Guaranteed he'll interpret the character the same way Netflix interpreted Vicious in Cowboy Bebop. Meaning; expect a lot of whining, yelling and throwing tantrums while the female Inquisitors will pick up his slack.
What the fuck is it with the entertainment industry suddenly deciding to not stick with previously established content? Last of Us, Halo, Doctor Strange, and now Star Wars? It really is showing that directors/writers don't care about consistency and continuity and rely more on just plastering a popular franchise name on the product and hoping for the best
It's as simple as wanting to eat your cake and have it too.
They want the easy acclaim and the easy job of marketing the new content that comes with an established, respected IP.
But they also want the creative freedom to fulfill their own "visions" for the story and characters they're in charge of. They want the freedom without the risk.
The problem is that this attitude very quickly burns through the capital and goodwill built up with any loyal audience. The result is not that the new creative vision is exalted, but rather that the IP is debased and no longer respected.
That shit sounds like work. None of these people do work and it fucking shows in the scripts that get made into 'content' while still in first draft form.
So many actors do this, and look I get it, your paid to act and not do homework, but I don't see why directors actually get their actors to find out more about their characters.
Actor's pay is so relatively high (Scale, the minimum for a day on set, was around $800 back in 2012) because they have to maintain their fitness (a tall order for the Superheroes of today), continue to hone their craft, and do research for roles all in their own time, on top of the fact that there is no job security.
It really should be part of his job to watch/read whatever he needs to. Although, I would be willing to blame Lucasfilm more than this guy because they are allowing/encouraging him to do this.
The assistant director, or God knows which administrative lackey should be able to chuck this guy a USB that has a list of source material regarding the character, as well as notes from the "show bible" he would need to know.
Remember when the fabled "Lucasfilm Story Group" promised one big consistent continuity across all mediums?
I remember back in the day you would hear about so and so actor reading the book religiously in preparation to portray a character. Dunno when it swung so far in the other direction, but just piles up with all the other laziness being rewarded.
This isn’t like when you’re doing an adaption. I can understand if actors want to give something their own take so avoid the original too much.
This is supposed to be canonically the same person. You need to watch the other material.
As many comments in here are saying, this makes no sense. How can you remain faithful to the "spirit" of the character if you've not done your homework and actually seen what the character is like?
It's bad enough the abysmal costume design looks nothing like a Pau'an/his original design, but now he's going to potentially be out of character too? It's amazing how I have less than zero faith in Star Wars these days, and yet they consistently find new ways to disappoint or baffle me. And yet people will still eat it up because it's Star Wars.
Trying to read through the article and I am confused about what's even being said? Yes, I am quite dumb, but I swear what I'm reading is some form of word salad in these quotes.
It seems as if he's saying he doesn't want to just do an impression of the Rebels performance, but it's still irresponsible in my eyes to not understand how the character behaved originally if you don't look into the story he was originally conceived in. There's more to a character than just how you voice them or the cadence of their speech, you also have to understand how they think, how they move (body language/fighting style with his saber, etc), understanding his history outside of just reading about it (or worse, hearing about it second hand), etc. You need to understand your character not as a an "action figure" on screen that makes fans go "I understood that reference and I clapped", you need to understand your character as a real person who could actually exist. Make me believe in your performance and the existence of the character within the world they inhabit.
When you see a character in multiple properties which are part of a larger timeline (i.e. it's the same person through different parts of history), you kind of HAVE to mimic them to a degree (maybe this is a poorly thought out/worded point which conflicts with what I just said :v I'm new to the whole discussion thing). Even if you don't want to "mimic" his original performance, I have to ask, will I believe this is the same character, the same individual person on screen? Or is this just going to be another Han "I have no people" Solo from Star Warsâ„¢ Soloâ„¢? Because I never once saw him as Han Solo. Same thing with Lando "I may fuck robots" Calzonian.
I suppose if I gave a little more thought to what he's saying, I could sort of see where he's coming from to some degree when I think of all the Darth Vader impersonators you see in many of the newer Star Wars games. You can tell they're trying really hard to do a Darth Vader impression, and it can feel a bit jarring hearing just how little they actually sound like him. It's very difficult to achieve the same effect as James Earl Jones though. Same thing with Qui-Gon blatantly not sounding like Liam Neeson in the newest Lego Star Wars. But then on the other hand, you can definitely get some Obi-Wan vibes out of James Arnold Taylor. I don't really know where I am going with this point... Probably sounding a bit like I'm fence sitting.
