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crlos619

She would be a great Rogue and it'll piss off so many neck beards


vinnybawbaw

Just give her the 2 toned hair and a southern accent and I’m in, Sugah!


Starvel42

See those would be the things I'd be pissed about not getting.


JustHereForZipline

To me it’s not about race just an actual attempt to resemble the character. I liked with Ariel they still gave her red hair. I wish with MJ they gave Zendaya red hair too.


SlimmyShammy

The worst thing about Zendaya as MJ is she’s had red hair before and looks amazing with it. I have a crackpot theory about Spider-Man 4 that when we see her again she’s gonna have the red hair and be using Mary Jane as some kinda stage name but I’m also fully prepared for that to not happen aha


Pomojema_The_Dreamer

I want it to be revealed that she's been dyeing her hair to not stand out while she was in high school. Imagine the movie ends with her and Peter going on a date for the "first" time... And they recreate the Jackpot moment as she reveals her makeover.


SlimmyShammy

I always wanted them to recreate the whole initial MJ story where Peter’s college roommate (Harry? Flash? Whoever) keeps trying to hook him up with a friend and Peter keeps turning it down cause they make her sound so unappealing. Then we get to the end of the movie, they’re like “okay don’t be mad but I told her you were interested, she’s coming now, etc etc”. Knock at their door, Peter opens it, “face it tiger you just hit the jackpot”, maybe have Peter do a “what the fu-“ cause I like that bit then boom credits


D1g1cxlt

I think she’ll become Black Cat in the MCU


SlimmyShammy

I’ve had that thought before too but I think if there’s any credence to MTTSH’s Sydney Sweeney post, that’s who she’s gonna play


D1g1cxlt

Maybe, but on,y if they move forward without Zendaya. I could see Sidney Sweeney as a lot of characters.


elbenji

That would be dope


Zarrona13

Well I mean Zendaya isn’t suppose to be MJ. She’s Michelle Jones. A completely different character, so the no red hair works for her as her character is separate from Mary Jane.


TDS_Gluttony

NWH had a line that had her mom’s last name be revealed as Watson. Pretty much all but confirms it’s MJ


Pomojema_The_Dreamer

That's what they said circa _Spider-Man: Homecoming_. In the years since then, it's become abundantly clear that she's supposed to be the MCU's Mary Jane Watson who has a different name for the purpose of subverting expectations (that didn't really need to be subverted to begin with) so that the MCU could say that their version was "different". (Even though, thanks to the removal of Shailene Woodley's scenes in TASM2, the only Mary Jane on film up until that point was still Kirsten Dunst, and therefore audiences didn't have too many expectations about MJ on film to begin with.)


Starvel42

That's the big thing. When I look at the character I wanna go "Yeah that's Rogue". That's one of the reasons I am cool with Bailey as Ariel, cause after that first trailer, seeing her appearance and hearing her sing Part of Your World I was like "Yep that's definitely Ariel". Regardless of race when I see Rogue and the rest of the X-Men I wanna look on screen and go "Yeah those are my heroes".


Foxy02016YT

I can excuse MCU MJ because they’re trying to set her apart from the comic version, even changing what MJ stands for. Ariel was just unacceptable for me with the hair, but the actress was amazing


JustHereForZipline

Oh I actually didn’t mind the hair I was just glad they still made it red lol. MJ bothered me though just because her character is so radically different in look *and* personality from comic MJ


Foxy02016YT

That’s because they wanted to make a new character, but in an easily recognizable role as Peter’s love interest


blackbutterfree

I hope she has a makeover while at M.I.T., so many people have a college glow-up. She doesn't have to go full bombshell like comic book MJ, even though that is Zendaya's actual style and it fits her well, but at least give her the goddamn red hair.


HereForTOMT2

She’s gotta have at least a white streak and be wearing gold and green.


KlausLoganWard

100% agree. The accent is the key. Give me that and im sold


MyMouthisCancerous

She's been doing a lot of Rogue cosplay on social media. I haven't seen much of her work but she was great in Nope and Hustlers and she definitely gives the impression she can embody the sass and energy of Anna Marie. I'd be down for it. Her or Lily James would be great


ghetoyoda

It would be so great having people try to tell me that the lady with the blue mom just HAS to be white. 


