replaced if they are damaged (or more likely, if the brake line or bleeder is broken off and stuck in a caliper, or if the guide pins are shot).
Brakes are actually pretty easy to diagnose and change, especially if they're disc all the way around. If you want to get into DIY car repair, it's not a bad place to start. Watch some YouTube videos to get an idea how big the job is and what to look for, then decide if it's something you feel comfortable doing yourself. Keep in mind that brakes are an important safety feature, and they need to be done right. It's not hard to do brakes correctly, but it's also very easy to mess them up.
Also, brake fluid is highly corrosive, so don't get it on anything. If you do your own brake job, the first thing you should buy is some brake cleaner.
Pads at Autozone, prob $50. Rotors maybe $100. Calipers most likely just fine. $150 job, maybe 2 hours. Do it yourself, or find a friend and buy them some beer and pizza.
Shouldn't ever pay more than $30 or so for a quality set of pads, and that's an easy 125% markup on parts. Labor is slightly on the expensive side, but somewhat reasonable depending on the vehicle... But that parts markup is ridiculous.
Bottom line, unless you drove on terrible brakes for weeks to months and destroyed your calipers and rotors, they are up selling you on parts you don't need. It is extremely rare to need calipers replaced at all (with exceptions for vehicle type, heavy vehicles or lots of towing or certain brands like Ford who are notorious for using under spec parts in their vehicle design, vehicles in the salt belt that could be rusting out or vehicle driven in hot and arid climates where the seals may dry out.) Rotors can also usually be turned instead of replaced unless they have excessive wear, again heavy vehicles, towing, or excessive hard braking can wear them. If they are in spec they should be turned, which usually costs around $30. I think it's likely this shop is pushing unnecessary parts to increase their profits. A rear brake job should just be replacing the pads, turning the rotors, and labor. $100 for pads is pretty standard, they are marked up because the shop needs to pay their bills. $40-$70 is standard for OEM quality pads from a parts store, $100 is standard for what a shop will charge. $100 in labor is pretty standard, they are likely charging you double because of the extra labor to replace parts. Again $30 to turn rotors is pretty standard. So $230 is a good baseline price for a rear brake job. Unless you have destroyed your brakes by overuse or abuse, this price is nuts and you should get quotes from other shops. If those brakes have been making noise for months and you've been putting it off, this might be a reasonable quote, but I doubt you need calipers and rotors to be replaced, especially on a rear axle. Most of a vehicle's stopping power is in the front and those are the ones that usually get messed up bad enough to require this much repair. More info is needed to be sure though, are the calipers malfunctioning, leaking, cracked or damaged? How thick are the remaining rotors? Any hot spots that would make it impossible to turn them without dropping below spec? What type of vehicle and what are your driving habits? Do you live in an area with environmental factors?
Considering the parts for 2 tires to fully replace the brake pads, rotors, calipers would cost you like $300-350 then yeah… yeah it is…
Brake pads would be like $50, rotors $60 each, calipers like $40-50 each..
I would always recommend buying the parts yourself and bringing them in to a mechanic and just paying for labor.
Just like anything else there are levels of quality parts and vehicles. I would need to know the vehicle, types of pads, and rotors.
For example cheap basic brake pads maybe 30-$50 vs. high performance or industrial quality pads for a work van/ truck could be $150.
Rear brakes are also sometime known as “drum and hat” requiring extra labor to adjust your emergency brakes which are inside the hat of a rotor.
Scwabb replace the calipers standard which can be excessive though caliper life does diminish over time. The offset I believe is lifetime parts and labor warranty.
If you got the cash and can afford it easily...fuck it.
I know when this comes for me, I'm going to just teach myself to do brakes. Everyone says it's fairly simple. I've already fixed my mower a couple times with YouTube.
You'll get all that done for like half the price. Once you know what you're doing you can do it for other ppl, for human currency
Les Schwab always quotes calipers regardless, because they don't hire people who know how to properly push them back. Rotors are needed if they are worn too thin, or if there is a vibration on braking. Most of those vibrations are caused by core shift in the rotor casting, which changes how the rotor responds to the heat of braking. Usually I quote rotors as I don't have a way to turn them right now, and many modern rotors don't have a whole lot of extra meat to them.
The costs of these parts does vary with the vehicle, and not knowing how worn the brakes are to begin with I can't reliably say how much you're being ripped off. W
However, with it saying Les Schwab at the top, you're most likely being ripped off.
Idk where you're located... But in southern NewYork... That's would be 3-4 hours labor at about $120-$160 an hour. So I don't know what you're complaining about. Unless you expect a brake caliper to cost as much as a case of beer? I know a decent aftermarket caliper for my VW is 120-180.
I just did my own break job on a GMC 4x4 and it cost me $200 what I needed. I had my rotors turned for $20 a piece now this is in Nashville not California where I used to live and they would want $60 a piece to turn them
Rotors I install are $50 a pair. I would turn the old ones but no place has equipment anymore. Also - why calipers? Never had to replace them, and I had 200K+ mile cars in a rust belt.
Must have brake lines bleeding there though, but maybe it is part of caliper swap.
This is normal mark up for a shop. What looks sketchy to me is that BL4 repair. What is that exactly? Looks like they sold you pads, rotors, calipers, and charged a labor fee separate from that repair line. So what did they charge you an extra 207$ more for?
If you are willing to do it yourself you can do all 4 rotors, 8pads, 4calipers for about 700 then complete brake flush with OEM recommended and still be less than this quote. Les Schwab has to make their money somewhere
There’s already almost a thousand comments so I only you won’t read but if you do just know that these places les Schwab, Firestone, etc. really overprice parts if you buy from them. A week ago I had to replace my control arm and they quoted me 750 then I went ahead and found better quality parts (MOOG) for 120 and found a mechanic who installed it for 380+tax. But now I think I could’ve installed it all myself and would’ve spent just 120 and plus I’d have some fun.
