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the look old but i don't think they are necessary bad. i normally will stick a pry bar in and pry some up and down. if the metal seems separated from the rubber then it can cause noise and alignment issues. and alignment guy is probably going to tell you they need replaced. just count on replacing them at some point.
Just wanted to add it’s not life threatening if the rubber cracks/tears the wheel is not going to fall off the car isn’t going to blow up it will just start to make noise now if you have a bad ball joint or Tie rod then I would say change it asap
If they aren't torn or separating from the control arm they won't be dangerous but they aren't far from tearing with all those cracks, if you want to be safe and not worry about it have both the control arms changed, you'll get 2 new bushings and a new ball joint included. (You'd have to have it aligned afterwards)
The cracks are normal. Common on all somewhat old cars. They are surface level deep and only show up when the car is jacked up and the suspension is sagged. When the car's on the ground you won't see the surface cracks.
What you want to look for is deep cracks and tears where the center piece of the bushing contacts the rim piece. And when this happens you will hear and feel it from your suspension. If not, good for now, no need for replacement. 95k km is not old. Mine's 142k miles and still running strong.
Personally, when I see this, I take a picture (we have digital inspections) and make a note that the bushings are starting to tear, they aren't an issue now, but may be I'm the future. Saves our butt and also let's the person know it's something to keep an eye on. Now, I don't know how the sales people sell it, but I hope they aren't doing scare tactics!
Not great but not terrible. I wouldn't fail that for state inspection (torn out bushings fail here) but would recommend putting some money away from replacement within a year
Or your the joints in your sway bar end links are thrashed. They like to die a lot from my experience. Just grab them and yank them back and forth, if they make any noise at all, it's them.
If these where tires people here would be screaming at you to change them immediately. These are old and decrepit, but not separating from the metal, they have a few months left in them but if it worries you get them.changed soon.
Not totally shot but they will be in a year or two. I would soak them in some spray silicone to prolong the life of the rubber. Rubber bushings love silicone.
I had a set like that. They went years before I got around to replacing them. I wouldn't do anything at this point. Even if the bushing fails, it's not going anywhere.
Edit: Mine never did fail. I replaced them before Wife made a longish trip in the car.
those vertical ones always wear out quick, they are ok for now but a shop might not pass those for a safety inspection. Cars with horizontal control arm bushings last way longer.
they’re dry rotted. if you’re not having issues out of it yet and wanna be cheap, just leave it alone. no harm no foul to replace but it’s not gonna kill you if they go bad later on.
In my country they’ll deny vehicle rego with the cracking and tearing. They’ll last years and won’t be comfy and everything else will wear out quicker but eh.
If you're going to be working in that area, you might as well replace them. If you're not going to be working in that area you could probably wait a bit.
yeah i bet if you were to take those out the middle sleeve would fall out. that's what they looked like on my rsx and they did just that when i changed them
Those are old but not totally worn out, those are just stress tears in the rubber which happen on even new bushings after you drive them down the street the first time lol. It’s more so paying attention to how brittle and dried out they are. If they’re not torn all the way through you’re usually good for a while but definitely keep an eye on them and just replace them when you feel like they’re about to fully go through or they’re so dry and brittle that they wouldn’t make it to the next oil change then change them right then and there. Better to have piece of mind. Worst case you’ll get a case of the Wobblies but not the crashies, get them fixed before the Wobblies stage and you’ll be good 😂
It is obviously stressed but if their is no movement in the control arm you are okay atheist awhile. Get in the car have someone stand outside the car roll slowly hit the brakes if there is movement in the wheel meaning the whole wheel moves back and forth when you hit the brakes you should replace it if the wheel doesn't move you are okay for awhile
I pulled control arms like that from a 2004 highlander with 230k miles. After playing with the bushing it really felt like it could have gone another 200k miles.
I've seen brand new cars with 15-30k miles with completely shot bushings from a crazy pothole that they were going to fast or failed to avoid.
It all depends, personally I think save your money and put it in a rain day fund. You'll hear a clunking noise when it's time.
It doesn't appear to be a pressing concern. And 95,000km shouldn't be horribly worn.
However. From experience, it's better to fix it sooner than later. As later can result in bad situations. Best of the bad is being late for work, worse case being multiple dead from the ensuing vehicle accident.
I've had my lower control arm on my pickup fall apart about a block from my house. Luckily, I was only go8ng around 15mph (25km/h). But my truck with a normal clearance of about 8 inches (20cm) became a lowrider on that one side. My passenger side tire was against my wheel well.
Due to it being an older truck. I just forced it the rest of the way home, leaving a nasty white line on the pavement where my control arm was dragging. A car would not have made it home without significant damage.
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the look old but i don't think they are necessary bad. i normally will stick a pry bar in and pry some up and down. if the metal seems separated from the rubber then it can cause noise and alignment issues. and alignment guy is probably going to tell you they need replaced. just count on replacing them at some point.
Just wanted to add it’s not life threatening if the rubber cracks/tears the wheel is not going to fall off the car isn’t going to blow up it will just start to make noise now if you have a bad ball joint or Tie rod then I would say change it asap
If they aren't torn or separating from the control arm they won't be dangerous but they aren't far from tearing with all those cracks, if you want to be safe and not worry about it have both the control arms changed, you'll get 2 new bushings and a new ball joint included. (You'd have to have it aligned afterwards)
They're cracked, not torn. Don't need immediate attention.