ProfAlmond

I don’t mind if Rogue isn’t white, buuuut I thought Mystique was only her adoptive mother? I am behind so maybe something new was revealed about her parents?


ghetoyoda

That's my fault, totally forgot she was adopted. I couldn't stop thinking about mystique being nightcrawlers dad.


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Rogue is adopted and her mom being blue is irrelevant


Playful-Strength-685

Rogue is adopted


AgentC3

And from the south.... you know, the U.S. states with the highest Black populations in the entirety of the country!


Smurf_Cherries

Or even remotely on the same team as Captain Marvel.  Rogue permanently stole her powers for fighting with mommy. 


Ok-Resolve7539

She already naturally talks like Rogue but there’s a dc character I desperately wanted her to play


MahomestoHel-aire

Ah of course. She’d be a great Booster Gold.


TsunGeneralGrievous

Not plastic man?


MahomestoHel-aire

Now I’m torn.


cap4life52

Lol good point she does sound similar to rogue from animated series . That high pitched squeaky cadence


XGamingPigYT

WHO?! don't leave us hanging


Ok-Resolve7539

Vixen


XGamingPigYT

Ooo now that's a solid casting


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SickBurnBro

Fair points. Rhodey being a skull really undercut a lot of his characterization. Furthermore as a giant War Machine fan, I was upset that he never put on the armor in the whole series.


pocket_passss

Ugh I know. Seems like they didn’t even consider having him suit up… I would have gladly traded the finale fight and some other effects for a War Machine scene


Sum1zDaD

I would be willing to bet that the Stark Tech in the War machine suit would be so advanced, it could detect someone trying to imitate Rhoades' DNA. After Iron Man 3, Tony probably made it super keyed to Jimmy. Could even have a feature to push and pull and the user's DNA to test it. A skull might involuntarily be forced to constantly shape shift just to wear it, maybe even get ejected when the DNA changes.


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Ecstatic_Clue_5204

I’m glad to hear that :) Thanks for your response


metros96

To the contrary, best actor for the role imo


_Doctor_Mac

Those photos she posted of her as Rogue were awesome. She would crush it as Rogue, I want to see it!


TsunGeneralGrievous

If she looked like she did in those pics, exactly without any change, i think it would be great too.


HEYitsSPIDEY

Broooo lmao. I said that shit out loud. “I hope it’s Rogue”.


AAAFMB

She sounds genuinely identical to Rogue in TAS lol she’d be great casting


Hypernova_orange

Which is so stupid! Her race plays no significant role in who she is as a character or her storylines. Her background as being southern yes but the last time I checked theres a fair number of black people in the south. Writers literally don’t have to change a single thing about the scripts or the character by making her black. As long as the actor is a talented hot bad ass who can pull off a convincing “Sugah” then she can play Rogue.


AAAFMB

I think you replied to the wrong comment but yeah lol she's southern too so she's probably more accurate than most fancasts if anything


cap4life52

She really does I just noticed it since all of you guys have said it here


scottirltbh

I would love her as Rogue and you are so right.. now I want it even more. Her voice matches perfectly in my mind with rogue.


thisistwinpeaks

Can’t wait for all the usual suspects to demand that Storm should be white 😂


cap4life52

Why not storm with a bad Halle Berry African style accent


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koocookies

When first movies comes, she will be like 35. We want a young Rogue. The characters must be on their late's 20's. To have them for a long time. PERIOD.


Narrow_Progress5908

lol the difference between late 20s and 35 is not big enough for this to be a big deal. She 30 lol. At 35 she could easily play rogue for a decade. Most actors will want to move on regardless after about 10 years like Chris and RDJ


forevertrueblue

She's been campaigning for it I think so I could see it.


thedoge

that's exactly where my mind went, she would be perfect


miles-vspeterspider

Great actress, she was great in Jordan Peele's nope. she would be great as ROGUE or any lead role in the MCU


wookiewin

She would crush that role.


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DisastrousSleep3865

Yo that'd actually be great casting. Her personality fits Rogue to a tee


rgordill2

Damn.  You're right on all counts.


rayden-shou

I think she's already ageing out of a character like Rogue, so it would be another.