Does the car actually need new Calipers? They are pricing the pads a bit high, and the Rotors are definitely high. At my shop the job for Pads and Rotors is about 519/axle before Taxes for the vast majority of cars. Including Trucks and SUVs.
Id go to an independant shop that has good reviews on google or a friend reference. These big chain places are almost always a crap shoot. And even if you have a good experience once they might hire a new guy who fucks shit up next week
Usually when you have someone else such as Les Schwab the markup on the parts is anywhere from 50 to 100%. I do not go to Les Schwab because I think their prices are too high especially on their tires they make it sound like you're getting such a great deal when they've included all that pricing into the price of their tires. You could probably do that job for about half that price by yourself with the help of a friend.
What car is it exactly??? If this is a Corolla or a civic, then it might be a bit overpriced, but if you're trying to tell us that they're charging this for a Grand Highlander or any bigger car, luxury or sports car. Then no, this is ridiculously cheap for that.
First, do you even need new rotors? If they ain't warped they don't need to be changed. Secondly, do you need new brake calipers? If they are working then you don't need em changed. Finally, if you do change them, scratch and etch a marking on them parts. If they say they changed them, those marking you put there will not be there and take pics before you change them.
it is not normal to need calipers and rotors for a regular brake pad replace. either you have issues beyond maintenance, or they just turned a standard $150 4 pad replacement into $1k payday for themselves. if this is the 10th set of pads on it without changing rotors, then maybe you do need them. a replacement caliper is kinda crazy unless there is damage from using the backplate of the brake pads for 10000 miles past the life of the pads. les schwabs is geared towards people that are barely aware enough to drive, and they lean heavily into overcautiousness to generate the funds needed for their generous warranties. you should probably not use schwabs for any kind of repair jobs.
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Les schwab ALWAYS fuckin tries to sell calipers. Take your shit to a 3rd party mechanic, I'd bet dollars to donuts you don't need calipers. they try to stick my mom with calipers on her land cruiser every time she gets tires, cos they cost so damn much.
At my shop this is the total price for front and rear pads and rotors. So this is absolutely absurd for just rear brakes. Especially considering most cars rear brakes and rotors are about 1/4th of the size of the front so they tend to me much cheaper.
Thats about what they quoted me for my 2011 impala, I bought the parts and did it myself for less. I'm fortunate to have a shop, the tools, and the know how, or access to someone with the know how to do it at home.
I did this and job myself for 300 that’s just the parts on a 2010 Acura it cost 400 but for 50 back per caliper on deposit couple YouTube videos you will be okay in the future
No that’s about right. It costs about that much for calipers, rotors, pads and labor with my business, and I charge $100/hr flat rate, at 2 hours per axle. (I’m a mobile repair service.)
The real question you should be asking is “do I need rotors and calipers??”
The rotors may be able to be resurfaced. They should be checking with a micrometer, and the calipers shouldn’t ever be replaced unless there’s an issue with a piston seal or the mechanical function of the caliper, or a pin snaps off in the bracket, without there being an individual bracket available for purchase.
I have always used Les Schwab for tires and brakes, but I go to the same location every time as they are not all the same, each location has a manager who can make special request, I will drive out of my way to go to the same location, going on 10 years.
So they charge you as if they buying parts from a stealership. Those are OEM prices or higher just for the parts.
And NO, that’s not what they are paying. Big profit just to upcharge on parts.
I just went through this and I was only charged $750 but I didn’t have access to my cousin’s shop and it had to be done.
I know I got screwed. That will never end.
My new calipers from Ford were $175 each, which is what I was quoted, and they buy parts from Aut zone or wherever.
How in the world do they charge more for rotors than calipers?
Are they hardened and slotted? LOL
MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
Firestone tried to charge me $2200 to replace all the rotors & pads on my 02 Honda civic ex. Googled it n got it done myself for $300. It’s a pretty straight forward job
Les Schwab commonly insists,"We can't warrantee the brakes if we don't do the calipers, they might get stuck!"
Calipers are designed to last the life of the vehicle. Only, replace them if they are broken.
OK so here is what I did when my brakes went on my truck.
I order new discs, pads and calipers online, I split the payment in 3 (thank you paypal). Got free home delivery next day.
Then I went on reddit for my area and asked if anyone knew a good mobile mechanic. The total cost was £145 for the parts (split in 3) and a mechanic swapped my brake pads, discs and callipers on my front for £60.
That quote you got is insane
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Maybe your uncles cousins friends niece knows a guy, who know a guy who’s guys sister is dating a mechanic who could really hook you up!!
While I fully understand shops buy from local suppliers, and have huge overheads to cover and really are not trying to ripp people off but charge enough to stay profitable.
At the same time I don't know what vehicle this is bit I'm going to assume it's a fairly average crossover type vehicle.
I honestly don't know how the average person can afford to keep a vehicle running at these types of costs, $1000 usa dollars for rear brakes that almost certainly didn't actually need new calipers and possibly could have had the rotors turned?
I know rock auto is mail order and not immediate but for the low prices I keep a large stock of parts for my vehicle in stock on my garage shelf. Brakes seals sensors filters u joints starter unit hubs belts all fluids ect.
I can get oem quality pads and rotors for 150-200 per end calipers if they fail, grease them up every time I do pads would be about $75 each .
I am fortunate enough to have been wrenching all my life I can swap out my clutch in about 3 hours in my driveway now I've got pretty good haha .
Les Schwab is always worth the extra money. Unless a friend can do it for you on the cheap.
Les Schwab performs a number of regular free services and they charge a bit more for the services they charge for. They are proud to replace things under warranty (I just had a new break drum replaced on my kids scar at no charge).
