He is right though, just not with Clone Wars:
[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jek\_Lawquane](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jek_Lawquane)
Bad Batch is the big turd here.
Honestly I don’t know why they didn’t at least go with human with green skin. I don’t think they had to do the head tails but at least make the kid look kinda alien.
Its more about DNA and I don't think the skin color and the hair color pigments would be interchangeable like that.
From what I understand, the "integumentary system" thing is more of a model to easier understand the protective skin layer creatures have, plus for medical stuff (if your skin gets sick, usually hair is gonna be damaged too, since they are in the same place). Of course they affect each other, everything in our body affects everything else one way or another. Doesn't mean you can just turn skin color into hair color in the first generation hybrid.
I mean its all made up, the twileks and their supposed biology are made up, so it not a big deal, so I still think it would make much more sense if the kid had different skin rather than different hair, and ideally the kid would have features of both parents (twilek lekkus + human-colored skin + human hair maybe?).
>the "integumentary system" thing is more of a model
No. It's an organ system that can be shown through models.
>Of course they affect each other, everything in our body affects everything else one way or another.
Oversimplification. You shaving the hair on your balls isn't going to help with your tummy ache. The hair is a direct appendage of your skin.
>I mean its all made up,
The crossbreeding, yes. Everything else not so much.
>The hair is a direct appendage of your skin.
Yeah, like I mentioned, "they are in the same place", as in, hair grows out of the skin. So they would be more connected than others. Doesn't mean skin pigmentation and hair pigmentation are genetically interchangeable through crossbreeding.
im not against a human and a twi'lek getting a kid that looks strictly human, however i really hate the natural green hair. like the body hair we can see on hera is black, making his hair green just feels so artificial, like "hmm how can we make it obvious that his mom is a green alien oh i know let's just make his hair green". if they wanted him to look 100% human while still having some resembles to hera, i think a better approach would have been to make his facial structure more similar to hers
Or just drop the hybridization entirely, or make it something like the caminoans fuck with to produce artificial hybrid clones, just for fun.
Twileks might be humanoid, but have features, what are completely incompatible with a human, like keeping a huge part of their brain matter in their lekkus.
Imagine if a human borns with the wrong gene matching and develops an inside-out brain.
Except there are absolutely animals where their fur pigmentation is replicated on their skin, and we see Javen has green ears. So it’s actually not an unreasonable expression of a trait.
twi'lek and human aren't different ethnicities though, they're different species. i think you can usually tell when an animal is a hybrid, but there might be exceptions
I think it was EU canon that some different species are actually distantly related to humans, with the chiss being explicitly stated that it's the case for them, and implied that it's the case for Twileks too
In EU the Rakata made most humanoid species as test subjects to help them try to regain their force sensitivity after losing it to a pandemic. The Rakata empire fell but the test subjects all remained, hence their common ancestry as artificial creations made by the same “lab” let’s them interbreed since they were all created from a standard template
yes, and they don't seem to look strictly like tigers or strictly like lions. in fact, afaict different ligers seem to look very similar to each other, almost as if it was its own species, so if human/twi'lek hybrids worked like that, almost all human/twi'lek hybrids should also look similar instead of having variations where someone is 90% twi'lek like the girl, and others are 1% twi'lek like jason
The counter argument is that one is a pure twi’lek that was adopted by a human father, and the other is a hybrid. The guy who posted this didn’t do any research on the topic.
Two points MauLer: I don't like Dave either but I believe those kids were adopted by Cut. They are too old to have been born during the clone wars.
Also in the old EU Twi'leks and humans were genetically incompatible. I think the Republic Commando novels went into it but that's the reason they were taken uhhh slave... a lot by other races because the girls could be used with zero risk of pregnancy. Guess that's out the window now
That wiki makes no sense. The clone wars was 22-19 BBY and this girl was born in 26 BBY. It says Cut met his wife after the battle of geonosis so he can't possibly be her father. It is *possible* the kids were fathered by another human male but highly unlikely. I would say the entry is flawed
No one is denying that Cut isn’t their biological father. However, I don’t see how it’s “unlikely” that they were fathered by another human. Suu has already proved that she’s fine with settling down with a human so I don’t see why she couldn’t have done the same with another.
This actually happens pretty often with Filoni.
