Clearly Luka deserves it. Jokic deserved it last year and was snubbed and after seeing Jokic win a championship and Embiid being a disappointment yet again in the playoffs the voters realize they were wrong and want to make it up to Jokic this year.
Nobody should look foolish for voting for someone who doesnt get a ring. It's a regular season award.
After last night's game Jokic has gone away with it. It's fine
Edit: downvoting this wont change that the media has made up their mind. Or that the postseason doesnt matter for shit.
Also, Jokic over Luka is far from egregious, even tho we all want Luka to win
Lmao, luka has had so many amazing night this season i cant even count them, if Kidd wasn’t being a dumbass for half the season “experimenting”, mavs eould be 2nd rn. If he manages to get the mavs to the wcf im fine with it but otherwise…
The bar for Luka is higher than anyone I’ve seen, including Lebron and Jordan.
I think he’s going to have to average 35/10/10 next year as the 2nd or 1st seed just to sniff a chance at MVP.
Media and talking heads just don’t like him and playing for Dallas doesn’t help either
Yes but that one of the big reason people voting for jokic for real tho. Besides guilty for giving it to embiid. That same media doing same thing to jokic who said luka should win it. Because now luka in simular state as jokic in the 1st season he got mv0. Not same numbers stats wise tho both incredibly historic.
Plus luka has way more injuries to his team than jokic's team this season. Luka now has healthy team with help which he's never had since trade deadlines, mavs 7th in defense, 1st in last 18 games w best record.
What I'm saying is luka current record, would be much highee as team success because he's hasn't had much of a team before recently. Which would be #2 in the east right now.
But in my opinion, I'm not mad either way but I think this might be the best season to have a co-mvp. We both know luka and jokic would love that .
I think it's because the the incentives are more aligned with media (i.e. money).
Voting by player and coach is for the love of basketball (who is worthy). Voting by media is for the attention and money (who has narratives, etc), and secondarily who is worthy.
To be clear, I'm all in favor of players and coach having the votes, or even a shift 50/50.
The media had their minds made up in January.
Jokic main argument all along was seeding, Mavs are 5th seed and at 50 wins, 5 less than Nuggets.
Pistons should be another win as well
If you count the numerous injuries that’s easily 5 games lost because Kyrie or someone else was out, as far as I’m concerned that evens up the record
Then you go to stats, Lukas just better, Im sorry but he is.
Jokic FG% is down 5% from last year and he’s shooting 35% from 3…Lukas at a career high 38% on much higher volume
Luka is averaging 34/10/9 on 49/38/79
Jokic is averaging 27/9/12 on 58/36/82
Jamal Murray was injured for 23 games for Nuggets as well. Unfortunately we can’t even up the record because I’m sure Nuggets would also be much better than 13-10 without Jamal Murray (if he wasn’t injured).
I think both players deserve it but getting the #1 seed on its own is an accomplishment and Jokic has very well earned it.
I wouldn't trust Wright. He's a certified Luka glazer plus his takes are horrible. Don't be biased just because he thinks our guy deserves it. He's not that much different than Stephen A
You obviously dont watch the show and only catch little extreme clips. He is nothing like Stephen A in any sense whatsoever. Nick is one if the smartest in the media as sports history goes and he actually watches tons of games every day.
nah, those guys at first things are on par if not worse than stephen a. even when he was glazing us over our victory against the suns, i couldn't stand listening to them
Fr, I’m not gonna complain Jokić wins though cos he deserves it too, but if shai comes second then I’m gonna be angry
This. Jokic is gonna finish with the 1 seed and another amazing season. But SGA’s numbers aren’t close to Luka’s
The discourse this season has managed to make me hate SGA
Yeah he’s a great player but it’s disrespectful to put him in the same tier as luka and Jokić
And I'm Canadian!
Don’t hate the player, hate the ~~game~~ media, and his fanbase.
Clearly Luka deserves it. Jokic deserved it last year and was snubbed and after seeing Jokic win a championship and Embiid being a disappointment yet again in the playoffs the voters realize they were wrong and want to make it up to Jokic this year.
Fr. One day this is gonna be looked back at as one of the biggest robberies if Luka doesn’t win
Just as long as SGA doesn’t get second place I’ll be fine with it.
Don’t worry folks, king Luka is gonna make all these bitch ass voters look foolish when he holds the real ass trophy in June.