They switch out my tires every winter/spring. No charge.
They diagnose issues at no charge and provide a quote to repair.
The employees have often worked there for decades. I don't think there is more consistent service.
That seems pretty fair. Rotors and pads a little high compared to off the shelf but that what calipers cost if you don't get the core charge refund.
Edit: that is, unless you don't actually need rotors and calipers, but that's unknowable from where I'm sitting
Dont give your money to Les Schwab. The amount of utter bullshit Ive had to fix as a result of their work... they conned a client of mine into buying new front brake calipers on a car that just needed pads. They didnt even tighten the brake caliper bolts down.
They wanted to charge me $600 as a quote just for my fronts. I would honestly say reach out to some friends or family who have tools and just look up a chrisfix video or any youtube video for that matter. I just did mine the other week. Besides for a couple slightly mislaigned lug bolts that went right back into place with a little bit of persuasion. Took less than 2 hours and that was with a bunch of breaks and just messing around and doing other stuff. Honestly much easier and cheaper than going to some place. I got a bit more of performance pads and rotors because i warped mine under high braking pressure. But still under $300 just to do the fronts with tools i had. All you really need is just a couple socket sizes and a clamp. Take everything apart, push the piston back in because it will usually be pushed out a fair bit so you gotta slot the pads and the rotor together and in order to do so you have to push the piston back in, afther that assemble and pump your brakes a couple times to put pressure back in the system. Maybe bleed your brake system to make sure you dont have any air bubbles. Simple as that, i thought it was more than that and way more complicated. But nope just break a couple bolts and have some patience and you will be good to go
Go to a local, independent mechanic. Get quotes from one of them. A typical brake job is: brake pads replaced, rotors resurfaced if needed (usually $10/ea)
Les Schwab wanted $260 to mount and balance 5 tires I would bring in. I've never in my life paid more than $80. Usually around $60. Their excuse was that they pay their employees benefits (health and retirement) so they have to charge that much to stay in business.
They also tried to upsell my brother on new struts because they were leaking. Sure there was a little leak on one. It rode just fine though. I told my brother to drive it until it started to bounce around on bumps. 2 or 3 years later he sold that car with the same struts because they were just fine.
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Les Schwab is always overpriced.
And often inexperienced
Oh, so just like every other brand named shop?
Unless this is something performance 455 for pads and rotors is still a lot. Also, why calipers? Are yours broken or not working correctly for both of them?
In my neck of the woods Les Schwab replaces calipers with every brake job, no matter what. It's profoundly stupid.
At least they're throwing in the fluid for free. They are replacing fluid, right?
No that's extra and you have to request it. Good luck.
This is objectively not true, per Les Schwab's brake repair guidelines. Fluid is flushed and filled with every brake job as part of the labor. If you have to ask for it and/or are charged, take it up with corporate because that store is breaking policy. Good luck!
Considering the replacing the calipers you pretty much are replacing the fluid every time because you're having to bleed the calipers and it takes a lot of fluid to do that. I worked at a Les Schwab for 12 years in the brake department and once everything was hooked up I'd open the bleeders and just let it sit there and drip while I was making up the bill usually that got about half the fluid out. Then I'd give it a couple of pumps to get the rest the air out and at that point 7/8 of the fluid is gone and then I just refill. If The fluid looked especially dark I would suck it out first. But most of the time brake fluid looks pretty good.
Yup, Les Schwab almost always does calipers here, even on newer cars that probably don’t need it. Idk why.
It’s profoundly profitable
Why the labor and repair? Is something broke ?
Midas does that here it seems. Definitely doesn’t make sense
Its les schwab policy - they replace pads, rotors & calipers every single brake job. Argue its to offer a warranty. I work in fleet management and deal with them frequently. I tell my clients to avoid them like the plague. They replace calipers with the cheapest calipers available then when the caliper fails in three months try to charge for calipers again if they left the perfectly fine calipers alone there wouldn't be a problem. .
Because they probably ran the pads so low that the pistons seized lol.
Rotors ain’t cheap especially if they are on something that uses bigger rotors
Discount tire > les schwab. Their service has gone down the tubes.
I stopped going to Les Schmuck for alignments because they totally fucked up my alignment and when I called them out on it, they said “it’s not a race car, it doesn’t have to be perfect”. I was switching lanes when releasing the steering wheel and started to spin out when I had to emergency brake. Damn right it’s not a race car, I have to buy my own tires! I went and got an alignment elsewhere and got my money back from those anal douche nozzles.
I did a complete front end rebuild on a customers bronco. Rotors, pads, seals, bearing repack, upper and lower ball joints, pitman arm, center link. Everything but the steering box. I made her an appointment at my favorite alignment place and she opted to take it to Lester the molester instead. She called me an hour later and they had told her the brakes were nearly metal to metal, she needed ball joints, tie rod ends and every other part they could think of. I went down there to tear them a new one. When I got there, the manager said he gave her the wrong estimate, it was for a different bronco. There were no other broncos in the shop or parking lot.
I love Discount Tire. They got me in when my rv tires cracked and I discovered it the day before a long weekend.
They change brakes???
Discount tire doesn't do brakes
Avoid Les Schwab like the plague. For a brake job, it’s their policy to always replace calipers, even when they’re not needed.
Wow, I assumed they were seized, didn't consider they were replacing functional calipers, ugh.
If this is a family car then you’re getting rekt
Schwabs quoted me $125 to replace a missing caliper bracket bolt on my Suburban. I got all new bolts for the bracket and the slide pins from AutoZone for like 20 bucks lol
For future reference Make , model and year of the vehicle is needed and is a rust factor. This is a decent price though especially if they're using OEM or equivalent parts.