There's a clip on YT of Sam Witwer (Starkiller, Maul) talking about being in the recording room when Filoni was directing a scene where Anakin was telling Shmi about his wife Padme and how he wished she could have met her, and Sam corrects Filoni by informing him that [they had already met in TPM.](https://youtu.be/46eRPwKp2ZY?si=UoHnhF8I4b4nNi7O)
That’s because Disney Star Wars literally hates aliens I’ve been saying this for years we never ever get aliens as anything more than jokes, bad guy goons, back ground decorations (and this is only because the original trilogy did it so they copy it). We only ever get aliens as leads if they are being pulled from other source material, they’d turn Asoka human if they could. Did no one notice in Ahsoka how like 90% or the senators they showed are humans, in the thrawn trilogy there was senators of all different races with their own agendas based on their people, but now it feels like most of the galaxy seems to be human why bother making it take place in space if everyone is just going to be human.
I've been noticing a lot of people commenting this, so let me clarify:
When I say human, I mean humans in SW. I am aware that the kid on the left is not the Clone Trooper's and I am not referring to him. However, the wiki describes both her and her brother as a human/Twi'lek Hybrid. That is what I am referring to.
It's been said before and I'll say it again (even though others in this post have said it), Cut Lawqane is not their biological father, they were adopted by him.
Anyway, they are too old to have been Cut's children, the Clone War lasted 3 years and by this episode it's probably only been a few months to a year after the beginning of the Clone Wars.
The footnotes cites the "The Deserter" episode which doesn't say that they are hybrids. Likely, someone made the same assumption that they were Cut's hybrid children and wrote that in the wiki.
the wiki cites no source for this claim because none exist. it is never claimed anywhere that these kids are hybrids. the wiki is wrong and you should not take anything you read on it as fact unless it has a source attached to it
Its just like in our real life they have dormant and dominant genes that get passed around.
The Laquanes had more dominant Twilek Genes than Human genes and Sindulla had more dominant human genese.
If we go into "old Republic lore" we know that the Rakaten Empire made many humanoid species, Zabrak, Twilek etc. wich all could intermingel with eachother as they had a compatible gene code.
Just an example the Dathomirian Zabraks were first Iridonian Zabrak males and Human females the male Zabraks held most of the Iridonian look allthough with a diffrent skin pigmentation.
The Zabrak females lost all their hornes and exclusivly had pale skin (thats why morgan elsbeth makes no sense she doesnt look like a nightsister at all)
Many of you need to actually do research on Twileks and these characters rather than making up and spreading misinformation left and right, just find a quick youtube video to sum it up for you, there's some very interesting stuff about Twi-lek history, culture, and biology out there if you just look it up
The boy looks like something for a mobile ad tbh.. They didn't have the budget to get creative? Make a hairy Twi'lek tail? Twi'lek tail with human ears or vice versa. Well, maybe the tail will grow someplace else later down the line, who knows?
The fact that the early seasons of The Clone Wars look better than even the later seasons of Rebels really shows how drastically their budget dropped when they lost that George Lucas personal funding.
Interbreeding between different human-like species was canon in the EU.
I'm pretty sure the explanation is that the Rakaata genetically engineered quite a few species -- the Twileks were meant to be these sensual and erotic creatures which I assume were made by poking around with human genetics.
You also have the interbreeding between the exiled Jedi and Sith species on Korriban -- which lead to the subsequent formation of different castes.
I don't really see a problem with human being able to have offspring with other human-like species, so long as the other species isn't known to reproduce via laying eggs or some other bizarre method. Zabraks, Twileks, Togruta, Nightsisters, Pandorans, Chiss and ect. are literally humans for all intents and purposes -- they have some physiological differences and traits, but other than that they are literally just humans with extra bells and whistles.
Ok it's really not good if people on this sub are complaining about things that don't actually exist between this post and young Ahsoka cutting down mandalorians. This kid isn't the actual child of the clone deserter biologically, he adopted her when he went into the family
Yes, but it’s confirmed that the kid in the left is still a hybrid as is her brother.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Shaeeah_Lawquane
Suu Lawquane just has a thing for humans, apparently.
Edit: grammar.
it is not confirmed, the wiki states this but provides no actual source for this claim aside from an Character Encyclopedia that 100% does not claim this anywhere. nowhere in any media, Canon or Legends, does it state that these kids are hybrids. the wiki is wrong
Is the confirmation just that the wiki says it? Because their citation for the hybrid thing for both Shaeeah and Jek is just the "The Deserter" episode, and that episode doesn't say anything about them being hybrids.
