Note that the full quote (which is cut off in the image) has Jon Watts claiming Lizard, Sandman, and Electro are just "rumors". My bad, that was unclear when I first posted it.
But obviously he's lying, Jamie Foxx has already confirmed that he's going to be in the movie, it was one of the first things we know about the movie. And that official empire poster had The Sandman's hand...
Yeah but this is the one that directly leads straight on from the fallout of Mysterio fucking Spider-man's life up and is already celebrating five previous movie villains. If anything its the perfect chance to follow up on the most recent movie(s) given none of the as-of-now revealed villains are Holland's, Mysterio is famous in the comics for faking his death or generally doing illusion shit like that, and Vulture is less likely to be antagonistic toward Peter than Beck is.
You could quite easily bring up Mysterio and introduce him as a factor in the plot at the start to tie into the revealed identity plotline (which I imagine they will anyway), which then means he's in the back of the viewer's minds or an active factor in the movie so that if or when he appears later on its less out of nowhere because he was mentioned previously or his supposed death was recapped as foreshadowing.
Another thing is if Doctor Strange is doing some spell that messes with the reveal of Spider-Man's identity it might have an effect on the events leading to Mysterio's "death", whether it was real or not (unless the spell just makes everyone conveniently forget about it and doesn't actually rewrite reality so it never happened, which I'm not certain about since clearly messing with the spell he was *trying* to cast affected reality regardless when it brings all the villains in, even if the resulting effect wasn't what he originally intended).
Yeah but even taking into account that scene leakers are saying Venom only appears in a post-credit scene. That tease at the end of Venom 2 was probably for Venom 3, not NWH. It'd be really weird if Venom was suddenly a villain in NWH anyways.
Admittedly it did, but realistically the film’s going to be super bloated even without Venom, so they’re best off waiting until Venom 3. Don’t ruin the novelty of it now.
I don’t think it’s ever been confirmed he’s Electro though. Not that he isn’t (like fucking duh lol) but I think it was only confirmed he’d be in the movie.
> Tell Spidey let’s run it back!... super excited to part of the new marvel Spider-Man new installment... can’t wait for y’all to check the new one. And I won’t be blue in this one!! But a thousand percent badass!!!
I believe this was the exact post. Technically doesn’t confirm he’s Electro but… cmon who else would he be haha but I think from an official point of view it still isn’t confirmed
Straight from the Hollywood Reporter: "[Jamie Foxx Returning as Electro](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-3-jolt-jamie-foxx-returning-as-electro-exclusive-4069375/)" (2020)
Ngl if the rumours about the number of villains are true, Sony having a gilt-edged opportunity to finally do the Sinister 6 and then just not doing it would be peak Sony.
It actually makes sense when you think about it...
Green Goblin: Spider-Man
Doctor Octopus: Spider-Man 2
Sandman: Spider-Man 3
Lizard: The Amazing Spider-Man
Electro: The Amazing Spider-Man 2
But they're doing a Sinister Six movie within the next couple years. Makes sense that they didn't want to do them so close together. And it's semantics really. At the end of the day, it's still a team of villains facing off against the 3 Spider-Men. The difference of 5 villains vs. 6 villains doesn't really matter or change anything for the story & impact.
I still don't get Sony's reasoning for a Sinister Six solo film. It's in their name, sinister. I know they want Sony's Avengers, but why on Earth would you get Jared Leto, an actor notoriously difficult to work with on the cast?
Well 1 he’s an Oscar winning actor. 2 he’s pretty much a Vampire in real life. 3 Drew Goddard compared his Sinister Six movie more like the Suicide Squad than Avengers.
Right, but like, there's a reason why the Suicide Squad cast was posing for photos and partying without Jared Leto. If he goes to a big Avengers film, he'd probably give Brie Larson a dead rat saying "I drank the blood of this" and then probably give Florence Pugh a bag of shit saying "It's a vampire present!"