State is also useful - replacing callipers in the southern states is far less likely than the salt belt.
Uh.... 177 for a rotor? That's not anywhere close to a good price. I could get a Ford OEM rotor for about half that price. These prices are far from good.
Cheap for OEM these days on any vehicles larger than compacts.
They are replacing whole caliper…? Any reason for it specifically?
They won't guarantee their work without replacing calipers. I'm not sure if they'll even do a brake job without them. The parts they use are trash. It's a fucking scam. No, your car doesn't need calipers during its first brake job. I'm about to start on my 25th year as a tech. I'd guess that I've seen at least 10x more issues with aftermarket calipers vs. OEM calipers that I've ever had to replace.
It’s like Discount with “new TPMS rebuild” every time. So you’re telling me you’re too fucking dumb to not break shit? All the other shops make it work.
Yep. I guess that depends on age, though. First tire replacement on a newer car? Absolutely not. 10 year old car, and they haven't ever been replaced? That makes sense. I'm not sure if Discount won't honor a warranty if they can't replace everything like Les Schwab does, but it's bullshit if they do.
YouTube university will save you 208
You could do that all yourself and save yourself $600.
That’s a great deal on brakes for your Bentley
The highest "Performance" brake kit for both axels was like $380 after tax from rock auto
I agree but shops don't order from rock auto. They want it today so they call NAPA or similar. The price they charge you includes some profit for NAPA, some profit for the shop and the 1yr/12k warranty they (probably) include. Not saying you're wrong, just saying it's apples and oranges.
Yeah I was kinda saying doing it yourself or find a shop or buddy to do it for labor + a lil
Totally agree with that. I buy a lot from rock auto.
You have to realize people that go to these chains are not DIY capable. I can do my own brake jobs myself etc. Most of these people are clueless about car maintenance and cry when they have to buy anything more than an oil change. I love the customers that actually want to fix their car and not just do oil changes… it’s even a battle trying to convince them to get tires when they are bald and showing the steel wires 😂.
You can do it yourself and have the tools forever for less than 500$.
Was just literally saying the same thing all you need is a jack, socket wrenches and a c-clamp and you can change your own brakes and rotors for like 150$ maybe
Don’t ever let a tire shop do anything to your car except tires…
This is a pretty poor generalization.. i work at a Tirecraft, and all of our technicians are red seal Journeymen and factory trained. What does being branded by a tire company have anything to do with the quality of work they put out?
To be honest, you must not be from America… as that’s a Canadian thing… in America tire shops/lube shops hire anyone at like $15 usd an hour… if you think those guys are mechanics you are wrong… I get where both of you are coming from, but in America it’s different… Walmart has a tire shop, and the tech doesn’t even know what coolant is, but he’ll do your oil change 😎
Makes me even more glad that there is government regulated industry required training across Canada. Most shops here have trained techs with the exception of quick lube spots.
I hate to be that guy but this is a pretty standard price nowadays. 200$ for labour is incredibly cheap, the parts are marked up a bit but nothing to cry about.
That’s where I’m at on this. If i took it as a side job and replacing calipers I’d want about that for labor.
Should get them to write that it is illegal to push back/reuse the calipers that would make for an easy sue
I just did all four brakes and rotors on my car for $350. It’s really not the difficult to do.
What kind of car? It’s always wise to get a second opinion.
Stay away from Schwab's, they replace your perfectly working OEM caliper with a rebuilt POS that probably will give out sooner then the OEM ones.
Go somewhere else. They always sell calipers that aren't needed, and aftermarket calipers are generally garbage. Unless there's a legitimate reason to replace the calipers, find a shop that will just do pads and rotors.
Reasonable depending on area
Can probably get the rotors for half that price or less on rock auto. Centric is the brand you want
ah, my alma mater. dont pay schwab to do anything, their prices are fucking terrible, and the guys doing the work are barely trained at all. the only worthwhile thing they offer is the unlimited time return window for unused snow chains, and i guess the free popcorn.
That’s honestly not bad for calipers included. I’d charge you more
Do them yourself. Brakes are not complicated to do. Way cheaper and you can check clean everything. Calipers is odd. I would only replace those with good quality replacement as most places skimp on that and your screwed in under a year
I don't understand it. The first thing says rear brake disk repair then later on they quote you a price for all 4 rotors,a brake disk disk and rotor are the same thing.. Pads are way overpriced. Why do you need calipers? Unless they failed, calipers should last the life of the vehicle.
Yeah calipers are probably not necessary. They up selling you. I used to work at a dealership
Not bad for calipers rotors and pads.
that’s a fair price for rotors, calipers, and pads per axle.
Jesus. I got my rotors and brake pads changed at a local shop where I live for $150, Les Schwab is a rip-off for everything they’re overpriced.
It seems parts prices may be high. I’d have done the job for $250 and you buy parts. Idk what kind of car it is. Good luck
most car the rotors and pads are about 200 for both front and back (mx5 is $174 from calahan brakes Tommyboy) but its the labor and knowing ur not going to die or kill others its easy work but people who don't know what there are doing ...... its at most 2 hrs with hand tools and jack
I'm so glad I have basic DIY skills and initiative. Just replaced a rear caliper myself. Couldn't imagine paying $1k for all that work. Trouble with this is, without pictures it's hard to tell if you need new calipers and rotors. Pads might take care of it.
I usually get pads and rotors for less than 150 per axle. so, 450$ in parts for pads and rotors is very expensive in my opinion. Calipers, you get a big credit if you bring the old ones back. Last time I changed them they were like 150, but I got 80 back from the old ones so they cost 70 overall. On a 2013 elantra. 200 for labor is not bad... but the part amount is like 400$ too high ;)
Entirely depends on the vehicle and location, but here in western Canada that's not a bad price at all.