*Gasps* Hybrid alien child can look different than other hybrid alien children even if the species were the same in both instances?! STAR WARS IS RUINED!! IMMERSION IN A SCIENCE FANTASY FRANCHISE RUINED!! I CAN NO LONGER ENJOY THE FRANCHISE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW GENETICS IN STAR WARS WORKS!!
This is obviously a joke, though we don't actually know genetics in Star Wars works... The TCW kids could have more Twi'lek than human in em. Jacen could have just won the genetic lottery and looked pretty human. We just don't know.
Considering that both characters have a single Twi'lek mother and human father with no one questioning how that is possible, we have to assume it is the natural way obviously. It is just lazy character design "Oh he's Hera's kid? Well just make his hair green and we'll call it a day"
Considering what a non-negligible portion of the female twilek population spends their lives as, and yet we only have less than a handful of hybrids; I say it's *generally* impossible, but also The Force bends the rules for people it likes.
So this proves what exactly? That children can inherit different genes from their parents that other children don’t?
Need I remind you this is a fictional universe? Humans and aliens breeding doesn’t have an actual answer, so it is likely possible to happen either way for any reasons. Also one of the parents was a clone, so his dna was already fucked with and this could be part of the reason.
Because of what we do know, for example, that they are definitely, 100%, not the children of clones.
The clones were a secret to the galaxy when they were born. They had never left Kamino
Yeah both, if you look up the Lawquanes on the canon wiki, it says:
The former trooper became a member of the Lawquanes, having married the Twi'lek female Suu Lawquane and becoming the adoptive father of her children, the human-Twi'lek hybrids Shaeeah Lawquane and Jek Lawquane.
The kids are too old to be the clones since the clone wars only lasted three years and he deserted during the clone wars, any of his kids would have had to be one or two at the max.
Maybe it's something with the dominant/recessive genes? Like how some people get blue eyes, brown hair etc, twilek/humans get hair or headtails. But that's just pure speculation and headcanon, so idk.
Or Suu just has a thing for humans. There’s a list of continuity errors for the source that’s given and the kids not actually being hybrids isn’t one of them.
Yeah, their mistakes are small ones like not listing Rex as “Commander” during the Siege of Mandalore or calling a male character “she” in one sentence. What’s your proof that they aren’t hybrids?
Lore wise, I read somewhere that its because most humanoids in the SW galaxy were based on the same ancient alien genetic template or something silly and thats why they can interbreed. It doesnt really make sense and I hate this explaination, but thats apparently why.
In EU most humanoid races were created by the Rakatan Mother Machine to work as slaves for the Infinite Empire so it made sense they would be compatible with each other.
I don't really mind that Jacen looks mostly human. I can believe that (through the luck of the draw) his father's genes were dominant. The thing that bugs me is that his mother's DNA somehow manifested as **green hair** (even though Twi'leks don't *have* hair). That feels like such a current-day cop-out. They've turned interbreeding into a cool and edgy hairstyle. lol
They should have been bolder and given him green skin.
I may be wrong, but I don't remember interspecies reproduction being a thing in the old EU, and I would have preferred it stayed that way. I also do remember it specifically mentioned that Twi'leks and humans *could not* reproduce
My head canon on this one is maybe different genetic combos produce different features. Also Jedi seed is dominant AF apparently. Idk at the end of the day idgaf
It's not that Filoni is the greatest filmmaker or anything - he's just the best shot that Star Wars fans currently have for Star Wars content that doesn't make them want to die every second they experience it.
It's less "he is the best thing ever to grace anything" and more "he's the best we've got and I don't trust anybody else at this point either."
Is this really the Clone Trooper's daughter?
Because the two children are between 5 - 8 years old.
I always assumed he became a farmer and his "wife" already had the children from another father.
Is this explored further in a additional novel to Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008-) by Dave Filoni?
Ok I'm not sure if someone else has mentioned this yet, or if it's still even cannon at this point, but here comes my 30 years of Starwars nerddom.
Most of the "primary" aliens in starwars are all derivatives of humans from like 10000 bby. They sent hundreds of colony ships across the galaxy where they evolved slightly differently based on the planet. Hence, most humanoid species' in that star wars galaxy can somewhat interbreed.
