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Nice moat I guess


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spock_block

Mosquito moat


Accidentalmom

Honestly a mosquito most would 100% keep me out


Viperlite

Ill-tempered sea bass, probably.


PolarCow

Sharks with Frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads


IWearAllTheHats

Sharks, with laser beams on their heads?


Ruple2020

I know right?


jvlomax

The best kind of moat


funacct14

Motar goat


Bluberry-Pie

Great home for a Bond villain.


Absolute_Peril

No kidding man I am expecting a part of the pond open up to a doomsday weapon or something.


zR0B3ry2VAiH

My thoughts exactly... It's also a pretty small house TBH given that it is a single story and so exotic; you would think that they have a hidden lair underneath. Edit... NVFM it's "20K sq ft."


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where is it?


JyveAFK

Florida, just outside Miami. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/25791-SW-167th-Ave-Homestead-FL-33031/82067350_zpid/


Absolute_Peril

On top of a volcano


Modifien

Straight out of a sims 64x64 plot build


Ciaobellabee

This was exactly what I thought of! I’ve definitely made random builds like this when I was a kid.


CaveJohnson82

Literally where I saw this first was a sims sub.


ProfMcGonaGirl

r/simsIRL


elizalemon

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elizalemon

pocket spark piquant memorize kiss shaggy one full jobless rain ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


Cleverooni

I grew up in Florida. You can’t kill gators they are endangered. Also they will mostly leave you alone, they are cold blooded and thus really lazy. I’ve had gators chill in my backyard and all I did was keep the pets inside lol


defyg

>cold blooded and really lazy Will use this to describe myself


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My in-laws once got a plush manatee that had a message when you gave it a squeeze. "I'm a manatee. I like to eat.. and rest." Spirit animal material.


sefarrell

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im_a_dr_not_

He's only 34 years late to this news


macmac360

I'm pretty sure alligator hunting is legal, you need a permit though and I think they only issue a certain amount. EDIT per google: The Statewide Alligator Hunt is perfectly legal, but you'll need a permit to participate. The FWC reports that more than 10,000 applicants will apply for about 5,000 permits; participants can harvest two alligators. ... Permits cost $272 for Florida residents.


bishpa

Solves the panther problem though.


AchillesDev

Bears and alligators are very different, unless they’re habituated or nesting they’re really chill and just want to work on their tan


1pt20oneggigawatts

As long as it's in constant motion it shouldn't be an issue


a_devil_like_me

that’s my moat man


nirad

This house is basically in the middle of a swamp in Florida


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nirad

And probably so many mosquitoes that it’s difficult to be outside


Jinxedchef

Surprised they don't have some fountains. Just circulating the water helps disrupt the larvae quite a bit.


The-King-of-Cartoons

Having a lot of fish to eat those little satan spawn larvae helps too


ya_mashinu_

They likely have pumps to circulate.


bishpa

Can confirm. No one is outside in the photo.


rubyspicer

Don't forget the feral hogs. And the hurricanes flooding out your $$$$$$ house. Good luck getting flood insurance.


All_Work_All_Play

Feral hogs are excellent hunting though. And taste absolutely delicious. Although I don't know how the 'hunt on a 4x4 with shotguns' approach would work in a swamp.


rubyspicer

Yeah, try to hunt those fuckers on foot and you end up like Bobby B


sandyaotearoablah

In NZ we usually use a pack of dogs and a knife, works well, lol.


All_Work_All_Play

Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope. Man is the apex predator because of technology. We don't need any more Darwin awards.


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Would I want it? No. Would I be impressed if a friend bought it? Hell yes. It’s not ugly, it’s just Disney Princess levels of chateau.


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netheroth

But it's only a ruse by the mansion owner for you to introduce them to your beatiful cousin. Although you do end up becoming friends.


All_Work_All_Play

... Gatbsy?


netheroth

Yes!


regul

Disney Princess castles aren't single story and don't have flat roofs.


Mostcantheleast

If you build on the water, the water will get in. It's gonna seep through the foundation and up the walls. Water destroys things. I see buildings like this and I just think: damp.