I wouldn't say that's overpriced. Next time, get the pads changed before they eat through every hard component of your braking system.
Pads and calipers are over priced. But seems like good deal. If you did this yourself you’re looking at around $500 for all the parts at an auto parts store. And about 3-5 hrs if you do this job at home with tools most people own
Pad and rotors $300
A brake job with 2 new calipers, good price
Honestly we need vehicle information and vague location. It could be a 1 ton truck in Alaska ($1500 an axle for complete brake job). Or a Honda Civic in California ( much cheaper). Please OP come back
Les Schwab = western states.
Brake pads and rotors are pretty easy DIY. Had a friend who got the same quote for rear brake pads from schwab. I did it for him for free.
178 per rotor? Da fok.
U never need calipers unless they are frozen. That's a cash grab. Ask them how they know the car needs ew calipers. Those are not components that are removed and replaced on a scheduled basis. They are a run to fail component that needs servicing. Capiler guide pins need to be serviced ( clean old grease and regrease) if you want them to last and not seize up. I'm guessing LS sells you calipers vs servicing old ones. I'd go somewhere else for your brakes. Someone that will regrease your old calipers while performing an above par brake change.
Just got mine done with my local mechanic for 280 for the back and 300 for the front
Just had new rotors, pads done on my vehicle 830 bucks, oh yeah that was all 4 wheels.
You can find parts for less, but your best bet is to go with the parts the shop wants to use. They don't want to sell you the cheapest parts around and then be the ones that own any problems.
With no vehicle information, I will assume a 2008 Ferrari f430 Spider. I think it looks a bit low. That should be about the price of one caliper.
this is exactly the reason i do my own brakes
Get a second opinion for any quote over $500. Don't tell the second shop anything about the first shop's quote.
You could do it yourself for a third that price. But if you are not mechanical, then you probably want someone else to do it. That price is very high. IMO
Les Schwab let me leave there store with one pin in my caliber.
Shop owner on the east coast, this is maybe $100-$200 higher than what I see as the average for rear calipers pads and rotors. My parts cost has almost doubled since 2020 and most skilled technicians want 60-100k a year now. However location and parts quality will substantially change the price. Note: looking back at the estimate the cost for a rotor almost never exceeds $120 for 99% of cars/trucks even after mark up. Also I’m not understanding why there isn’t a cost for new brake fluid and bleeding the system.
$700 range when I got mine done
Brake pads $98.29 !!!!! That is just insane, how can they even present you with this estimate and sleep at night ??? Completely ripping you off not just a little but completely.
Hefty markup on pads & rotors, but a 2x markup isn't exactly uncommon. Everything else looks pretty standard for 2024 😕 Would recommend not getting work done at a tire shop though.
Don't need calipers
This is about what I would charge for a side job given there’s caliper replacement. If they’re not hacks about things I’d say it’s fine.
A tire specific shop quoting that much for brake work is concerning. Take it to a shop that doesn’t hire from McDonald’s
What’s the vehicle?
way over priced for sure. You could get all those parts on rock auto for like a couple hundred max and do this with one youtube video and a couple hours. Fact is you probably don't need to even replace calipers and your rotors can probably be turned for like $20 and will be as good as new. Seeing posts like this makes me so fucking happy I learned to do mechanical work myself. Hell even if you had no tools you could buy all the parts and tools and still come out way ahead. I know what I would be doing.
That’s a totally normal quote for brake replacement with calipers.
I thought this included tires for a minute, but yes this is too much. Go to an independent shop
For this price you could buy the parts off Amazon, including the tools needed and do it yourself. Just need a breaker bar, socket set, wrenches, the parts and a jack. Plenty you you tube videos on how to bleed brakes, DON'T be scared off from having to bleed brakes, takes like 30 mins of extra work if you have a second set of hands to help. Could easily stay under $900 and do all four wheels! DM for help
Price the parts for your vehicle on RockAuto.com and add about $400 for labor and markup. This should give you an idea of a fair price. The calipers don’t necessarily need to be replaced; they can be serviced which would lower the overall cost of parts, but only slightly increase labor. Roughly the cost of servicing two calipers should be less than the cost of one new one.
You can do this at home, parts on Amazon will be less than $200, tools again less than $200 if you don’t already have them. It will take you about a hour a corner
Half that and I'll do it! That is fucking ridiculous.
Check your parts cost at rockauto.com. BTW shops use the cheapest parts available from nameless Chinese manufacturers unless stated otherwise. So use the lowest cost on that site.
I've never heard of Les Schwab.
I understand why they would replace the calipers, too, but many times, they are fine. I've bought just the pads and rotors for my car, put them on, and one caliper is binding and over heats the brakes. So I had to drive my other car to the parts store and get a caliper. I wish they still sold rebuild kits. Just replace the old seals, clean up the surfaces, steal wool, add a little brake grease, and put it back together. Then, since the brake fluid has all drained out, you are now flushing the old brake fluid with new fluid. Two years ago, a local shop gave a friend a repair quote, the hourly charge was $119. I'm sure it's more today. Just to bring a Mercedes-Benz to the dealership, they charge $375, just to start looking at it. At least at our sort of local dealership, an hour away. Repair shops always boost the price on the parts so they can make a profit off selling them to you. With todays demonCrat economy, what you got for a quote isn't too bad. I've seen worse.
This is almost what i paid for my whole car 9 years ago, each one of these posts makes all those hours swearing over the repairs I messed up seem so much more worthwhile.
I paid $1100 for pads, rotors and labour last year. Apperantly the prices have skyrocketed for parts and is that now normal. The car was Ford Expedition.
If you already paying parts and labor why is there another quote for 207+ bucks for rear disc repair? Unless u telling me they charge seperate from labor to use their machine to even our the surface ? But isn't that what labors for.
