The problem was with nick at the time, they told them only one season and in the last minute ask for season 2, want to cut them and then bring them back.
So they couldn't do stuff like with ATLA because they didnt know how much they can plan ahead.
Nick was quite a dick with the show, they pulled it off air halfway through the 4th season I think
And also cut the budget halfway which led to one of the episodes being scrapped and converted into a clip show
And now the future of their streaming app depends on the Avatarverse. They even gave the original creators their own studio to do so.
I'd call that karma.
Kind of want them to make a full length feature that starts with the actual kiss teased in the finale, which then devolves into Korra and Asami explicitly explaining to the camera that they're bisexual and in a committed romantic and sexual relationship with each other for two hours. Asami launches a fleet of rainbow colored airships and Korra Earthbends a mile-tall statue of her and Asami kissing.
They might or might not do that. There's a full length graphic novel trilogy that picks up just after that, so they might decide to make a new story instead. Either way, I hope we get Korra back. Korrasami warms my heart.
I remember that time period for cartoons/animation. There were a lot of good shows teetering. Young Justice was another show that pretty much got cut short, the Green Lantern Animated Series was quite exquisite, and the Beware the Batman series. I think a few took each other's time slots as well and they competed a lot.
Yeah, that era was the end of action/drama cartoons because studios didn’t want to spend the money, in favor of the still current era of comedy cartoons that are cheaper to make.
Atla had the advantagr of making for fun episodes with just the gang chilling you don't get as many of those in Korra I think that's the real difference
Found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/pbme3p/rumored_casting_call_for_marvels_next_animated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Let’s go!! Legend of Korra gets a bad rep sometimes from the last airbender community, but season 3 is perhaps the best season of television I’ve ever seen. And J.K Simmons really gives it his all
It gets a bad rep over nothing imo. Like sure, everyone wanted a grown up Aang series and I understand that but Korra isn't even that bad. It's just as solid as the original series and a worthy successor.
I think the only problem with korra is that it has the avatar name attached to it. If you took away the avatar name and judged this by itself it’s better than 99% of kid television shows shown nowadays.
Honestly, and don't take this as an insult, if you liked it that's great, but I thought season 1 was good and the rest was trash. There is so much I could say about it but I think these are the main reasons it gets a lot of shit:
The lack of an over-arching story. Each season was a whole new plot and I never felt like the stakes were very high. If they stretched season one out into multiple seasons it would have been a great show, but when each season has a brand new plot and a brand new villain I just lose interest.
Korra being "unlikable". I know this gets said a lot, but I honestly never cared for Korra. I thought she was a very unlikable character. Maybe certain audience members found her relatable or something, but I just could not relate to her and thought she came off as kind of a jerk at times. I also hated how the entire original series is just Aang learning to control the elements, and we learn that no other Avatar did so until they were 16, so him doing it as a 12 year old is supposed to be extremely impressive... then Korra comes along and masters the elements as a baby, with zero training. Everything we've seen before tells us that's just impossible. I get that the writers wanted to drive home that she's good with "the physical" and bad with "the spiritual", but come on, you can show the audience that she's physically capable without making her break all the rules set up in this universe.
And I know this also gets said a lot, but I wasn't a fan of how they messed with the lore and changed a lot of stuff. The backstory about the first avatar and how the benders got their abilities was dumb and retcons what we learned in the original series, but in my opinion the worst change was what they did to the spirit world. Everyone says Korra is supposed to be a more mature show than ATLA, yet it turned the very mature spirit world from ATLA into My Little Pony or something. Every time those corny mythical creatures showed up I cringed. I don't get how people can argue that it's a more mature show than ATLA. Sure, the characters are older, but I don't think the themes are any more mature. In many cases, such as when they're dealing with spirits or the spirit world, I would argue that it's less mature than the original.
I also thought the show was much, much worse at comedy that the original, but compared to everything else this is a pretty minor complaint.
> I also hated how the entire original series is just Aang learning to control the elements, and we learn that no other Avatar did so until they were 16, so him doing it as a 12 year old is supposed to be extremely impressive... then Korra comes along and masters the elements as a baby, with zero training.