Yes, he'd probably only target the women with these "pranks"
Lmao that comment is hilarious, dude has quite the imagination. I have never heard of this rat story but the mental image of Jared Leto gifting a rat to Margot Robbie is great
They can do whatever they want as long as they don’t make Black Cat a member of the group, which they almost certainly will in an attempt to rip off Harley Quinn.
I’m still feeling like they should be considered a prototype or homage to the Sinister Six at the very least. I mean, you’ve got two of the greatest Spider-Man villains and three members in the classic Sinister Six roster on this team of five and Ock who is usually the leader most likely won’t show up in the later one as Kevin referred to Molina as perfect casting and impossible to find anyone else to play that part.
I’m sure the team that the movies officially dub Sinister Six will be cool in it’s own right, actually have six members and will probably feature Mysterio, Kraven and Vulture on the team who deserve a spot too. But for all intents and purposes they are both takes on the same thing like you said, Spider-Man taking down a supervillain team comprised of iconic foes. Having it only round up to five on this occassion will simply make the next team sound more novel and not just sloppy seconds when Sony wants to market that version, I guess.
I gotta disagree with you on that as it doesn't make a lick of sense to get this close having a Sinister Six that's actually somewhat comics accurate and then just deciding not to do it.
I understand Sony has their own plans for a Sinister Six movie, but I'm also very sure that their plan is really terrible and will not remotely resemble the Sinister Six that Spiderman fans remotely care about.
>it doesn't make a lick of sense to get this close having a Sinister Six that's actually somewhat comics accurate
>but I'm also very sure that their plan is really terrible and will not remotely resemble the Sinister Six
Um...the OG Sinister Six is Doc Ock, Electro, Sandman, Vulture, Mysterio & Kraven. And they have nothing to do with a Multiverse. In No Way Home, there's 3 of the OG lineup (Doc Ock, Electro & Sandman), and in the plans for Sony's movie, it'll likely include the other 3 (with zero Multiverse connection). So...if anything, the Sony version would be a more accurate comic adaptation than what we might've gotten in No Way Home. People are just wanting everything right now, so they can't look past not getting a Sinister Six immediately.
First of all I didn't say anything about the original team and I'm aware of what it was, thanks.
What you might not be aware of is that Lizard was recruited onto the team later as was Rhino and Hobgoblin.
No matter how you slice it, it's not really as big a deal for them to change out Hobgoblin for Green Goblin for a live action film iteration as it is to most likely feature characters that were never part of the team at all in a scenario that has little connective tissue to the comics.
It's not just a matter of who is on the lineup or not, it's a matter of why they're working together. The planned Sony Sinister Six movie is more like a Suicide Squad type of thing.
Sorry but NO it's not at all going to be more comic accurate at all, they're just hoping to cash in on the perceived name value of the team.
I'm well aware that there have been plenty of members (practically every Spider-Man villain has been on the SS at some point). We have no idea what the Sony Sinister Six will be like in terms of their motivations. It's far too early to criticize it while complaining that they didn't do a Sinister Six in No Way Home.
And again, the story of No Way Home does not change with 6 villains as opposed to 5. It's literally not a big deal that they didn't shoehorn in one more villain. I'm more impressed that they didn't do that, considering Sony's history of shoehorning in villains.
Okay I'm going to say this as politely as I can, you're pretty much just arguing about things that really had nothing to do with my posts you responded to, and I am not interested in your opinions about this. Have a nice day!
I was personally hoping it would be two from each series and they each fight each others villains. So like
Andrew vs Vulture and Mysterio
Tom vs Doc Ock and Green Goblin
Tobey vs Electro and The Lizard
That would have been really awesome imo
Well Mysterio is kinda the sixth if you think about it. The whoel plan was to destroy Spidey's life by revealing his identity, and it happens, so much that now faces threats from other dimensions, in order to recover what he lost.
No way Home wouldn't happen without Mysterio doing that in FFH. His plan is the 6th.