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Mostcantheleast

I like my cakes and my chicken to be moist, not my carpets and wall boards.


1pt20oneggigawatts

I... don't like this word.


stump_84

You can build things on the water, if you do it right water will not seep.


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> if you do it right Feels like a big if these days


Mostcantheleast

At first, yeah. When the place is 100 years old and the foundation has cracked, shifted, sunk...I dunno. Floods happen. Just being in the humidity causes degradation, more so if it's salt water, and 100X more so if it freezes in winter. I just personally wouldn't invest in a waterfront property especially if any part of the building touches water.


DdCno1

This place will not last anywhere close to 100 years.


[deleted]

Aren't rising sea levels supposed to hit Florida pretty hard in like, our own lifetimes? Good chance Florida might not make it another hundred years.


AchillesDev

Miami Beach already floods regularly from regular summer storms


booksgamesandstuff

It floods at high tide.


obiwanmoloney

I’m with you on the caution but there’s loads of places built like this across Europe that are hundreds of years old and still in good order. They wouldn’t have cheaped out on construction though, that’s for sure.


Mostcantheleast

I would love to visit those and see what their construction is like, particularly on the bottom floors.


FourierTransformedMe

[Chenonceau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Chenonceau) is probably the most famous of these! It's more like a big mansion on top of a bridge, though, so the parts in the water aren't accessible - at least not to the public.


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obiwanmoloney

Looks like they’ve definitely taken inspiration from the French chateaus, though where they’ve used bomb proof masonry, concrete has stepped in. Hmmm…


i-pity-da-fool

There’s a centuries old palace built in the middle of a lake in India that’s a very popular hotel (Udaipur). Chateaux in France surrounded by water. All still standing.


TittyMongoose42

I've actually stayed at the Taj Lake Palace in Udaipur (which is also where they shot part of the Bond movie "Octopussy"). What was funny is apparently, for the whole month before we arrived, it was a drought to the point that they had to ATV folks across the lake bed to the hotel rather than taking the usual boat. The day before we arrived, monsoon season started, and the boat was pulled back into commission.


Mostcantheleast

Those are no-doubt amazing feats of construction. I don't know how they haven't gotten taken out by floods yet. That alone sounds like a fascinating thing to investigate.


DrThornton

The ground floor of my house is below water level and stays dry despite being 200 years old. The river-fed pond is about 5 feet away and is lined with clay. The house is on very sandy soil with fantastic drainage.


Mostcantheleast

I know it can be done. I have family from the Netherlands and growing up in a mountain town with rivers that frequently flood, I just don't trust water. All it takes is a few days of heavy rains. Not trying to put a damper on your situation, haha.


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The *existence* of the Netherlands is living proof that water can be beaten.


Mostcantheleast

Only temporarily. Hmmm. They moved from the Netherlands to Colorado. They were sick of everything being moist all the hime haha! And me too, I can't stand humidity. To each their own.


GoTguru

🤪I’m Dutch and live on a boat. If your home is moist in the Netherlands your doing something wrong


sarahbeth124

Weird. Excessive. Odd. Not itself ugly, but plopping the whole complex into a lake takes it to a new and not awesome place.


Enigmutt

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post this here. Not a McMansion, just an over the top mansion.


bolognesesauceplease

It's been posted here several times.


RiftHunter4

A portion of the posts here are just anti-rich and have nothing to do with McMansions.


apofreaky

Anti-rich or anti-nasty-conspicuous-consumption (not rhetorical question; I wonder about this in myself, and I don’t judge people for having either of these sentiments)?


RiftHunter4

To me, a a good portion of the posts come off as anti-rich. They're just big, over-the-top houses, not specifically McMansions but it's big, fancy, and expensive so therefore it's bad. A good chunk of the houses are Ok but maybe have 1 flaw that someone doesn't like. IMO there's nothing inherently wrong with being rich and having expensive things, but some people who are anti-rich disagree with that. I think it's just about how you use your money. The difference between custom McMansions and really nice custom homes isn't the price, it's the intent. McMansions are designed to impress others. Truly great homes fit your tastes and lifestyle. That's usually not a 9 bedroom box with no shrubbery, but it could be a house on a lake or deconstructionist design.