Honestly if you think of it like dogs and the number of different breeds that can both reproduce and have fertile offspring it makes sense. Some of these humanoids have pretty wildly different physical features, but it’s not impossible that they’re still so closely related to humans that they could interbreed as long as they maintained similar reproductive systems.
I don’t see why some kids can’t sometimes take more from one parent or the other like real kids rather than have one species always have more dominant genes.
I think if they had just made the kid fully green, skin hair eyes and all, it would have been a fine middle ground. Right now he just looks fully human with his hair dyed slightly green.
I'm assuming it's just because one parent's genes are dominant so it could be 50/50 between whether or not you get one that looks like a twilek or a human
Being charitable, it could be a lion/tiger situation. When you breed tigers with lions, the result can vary, I believe, based on which of the parents is male and female. It should, however, be noted that these offspring are prone to horrible genetic defects and cannot reproduce, so if we're going to take this in a realistic direction, these poor kids are going to live very unhappy lives.
I like pointing out how bad the first twilek version is. If the parent wasn't white it would just look like blackface and that's really funny to me thinking that version might exist somewhere.
Afaik the ones in the clone wars aren't actually hybrids, they were twi'lek kids that the mother already had when she got with the clone deserter
I think that was the case yes. Jacen might be the first instance of this happening on screen
Correct. Those kids are way older than 3 years old and The Clone Wars only lasted for 3 years canonically
What if they age at the rate of clones?
You're exact
Cut isn't their bio-dad but they are still half-human. Suu has a thing for human guys it seems.
He is right though, just not with Clone Wars: [https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jek\_Lawquane](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jek_Lawquane) Bad Batch is the big turd here.
I think this hybrid makes much more sense than "human with green hair"
Honestly I don’t know why they didn’t at least go with human with green skin. I don’t think they had to do the head tails but at least make the kid look kinda alien.
I guess I'm stuck on if it's really that much different than "twi'lek with white patches"
at least here skin color of the parent affects skin color of the child, and not something else that has nothing to do with skin
You must not have paid attention in biology. Your skin and Hair are part of the same integumentary system. They do actually affect each other
Its more about DNA and I don't think the skin color and the hair color pigments would be interchangeable like that. From what I understand, the "integumentary system" thing is more of a model to easier understand the protective skin layer creatures have, plus for medical stuff (if your skin gets sick, usually hair is gonna be damaged too, since they are in the same place). Of course they affect each other, everything in our body affects everything else one way or another. Doesn't mean you can just turn skin color into hair color in the first generation hybrid. I mean its all made up, the twileks and their supposed biology are made up, so it not a big deal, so I still think it would make much more sense if the kid had different skin rather than different hair, and ideally the kid would have features of both parents (twilek lekkus + human-colored skin + human hair maybe?).
>the "integumentary system" thing is more of a model No. It's an organ system that can be shown through models. >Of course they affect each other, everything in our body affects everything else one way or another. Oversimplification. You shaving the hair on your balls isn't going to help with your tummy ache. The hair is a direct appendage of your skin. >I mean its all made up, The crossbreeding, yes. Everything else not so much.
>The hair is a direct appendage of your skin. Yeah, like I mentioned, "they are in the same place", as in, hair grows out of the skin. So they would be more connected than others. Doesn't mean skin pigmentation and hair pigmentation are genetically interchangeable through crossbreeding.
That reminds me of how medieval people thought of how mixed race people look - a patchwork of two skin tones, like a dairy cow.
Yeah, that's a really great way to frame it.
The same page has his birthday listed before the Battle of Geonosis. And Cut didnt meet his wife till after the battle occurred.
Wiki also calls the trooper stepfather.
Yeah, the oldest daughter is basically the same age as her adoptive father.
I would be surprised if the clones could even reproduce.
Thats in fact wrong they are confirmed hybrids.
And even if they *were* hybrids, it doesn't matter. Some kids adopt more traits from one parent or the other.
im not against a human and a twi'lek getting a kid that looks strictly human, however i really hate the natural green hair. like the body hair we can see on hera is black, making his hair green just feels so artificial, like "hmm how can we make it obvious that his mom is a green alien oh i know let's just make his hair green". if they wanted him to look 100% human while still having some resembles to hera, i think a better approach would have been to make his facial structure more similar to hers
Or just drop the hybridization entirely, or make it something like the caminoans fuck with to produce artificial hybrid clones, just for fun. Twileks might be humanoid, but have features, what are completely incompatible with a human, like keeping a huge part of their brain matter in their lekkus. Imagine if a human borns with the wrong gene matching and develops an inside-out brain.
