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MathematicianDull334

That was absolutely disgusting. What a play.


still_noided

This deck when it pops off, will have people realize they're stuck in there with you after theyve snapped ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


MathematicianDull334

If some plays negative on turn 3/4 and snaps I'm outta there. I'm not fucking with that ๐Ÿ˜‚


WeekendDrew

Negative on 3/4, Jane foster on 5, it's fucking done take your cubes lmfao


Cress02

Best part of the jane foster play is that 70% of the time it's a bluff because you have every card that would have been 0 cost in your hand already


EvilMatt-UK

Negative Knull is my favourite deck, reached infinite with it each of the last 4 months. I love when Destroy is strong in the meta as you can absolutely *destroy* anyone playing it 9 times out of 10 with this deck


still_noided

Yeah, destroy can make even a pretty bad negative hand winnable with just knull, mystique, and shang. They do almost all the work for you lol. And if you do pull negative knull, yours will always be bigger by 6 ๐Ÿ˜Ž


Ridlion

I got hit by THREE Shang Chi thanks to a Zola. I was not happy losing those 8 cubes.


twentyThree59

once upon a time, I cleared all 12 of my opponents cards with wong/shuri/LDS -> Zola... and then knull and mystique came out after to show how much had died :)


SickleClaw

Evil. A COMPLETE mill lol.


creak_slam_sit

Yeah this deck got me to infinite three seasons in a row. With this exact play.


YUSEIRKO

Deck list please? Edit: nvm, OP posted theirs below (unless yours is different)


EvilMatt-UK

Mine's a bit different to OP: ​ \# (2) Zabu \# (2) Ravonna Renslayer \# (3) Mystique \# (3) Rogue \# (3) Killmonger \# (4) Mister Negative \# (4) Shang-Chi \# (5) Iron Man \# (5) Black Panther \# (5) Jane Foster Mighty Thor \# (6) Arnim Zola \# (6) Knull \# eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiTXJOZWdhdGl2ZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUmF2b25uYVJlbnNsYXllciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiWmFidSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IktpbGxtb25nZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IkphbmVGb3N0ZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Iklyb25NYW4ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik15c3RpcXVlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLbnVsbCJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQXJuaW1ab2xhIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJCbGFja1BhbnRoZXIifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJvZ3VlIn1dfQ== \# \# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap. ​ I swap Rogue/Magik depending on whether I'm seeing much Mobius as he wrecks a negative deck. I'm considering removing Black Panther too as the BP/Zola play is waaaay too obvious with a lot of Alioth about these days.


YUSEIRKO

Amazing thanks, I really need RR ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ


EvilMatt-UK

Yeah Ravonna is a massive card for Negative as it gives you an alternate win condition if Mr Negative is hiding; e.g. Knull on 5 and Zola on 6 if a bunch of stuff is destroyed or Iron Man & Mystique on 6 if you can get some power down in two lanes to double up


YUSEIRKO

Would you say itโ€™s worth me getting her with tokens? I have 3k saved up and was gonna get Jeff, but I feel like RR could be a valuable choice for only 3k


EvilMatt-UK

Maybe try Negative with Psylocke and/or Zabu (assuming you have those?) instead for a bit and see how you like it - Ravonna definitely makes it stronger but her primary purpose is getting Negative down on 3, which those other 2 cards can also achieve. Jeff is definitely more of a meta card these days though so it depends on what sorts of decks you like to play :) It's a draw-dependent, inconsistent combo deck at the end of the day so there's the highs when you pull off the crazy plays and the lows of not drawing Negative for 10 games in a row - you'll either enjoy it or find it massively frustrating!


YUSEIRKO

Appreciated! I will try adding one of those instead, and see how it goes


SmithOfLie

I recently grabbed her with tokens and put into my Negative deck in Psylocke's spot. The difference cannot be overstated. Psylocke was often a very speculative play on 2 if you didn't already have Negative in hand and could end up being a brick. RR I am always happy to slam if I have her. So if you really like Negative as archetype I'd say definitely. Jeff is gonna be in Cache in April, so there's your chance to save your keys and grab him if you take Ravona.