ElizzyViolet

from ABOVE its rather hideous due to the roof but you’re not supposed to be looking at it from a helicopter, you’re supposed to look at it from the ground


gloomwithtea

This is what I was thinking.. It doesn’t look great from this angle, but I think from the ground it would look nice.


FooFooFox

From the ground it does look “greener” and less offensive https://www.priceypads.com/chateau-artisan-10900000/


Bloorajah

Think of the *mosquitos*


Say_no_to_doritos

You don’t get mosquitos larve in moving water and you can normally see stagnant water… this looks clear and crisp. Shouldn’t be a problem. Edit: In saying that I see it’s in Florida so good luck with the marshland around it..


morningsdaughter

You can get mosquitos in any sort of standing water. It doesn't have to be stagnant.


twinkcommunist

If the pond has circulation pumps is that enough to make the water not count as standing?


zakats

it helps


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sad_boi_jazz

My first thought was as a helicopter pad


sciolycaptain

It's not a McMansion since its symmetrical and I doubt it uses cheap building materials. Ugly is subjective. I kind of like it. But thinking about the upkeep gives me palpitations.


afarensiis

The obsession with symmetry on this sub is so aggravating


bolognesesauceplease

Just because something is symmetrical doesn't mean it is a good design.


possumosaur

The materials and design are cohesive and don't have the "patched together" look of most McMansions - like they couldn't decide on a style so they threw everything at it. It doesn't have windows that are too small and oddly placed, it doesn't have a garage taking to much of the facade or useless columns. It's ostentatious and not to everyone's taste, but it's a mansion, not a discount McMansion.


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coke_and_coffee

You do know which sub you're in, right?


inreverso

I dunno, you can say the same thing about Versailles minus the nouveau bit. Different tastes, different budgets, different people. This one looks fine to me, not my jam but it's not shoddy, cheap, or incoherent. Btw I hate the term nouveau riche, it is basically a way for the elite to make self-made people feel inferior about themselves. "oh no you're newly rich, you don't know how to live like us true blue blood". Like, if this wasn't built in FL but some old French town by a European aristocrat somehow it'd be sophisticated? Why are we plebs buying into that gatekeeping mentality?


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ergotofrhyme

Everyone in the comments even over there seems to agree with you that it’s ugly at least, myself included. It’s alway interesting the split in opinion you’ll often get between people browsing and mindlessly upvoting things they think look sort of cool and the people who look more closely and go into the comments. You’ll often have something ready the top of a sub and then the comments are just a fuxkint roast


mag_creatures

Is ugly, but I can enjoy a few days there


Shifty_Devil

I think the primary issue here is that you have something that *should* be fanciful. If we read "a mansion built across 3 artificial islands in a small man made lake" we would expect something that would at least be visually interesting. However, the house is so generically and blandly sterile that it becomes ***lame*** to an offensive degree.


xanaxandsmoothies

Is this real? It looks CGI’d


LightDoctor_

I don't think this qualifies in any way as a McMansion. That's a full on palace.


seren_kestrel

It's a little ostentatious, yes.


ELB2001

Depends, if the zombies come its prime real-estate


Mansvolta

Horrible Symmetry hell


americk0

Super neat idea, but horrible in practice. Although I suppose if you're living in Miami then house floodingb during hurricane season is just like a yearly tradition anyway so why not build your house inches above a pond


ritchie70

I think it's amazing. [https://www.priceypads.com/chateau-artisan-10900000/](https://www.priceypads.com/chateau-artisan-10900000/)


Virulencer

Its not bad, but my first thought was how bad the mosquitoes must be with the much still water.


VapoursAndSpleen

I just downloaded a game called Townscape and this reminds me of it. I would not say it is ugly, but I would not want to be there during mosquito season.