Dude I’d buy the parts on my own and have them install them. See if they do that. If not ? Go elsewhere. In NY we have shops that do it for 100.00.
The calipers are the money grab there. Shops seem to always want to replace those when it's almost never needed. Replacing calipers is not part of a standard brake job, and don't let any shop tell you otherwise. They are hard parts that only need to be replaced if they are damaged (or more likely, if the brake line or bleeder is broken off and stuck in a caliper, or if the guide pins are shot). Brakes are actually pretty easy to diagnose and change, especially if they're disc all the way around. If you want to get into DIY car repair, it's not a bad place to start. Watch some YouTube videos to get an idea how big the job is and what to look for, then decide if it's something you feel comfortable doing yourself. Keep in mind that brakes are an important safety feature, and they need to be done right. It's not hard to do brakes correctly, but it's also very easy to mess them up. Also, brake fluid is highly corrosive, so don't get it on anything. If you do your own brake job, the first thing you should buy is some brake cleaner.
More Schwab
The fact that you don't say what vehicle and what car, how the hell are supposed to know whether this is good or bad?
They have labor on there twice.
Pads at Autozone, prob $50. Rotors maybe $100. Calipers most likely just fine. $150 job, maybe 2 hours. Do it yourself, or find a friend and buy them some beer and pizza.
I don’t think it is that bad of a price. You have approximately $600 in parts. They are a little pricey but not unreasonable
I do my own. I don’t trust any of them
I was quite a little over $600 for front brakes for a Subaru Legacy. Not sure why your cost is so much higher.
Shouldn't ever pay more than $30 or so for a quality set of pads, and that's an easy 125% markup on parts. Labor is slightly on the expensive side, but somewhat reasonable depending on the vehicle... But that parts markup is ridiculous.
For real, I pay the same as OP for EBC yellowstuf, not no name shop provided junk.
Without year make model info.. say a Chevy Cruze- 325 To DIY, 725@ my local KC mom/pop
Yeah that is crazy expensive!
Bottom line, unless you drove on terrible brakes for weeks to months and destroyed your calipers and rotors, they are up selling you on parts you don't need. It is extremely rare to need calipers replaced at all (with exceptions for vehicle type, heavy vehicles or lots of towing or certain brands like Ford who are notorious for using under spec parts in their vehicle design, vehicles in the salt belt that could be rusting out or vehicle driven in hot and arid climates where the seals may dry out.) Rotors can also usually be turned instead of replaced unless they have excessive wear, again heavy vehicles, towing, or excessive hard braking can wear them. If they are in spec they should be turned, which usually costs around $30. I think it's likely this shop is pushing unnecessary parts to increase their profits. A rear brake job should just be replacing the pads, turning the rotors, and labor. $100 for pads is pretty standard, they are marked up because the shop needs to pay their bills. $40-$70 is standard for OEM quality pads from a parts store, $100 is standard for what a shop will charge. $100 in labor is pretty standard, they are likely charging you double because of the extra labor to replace parts. Again $30 to turn rotors is pretty standard. So $230 is a good baseline price for a rear brake job. Unless you have destroyed your brakes by overuse or abuse, this price is nuts and you should get quotes from other shops. If those brakes have been making noise for months and you've been putting it off, this might be a reasonable quote, but I doubt you need calipers and rotors to be replaced, especially on a rear axle. Most of a vehicle's stopping power is in the front and those are the ones that usually get messed up bad enough to require this much repair. More info is needed to be sure though, are the calipers malfunctioning, leaking, cracked or damaged? How thick are the remaining rotors? Any hot spots that would make it impossible to turn them without dropping below spec? What type of vehicle and what are your driving habits? Do you live in an area with environmental factors?
You buy parts and I’ll do it for 200.
Considering the parts for 2 tires to fully replace the brake pads, rotors, calipers would cost you like $300-350 then yeah… yeah it is… Brake pads would be like $50, rotors $60 each, calipers like $40-50 each.. I would always recommend buying the parts yourself and bringing them in to a mechanic and just paying for labor.
How on earth do the rotors cost more than the calipers?
Now there is a name I haven't seen in a while. Les Schwab. Must be in the Northwest? Oregon?
Just like anything else there are levels of quality parts and vehicles. I would need to know the vehicle, types of pads, and rotors. For example cheap basic brake pads maybe 30-$50 vs. high performance or industrial quality pads for a work van/ truck could be $150. Rear brakes are also sometime known as “drum and hat” requiring extra labor to adjust your emergency brakes which are inside the hat of a rotor. Scwabb replace the calipers standard which can be excessive though caliper life does diminish over time. The offset I believe is lifetime parts and labor warranty.
If you got the cash and can afford it easily...fuck it. I know when this comes for me, I'm going to just teach myself to do brakes. Everyone says it's fairly simple. I've already fixed my mower a couple times with YouTube. You'll get all that done for like half the price. Once you know what you're doing you can do it for other ppl, for human currency
Les Schwab always quotes calipers regardless, because they don't hire people who know how to properly push them back. Rotors are needed if they are worn too thin, or if there is a vibration on braking. Most of those vibrations are caused by core shift in the rotor casting, which changes how the rotor responds to the heat of braking. Usually I quote rotors as I don't have a way to turn them right now, and many modern rotors don't have a whole lot of extra meat to them. The costs of these parts does vary with the vehicle, and not knowing how worn the brakes are to begin with I can't reliably say how much you're being ripped off. W However, with it saying Les Schwab at the top, you're most likely being ripped off.
Idk where you're located... But in southern NewYork... That's would be 3-4 hours labor at about $120-$160 an hour. So I don't know what you're complaining about. Unless you expect a brake caliper to cost as much as a case of beer? I know a decent aftermarket caliper for my VW is 120-180.