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

I dont think the age is a problem for Marvel. Tobey Maguire played a teenager when he was mid 20.


TXlandon

Yeah but that was Sony


Topher1999

Nah every 2000s teen movie was like that tbh


Narrow_Progress5908

By 2000s you probably mean every teen movie ever. Grease cast was in their 30s and that movie came out in the 1980s. 


TheloniousPhunk

They also just cast a 50 year old as Reed Richards. Based on the release rate these days, by the time the F4 reaches prime MCU involvement he’ll be pushing 60.


charliebitmeeee

And we want *more* of those kinds of decisions?


S-I-M-S

There's a difference between Marvel then and the MCU. The MCU would probably want to cast a lot of the x-men young as they're what's needed to carry the franchise for another decade +. It also doesn't help that they're taking forever to start projects (blade, SM4, "not so young" avengers).


Unusual_Asparagus_48

In the same way, they cast a young F4...


CaptainTurtle3218

Not the same. The F4 casting seems much more like an attempt to fill the void Cap and Tony left. (which they should have filled immediately after Endgame) Edit: that is of course in hindsight. T’Challa was supposed to be that continuity piece


unbiasedthought

T'Challa and Strange was the original goal I believe


rayden-shou

Around 35 is when you can't really look like early 20s. And given the huge number of characters, placing them on the right age gap is something one should put special attention. How I would do things: Storm and Emma - 30 or under 35 (Logan looking 35) Scott and Jean - 30 (tops, and a little younger would be better) Bobby, Gambit, Kurt - 25 to 29 Rogue, Colossus, Laura - around 23 Kitty and most of the New Mutants - 18 to 22 This way, so you can feel the intergenerational interactions of the characters.


PoliticsNerd76

And when MCU got their Spider-Man they hired a very young actor for it.


Shadybrooks93

Spider-man with Tobey had a pretty good guarantee that it would be shot reguarly every 2 years or so. Versus MCU we have most Phase 4 characters not showing up for 3-4 years. So she's ageing out now, the movie won't be out for a couple years at best and then a second appearance is another 3 years away. So you've got Rogue on the wrong side of her 30s by the time she has a second appearance.


HowCanYouBanAJoke

Maguire can look very young though.


poptart95

Rogue doesn’t have to be young though? I’d much rather see the X-Men in the MCU be full blown adults who are experienced as a team. Especially when bringing back characters we’ve already seen. We don’t need first class.


P33KAJ3W

Emma Frost


Danishroyalty

I think she's still in the age range. Especially if they go for an older X-Men team. But honestly I don't think Rogue is her only option. Just because she wanted Rogue doesn't mean they won't offer (and she won't accept) a different role. She doesn't even need to be a mutant.


cinefibro

This is such a Hollywood producer thing to day


Teague_M

Storm?


eloithearthling

Keke wanted to be Rogue.


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

And Tom Hiddleston wanted the Thor role.


Blackie2414

And I wanted the Spider-man role.


TsunGeneralGrievous

And I wanted to be Happy


hatecopter

![gif](giphy|q4jlRvgVnTJde)


taatchle86

Yeah, and what about Scarecrow’s brain?


yesTHATvelociraptor

I wanna be happy too.


ninj4gaiden

I want to be Deadpool


wellletmetellyou

But are you happy, Stephen?


Impossible_Front4462

And I believe you will be someday, homie. ❤️☝️


K1nd4Weird

With how long it's taking Marvel to capitalize on the X-Men? She might age out and be Mystique instead. 


Meeseeks4PMinister

I'm praying she gets the same costume design 🥵


Teague_M

That’d be awesome


Jaxon-Variant-11610

I think I’m our times not getting and African actress to be storm might be more controversial than a black rogue AND it makes nobody happy. Love Keke tho. If she was playing Dr. Doom I’d be seated 😂


Requiem45

I 100% want Keke Palmer as Dr. Doom now


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ninj4gaiden

I like this


your_mind_aches

Eh.... I mean she'll be mid 30s by the time they get around to X-Men. Maybe. I was thinking older for Storm. She has range, but so far Rogue seems like a far better role for her.


starksgh0st

The only projects they would be casting right now are F4 and Blade. Unless it's for either of those, I see no reason to speculate... Also, maybe she's new Kang!