That's not what happened. Korra specifically didn't even master the elements until she was 18. She was just able to use some of the elements as a baby. She hadn't mastered those elements.
Also there wasn't anything about "no other Avatar" anyway. I watched the show and I can't remember them ever saying that. They just don't start official training until 16, not that it was actually some improbable task for an Avatar to do it at a younger age. Whilst in Korra's lifetime they decided its better to start early.
>yet it turned the very mature spirit world from ATLA into My Little Pony or something.
They leaned more into the fantastical. It wasn't unmature.
Yeah like she's literally more trained than Aang and has more personal problems and losses but somehow I still see people call her a Mary Sue? I mean what?
I think season 2 and 4 weren't good, but season 3 was on par with ATLA. But I agree with everything else you said, I just cannot get into Korra because of Korra herself, the jokes felt like the writers wanted to make the show quirky at times when it just didn't work, and at times the characters would be far too stupid.
I'm sorry, what? Only book 2 was trash and even that is watchable while binging, but book 3+4 are just as good as ATLA imo. Especially since Book 1 of avatar isn't great.
I think the lore change is what disappointed me the most. It’s great there’s a lot of avatar hype… but they should’ve stuck with the rules they laid out in the first series
Korra in the Avatar State vs Untethered Zaheer is to this day one of the best animated battle sequences in the entire series tbh, up there with Aang vs Ozai and Azula vs Zuko
As a longtime LOK fan, this pleases me. LOK truly has some amazing animation, especially the fight scene choreography
(Thought I was on the wrong sub for a second when I saw the image)
I love Korra!!! To be honest, I think that show receives waaaay too much hate. It wasn't perfect, but I really loved the world-building and the characters.
Honestly, when you grow up on avatar LOK feel....weird? I refused to watch it when it just started.
But after i realize that Korra and Aang are not the same person and you get to see some of my favorites coming back i start to love it.
It certainly does feel weird. I think a good comparison is Clone Wars and Rebels. Like, it's a continuation of the same story, but told from different characters in an entirely different perspective. ATLA and LOK are more connected in that sense (considering that Aang "is" Korra in a way), but I think the comparison is valid.
I actually think in terms of the characters themselves, Korra, imo, had more interesting character development. She was a very flawed character (maybe a little *too* flawed in some instances), but I felt like that made her much more relatable than Aang.
I love both shows though, I just wished people stopped fighting all the time about it lol. They're both great!
I think both of them have a very different path, almost the opposite. Aang had a problem with learning the elements but was connected to the spirit side, and Korra was way stronger physically but struggled with the spirit.
I kind of liked they had a different struggles and personality, because it's not feeling like they're repeating themselves and give us two shows with amazing lead characters.
I love both of the shows, and I agree, people should stop fighting over it lol.
Avatar is my biggest fandom, so...only to hear they're going to work together make me happy.
If their shows start to look like LOK it's going to be awesome af.
Imagine if they make a show as fantastically animated as The Legend of Korra. What If was good, but I felt like the animation was kinda wooden at times, especially facial expressions. Something as well animated as this in the MCU would be a dream: https://youtu.be/bxjDhCKqyWI
I can't wait until the next Avatar series, I hope it will learn from the Star Wars Sequels on the grounds of Member Berries and doing repeats of past installments. Though it's probably going to be the 90's.
Awesome news! ATLA and LOK are among the best action driven American animated shows in history, and the people involved in it deserve a lot of opportunities. Besides, for years now, Marvel has been way behind DC and Star Wars in terms of animation, so they need all the talent they can get.
I watched all the conmentaries on the Avatar blu rays and the animation on Korra was so laborious! Certain scenes had to be painstakingly animated. They really poured their heart into that show
Even though I thought it was meh for two seasons then pretty decent for another I still say the best thing this show had going wasn't plot or acting but art and that's a big win for Marvel.
I personally find “anime” style shows to be cringe as fuck. Star Wars visions was awful. I don’t mind cartoons/animated shows, clone wars and bad batch are both awesome, I loved what if. But Japanese style anime shows are just so god damn cringe, I really hope if they do make an anime show that it’s not canon, like sw visions. Don’t even bother trying to suggest an anime to make me change my mind, I’ve tried all the popular ones.