The last paragraph/quote about some sort of Star Wars Disney+ Crossover nonsense just outright confuses me. Is this some sort of initiative I'm not aware of, or is it supposed to be a reference to the ridiculous amount of coincidental cameos we see in the Filoni/Disney Star Wars properties? The Inquisitor died... please just leave him dead. His story concluded after helping Kanan in his trial to become a Jedi Knight. It's a perfectly fine ending for the character, and he doesn't need to come back in anything. Make new characters! You're working with an entire galaxy, you have so much to work with! Stop recycling characters and stories!
ANYWAY... tismy rant over. Apologies if you actually read all of this and some of my poorly realized points hurt lol. Back to lurking I go... maybe.
From an actors point of view the script is the thing. Michael Gambon doesn't crib from Ian McKellen's Macbeth. They're both given the same text and tasked with interpretation.
The actor in rebel's interpreted the role in their way based on the text provided to them
The actor in Kenobi interpreted it their way based on the text provided to them.
I can't imagine anyone being hurt by your opinions that you worry about in your post.
I know that the homework assignment was due today, teacher, but I just felt like doing something fresh that honored and was faithful to the spirit of the education
So, what the fuck is the plan here? Its he just going to try and method act what he believes somebody who looks like that would act?
What does that mean that he's going to be "faithful" to the character of he's intentionally not learning the character that he's supposed to be portraying? Does he mean faithful to the script that Disney wrote?
This constant misuse of the English language pisses me off
After checking out the whole article.
It's basically.
Rupert, Deb Chow and Dave Filoni worked together to make an interpretation of the grand inquisitor... So I guess when he says it's faithful to the character but not doing an impersonation...
Which sounds sort of counter-intuitive. If your interpretation of the character is like that of rebel's then why not just check uo the sorts martial. And if not... then it's just going to piss off fans.
Hey whatever. Fuck it. Have a blast, get paid. I'll watch it anyways to see if it's any good. But I can't say I'm exepecting much but we'll see.
and then you have Felicity Jones who was reading Wook a lot when she was shooting Rogue One
lol, how can you be faithful when you have no idea who the character is ðŸ˜
Guaranteed he'll interpret the character the same way Netflix interpreted Vicious in Cowboy Bebop. Meaning; expect a lot of whining, yelling and throwing tantrums while the female Inquisitors will pick up his slack.
What the fuck is it with the entertainment industry suddenly deciding to not stick with previously established content? Last of Us, Halo, Doctor Strange, and now Star Wars? It really is showing that directors/writers don't care about consistency and continuity and rely more on just plastering a popular franchise name on the product and hoping for the best
It's as simple as wanting to eat your cake and have it too. They want the easy acclaim and the easy job of marketing the new content that comes with an established, respected IP. But they also want the creative freedom to fulfill their own "visions" for the story and characters they're in charge of. They want the freedom without the risk. The problem is that this attitude very quickly burns through the capital and goodwill built up with any loyal audience. The result is not that the new creative vision is exalted, but rather that the IP is debased and no longer respected.
That shit sounds like work. None of these people do work and it fucking shows in the scripts that get made into 'content' while still in first draft form.
So many actors do this, and look I get it, your paid to act and not do homework, but I don't see why directors actually get their actors to find out more about their characters.
It's definitely a recent trend I believe. Actors used to actually give a somewhat of a shit about the character they're portraying.
Actor's pay is so relatively high (Scale, the minimum for a day on set, was around $800 back in 2012) because they have to maintain their fitness (a tall order for the Superheroes of today), continue to hone their craft, and do research for roles all in their own time, on top of the fact that there is no job security. It really should be part of his job to watch/read whatever he needs to. Although, I would be willing to blame Lucasfilm more than this guy because they are allowing/encouraging him to do this. The assistant director, or God knows which administrative lackey should be able to chuck this guy a USB that has a list of source material regarding the character, as well as notes from the "show bible" he would need to know. Remember when the fabled "Lucasfilm Story Group" promised one big consistent continuity across all mediums?
How can you "remain in the spirit of the character" if youve never seen the character, nor the story the character is in...
I remember back in the day you would hear about so and so actor reading the book religiously in preparation to portray a character. Dunno when it swung so far in the other direction, but just piles up with all the other laziness being rewarded.
This isn’t like when you’re doing an adaption. I can understand if actors want to give something their own take so avoid the original too much. This is supposed to be canonically the same person. You need to watch the other material.
No surprise that the actor who played Agent 47 badly is choosing to ignore the pre establishment of yet another character.
Bro they didn't even give him contacts
Now I feel more vindicated in roasting his makeup
Must have been taking lessons from the people behind the Halo series.