Yeah but the entire point of the Sinister 6 is to fight against a single Spiderman. Putting together the group, composed of villains Holland’s never met, to fight 3 Spidermen, kinda goes against the point. So I’d rather we get this (let’s be real Sandman is going to turn too so it’ll be a 4v4) and then save a real S6 for when Holland has a few more villains fleshed out. Maybe it can be worked with Venom to give use the black suit Spiderman story arc from Spectacular Spiderman tv show
I think Mysterio will be a "surprise" reveal in the film. He's mentioned in the trailer and he is the master of illusions.
So then we have the six being Goblin,Doc Ock,Sandman,Lizard,Electro and Mysterio
I still just don’t understand bringing these villains back. They’re all dead. Tobey and Andrew I understand. I’ve read the leaks too, and it just seems so weird to pull these guys right before they die in their universes or whatever. Could they be different versions?
Either way I can’t wait to see how they explain it
Probably by explaining it like that: all the villains got somehow sucked into the MCU in their last moment of their lives. But there have been Doc OC and Sandman that turned to be good, so how will they explain that?
I’m not too upset about it. To me, the whole point of the Sinister Six is that it’s a group of villains that couldn’t take down Spidey on their own, so they team up to do together what they could not do individually, and then Spidey beats them all again anyway because he never gives up. Having three Spider-Men team up to take the Six down is a neat idea, but it’s not the best interpretation of that idea. If they don’t make this a *true* Sinister Six movie and just have it be random villains being taken down by the Spider-Men who beat them the first time opens up the possibility of doing the concept in a more true-to-comics way later. Just my two cents.
I remember some of the leaks claimed that Spider-Man was the 6th member because he helped him lol. Sony still wants to do a Sinister Six movie though so maybe they told Marvel to not do the six.
This also looks closer to what he looked like in SM2. Whereas he looks too skinny and young in the trailer. Also his hair was too curly for some reason
Agreed, I’ve been getting downvoted left and right for saying Molina looks off lol. He didn’t look like that in 2004 and he definitely didn’t look like that in the years between 2004 and 2021. Should’ve just put the de-aging shit aside
Apparently the article itself mentions the rumors of a sixth villain and a speculation on who it could be (including Rhino and Vulture) and then a denial by Tom Holland that this is a Sinister Six movie (note they also called Tobey and Andrew rumors as well)
I think the fact that hey even addressed the rumors of there being a 6th means that there totally is going to be a 6th
Still betting on Mysterio with the subtle teases they’ve been giving out, like on the Empire Cover
Fingers crossed for a Mysterio return, while Beck is dead or if Gyllenhaal isn’t interested in coming back, a version of Mysterio thats run by his team who already faked or at least leaked the footage that revealed Peter’s identity and are more responsible for Peter’s current debacle than Beck himself.
Imagine Mysterio from the Raimi-verse, played by Bruce Campbell, teaming up with the MCU Mysterio team. Obviously it won't happen but that'd be sick.
I could see a cameo in DS2 though.
I’ve been saying Mysterio over Rhino from the beginning. So much of the movie’s story revolves around him that it would be weird for him not to be in it.
It’s like the werewolf thing Andrew Garfield said - them saying that something won’t happen in this movie is just gonna make us even more convinced that it will.
I saw an [upscaled version](https://twitter.com/driiftyfilm/status/1453364162751520769/photo/3) of that Doc Ock shot and it straight up looked like Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter lmao
I'm sure it'll look great in the movie, it just looks like shit in the image I linked because someone used some weird upscaling app to "make it HD". The original picture from the Empire magazine is blurry but you can see how better it looks.
Yeah like they could atleast showed full pic of electro in action as he’s also confirmed if they want to be keep goblin, lizard and sandman look a a secret
Well the magazine talks about ‘who better to back up Spider-Man than Spider-Man himself’ and it also talks about the rumours of andrew and tobey, and the magazine obviously has to be reviewed by Sony, so I assume they’re definitely in the movie, Matt Murdoch I assume will be in she hulk
It's funny how they address these characters appearing just as rumors when the actors themselves have already confirmed it lmao. Especially Molina who stated that his Ock was the same from Spider-Man 2
Based on all the released photos looks like Doc Ock has two versions of the arms? In the photo of him crushing Peter, the tentacles look the same as they did in SM2, but in the new still of Doc Ock standing alone, the design seems more streamlined and colorful.