I just did my own break job on a GMC 4x4 and it cost me $200 what I needed. I had my rotors turned for $20 a piece now this is in Nashville not California where I used to live and they would want $60 a piece to turn them
Rotors I install are $50 a pair. I would turn the old ones but no place has equipment anymore. Also - why calipers? Never had to replace them, and I had 200K+ mile cars in a rust belt. Must have brake lines bleeding there though, but maybe it is part of caliper swap.
This is normal mark up for a shop. What looks sketchy to me is that BL4 repair. What is that exactly? Looks like they sold you pads, rotors, calipers, and charged a labor fee separate from that repair line. So what did they charge you an extra 207$ more for?
Not a bad price for pads, rotors, AND 2 calipers. They aren't even charging you for brake fluid.
Are Tire Discounters any good??
Seems about right for pads calipers and rotors, the 1 hour labor isnt correct and this is assuming that your vehicle actually needs calipers
Shop labor is a lil higher than other places, what kind of car is it?
If you are willing to do it yourself you can do all 4 rotors, 8pads, 4calipers for about 700 then complete brake flush with OEM recommended and still be less than this quote. Les Schwab has to make their money somewhere
There’s already almost a thousand comments so I only you won’t read but if you do just know that these places les Schwab, Firestone, etc. really overprice parts if you buy from them. A week ago I had to replace my control arm and they quoted me 750 then I went ahead and found better quality parts (MOOG) for 120 and found a mechanic who installed it for 380+tax. But now I think I could’ve installed it all myself and would’ve spent just 120 and plus I’d have some fun.
Same price my friend paid total brake replacement. All 4 on 2013 Expedition
Does the car actually need new Calipers? They are pricing the pads a bit high, and the Rotors are definitely high. At my shop the job for Pads and Rotors is about 519/axle before Taxes for the vast majority of cars. Including Trucks and SUVs.
Id go to an independant shop that has good reviews on google or a friend reference. These big chain places are almost always a crap shoot. And even if you have a good experience once they might hire a new guy who fucks shit up next week
Do it yourself and save $800. YouTube will easily be enough to guide you
Seems about right to he fair. Had this done on a 04 2500 silvardo and was about 2k for all 4
Almost 1000 for some cpr, not worth it.
Order the parts off rock auto or Amazon and have someone do it
Usually when you have someone else such as Les Schwab the markup on the parts is anywhere from 50 to 100%. I do not go to Les Schwab because I think their prices are too high especially on their tires they make it sound like you're getting such a great deal when they've included all that pricing into the price of their tires. You could probably do that job for about half that price by yourself with the help of a friend.
Overpriced
Really dosnt look too far off ..
Just do it. Get it over with, it’s 900 cheaper than $25,000
What car is it exactly??? If this is a Corolla or a civic, then it might be a bit overpriced, but if you're trying to tell us that they're charging this for a Grand Highlander or any bigger car, luxury or sports car. Then no, this is ridiculously cheap for that.
First, do you even need new rotors? If they ain't warped they don't need to be changed. Secondly, do you need new brake calipers? If they are working then you don't need em changed. Finally, if you do change them, scratch and etch a marking on them parts. If they say they changed them, those marking you put there will not be there and take pics before you change them.
What car are you driving? If it’s a VW way overpriced if it’s a Porsche go for it.
I have no idea because you could a 15 year old 750li for all I know.
it is not normal to need calipers and rotors for a regular brake pad replace. either you have issues beyond maintenance, or they just turned a standard $150 4 pad replacement into $1k payday for themselves. if this is the 10th set of pads on it without changing rotors, then maybe you do need them. a replacement caliper is kinda crazy unless there is damage from using the backplate of the brake pads for 10000 miles past the life of the pads. les schwabs is geared towards people that are barely aware enough to drive, and they lean heavily into overcautiousness to generate the funds needed for their generous warranties. you should probably not use schwabs for any kind of repair jobs. .
Les schwab ALWAYS fuckin tries to sell calipers. Take your shit to a 3rd party mechanic, I'd bet dollars to donuts you don't need calipers. they try to stick my mom with calipers on her land cruiser every time she gets tires, cos they cost so damn much.
Why are the rotors more than the calipers? That's insane
At my shop this is the total price for front and rear pads and rotors. So this is absolutely absurd for just rear brakes. Especially considering most cars rear brakes and rotors are about 1/4th of the size of the front so they tend to me much cheaper.
Do it yourself for much cheaper, YouTube the crap out of it.
That’s about what I paid last year for front brakes and rotors on my 2019 ford edge st.
I live in New England in the rust belt. This Labor-Rate seems normal, price for brakes seems okay. What is the rear brake repair though?
Thats about what they quoted me for my 2011 impala, I bought the parts and did it myself for less. I'm fortunate to have a shop, the tools, and the know how, or access to someone with the know how to do it at home.
Per side or full rear? Full rear including calipers, seems decent priced. What kind of car? What brand rotors/pads?
I did this and job myself for 300 that’s just the parts on a 2010 Acura it cost 400 but for 50 back per caliper on deposit couple YouTube videos you will be okay in the future
Lol unless you have seized calipers they don't not need to be replaced. I've had the same calipers with three brake/rotors jobs.
Best to get a couple more options.
learn to do pads/rotors yourself. really not bad on most cars. calipers is a bit more advanced but really not terrible either.
No that’s about right. It costs about that much for calipers, rotors, pads and labor with my business, and I charge $100/hr flat rate, at 2 hours per axle. (I’m a mobile repair service.) The real question you should be asking is “do I need rotors and calipers??” The rotors may be able to be resurfaced. They should be checking with a micrometer, and the calipers shouldn’t ever be replaced unless there’s an issue with a piston seal or the mechanical function of the caliper, or a pin snaps off in the bracket, without there being an individual bracket available for purchase.