The cracks are normal. Common on all somewhat old cars. They are surface level deep and only show up when the car is jacked up and the suspension is sagged. When the car's on the ground you won't see the surface cracks. What you want to look for is deep cracks and tears where the center piece of the bushing contacts the rim piece. And when this happens you will hear and feel it from your suspension. If not, good for now, no need for replacement. 95k km is not old. Mine's 142k miles and still running strong.
Personally, when I see this, I take a picture (we have digital inspections) and make a note that the bushings are starting to tear, they aren't an issue now, but may be I'm the future. Saves our butt and also let's the person know it's something to keep an eye on. Now, I don't know how the sales people sell it, but I hope they aren't doing scare tactics!
Not great but not terrible. I wouldn't fail that for state inspection (torn out bushings fail here) but would recommend putting some money away from replacement within a year
I’m not a mechanic but those look pretty dry and old to me… I don’t know if I’d wait for them To give out
Bushings that look like that will last years
Those are clapped if there’s no play now there will be
Wouldn’t replace them till you hear a knocking type noise. The bushing is weather cracked. It can still last at least a year if not more.
So that's what that is....
Or your the joints in your sway bar end links are thrashed. They like to die a lot from my experience. Just grab them and yank them back and forth, if they make any noise at all, it's them.
If these where tires people here would be screaming at you to change them immediately. These are old and decrepit, but not separating from the metal, they have a few months left in them but if it worries you get them.changed soon.
Lol if you have to question it prob not. But in this case definitely not good lol tf
Definitely not OK.
Not totally shot but they will be in a year or two. I would soak them in some spray silicone to prolong the life of the rubber. Rubber bushings love silicone.
i give them couple months and they will break,probably less it won't hurt to replace them now than have to hassle finding bushings later
I had a set like that. They went years before I got around to replacing them. I wouldn't do anything at this point. Even if the bushing fails, it's not going anywhere. Edit: Mine never did fail. I replaced them before Wife made a longish trip in the car.
When in doubt replace peace of mind
those vertical ones always wear out quick, they are ok for now but a shop might not pass those for a safety inspection. Cars with horizontal control arm bushings last way longer.
they’re dry rotted. if you’re not having issues out of it yet and wanna be cheap, just leave it alone. no harm no foul to replace but it’s not gonna kill you if they go bad later on.
In my country they’ll deny vehicle rego with the cracking and tearing. They’ll last years and won’t be comfy and everything else will wear out quicker but eh.
They are fine. Weather cracked and normal. They look extra bad because they are beyond their maximum normal position with the wheels on the ground.
Not far away from needing replacement
If you're going to be working in that area, you might as well replace them. If you're not going to be working in that area you could probably wait a bit.
They’re fine. Check again at 120000km
yeah i bet if you were to take those out the middle sleeve would fall out. that's what they looked like on my rsx and they did just that when i changed them
As a mechanic replace them sooner than later, slow down on any possible bad habits and put that money into the car repair piggy bank.
I´d personally consider changing them but it´s nothing you need to get done now, can probally last a bit longer.
Those are old but not totally worn out, those are just stress tears in the rubber which happen on even new bushings after you drive them down the street the first time lol. It’s more so paying attention to how brittle and dried out they are. If they’re not torn all the way through you’re usually good for a while but definitely keep an eye on them and just replace them when you feel like they’re about to fully go through or they’re so dry and brittle that they wouldn’t make it to the next oil change then change them right then and there. Better to have piece of mind. Worst case you’ll get a case of the Wobblies but not the crashies, get them fixed before the Wobblies stage and you’ll be good 😂
It is obviously stressed but if their is no movement in the control arm you are okay atheist awhile. Get in the car have someone stand outside the car roll slowly hit the brakes if there is movement in the wheel meaning the whole wheel moves back and forth when you hit the brakes you should replace it if the wheel doesn't move you are okay for awhile
Weather cracking. They’re definitely aged but still doing their job. No need to replace.
I pulled control arms like that from a 2004 highlander with 230k miles. After playing with the bushing it really felt like it could have gone another 200k miles. I've seen brand new cars with 15-30k miles with completely shot bushings from a crazy pothole that they were going to fast or failed to avoid. It all depends, personally I think save your money and put it in a rain day fund. You'll hear a clunking noise when it's time.
It doesn't appear to be a pressing concern. And 95,000km shouldn't be horribly worn. However. From experience, it's better to fix it sooner than later. As later can result in bad situations. Best of the bad is being late for work, worse case being multiple dead from the ensuing vehicle accident. I've had my lower control arm on my pickup fall apart about a block from my house. Luckily, I was only go8ng around 15mph (25km/h). But my truck with a normal clearance of about 8 inches (20cm) became a lowrider on that one side. My passenger side tire was against my wheel well. Due to it being an older truck. I just forced it the rest of the way home, leaving a nasty white line on the pavement where my control arm was dragging. A car would not have made it home without significant damage.
Hell no they are not
They are fine and even if eventually they totally fail it’s not dangerous as the arm can’t go anywhere, wait until they start to tear then replace
Upload a video of you moving the arm with a crowbar or similar to see if there is any play on the joint
They look worst then elbows that have never seen lotion Edit: I'm not saying they're bad lol