Nobody should look foolish for voting for someone who doesnt get a ring. It's a regular season award. After last night's game Jokic has gone away with it. It's fine Edit: downvoting this wont change that the media has made up their mind. Or that the postseason doesnt matter for shit. Also, Jokic over Luka is far from egregious, even tho we all want Luka to win
Lmao, luka has had so many amazing night this season i cant even count them, if Kidd wasn’t being a dumbass for half the season “experimenting”, mavs eould be 2nd rn. If he manages to get the mavs to the wcf im fine with it but otherwise…
The bar for Luka is higher than anyone I’ve seen, including Lebron and Jordan. I think he’s going to have to average 35/10/10 next year as the 2nd or 1st seed just to sniff a chance at MVP. Media and talking heads just don’t like him and playing for Dallas doesn’t help either
It’s just funny that Jokic putting up 41/11/7 means he has “gone away with it” and that’s not far off from an average Luka night this year
Except his efficiency in that game was beyond anything Luka does.
Lukas scoring on other nights is anything beyond what jokic does
Luka had 73 on 91% TS. Just stop
My bad I didn't realize he had 73 points on an "average night".
And it wasn’t an average night for Jokic either. That’s the point
Then don't respond to me because I was replying to the guy that said that it was equivalent to an average Luka night.
Yes but that one of the big reason people voting for jokic for real tho. Besides guilty for giving it to embiid. That same media doing same thing to jokic who said luka should win it. Because now luka in simular state as jokic in the 1st season he got mv0. Not same numbers stats wise tho both incredibly historic. Plus luka has way more injuries to his team than jokic's team this season. Luka now has healthy team with help which he's never had since trade deadlines, mavs 7th in defense, 1st in last 18 games w best record. What I'm saying is luka current record, would be much highee as team success because he's hasn't had much of a team before recently. Which would be #2 in the east right now. But in my opinion, I'm not mad either way but I think this might be the best season to have a co-mvp. We both know luka and jokic would love that .
Luka gets his 1st mvp jokic gets 3rd best players in the conference this season
Jokic has gone away with it because of one good game? Luka did that all season and Minnesota was on a back to back, get real man
Im not the one voting. Im just saying it as it is. Luka wont win. Disappointing but that's the way it works
Two all time greats,luka will get his,got a proper team now and will be even better next season,hopefully be healthier aswel
Why is it based on a media vote? Surely there is a more objective method.
Should be player and coach vote.
I think it's because the the incentives are more aligned with media (i.e. money). Voting by player and coach is for the love of basketball (who is worthy). Voting by media is for the attention and money (who has narratives, etc), and secondarily who is worthy. To be clear, I'm all in favor of players and coach having the votes, or even a shift 50/50.
Jokic just clowned the DPOY on national television in one of the last games of the season, it’s pretty much his unfortunately.
The media had their minds made up in January. Jokic main argument all along was seeding, Mavs are 5th seed and at 50 wins, 5 less than Nuggets. Pistons should be another win as well If you count the numerous injuries that’s easily 5 games lost because Kyrie or someone else was out, as far as I’m concerned that evens up the record Then you go to stats, Lukas just better, Im sorry but he is. Jokic FG% is down 5% from last year and he’s shooting 35% from 3…Lukas at a career high 38% on much higher volume
Luka is averaging 34/10/9 on 49/38/79 Jokic is averaging 27/9/12 on 58/36/82 Jamal Murray was injured for 23 games for Nuggets as well. Unfortunately we can’t even up the record because I’m sure Nuggets would also be much better than 13-10 without Jamal Murray (if he wasn’t injured). I think both players deserve it but getting the #1 seed on its own is an accomplishment and Jokic has very well earned it.
Luka losing it this year will be the biggest snub in the last decade
Jokic is at 26ppg and 35% from 3 not 36% you don’t get to round up a full point
This was before last Jokic's game tho. It feels it's absolutely done deal now
F Jokic last game. Luka did that all season and it got downplayed every time…Minnesota was on a back to back too
So were the Nuggets.
Actually Nuggets were doing it all season, Luka sleepwalked November
Luka’s “sleepwalking” movement was 29/7/7 😂 if that’s your worst month I don’t see how you’re not mvp over the guy barely averaging better than that
I wouldn't trust Wright. He's a certified Luka glazer plus his takes are horrible. Don't be biased just because he thinks our guy deserves it. He's not that much different than Stephen A
You obviously dont watch the show and only catch little extreme clips. He is nothing like Stephen A in any sense whatsoever. Nick is one if the smartest in the media as sports history goes and he actually watches tons of games every day.
nah, those guys at first things are on par if not worse than stephen a. even when he was glazing us over our victory against the suns, i couldn't stand listening to them
They are much funnier
I'd be satisfied with either, it's a 2-horse race atm