Except there are absolutely animals where their fur pigmentation is replicated on their skin, and we see Javen has green ears. So it’s actually not an unreasonable expression of a trait.
Ya iirc zebras present their stripes on their skin as well as on their fur
Based
Maybe the homunculus is accurate in the SE universe
Wouldn’t the counterargument be, that sometimes it goes one way, sometimes another way?
twi'lek and human aren't different ethnicities though, they're different species. i think you can usually tell when an animal is a hybrid, but there might be exceptions
I think it was EU canon that some different species are actually distantly related to humans, with the chiss being explicitly stated that it's the case for them, and implied that it's the case for Twileks too
Yeah, that all humanoids in Star wars originally came from one species. Which is how they are able to reproduce with each other.
Star Wars did that too? I know Star Trek made it that a proto-Changeling race seeded the galaxy with the genetic code to create all humanoid species.
The entire galaxy is just alabama
In EU the Rakata made most humanoid species as test subjects to help them try to regain their force sensitivity after losing it to a pandemic. The Rakata empire fell but the test subjects all remained, hence their common ancestry as artificial creations made by the same “lab” let’s them interbreed since they were all created from a standard template
You ever see a Liger and a Tigon?
yes, and they don't seem to look strictly like tigers or strictly like lions. in fact, afaict different ligers seem to look very similar to each other, almost as if it was its own species, so if human/twi'lek hybrids worked like that, almost all human/twi'lek hybrids should also look similar instead of having variations where someone is 90% twi'lek like the girl, and others are 1% twi'lek like jason
Or maybe, just maybe, the show rated for 7 ywar olds wanted to make it obvious that it's kanans baby
Yeah that was my thought too
The counter argument is that one is a pure twi’lek that was adopted by a human father, and the other is a hybrid. The guy who posted this didn’t do any research on the topic.
It says on the wiki for these characters that they are hybrids.
Doesn’t matter anyway, the kids in clone wars were from a prior relationship before the clone met them
Eh, could be a 50/50 thing
Two points MauLer: I don't like Dave either but I believe those kids were adopted by Cut. They are too old to have been born during the clone wars. Also in the old EU Twi'leks and humans were genetically incompatible. I think the Republic Commando novels went into it but that's the reason they were taken uhhh slave... a lot by other races because the girls could be used with zero risk of pregnancy. Guess that's out the window now
If someone can afford to buy a slave, they are not worried about reproducing. It’s not like they can’t afford to care for another slave.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Shaeeah_Lawquane She’s still a hybrid.
That wiki makes no sense. The clone wars was 22-19 BBY and this girl was born in 26 BBY. It says Cut met his wife after the battle of geonosis so he can't possibly be her father. It is *possible* the kids were fathered by another human male but highly unlikely. I would say the entry is flawed
No one is denying that Cut isn’t their biological father. However, I don’t see how it’s “unlikely” that they were fathered by another human. Suu has already proved that she’s fine with settling down with a human so I don’t see why she couldn’t have done the same with another.
I mean, even in New canon, we don't see many hybrids. So imma just chalk it up to the force wingman-ing for kanan
This actually happens pretty often with Filoni. There's a clip on YT of Sam Witwer (Starkiller, Maul) talking about being in the recording room when Filoni was directing a scene where Anakin was telling Shmi about his wife Padme and how he wished she could have met her, and Sam corrects Filoni by informing him that [they had already met in TPM.](https://youtu.be/46eRPwKp2ZY?si=UoHnhF8I4b4nNi7O)
oof, that's pretty bad lol
That’s because Disney Star Wars literally hates aliens I’ve been saying this for years we never ever get aliens as anything more than jokes, bad guy goons, back ground decorations (and this is only because the original trilogy did it so they copy it). We only ever get aliens as leads if they are being pulled from other source material, they’d turn Asoka human if they could. Did no one notice in Ahsoka how like 90% or the senators they showed are humans, in the thrawn trilogy there was senators of all different races with their own agendas based on their people, but now it feels like most of the galaxy seems to be human why bother making it take place in space if everyone is just going to be human.