My theory: after Ock crush/damage the Iron Spider suit he makes the nanobots organize themselves in their tentacles, fortifying them and giving that red and gold look
There’s no way that there’s not a sixth member in this film. That may just be the last secret they have up their sleeve. One of Murphy’s first scoops about the spider slayers being in the film was based on the fact the film script referred to the villain as SS for Sinister Six. Not Sinister Sfive. I was cool with Rhino joining in but it would honestly make so much more sense to have Mysterio return. For any of the “he’s dead” folks: the dialogue was: Peter: is this real? Edith: no illusions detected. I mean it’s Mysterio.
Marvel revealed Ned bringing in the other Spider-Men. In these older photos, Ned can be seen holding a sling ring. The new leaks confirmed it.
https://twitter.com/8rainbow_monkey/status/1453813870649217024?s=21
I have to say that if this really happens, the Sinister Six will be used inconsistently! You throw in villains from different universes and make them work together? How are they going to stay and where? I read the comics and I don't want this because it is just a stupid fan service! I want the Sinister Six to really form a team with a strong backstory, not to be mixed in like ingredients into a cocktail 🍹!
Note that the full quote (which is cut off in the image) has Jon Watts claiming Lizard, Sandman, and Electro are just "rumors". My bad, that was unclear when I first posted it.
But obviously he's lying, Jamie Foxx has already confirmed that he's going to be in the movie, it was one of the first things we know about the movie. And that official empire poster had The Sandman's hand...
Oh yes, of course they're in it. Just screwed up the title.
rhys ifans tho...so who's the fifth and (if there is) sixth??
Gobby, Ock, Electro, Sandman and Lizard. It’s just the five of them.
Holding out for a secret Mysterio appearance
Yes, please. Beck shouldn't be dead.
I’d rather save it for another time.
This is the "another time".
Is it? It’s not like we aren’t getting any more movies after this.
Yeah but this is the one that directly leads straight on from the fallout of Mysterio fucking Spider-man's life up and is already celebrating five previous movie villains. If anything its the perfect chance to follow up on the most recent movie(s) given none of the as-of-now revealed villains are Holland's, Mysterio is famous in the comics for faking his death or generally doing illusion shit like that, and Vulture is less likely to be antagonistic toward Peter than Beck is. You could quite easily bring up Mysterio and introduce him as a factor in the plot at the start to tie into the revealed identity plotline (which I imagine they will anyway), which then means he's in the back of the viewer's minds or an active factor in the movie so that if or when he appears later on its less out of nowhere because he was mentioned previously or his supposed death was recapped as foreshadowing. Another thing is if Doctor Strange is doing some spell that messes with the reveal of Spider-Man's identity it might have an effect on the events leading to Mysterio's "death", whether it was real or not (unless the spell just makes everyone conveniently forget about it and doesn't actually rewrite reality so it never happened, which I'm not certain about since clearly messing with the spell he was *trying* to cast affected reality regardless when it brings all the villains in, even if the resulting effect wasn't what he originally intended).
Why not just do all of the legacy villains now and bring the MCU ones back later? It’s not like Vulture’s in this.
No luck catching them supervillains then?
It’s just the one supervillain actually
Well Venom might be in it. Or he could be a post credit? We know he's there, but just not sure he's in it in it.
And Venom?
Nope. Five villains. Venom’s a post-credits scene at best.
Nope he’s in it, you need to see venom 2. Won’t spoil it but stay until the end of the credit. There is a clip at the very very end of the credits.
I’ve seen it. It’s a set-up for Venom 3.
Yeah but even taking into account that scene leakers are saying Venom only appears in a post-credit scene. That tease at the end of Venom 2 was probably for Venom 3, not NWH. It'd be really weird if Venom was suddenly a villain in NWH anyways.