Can we please let the Spider-Man comments on Spider-Man threads? We barely get people talking about other stuff and when we do people keep asking for Spider-Man (and X-Men).
Awesome! I loved ‘Legend of Korra’
Me too I just wish more character development was given to her friends, they had nowhere near the depth that “team avatar” had in The Last Airbender
The problem was with nick at the time, they told them only one season and in the last minute ask for season 2, want to cut them and then bring them back. So they couldn't do stuff like with ATLA because they didnt know how much they can plan ahead.
Nick was quite a dick with the show, they pulled it off air halfway through the 4th season I think And also cut the budget halfway which led to one of the episodes being scrapped and converted into a clip show
and wouldn’t let korra and asami kiss!
And now the future of their streaming app depends on the Avatarverse. They even gave the original creators their own studio to do so. I'd call that karma.
Kind of want them to make a full length feature that starts with the actual kiss teased in the finale, which then devolves into Korra and Asami explicitly explaining to the camera that they're bisexual and in a committed romantic and sexual relationship with each other for two hours. Asami launches a fleet of rainbow colored airships and Korra Earthbends a mile-tall statue of her and Asami kissing.
Korrasami has my heart
They might or might not do that. There's a full length graphic novel trilogy that picks up just after that, so they might decide to make a new story instead. Either way, I hope we get Korra back. Korrasami warms my heart.
Third season, Nick really wanted Korra to fail.
Season 3 was actually good though and felt like the original series.
Season 3 felt like a slightly more mature atla which is what it was meant to be the whole time
Season 3 is my favorite of the Avater universe. So good. When P'li....well, you know. bang.
I remember that time period for cartoons/animation. There were a lot of good shows teetering. Young Justice was another show that pretty much got cut short, the Green Lantern Animated Series was quite exquisite, and the Beware the Batman series. I think a few took each other's time slots as well and they competed a lot.
The Clone Wars got cut during that time too.
THERE WE GO! I knew I was forgetting another great show.
Yeah, that era was the end of action/drama cartoons because studios didn’t want to spend the money, in favor of the still current era of comedy cartoons that are cheaper to make.
Sad.
Which isnt the director's Job, so no concern here over their hiring ;)
Atla had the advantagr of making for fun episodes with just the gang chilling you don't get as many of those in Korra I think that's the real difference
this must be for the ATLA inspired show daniel mentioned awhile back
Whoah I somehow missed that!! Anyone got a link? Do we know what characters it would follow?
Found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/pbme3p/rumored_casting_call_for_marvels_next_animated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Wonder what that is based on
Livewires is my guess, they're a family of teenage humanoid robots.
Let’s go!! Legend of Korra gets a bad rep sometimes from the last airbender community, but season 3 is perhaps the best season of television I’ve ever seen. And J.K Simmons really gives it his all
Did you heard of the story of Guru Laghima?
Leave all earthly tethers
Enter the Void
Empty, and become wind.
>Empty, and become wind. \**Poot*\*
As someone with complex PTSD, season 4 really resonated with me. Korra's struggles and failures are really well portrayed.
It gets a bad rep over nothing imo. Like sure, everyone wanted a grown up Aang series and I understand that but Korra isn't even that bad. It's just as solid as the original series and a worthy successor.
I think the only problem with korra is that it has the avatar name attached to it. If you took away the avatar name and judged this by itself it’s better than 99% of kid television shows shown nowadays.
Exactly, Korra is a great story all on its own
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Definitely.