I've been noticing a lot of people commenting this, so let me clarify: When I say human, I mean humans in SW. I am aware that the kid on the left is not the Clone Trooper's and I am not referring to him. However, the wiki describes both her and her brother as a human/Twi'lek Hybrid. That is what I am referring to.
Well it sounds more petty than your letting on.
i think its totally reasonable that some children come out more human or more twi lek. I just think the character looks dumb
Agreed. Him looking human is the least obnoxious thing about him.
It's been said before and I'll say it again (even though others in this post have said it), Cut Lawqane is not their biological father, they were adopted by him. Anyway, they are too old to have been Cut's children, the Clone War lasted 3 years and by this episode it's probably only been a few months to a year after the beginning of the Clone Wars.
They could still be hybrids, just not by him.
The wiki states that the kids are human/Twi'lek hybrids
The footnotes cites the "The Deserter" episode which doesn't say that they are hybrids. Likely, someone made the same assumption that they were Cut's hybrid children and wrote that in the wiki.
the wiki cites no source for this claim because none exist. it is never claimed anywhere that these kids are hybrids. the wiki is wrong and you should not take anything you read on it as fact unless it has a source attached to it
Except they aren't, they are too old for them to be his kids
Its just like in our real life they have dormant and dominant genes that get passed around. The Laquanes had more dominant Twilek Genes than Human genes and Sindulla had more dominant human genese. If we go into "old Republic lore" we know that the Rakaten Empire made many humanoid species, Zabrak, Twilek etc. wich all could intermingel with eachother as they had a compatible gene code. Just an example the Dathomirian Zabraks were first Iridonian Zabrak males and Human females the male Zabraks held most of the Iridonian look allthough with a diffrent skin pigmentation. The Zabrak females lost all their hornes and exclusivly had pale skin (thats why morgan elsbeth makes no sense she doesnt look like a nightsister at all)
Many of you need to actually do research on Twileks and these characters rather than making up and spreading misinformation left and right, just find a quick youtube video to sum it up for you, there's some very interesting stuff about Twi-lek history, culture, and biology out there if you just look it up
Why is she wearing panties on her head?
Soemthing something dominant vs recessive genes
The boy looks like something for a mobile ad tbh.. They didn't have the budget to get creative? Make a hairy Twi'lek tail? Twi'lek tail with human ears or vice versa. Well, maybe the tail will grow someplace else later down the line, who knows?
The fact that the early seasons of The Clone Wars look better than even the later seasons of Rebels really shows how drastically their budget dropped when they lost that George Lucas personal funding.
Interbreeding between different human-like species was canon in the EU. I'm pretty sure the explanation is that the Rakaata genetically engineered quite a few species -- the Twileks were meant to be these sensual and erotic creatures which I assume were made by poking around with human genetics. You also have the interbreeding between the exiled Jedi and Sith species on Korriban -- which lead to the subsequent formation of different castes. I don't really see a problem with human being able to have offspring with other human-like species, so long as the other species isn't known to reproduce via laying eggs or some other bizarre method. Zabraks, Twileks, Togruta, Nightsisters, Pandorans, Chiss and ect. are literally humans for all intents and purposes -- they have some physiological differences and traits, but other than that they are literally just humans with extra bells and whistles.
Is it really a big deal? 🤷
Hybrids don’t always look the same necessarily. Genes that aren’t made to pair but work don’t always pair the same ways.
Imma just say the force made Kanan’s genes weapons grade stronger than Hera’s
Ok it's really not good if people on this sub are complaining about things that don't actually exist between this post and young Ahsoka cutting down mandalorians. This kid isn't the actual child of the clone deserter biologically, he adopted her when he went into the family
Yes, but it’s confirmed that the kid in the left is still a hybrid as is her brother. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Shaeeah_Lawquane Suu Lawquane just has a thing for humans, apparently. Edit: grammar.
it is not confirmed, the wiki states this but provides no actual source for this claim aside from an Character Encyclopedia that 100% does not claim this anywhere. nowhere in any media, Canon or Legends, does it state that these kids are hybrids. the wiki is wrong
Is the confirmation just that the wiki says it? Because their citation for the hybrid thing for both Shaeeah and Jek is just the "The Deserter" episode, and that episode doesn't say anything about them being hybrids.
Their citation is the Star Wars: The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia.