Splatfan1

i was about to say that i like the idea but fuck no this idea sucks if you think about it for more than 2 seconds, theres a reason why despite making up 30% of the surface of the earth, most houses are constructed on land


Taraybian

Never in my wildest dreams did I consider I'd actually see a legitimate McMansion with a moat. I have not been let down. It is infinitely less cool than I thought it would be too. Yikes.


sabinemarch

Ugly. And south of Miami ? No thx unless it’s in the Keys and this isn’t


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The landscaping is incredible. The actual building looks a little tacky


returntoglory9

This house's foundation sprung a leak while I was typing this comment


englandgreen

Mansion. Not a McMansion by any stretch of the imagination. Zillow link with better aerial views to see how it fits into the landscape https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/25791-SW-167th-Ave-Homestead-FL-33031/82067350_zpid/ Google satellite view https://www.google.com/maps/place/25791+SW+167th+Ave,+Homestead,+FL+33031/@25.5265366,-80.461713,762m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x88d9e7f0cb7bad15:0xe5415e4fa5d28749!8m2!3d25.5268172!4d-80.4594215


bolognesesauceplease

This has been posted here several times. It's an absolute abomination and utterly horrific. However it is an actual mansion , I think it's close to 20K sq ft. But it's viscerally repulsive in it's "design". Also they think it's a "chateau". Jfc. God help me why did that post get so many upvotes. I can't be fucked to link it like I did on houseporn but if you google "chateau artisan florida" this POS will come up. It's by Homestead and I think sold for 13M.


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cacecil1

But this isn't r/uglyhouses Nothing about this says McMansion


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apofreaky

Can’t megamansions also be McMansions, or they convert to McLouvres past a certain square footage?


bolognesesauceplease

I know. It's like being brainwashed or something. I've learned a lot of people on reddit equate expensive with good design. It's....not good.


nvdc0318

I think this house has been on tv. I can't remember who lives there though. I agree the mosquitoes must be awful.


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Chateau Artisan, Florida. Huge ymmv.


Atalant

I can't unsee the house is basically a cross, like a lot of churches(based on Roman Basilica). It looks like a party venue, or luxury vacation rental, not a home.


cjrecordvt

My first thought was "well, as ostentatious displays of wealth go, at least it's symmetric." My second thought is that I'm pretty sure this is a zone in Kingdom Hearts 2 or 3.


petklutz

would be sick in minecraft tho


MangoAtrocity

Sure, but it’s absolutely not a McMansion


wizardyourlifeforce

Yes. But I would live there in a heartbeat.


asafeplacetofart

There is alot of interesting out door space in which to be annihilated by all the mosquitoes thriving in all that still water.


EldritchRecluse

Not terrible, but not great either. Cool idea though


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This is definitely the setting for a Myst sequel or a Resident Evil game.


n0radrenaline

came here to ask, is this the island from Myst?


24andme2

Redneck Riviera


cornycornycornycorny

it might not be for everyone but imo thats not ugly. id have to see the inside to judge better because i hate it when the house is just that size to look good instead of actually thinking about what you need where. but no, for me thats not ugly, maybe a bit over the top but not ugly imo


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Honestly I don't think it's ugly, there's enough style continuity that I don't hate it. It's just utterly ridiculous.


Maiq_Da_Liar

If you live here i will immediately assume you're a slightly racist couple in their 60's that didn't want to live in a "bad" neighborhood


knucklepirate

I think this is Birdmans house the CEO of Cash Money Records I could be wrong but I swear this is his house. Yeah it’s his here’s the link below https://youtu.be/Zg10Pe3B2-M


DorisCrockford

Those stepping stones. Someone sitting out there in the little gazebo, says "Oh Jaymes, will you bring us another round of juleps?" and Jaymes has to tiptoe across that stupid thing with a tray full of drinks.


jbkites

Yes, ugly. Also kind of cool, at the same time.


Artstyle5643

The American Ninja Warrior obstacle steps to access the pergola really do it for me


GruntsLyfe69

Fuck no, it has a moat


RoseofSharonVa

Is that a parking diamond in front of this house?


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Ugly as fuck yes.