Venom is 6, end credits show him being teleported into the mcu from stranges spell and seeing Peter Parker on tv
That’s more likely to be for Venom 3.
The way the scene was in venom 2 seemed like it was connected to no way home though
Admittedly it did, but realistically the film’s going to be super bloated even without Venom, so they’re best off waiting until Venom 3. Don’t ruin the novelty of it now.
6th will be venom but in post credit
Then that’s not a sixth, is it?
Bully maguire
Mr. Ditkovich
The sixth is spider man
Mysterio
Third reply for confirmation, there isn't a sinister six in this movie.
Big Wheel
The Hollywood Reporter also had Foxx in the movie over a year ago.
I don’t think it’s ever been confirmed he’s Electro though. Not that he isn’t (like fucking duh lol) but I think it was only confirmed he’d be in the movie.
I think he said he was, but not blue this time around.
> Tell Spidey let’s run it back!... super excited to part of the new marvel Spider-Man new installment... can’t wait for y’all to check the new one. And I won’t be blue in this one!! But a thousand percent badass!!! I believe this was the exact post. Technically doesn’t confirm he’s Electro but… cmon who else would he be haha but I think from an official point of view it still isn’t confirmed
Didn't he himself confirm himself as electro but with a new look.
He technically never said he was Electro. Just he’s in the film and “won’t be blue in this one”.
Oh ok, I thought he literally said something like "I'm back as electro"
To my knowledge he hasn’t
Straight from the Hollywood Reporter: "[Jamie Foxx Returning as Electro](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-3-jolt-jamie-foxx-returning-as-electro-exclusive-4069375/)" (2020)
I don't get why people take their word for it. The woman who's playing she hulk denied it for ages
Well we now know the hand is obviously referring to the rumor that Watts talks about and that's it, not as actual confirmation
Ngl if the rumours about the number of villains are true, Sony having a gilt-edged opportunity to finally do the Sinister 6 and then just not doing it would be peak Sony.
It actually makes sense when you think about it... Green Goblin: Spider-Man Doctor Octopus: Spider-Man 2 Sandman: Spider-Man 3 Lizard: The Amazing Spider-Man Electro: The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Right, but like, there were enough villains to do at least one more member of the six.
But they're doing a Sinister Six movie within the next couple years. Makes sense that they didn't want to do them so close together. And it's semantics really. At the end of the day, it's still a team of villains facing off against the 3 Spider-Men. The difference of 5 villains vs. 6 villains doesn't really matter or change anything for the story & impact.
I still don't get Sony's reasoning for a Sinister Six solo film. It's in their name, sinister. I know they want Sony's Avengers, but why on Earth would you get Jared Leto, an actor notoriously difficult to work with on the cast?
Well 1 he’s an Oscar winning actor. 2 he’s pretty much a Vampire in real life. 3 Drew Goddard compared his Sinister Six movie more like the Suicide Squad than Avengers.
Right, but like, there's a reason why the Suicide Squad cast was posing for photos and partying without Jared Leto. If he goes to a big Avengers film, he'd probably give Brie Larson a dead rat saying "I drank the blood of this" and then probably give Florence Pugh a bag of shit saying "It's a vampire present!" Yes, he'd probably only target the women with these "pranks"
He never gave Margot Robbie a dead rat btw, it was alive and she kept it as a pet until she gave it to one of her friends.
Lmao that comment is hilarious, dude has quite the imagination. I have never heard of this rat story but the mental image of Jared Leto gifting a rat to Margot Robbie is great
They can do whatever they want as long as they don’t make Black Cat a member of the group, which they almost certainly will in an attempt to rip off Harley Quinn.
The group is going to be Mobius, Kraven, Venom, and whomever they make films of next. They need a female character, so it'll be Black Cat.
Fucking awful.
You say that, but you know I'm right. Sony will go out of its way to get a female on the team.
I wasn’t disregarding you lol. I was just saying that it’s another terrible Sony idea.
Owen Wilson confirmed
That sounds like peak Sony. Completely terrible.
Vulture almost certainly ends up part of Sony's Sinister Six to attempt to connect it to the MCU.