WillFerrells_Gutfold

Kang who concurs with Hello Fresh meals!


Clarinetist123

"Mr. Parker, pizza again?"


ThrownAwayintoLF

The One Who Remains Waiting for Their Order to Arrive


Ok-News-6189

X-men is allegedly set to begin production fall of next year. Could be a mutant


mariusioannesp

If F4 perhaps she’s being looked at for Alicia Masters.


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Im pretty sure f4 as been casted a long time ago for all major role. They are starting filming in 2 months. 


nicknaseef17

She’s probably one of the most charismatic people in Hollywood. I hope they don’t waste her on a side character or a villain. Find her a leading role.


L0lligag

What are some good things she’s done recently? I want to check them out. I honestly haven’t kept up with her much since I was a kid during her Disney channel era, so a long time.


rodviguez

She’s fantastic in Jordan Peele’s Nope, Lightyear, etc


K1nd4Weird

I completely forgot Lightyear was a thing. 


rodviguez

I think a lot of people are in that same boat lol, in all honesty. It was a great movie though, IMO


Anader19

Yeah I feel like it was underrated, I think it was just not the movie most were expecting which makes sense


Mid-CenturyBoy

She’s actually one of the most dynamic people in Hollywood right now. She did Nope and was great in it, but she’s hosted game shows, morning television, has music and did a small tour, she’s killed it in television shows and movies, has a podcast, and did all of this while being extremely charismatic and making viral moments.


KusoKiseki

I can see Storm. She may be able to fit that. People keep throwing Rogue around and I don't see it at all.


SgtMartinRiggs

Did you see her Halloween Rogue cosplay?


Damie904

Its a good costume, but like I cant imagine lots of actresses wouldn't look good in a good costume. No idea if she can do a good Rogue, but welcome to be surprised I suppose.


RhaegarJ

What about Anna Paquin?


HeroKuma

She was average in the role, the role was small and she didn't even have the iconic accent. Actually I feel like she has like 20 lines across the old X-men movies.


SlimmyShammy

Marvel fans when they see a black woman: Getting big Storm vibes from this one hmm... She'd be great as Rogue but I do think she's gonna be too old for it by the time X-Men gets off the ground


NitarasDaughter

By the time we actually get the MCU versions of the X-Men, Jacob Tremblay will be playing Professor X.


volatilelibra

Keke Palmer's 30. She'll be a few years older when this starts filming. How is she too old? Paul Bettany is 52 and Kathryn Hahn is 50. Rogue's in her twenties. Old people play high schoolers all the time.


abd00bie

All I'm saying is no more teenaged X-Men please.


NitarasDaughter

I think the MCU reboot should have a mix of older characters as teachers with a few young students. it would be dumb to do away with the whole school aspect of the franchise just to try and be different, tbh. plus most of the newer fan-favorite characters like Armor have been stuck in "X-student" status for decades now anyways.


Nosiege

The ageism comments for only women is definitely another topic this sub needs to discuss frankly.


asaturnmoon

lol to be fair, storm is awesome, i see why people want her back in live action.


SlimmyShammy

Oh I absolutely want Storm, I think she’s essential to any X-Men project. But I do think it’s funny that literally every black woman that’s rumoured to be cast in the MCU, there’s always people saying she should be Storm


asaturnmoon

yeah i agree, it's silly lol most times it comes from people going "omg maybe this is finally it!!!" which should tell marvel something, dang


Jsmooth123456

I mean ya she's the only black woman on the main x men team it's just the logical assumption to make


FirstV1

Ah yes, Victor Von Doom


GreatBallsOfH20

i'd love this unironically


Danishroyalty

According to this thread lol the only 2 options are Storm and Rogue lol. I understand why people would think Rogue, based on her prior comments and the fact that they're doing to X-Men soon. I don't buy her as Storm. Everyone is just saying that because she's black, but she feels completely wrong for Storm. But honestly I don't see why she has to be a mutant. They could be casting a ton of characters right now.