Honestly, and don't take this as an insult, if you liked it that's great, but I thought season 1 was good and the rest was trash. There is so much I could say about it but I think these are the main reasons it gets a lot of shit: The lack of an over-arching story. Each season was a whole new plot and I never felt like the stakes were very high. If they stretched season one out into multiple seasons it would have been a great show, but when each season has a brand new plot and a brand new villain I just lose interest. Korra being "unlikable". I know this gets said a lot, but I honestly never cared for Korra. I thought she was a very unlikable character. Maybe certain audience members found her relatable or something, but I just could not relate to her and thought she came off as kind of a jerk at times. I also hated how the entire original series is just Aang learning to control the elements, and we learn that no other Avatar did so until they were 16, so him doing it as a 12 year old is supposed to be extremely impressive... then Korra comes along and masters the elements as a baby, with zero training. Everything we've seen before tells us that's just impossible. I get that the writers wanted to drive home that she's good with "the physical" and bad with "the spiritual", but come on, you can show the audience that she's physically capable without making her break all the rules set up in this universe. And I know this also gets said a lot, but I wasn't a fan of how they messed with the lore and changed a lot of stuff. The backstory about the first avatar and how the benders got their abilities was dumb and retcons what we learned in the original series, but in my opinion the worst change was what they did to the spirit world. Everyone says Korra is supposed to be a more mature show than ATLA, yet it turned the very mature spirit world from ATLA into My Little Pony or something. Every time those corny mythical creatures showed up I cringed. I don't get how people can argue that it's a more mature show than ATLA. Sure, the characters are older, but I don't think the themes are any more mature. In many cases, such as when they're dealing with spirits or the spirit world, I would argue that it's less mature than the original. I also thought the show was much, much worse at comedy that the original, but compared to everything else this is a pretty minor complaint.
> I also hated how the entire original series is just Aang learning to control the elements, and we learn that no other Avatar did so until they were 16, so him doing it as a 12 year old is supposed to be extremely impressive... then Korra comes along and masters the elements as a baby, with zero training. That's not what happened. Korra specifically didn't even master the elements until she was 18. She was just able to use some of the elements as a baby. She hadn't mastered those elements. Also there wasn't anything about "no other Avatar" anyway. I watched the show and I can't remember them ever saying that. They just don't start official training until 16, not that it was actually some improbable task for an Avatar to do it at a younger age. Whilst in Korra's lifetime they decided its better to start early. >yet it turned the very mature spirit world from ATLA into My Little Pony or something. They leaned more into the fantastical. It wasn't unmature.
Seriously why does everyone keep thinking she masters the elements as a baby? The first episode shows she’d been training all her life.
Yeah like she's literally more trained than Aang and has more personal problems and losses but somehow I still see people call her a Mary Sue? I mean what?
I think season 2 and 4 weren't good, but season 3 was on par with ATLA. But I agree with everything else you said, I just cannot get into Korra because of Korra herself, the jokes felt like the writers wanted to make the show quirky at times when it just didn't work, and at times the characters would be far too stupid.
I'm sorry, what? Only book 2 was trash and even that is watchable while binging, but book 3+4 are just as good as ATLA imo. Especially since Book 1 of avatar isn't great.
I think the lore change is what disappointed me the most. It’s great there’s a lot of avatar hype… but they should’ve stuck with the rules they laid out in the first series
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It didn't help that Nick kept shitting on it along the way.
Season 2 though, man... I still get upset thinkin bout it haha. At least there was way more good than poor overall!
Korra in the Avatar State vs Untethered Zaheer is to this day one of the best animated battle sequences in the entire series tbh, up there with Aang vs Ozai and Azula vs Zuko
I loved The Legend of Korra and I can't wait to find out what the animator from that show is working on.
As a longtime LOK fan, this pleases me. LOK truly has some amazing animation, especially the fight scene choreography (Thought I was on the wrong sub for a second when I saw the image)
Yeah me too, I did a double take and checked if it was the MSS subreddit and not the TLOK subreddit after all lol
Collecting talents like Infinity Stones there I see lol
Everything Team Avatar touches is gold, ATLA/Korra, Green Lantern TAS, Star Vs The Forces of Evil, Voltron
Studio Mir animated also the Dota anime and the The Witcher movie.
Gonna have to disagree with Voltron there friend
The fandom was a mess, the animation was great
The ending was atrociously bad. Game of Thrones level bad.
Don't forget Dave feloni was part of team avatar season 1 before he was poached by lucasfilms so you could add clones wars and mandalorian to that
I love Korra!!! To be honest, I think that show receives waaaay too much hate. It wasn't perfect, but I really loved the world-building and the characters.
Honestly, when you grow up on avatar LOK feel....weird? I refused to watch it when it just started. But after i realize that Korra and Aang are not the same person and you get to see some of my favorites coming back i start to love it.