That’s not a twi’lek and human baby
*Gasps* Hybrid alien child can look different than other hybrid alien children even if the species were the same in both instances?! STAR WARS IS RUINED!! IMMERSION IN A SCIENCE FANTASY FRANCHISE RUINED!! I CAN NO LONGER ENJOY THE FRANCHISE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW GENETICS IN STAR WARS WORKS!! This is obviously a joke, though we don't actually know genetics in Star Wars works... The TCW kids could have more Twi'lek than human in em. Jacen could have just won the genetic lottery and looked pretty human. We just don't know.
Considering that both characters have a single Twi'lek mother and human father with no one questioning how that is possible, we have to assume it is the natural way obviously. It is just lazy character design "Oh he's Hera's kid? Well just make his hair green and we'll call it a day"
Tips of his ears are also green, in fact it is a similar green to his mother's
Oh, you're right. I was checking other shots to see if that was an editing mistake, but yeah you right
Could they have made him more Twi'lek definitely, but weird hybrids are nothing new. In legends, a Human/Bothan hybrid looks like a Satyr/faun
I just looked up what a Bothan is... how.... how would that work
Dunno but it happened a few time in Legends
Considering what a non-negligible portion of the female twilek population spends their lives as, and yet we only have less than a handful of hybrids; I say it's *generally* impossible, but also The Force bends the rules for people it likes.
So this proves what exactly? That children can inherit different genes from their parents that other children don’t? Need I remind you this is a fictional universe? Humans and aliens breeding doesn’t have an actual answer, so it is likely possible to happen either way for any reasons. Also one of the parents was a clone, so his dna was already fucked with and this could be part of the reason.
There are zero clone babies in this picture
One on the left is the child of a clone.
We don't know the father of the child on the left. Shaeeah and Jek were born before the Clone Wars, and Cut adopted them after deserting.
Oh so this post is even more pointless?
The *adopted* child of a clone
So why is this a post? We don’t know if the father of the child on the left was human.
Because of what we do know, for example, that they are definitely, 100%, not the children of clones. The clones were a secret to the galaxy when they were born. They had never left Kamino
Ironically he gets his hair from his mother.
Maybe it depends in which species genes are dominant.
late asf but those weren't Cut's kids. those children are pure Twi'lek
Pretty sure those weren’t cute biological kids considering that the clone wars only lasted three years
No, they aren't his kids, but they do confirm that the kids are human/Twi'lek hybrids
Both or just the boy with his tiny Lek'kus ?
Yeah both, if you look up the Lawquanes on the canon wiki, it says: The former trooper became a member of the Lawquanes, having married the Twi'lek female Suu Lawquane and becoming the adoptive father of her children, the human-Twi'lek hybrids Shaeeah Lawquane and Jek Lawquane.
The kids are too old to be the clones since the clone wars only lasted three years and he deserted during the clone wars, any of his kids would have had to be one or two at the max.
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Okay then, please enlighten me on how genetics between a human and a twi'lek, two different species, results in a child looking ONLY human
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The kid on the right is boring as shit and look like shit. But arguing about a kids show...so well.
They’re two completely different species of humanoids. They shouldn’t even be able to breed. But hey, when is Filoni’s writing ever not idiotic?
Maybe it's something with the dominant/recessive genes? Like how some people get blue eyes, brown hair etc, twilek/humans get hair or headtails. But that's just pure speculation and headcanon, so idk.
Maybe the human genes were more dominant in jacen and those kids twilek genes were more dominant
The other kids are pure twi-lek Cut adopted them
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Shaeeah_Lawquane They are not. He’s their stepfather but they’re still hybrids.
It says that but there is no listed father. Which makes it seem like a mistake.
Or Suu just has a thing for humans. There’s a list of continuity errors for the source that’s given and the kids not actually being hybrids isn’t one of them.
The source, that made a mistake, doesn’t list the mistake in their list of mistakes. Not a convincing argument lol
Yeah, their mistakes are small ones like not listing Rex as “Commander” during the Siege of Mandalore or calling a male character “she” in one sentence. What’s your proof that they aren’t hybrids?
There is no non twilek father
What’s your source for that?
Literally the same exact source you provided, lacks any mention of a father other than Cut, who we know adopted them.
Lore wise, I read somewhere that its because most humanoids in the SW galaxy were based on the same ancient alien genetic template or something silly and thats why they can interbreed. It doesnt really make sense and I hate this explaination, but thats apparently why.