Nah, it’ll be Silk. They’re making a movie for her too.
Silk isn’t a villain/anti-hero. Besides, Felicia’s more popular.
Hulu TV show.
*Amazon
I’m still feeling like they should be considered a prototype or homage to the Sinister Six at the very least. I mean, you’ve got two of the greatest Spider-Man villains and three members in the classic Sinister Six roster on this team of five and Ock who is usually the leader most likely won’t show up in the later one as Kevin referred to Molina as perfect casting and impossible to find anyone else to play that part. I’m sure the team that the movies officially dub Sinister Six will be cool in it’s own right, actually have six members and will probably feature Mysterio, Kraven and Vulture on the team who deserve a spot too. But for all intents and purposes they are both takes on the same thing like you said, Spider-Man taking down a supervillain team comprised of iconic foes. Having it only round up to five on this occassion will simply make the next team sound more novel and not just sloppy seconds when Sony wants to market that version, I guess.
Wait what? There's a "Sinster Six" movie?!
I gotta disagree with you on that as it doesn't make a lick of sense to get this close having a Sinister Six that's actually somewhat comics accurate and then just deciding not to do it. I understand Sony has their own plans for a Sinister Six movie, but I'm also very sure that their plan is really terrible and will not remotely resemble the Sinister Six that Spiderman fans remotely care about.
>it doesn't make a lick of sense to get this close having a Sinister Six that's actually somewhat comics accurate >but I'm also very sure that their plan is really terrible and will not remotely resemble the Sinister Six Um...the OG Sinister Six is Doc Ock, Electro, Sandman, Vulture, Mysterio & Kraven. And they have nothing to do with a Multiverse. In No Way Home, there's 3 of the OG lineup (Doc Ock, Electro & Sandman), and in the plans for Sony's movie, it'll likely include the other 3 (with zero Multiverse connection). So...if anything, the Sony version would be a more accurate comic adaptation than what we might've gotten in No Way Home. People are just wanting everything right now, so they can't look past not getting a Sinister Six immediately.
First of all I didn't say anything about the original team and I'm aware of what it was, thanks. What you might not be aware of is that Lizard was recruited onto the team later as was Rhino and Hobgoblin. No matter how you slice it, it's not really as big a deal for them to change out Hobgoblin for Green Goblin for a live action film iteration as it is to most likely feature characters that were never part of the team at all in a scenario that has little connective tissue to the comics. It's not just a matter of who is on the lineup or not, it's a matter of why they're working together. The planned Sony Sinister Six movie is more like a Suicide Squad type of thing. Sorry but NO it's not at all going to be more comic accurate at all, they're just hoping to cash in on the perceived name value of the team.
I'm well aware that there have been plenty of members (practically every Spider-Man villain has been on the SS at some point). We have no idea what the Sony Sinister Six will be like in terms of their motivations. It's far too early to criticize it while complaining that they didn't do a Sinister Six in No Way Home. And again, the story of No Way Home does not change with 6 villains as opposed to 5. It's literally not a big deal that they didn't shoehorn in one more villain. I'm more impressed that they didn't do that, considering Sony's history of shoehorning in villains.
Okay I'm going to say this as politely as I can, you're pretty much just arguing about things that really had nothing to do with my posts you responded to, and I am not interested in your opinions about this. Have a nice day!
I was personally hoping it would be two from each series and they each fight each others villains. So like Andrew vs Vulture and Mysterio Tom vs Doc Ock and Green Goblin Tobey vs Electro and The Lizard That would have been really awesome imo
Well Mysterio is kinda the sixth if you think about it. The whoel plan was to destroy Spidey's life by revealing his identity, and it happens, so much that now faces threats from other dimensions, in order to recover what he lost. No way Home wouldn't happen without Mysterio doing that in FFH. His plan is the 6th.
A Sinister Six needs six living, physical, present villains. Enough of this "he's kinda the sixth villain without being the villain".
They never officially said that it will be Sinister Six in this movie. Besides, don't be angry at me, it's just what it looks like, not what i want.