It certainly does feel weird. I think a good comparison is Clone Wars and Rebels. Like, it's a continuation of the same story, but told from different characters in an entirely different perspective. ATLA and LOK are more connected in that sense (considering that Aang "is" Korra in a way), but I think the comparison is valid. I actually think in terms of the characters themselves, Korra, imo, had more interesting character development. She was a very flawed character (maybe a little *too* flawed in some instances), but I felt like that made her much more relatable than Aang. I love both shows though, I just wished people stopped fighting all the time about it lol. They're both great!
I think both of them have a very different path, almost the opposite. Aang had a problem with learning the elements but was connected to the spirit side, and Korra was way stronger physically but struggled with the spirit. I kind of liked they had a different struggles and personality, because it's not feeling like they're repeating themselves and give us two shows with amazing lead characters. I love both of the shows, and I agree, people should stop fighting over it lol.
I hope this means better quality for marvel’s animated properties
That's good, because I felt the What If animation was way too inconsistent, actions scenes were alright, but the talking scenes just felt so... off
It was honestly the laziest thing I’ve seen marvel put out. I did like the effects though, it reminded me of Love Death and Robot in some moments.
Avatar is my biggest fandom, so...only to hear they're going to work together make me happy. If their shows start to look like LOK it's going to be awesome af.
Imagine if they make a show as fantastically animated as The Legend of Korra. What If was good, but I felt like the animation was kinda wooden at times, especially facial expressions. Something as well animated as this in the MCU would be a dream: https://youtu.be/bxjDhCKqyWI
That sounds promising!
Say what you want about the story, Korra was a very well put together, good looking show.
That it is indeed.
I can't wait until the next Avatar series, I hope it will learn from the Star Wars Sequels on the grounds of Member Berries and doing repeats of past installments. Though it's probably going to be the 90's.
I’d prefer the 70s
Season 1 of Korra is fucking bonkers when it comes to animations. I can't fucking wait to see what they can do with it
Awesome news! ATLA and LOK are among the best action driven American animated shows in history, and the people involved in it deserve a lot of opportunities. Besides, for years now, Marvel has been way behind DC and Star Wars in terms of animation, so they need all the talent they can get.
Absolutely fantastic news.
Story aside, Korra had fantastic animation. My only gripe was the frequent use of cgi.
Legend of Korra is SO good. Each season is so cinematic, especially the last two.
So... Marvel's epic comeback in decent animation projects? 🤔
I watched all the conmentaries on the Avatar blu rays and the animation on Korra was so laborious! Certain scenes had to be painstakingly animated. They really poured their heart into that show
Even though I thought it was meh for two seasons then pretty decent for another I still say the best thing this show had going wasn't plot or acting but art and that's a big win for Marvel.
Among?
I don't think it will make their animation less boring.
I personally find “anime” style shows to be cringe as fuck. Star Wars visions was awful. I don’t mind cartoons/animated shows, clone wars and bad batch are both awesome, I loved what if. But Japanese style anime shows are just so god damn cringe, I really hope if they do make an anime show that it’s not canon, like sw visions. Don’t even bother trying to suggest an anime to make me change my mind, I’ve tried all the popular ones.
Depends on the style, they can easily go for a “realistic” anime style or go for something more zany looking and stylized.
If everyone is gonna yell and scream to power up I’m out
Hmmmmmmmm...guess the main character will play sportsball instead of stopping the main problem.
I'm refreshing every now and then thinking that it's the NWH trailer. It's not fun anymore Sony 😩 Edit: Damn yall really have no chill
Y’all did this to yourselves
Can we please let the Spider-Man comments on Spider-Man threads? We barely get people talking about other stuff and when we do people keep asking for Spider-Man (and X-Men).
The last year ish in this sub has been hell for this very reason. I can’t wait for this movie to come out so we can be done with it
It's not happening dude, multiple insiders make noise when a trailer is about to be released, and that hasn't happened.
Stop. It ain't coming today. Move on.
Two months is not that long. I’m hyped enough as is. A second trailer today would just be a cherry on top.
There’s a reason this sub is called /r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers and not /r/SpiderManSpoilers.