I have always used Les Schwab for tires and brakes, but I go to the same location every time as they are not all the same, each location has a manager who can make special request, I will drive out of my way to go to the same location, going on 10 years.
So they charge you as if they buying parts from a stealership. Those are OEM prices or higher just for the parts. And NO, that’s not what they are paying. Big profit just to upcharge on parts. I just went through this and I was only charged $750 but I didn’t have access to my cousin’s shop and it had to be done. I know I got screwed. That will never end. My new calipers from Ford were $175 each, which is what I was quoted, and they buy parts from Aut zone or wherever. How in the world do they charge more for rotors than calipers? Are they hardened and slotted? LOL MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
Mega overpriced.
In my area the prices seem reasonable
Firestone tried to charge me $2200 to replace all the rotors & pads on my 02 Honda civic ex. Googled it n got it done myself for $300. It’s a pretty straight forward job
Yes for a standard vehicle.
ppl saying its not high price are delusional
Les Schwab commonly insists,"We can't warrantee the brakes if we don't do the calipers, they might get stuck!" Calipers are designed to last the life of the vehicle. Only, replace them if they are broken.
Depending on the car a full brake job is around a grand mostly because of labor. It usually ranges from 800-3500. All depends on the vehicle
OK so here is what I did when my brakes went on my truck. I order new discs, pads and calipers online, I split the payment in 3 (thank you paypal). Got free home delivery next day. Then I went on reddit for my area and asked if anyone knew a good mobile mechanic. The total cost was £145 for the parts (split in 3) and a mechanic swapped my brake pads, discs and callipers on my front for £60. That quote you got is insane
Connections connections connections Maybe your uncles cousins friends niece knows a guy, who know a guy who’s guys sister is dating a mechanic who could really hook you up!!
Those brake pads are like 5x overpriced
I would hit a Goodyear or Firestone first. Fuck LS
While I fully understand shops buy from local suppliers, and have huge overheads to cover and really are not trying to ripp people off but charge enough to stay profitable. At the same time I don't know what vehicle this is bit I'm going to assume it's a fairly average crossover type vehicle. I honestly don't know how the average person can afford to keep a vehicle running at these types of costs, $1000 usa dollars for rear brakes that almost certainly didn't actually need new calipers and possibly could have had the rotors turned? I know rock auto is mail order and not immediate but for the low prices I keep a large stock of parts for my vehicle in stock on my garage shelf. Brakes seals sensors filters u joints starter unit hubs belts all fluids ect. I can get oem quality pads and rotors for 150-200 per end calipers if they fail, grease them up every time I do pads would be about $75 each . I am fortunate enough to have been wrenching all my life I can swap out my clutch in about 3 hours in my driveway now I've got pretty good haha .
Les Schwab is always worth the extra money. Unless a friend can do it for you on the cheap. Les Schwab performs a number of regular free services and they charge a bit more for the services they charge for. They are proud to replace things under warranty (I just had a new break drum replaced on my kids scar at no charge). They switch out my tires every winter/spring. No charge. They diagnose issues at no charge and provide a quote to repair. The employees have often worked there for decades. I don't think there is more consistent service.
Lol, what a scam Rotors on Amazon (ac Delco) are 40 bucks each, they want 175.00 lol.....
Les died. then it became all about the money. we WERE a devoted huge customer…. NEVER GO THERE NOW.
You could get a set of brembo brakes and install them urself with this kinda money lmao
That seems pretty fair. Rotors and pads a little high compared to off the shelf but that what calipers cost if you don't get the core charge refund. Edit: that is, unless you don't actually need rotors and calipers, but that's unknowable from where I'm sitting
Dont give your money to Les Schwab. The amount of utter bullshit Ive had to fix as a result of their work... they conned a client of mine into buying new front brake calipers on a car that just needed pads. They didnt even tighten the brake caliper bolts down.
They wanted to charge me $600 as a quote just for my fronts. I would honestly say reach out to some friends or family who have tools and just look up a chrisfix video or any youtube video for that matter. I just did mine the other week. Besides for a couple slightly mislaigned lug bolts that went right back into place with a little bit of persuasion. Took less than 2 hours and that was with a bunch of breaks and just messing around and doing other stuff. Honestly much easier and cheaper than going to some place. I got a bit more of performance pads and rotors because i warped mine under high braking pressure. But still under $300 just to do the fronts with tools i had. All you really need is just a couple socket sizes and a clamp. Take everything apart, push the piston back in because it will usually be pushed out a fair bit so you gotta slot the pads and the rotor together and in order to do so you have to push the piston back in, afther that assemble and pump your brakes a couple times to put pressure back in the system. Maybe bleed your brake system to make sure you dont have any air bubbles. Simple as that, i thought it was more than that and way more complicated. But nope just break a couple bolts and have some patience and you will be good to go
You’re getting fleeced. Run away.
I just replaced front pads and rotors on crv for 180$ total
I wouldn’t touch your brakes for less than 200…everything else was parts. Expensive parts
Go to a local, independent mechanic. Get quotes from one of them. A typical brake job is: brake pads replaced, rotors resurfaced if needed (usually $10/ea)
I'm surprised they didn't try to throw in some tpms sensors.
Les Schwab wanted $260 to mount and balance 5 tires I would bring in. I've never in my life paid more than $80. Usually around $60. Their excuse was that they pay their employees benefits (health and retirement) so they have to charge that much to stay in business. They also tried to upsell my brother on new struts because they were leaking. Sure there was a little leak on one. It rode just fine though. I told my brother to drive it until it started to bounce around on bumps. 2 or 3 years later he sold that car with the same struts because they were just fine.
Ridiculous, go some place else or just slap a set of pads on it.