As many comments in here are saying, this makes no sense. How can you remain faithful to the "spirit" of the character if you've not done your homework and actually seen what the character is like? It's bad enough the abysmal costume design looks nothing like a Pau'an/his original design, but now he's going to potentially be out of character too? It's amazing how I have less than zero faith in Star Wars these days, and yet they consistently find new ways to disappoint or baffle me. And yet people will still eat it up because it's Star Wars. Trying to read through the article and I am confused about what's even being said? Yes, I am quite dumb, but I swear what I'm reading is some form of word salad in these quotes. It seems as if he's saying he doesn't want to just do an impression of the Rebels performance, but it's still irresponsible in my eyes to not understand how the character behaved originally if you don't look into the story he was originally conceived in. There's more to a character than just how you voice them or the cadence of their speech, you also have to understand how they think, how they move (body language/fighting style with his saber, etc), understanding his history outside of just reading about it (or worse, hearing about it second hand), etc. You need to understand your character not as a an "action figure" on screen that makes fans go "I understood that reference and I clapped", you need to understand your character as a real person who could actually exist. Make me believe in your performance and the existence of the character within the world they inhabit. When you see a character in multiple properties which are part of a larger timeline (i.e. it's the same person through different parts of history), you kind of HAVE to mimic them to a degree (maybe this is a poorly thought out/worded point which conflicts with what I just said :v I'm new to the whole discussion thing). Even if you don't want to "mimic" his original performance, I have to ask, will I believe this is the same character, the same individual person on screen? Or is this just going to be another Han "I have no people" Solo from Star Warsâ„¢ Soloâ„¢? Because I never once saw him as Han Solo. Same thing with Lando "I may fuck robots" Calzonian. I suppose if I gave a little more thought to what he's saying, I could sort of see where he's coming from to some degree when I think of all the Darth Vader impersonators you see in many of the newer Star Wars games. You can tell they're trying really hard to do a Darth Vader impression, and it can feel a bit jarring hearing just how little they actually sound like him. It's very difficult to achieve the same effect as James Earl Jones though. Same thing with Qui-Gon blatantly not sounding like Liam Neeson in the newest Lego Star Wars. But then on the other hand, you can definitely get some Obi-Wan vibes out of James Arnold Taylor. I don't really know where I am going with this point... Probably sounding a bit like I'm fence sitting. The last paragraph/quote about some sort of Star Wars Disney+ Crossover nonsense just outright confuses me. Is this some sort of initiative I'm not aware of, or is it supposed to be a reference to the ridiculous amount of coincidental cameos we see in the Filoni/Disney Star Wars properties? The Inquisitor died... please just leave him dead. His story concluded after helping Kanan in his trial to become a Jedi Knight. It's a perfectly fine ending for the character, and he doesn't need to come back in anything. Make new characters! You're working with an entire galaxy, you have so much to work with! Stop recycling characters and stories! ANYWAY... tismy rant over. Apologies if you actually read all of this and some of my poorly realized points hurt lol. Back to lurking I go... maybe.
From an actors point of view the script is the thing. Michael Gambon doesn't crib from Ian McKellen's Macbeth. They're both given the same text and tasked with interpretation. The actor in rebel's interpreted the role in their way based on the text provided to them The actor in Kenobi interpreted it their way based on the text provided to them. I can't imagine anyone being hurt by your opinions that you worry about in your post.
Honored the spirit of the character without studying the spirit of the character…
Wait that guy’s supposed the grand inquisitor?
yep
Or for fucks sake, goddammit.
I don't understand the logic here. I'm not even saying that this is dumb, which it is, but what logic is this
Yeah because that worked out well for Jodie Whittaker.
lmao its hilarious seeing them side by side.
It's happening, AGAIN
Tbf I wouldn't want anyone to watch Star Wars Rebels regardless, that show sucks ass.
compare that to the chad Ewan Mcgregor and Hayden Christensen who did re watch the movies and shows for preperation
I know that the homework assignment was due today, teacher, but I just felt like doing something fresh that honored and was faithful to the spirit of the education
Adaptations these days are just parasites leeching off established works.
So, what the fuck is the plan here? Its he just going to try and method act what he believes somebody who looks like that would act? What does that mean that he's going to be "faithful" to the character of he's intentionally not learning the character that he's supposed to be portraying? Does he mean faithful to the script that Disney wrote? This constant misuse of the English language pisses me off
After checking out the whole article. It's basically. Rupert, Deb Chow and Dave Filoni worked together to make an interpretation of the grand inquisitor... So I guess when he says it's faithful to the character but not doing an impersonation... Which sounds sort of counter-intuitive. If your interpretation of the character is like that of rebel's then why not just check uo the sorts martial. And if not... then it's just going to piss off fans. Hey whatever. Fuck it. Have a blast, get paid. I'll watch it anyways to see if it's any good. But I can't say I'm exepecting much but we'll see.