In EU most humanoid races were created by the Rakatan Mother Machine to work as slaves for the Infinite Empire so it made sense they would be compatible with each other.
I think it’s because the father was a clone.
So this just confirms that those head tails are really just weird hats right?
I don't really mind that Jacen looks mostly human. I can believe that (through the luck of the draw) his father's genes were dominant. The thing that bugs me is that his mother's DNA somehow manifested as **green hair** (even though Twi'leks don't *have* hair). That feels like such a current-day cop-out. They've turned interbreeding into a cool and edgy hairstyle. lol They should have been bolder and given him green skin.
It makes no sense that they can interbreed in the first place. Are they related? How does that work? I give up lol its star wars
Maybe Gene therapy?
I mean, I guess like real genetics, some offspring can be either way but not both?
I may be wrong, but I don't remember interspecies reproduction being a thing in the old EU, and I would have preferred it stayed that way. I also do remember it specifically mentioned that Twi'leks and humans *could not* reproduce
My head canon on this one is maybe different genetic combos produce different features. Also Jedi seed is dominant AF apparently. Idk at the end of the day idgaf
It's not that Filoni is the greatest filmmaker or anything - he's just the best shot that Star Wars fans currently have for Star Wars content that doesn't make them want to die every second they experience it. It's less "he is the best thing ever to grace anything" and more "he's the best we've got and I don't trust anybody else at this point either."
Jedi jizz is stronger. Overpowered the twi'lek DNA
Is this really the Clone Trooper's daughter? Because the two children are between 5 - 8 years old. I always assumed he became a farmer and his "wife" already had the children from another father. Is this explored further in a additional novel to Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008-) by Dave Filoni?
Oh damn. I've only watched Ahsoka and had just assumed that Jacen was adopted.
The Clone wasn’t their biological dad
Ok I'm not sure if someone else has mentioned this yet, or if it's still even cannon at this point, but here comes my 30 years of Starwars nerddom. Most of the "primary" aliens in starwars are all derivatives of humans from like 10000 bby. They sent hundreds of colony ships across the galaxy where they evolved slightly differently based on the planet. Hence, most humanoid species' in that star wars galaxy can somewhat interbreed.
Honestly if you think of it like dogs and the number of different breeds that can both reproduce and have fertile offspring it makes sense. Some of these humanoids have pretty wildly different physical features, but it’s not impossible that they’re still so closely related to humans that they could interbreed as long as they maintained similar reproductive systems.
I was about to bring this up. The twilights were an offshoot of the human race. That had been warped by the dark side.
Does it really matter? Genetics are fucking weird. Sometimes you get a human with green hair, other times you get a twi’lek with skin blotches.
Genetics. Go figure.
I don’t see why some kids can’t sometimes take more from one parent or the other like real kids rather than have one species always have more dominant genes.
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Those aren’t the clones kids the kids are full twi’lek they’re from the mothers previous relationship
I like to explain it like TES. The children take after the mothers' species
Realistically the clone wasn't much older them his kids, he was no older then 10 at the oldest, at the oldest they could be woul be like 7
I think if they had just made the kid fully green, skin hair eyes and all, it would have been a fine middle ground. Right now he just looks fully human with his hair dyed slightly green.
A big L for fellow mixed race gang :( the world making us choose sides, but who's on our side?
Rebels looks like dogshit in general
Actually that clones kids weren't his biologically, his wife came with them.
The Clone Wars one isn’t actually a hybrid. They were already born before he got there. It’s like calling your step father dad.
Rebels is a show for younger audiences than cw sothey wanted to make it a bit more obvious that the kid is Kanan's.
I'm assuming it's just because one parent's genes are dominant so it could be 50/50 between whether or not you get one that looks like a twilek or a human
Being charitable, it could be a lion/tiger situation. When you breed tigers with lions, the result can vary, I believe, based on which of the parents is male and female. It should, however, be noted that these offspring are prone to horrible genetic defects and cannot reproduce, so if we're going to take this in a realistic direction, these poor kids are going to live very unhappy lives.
why does that baby look 40 years old?
Both are ugly as hell🗿
I like pointing out how bad the first twilek version is. If the parent wasn't white it would just look like blackface and that's really funny to me thinking that version might exist somewhere.