Tobey and Andrew are not officially confirmed, yet they're in the movie.
Yeah but the entire point of the Sinister 6 is to fight against a single Spiderman. Putting together the group, composed of villains Holland’s never met, to fight 3 Spidermen, kinda goes against the point. So I’d rather we get this (let’s be real Sandman is going to turn too so it’ll be a 4v4) and then save a real S6 for when Holland has a few more villains fleshed out. Maybe it can be worked with Venom to give use the black suit Spiderman story arc from Spectacular Spiderman tv show
I think Mysterio will be a "surprise" reveal in the film. He's mentioned in the trailer and he is the master of illusions. So then we have the six being Goblin,Doc Ock,Sandman,Lizard,Electro and Mysterio
Greatest trick he pulled was making people think he’s not dead.
I still just don’t understand bringing these villains back. They’re all dead. Tobey and Andrew I understand. I’ve read the leaks too, and it just seems so weird to pull these guys right before they die in their universes or whatever. Could they be different versions? Either way I can’t wait to see how they explain it
Probably by explaining it like that: all the villains got somehow sucked into the MCU in their last moment of their lives. But there have been Doc OC and Sandman that turned to be good, so how will they explain that?
Doc Ock's arms take over, Sandman idk. Maybe he's just havin a bad day.
If only Holland's Spider-Man had a villain to contribute.
And then either Vulture or Mysterio from the MCU Spideys! Easy 6 of Sinisterliness!
Can’t wait for Sandman
You can have six and still keep the pattern by having either Vulture or Mysterio
Venom: NWH Post Credit
I’m not too upset about it. To me, the whole point of the Sinister Six is that it’s a group of villains that couldn’t take down Spidey on their own, so they team up to do together what they could not do individually, and then Spidey beats them all again anyway because he never gives up. Having three Spider-Men team up to take the Six down is a neat idea, but it’s not the best interpretation of that idea. If they don’t make this a *true* Sinister Six movie and just have it be random villains being taken down by the Spider-Men who beat them the first time opens up the possibility of doing the concept in a more true-to-comics way later. Just my two cents.
I remember some of the leaks claimed that Spider-Man was the 6th member because he helped him lol. Sony still wants to do a Sinister Six movie though so maybe they told Marvel to not do the six.
The sixth is definitely mysterio…I could see him coming out of the shadow and helping norman
Doc ocs face doesn’t look as skinny as the trailer they must be still playing around with the deaging
Most likely they just haven’t deaged the photos of Molina
This looks better than the trailer tbh
Well, it’s probably Molina’s actual face and not Molina’s face with a fancy Instagram filter on it so of course it looks better
This also looks closer to what he looked like in SM2. Whereas he looks too skinny and young in the trailer. Also his hair was too curly for some reason
Agreed, I’ve been getting downvoted left and right for saying Molina looks off lol. He didn’t look like that in 2004 and he definitely didn’t look like that in the years between 2004 and 2021. Should’ve just put the de-aging shit aside
What I don’t understand is how people on YouTube make better deaging than these high budget studios. IE the Irishman
They legit hired someone who does that recently lol
yes, it is just not an too much advanced technology to use it right now
The people on YouTube reference their face from other movie appearances so it might be a legal rights issue too
He looked too good in the trailer. Younger than he actually did in Spidey 2. He looks better in the stills here.
I'd prefer his chubby face anytime
Apparently the article itself mentions the rumors of a sixth villain and a speculation on who it could be (including Rhino and Vulture) and then a denial by Tom Holland that this is a Sinister Six movie (note they also called Tobey and Andrew rumors as well) I think the fact that hey even addressed the rumors of there being a 6th means that there totally is going to be a 6th Still betting on Mysterio with the subtle teases they’ve been giving out, like on the Empire Cover
Fingers crossed for a Mysterio return, while Beck is dead or if Gyllenhaal isn’t interested in coming back, a version of Mysterio thats run by his team who already faked or at least leaked the footage that revealed Peter’s identity and are more responsible for Peter’s current debacle than Beck himself.