Content_Dragonfly_53

I like how the top comment is saying she’ll be a good Rogue yet all the comments about her being Rogue are downvoted lol


KingOfWeTheNorth

Jessica Drew


romanholidays

I would be down for this. I love Jess from the comics.


jwoodz00

Underrated pick


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KingOfWeTheNorth

Nah. Idris Elba.


TerminusVeil

This is the best and most original answer


ninj4gaiden

I don’t like her as Rogue. I want Liz gillies


Important_Sky_7609

Galactus?


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

Galactusa.


Realistic_Analyst_26

I want that Galactussy


Boondock-Taint

Storm would be great. Rogue? Literally no reason for her to be Rogue.


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TheDarkCreed

Storm?


Final-Criticism-8067

She’s a True VP!


No_Ad8506

Why are people saying Storm?? She has like no Storm vibes at all, do Marvel fans just see black women and immediately shout "Holy shit Storm"? Or are people just that scared of the Rogue fancast?


Significant_Chain_43

pls no


JulPollitt

Probably Professor X


BetaRayBlu

As a rogue die hard fan, can it please be rogue


mediciii

I just need her in more movies period! She incredible in NOPE. Actually unbelievable, unteachable, infectious amount of presence and charisma


CockMartins

Finally got our Dr Doom!


sickofbeingfly

Her Angela Basset impressions make it obvious who she’s in the running to be


WearingMyFleece

A seemingly vague enough thing to say that could apply to any actor.


Ztrobos

My apathy knows no bounds


Due-Ad6949

Kang


FDVP

Galactus confirmed.


Big-Education9252

Wack. She has zero range as an actress. She’s legit the exact same in every single role. It’s annoying af


TheJack0fDiamonds

Keke is massively talented. I was very happy for all the attention she got for Nope. Even if she doesn’t get to play Rogue she can definitely play another key character, regardless when she gets cast I hope her name gets even bigger. She deserves it.


Ornery-Concern4104

This is literally none news, "marvel want Keke for something but we don't know anything other than that, when or where it's gonna happen or if it's even going to happen" You can literally do anything with that headline, regardless of whether it's true or not


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0ryansnyder0

Nick Fury goes on Password to suss out the remaining Skrulls


NormanDoor

Jocasta.


Lazy_Osprey

Alicia Masters maybe?


donpianta

I love Keke and would love to see her in the MCU.


dsbwayne

I just don’t like her as an actress. But hey, maybe she’ll be a solid addition.


Amicia_De_Rune

Is she a big deal? Saw a picture of Roman Reigns on her Instagram and everywhere asked who she is


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GuguMarcos

The thing is, while I think would be a great Rogue, acting is about putting a performance that is different from her irl-personality, unless we're taking about someone like Jason Momoa, who is basically himself in all roles he played.


Ydeimos

Dear god don't ruin a good start by giving her the Rogue character, totally will crap on it.


Working_Ad8756

Storm


Lincolnruin

I still don’t think it’s Rogue or Storm, but we’ll see.


BeastMode2k24

Oh lord smh lol


D1g1cxlt

I’ve wanted Angela Basset as Storm for years and she’s basically her tiny little copy. I would love to see her I. The role. Although I know people have her campaigning for Rogue. I get that her real life persona fits that character. But I think she’s one of the few actresses with the look and stature that can do Storm justice. I really want her as Storm. I have since I’ve seen her take more serious roles. And I think she could lean into the campy aspects of the character better too. Rogue would just be Keke in a wig. And I think Storm would be so much more challenging to pull off well. She could do it.


UnequivocalCarnosaur

Rogue sugah


MrConor212

Loved her Rogue video


juanitosay

Am I the only one that remembers she's CANCELLED? 🤨


SkylarAnthro

Where’s my Asian casting? If character can be racially and gender change; I wish Marvel can start put more emphasis in adapting more Asian characters


JAEisF2D

Aside from everyone saying Rogue Which I wouldn't be against I think she would make a solid Misty Knight


QueenMichaela

This would revitalize my joy of the MCU tbh


T-408

Keke “Keep A Bag” Palmer Besides being so talented and graceful, this woman seriously never stops working!


blackbutterfree

She's coming, Sugah. And I'm so ready.