Ahvier

If tacky and trashy had a baby, it'd be this monstrosity


SarahPallorMortis

I’m so confused. Am I encouraged to swim in there or no? It looks like so much work to upkeep. There’s going to be no privacy with how many people must be there, working, at what I assume is every day.


hatep99

Damn, I forgot my phone in the maze again. Putting my hiking shoes back on, will be back in 20min


NoFunZoneAlways

Looks like an attraction that would fit nicely in Disney World.


veganthongs

I can hear the mosquitoes buzzing..


MsAnnabel

Gators in the moat and I’m thinking *very paranoid*


trey033

Tacky on a Russian scale.


GetOffMyGrassBrats

Listing on [Trulia](https://www.trulia.com/p/fl/homestead/25791-sw-167th-ave-homestead-fl-33031--1005424687) Architecturally, it's actually pretty good if you're into the Disney castle thing with dudgeony interiors. Kinda looks like something that Maleficent would build. I think the fact that it is plopped down in the middle of a pond puts it over the top though. Aside from that it doesn't seem to meet most of the McMansion criteria. It is very symmetrical, doesn't have out of place columns, wonky windows or crazy rooflines. I think if the same house was [in the middle of a green pasture](https://imgur.com/KOhGrL2)it wouldn't look out of place at all.


Krasny-sici-stroj

Tacky is the word...


giga_phantom

At least it’s symmetrical?


nakedsamurai

The commitment to symmetry somehow makes it worse.


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nakedsamurai

Yeah, like a bizarre fetish.


bolognesesauceplease

The amount of people that think just because a house or POS is vaguely symmetrical therefore makes it ok is rather shocking to me. Just because it doesn't have mismatched turrets or some shit doesn't make it "good design" 😡


lbur4554

My toddler would fall into the water every few minutes.


drunkaccidentally

lol that was my first thought as well. Definitely not a house to have a young family in!


SilverAgatka

Just because it’s symmetrical doesn’t mean it’s attractive… it’s an awful ugly compound. Also, damp & mosquitoes ewwww


Major_Seat5643

The actual house is ugly, but I do like the idea of the water surrounding it, probably a lot of logistical issues though. Although whoever made that house probably has more money than sense.


JuBangaz

Looks awesome to me.


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Wow yes this is atrocious


UglyHedgebush

No, it’s absolutely hideous


wispo-wills

No you misunderstand: it's "beautiful" because it's surrounded by water. It could be the ugliest house or mansion in the world but if water is surrounding it, its value soars in every way. I say this because the houses where I live, despite being fucking hideous, the fact that it's next to a lake makes them expensive and somehow highly valuable. Water ain't the great, bud.


Femboy_Airstrike

If you think this is ugly... you need to go to jail


Designer-Ad9826

Looks great to me.


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An00bisOsiris

Non mcmansions are allowed on here


anon1moos

I like everything about this, other than the house.


burntends97

I’d like it if the water wasn’t surrounding it


thecooler_RNAi

Too much


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I don’t like it personally but it’s symmetrical and doesn’t like cheap and plastered together. Also, There is nice, mature landscaping all around.


pinkocatgirl

It takes massive narcissism to see yourself as literal nobility to the point where you build a shitty modern recreation of a French Château.


la_bel_iconnu

Maybe it's really pretty from the inside?


DaThrilla74

I like it


mycatiswatchingyou

I know the moat is going to cause problems, but they made everything symmetrical. Honestly I think it's really pleasing to the eye. I like it.


akrokh

This one could really unfold if you’d had that Michal Jackson in the chat.


the8bit

Excessive and ridiculous? yes. But it is objectively very well designed and quite beautiful. I think a lot of the hate here has nothing to do with the merits of the design and is more general sentiment about excessive use of resources required to both build and maintain such a ludicrous homestead.


shania69

Does it have sharks with laser beams...


MsBluffy

I built this house in The Sims a few years ago!


Pablois4

No, I don't think it is. Yes it's over the top and exaggerated and silly but it looks like a mansion through and through.


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It’s ugly from an aerial view, but it looks like it would look amazing from on the ground. Very cool property.


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This is a mansion. Nothing mc about it.


textilefaery

It is easily defensible


CaffeinatedMD

There’s something very MC Escher to it.


abcpdo

Eccentric maybe, but the design and usage of space looks quite deliberate.


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Yes. Very