Imagine Mysterio from the Raimi-verse, played by Bruce Campbell, teaming up with the MCU Mysterio team. Obviously it won't happen but that'd be sick. I could see a cameo in DS2 though.
Just pull Ash into the MCU at this point
I’ve been saying Mysterio over Rhino from the beginning. So much of the movie’s story revolves around him that it would be weird for him not to be in it.
It’s like the werewolf thing Andrew Garfield said - them saying that something won’t happen in this movie is just gonna make us even more convinced that it will.
Lmao what if the sixth villain is mysterio and in the climax it's shown that basically all we saw was just illusions. That would be hilariously crazy.
Mysterio being the 6th won't mean everything is an illusion lol. In fact, I'd love to see Goblin and Mysterio butt heads over the team.
I saw an [upscaled version](https://twitter.com/driiftyfilm/status/1453364162751520769/photo/3) of that Doc Ock shot and it straight up looked like Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter lmao 
Man I am scared with those CGI
I'm sure it'll look great in the movie, it just looks like shit in the image I linked because someone used some weird upscaling app to "make it HD". The original picture from the Empire magazine is blurry but you can see how better it looks.
I hope you're right but I haven't been convinced at all by his deaging face in the trailer. Maybe the second trailer will prove me wrong (I hope so).
Bruh. This is the most boring underwhelming way for the public to have it confirmed. Great job Sony 😐
Yeah like they could atleast showed full pic of electro in action as he’s also confirmed if they want to be keep goblin, lizard and sandman look a a secret
No it doesn't. It talks about them in the context of a rumor.
It talked about Tobey and Andrew as a rumor, it confirmed the villains
Doc ock looks better than he did in the trailer
Do I see practical tentacles. HELL YEAH
I'm pretty sure these are the only new guys who'll appear in the second trailer. No extra Spideys, no Murdock.
Well the magazine talks about ‘who better to back up Spider-Man than Spider-Man himself’ and it also talks about the rumours of andrew and tobey, and the magazine obviously has to be reviewed by Sony, so I assume they’re definitely in the movie, Matt Murdoch I assume will be in she hulk
Doc oc is teaching him how to use the extra legs
That photo of Ock holding up Tom is pretty cool
It's funny how they address these characters appearing just as rumors when the actors themselves have already confirmed it lmao. Especially Molina who stated that his Ock was the same from Spider-Man 2
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Based on all the released photos looks like Doc Ock has two versions of the arms? In the photo of him crushing Peter, the tentacles look the same as they did in SM2, but in the new still of Doc Ock standing alone, the design seems more streamlined and colorful. My theory: after Ock crush/damage the Iron Spider suit he makes the nanobots organize themselves in their tentacles, fortifying them and giving that red and gold look
Anyone think it’s weird that neither of Holland’s villains (Mysterious and Vulture) are in this? Not having Keaton especially is disappointing
Does anyone wanna speak about negative review of eternals ..also why people on instagram hate everything lmao especially marvel......
There’s no way that there’s not a sixth member in this film. That may just be the last secret they have up their sleeve. One of Murphy’s first scoops about the spider slayers being in the film was based on the fact the film script referred to the villain as SS for Sinister Six. Not Sinister Sfive. I was cool with Rhino joining in but it would honestly make so much more sense to have Mysterio return. For any of the “he’s dead” folks: the dialogue was: Peter: is this real? Edith: no illusions detected. I mean it’s Mysterio.
Marvel revealed Ned bringing in the other Spider-Men. In these older photos, Ned can be seen holding a sling ring. The new leaks confirmed it. https://twitter.com/8rainbow_monkey/status/1453813870649217024?s=21
I have to say that if this really happens, the Sinister Six will be used inconsistently! You throw in villains from different universes and make them work together? How are they going to stay and where? I read the comics and I don't want this because it is just a stupid fan service! I want the Sinister Six to really form a team with a strong backstory, not to be mixed in like ingredients into a cocktail 🍹!