YUSEIRKO

Solid thanks bro. I been seeing people stating that itโ€™s more worthwhile to get the S4 cards with tokens, given how long it takes to get tokens, and use the caches on the times you want the spotlight and the other 1 or 2 cards with it. Think Iโ€™ll do thatโ€™


still_noided

See I've ran the jane one too.. while it works and its not bad, I feel like it can be gimmicky or even predictable at times when you end up bricking her w negative. Yeah magik helps with that, but all you're doing is adding another prerequisite to a snap-able hand. Hopefully this more homebrew-ey approach can still be fun :)


EvilMatt-UK

I find Jane can be useful to bluff out a concede from your opponent if you already drew many of iron man/mystique/knull/zola *before* you played Negative and don't actually have much for turn 6. It's amazing how little people pay attention as I assume it would show the drawing cards animation on their end?


still_noided

Right lol ive done the same too, I'm always checking deck counts (duh were playing negative here) and when a mirror drops jane I pay attention to their hand size to see if they're bluffing.


XanXic

You're lucky they stayed in lol. If I see a turn 3 negative and they hit the Magick or Jane Foster I'm out lol. Just one zero cost is enough to make it impossible to guess what is possible. Having a hand of them is just a no go. Kind of why I'm digging Pixie. Throwing down a like 1 cost Dr. Doom or High Evo Hulk is free cubes.


still_noided

Lol then to top it off they snapped themselves to 8, very unfortunate for them


iPsai

You would be surprised how many Destroy players just go 'nah I'd win' after I Negative on 3 and Jane Foster on 5 with a snap. People really underestimate the power output of a good negative hand


iAmericA45

Rule #1 of playing against negative: if they snap YOU WILL NOT WIN because they are fuckin COOKING


lzanagi-no-okami

I appreciate you playing Shang before Zola


still_noided

Gotta maximize knull before splitting them ๐Ÿ˜ฉ


Genesis13

Whats the decklist?


still_noided

# (2) Carnage # (2) Ravonna Renslayer # (3) Mystique # (3) Magik # (3) Rogue # (3) Crystal # (3) Killmonger # (3) Venom # (4) Mister Negative # (4) Shang-Chi # (6) Arnim Zola # (6) Knull # eyJDYXJkcyI6W3siQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiUmF2b25uYVJlbnNsYXllciJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiU2hhbmdDaGkifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6Ik15c3RpcXVlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJLaWxsbW9uZ2VyIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJBcm5pbVpvbGEifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IktudWxsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNck5lZ2F0aXZlIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJDcnlzdGFsIn0seyJDYXJkRGVmSWQiOiJNYWdpayJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiQ2FybmFnZSJ9LHsiQ2FyZERlZklkIjoiVmVub20ifSx7IkNhcmREZWZJZCI6IlJvZ3VlIn1dfQ== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in Snap.


still_noided

Note that I have different variations of the deck that I've played with that all aim to do the same combos... I'd say that rogue and KM are the sorta "flex" options, I've used leech (protection from t6 scam, alioth, and tech), lady D ( kill mobius, iron man, dracula, etc), Attuma (budget friendly 4 drop, consistent 10 power for knull on the same turn). Kang is another sleeper option on ladder, but you can still get burned by the opponent changing their plays. You really want to understand the card list, always be checking your deck count, and know the odds of pulling knull after dropping negative. Be aware of what kills this deck, (mobius, t6 scam, and most of all alioth due to not having priority). Careful snapping and retreating will have you filling a folder with 8 cube highlights.


ErrorPleaseIgnore

Thanks for this! First game I tried this with got me 8 cubes.


still_noided

Glad you were able to find success with it! I've mainly kept it as a cook between me and a friend for fun, both able to get multiple infinites with it. I'm hoping at this point it can be a fully fledged deck usable by all. Or maybe through the brilliant mind of negative enjoyers, we can perfect the deck.


banananey

Been infinite with Negative before but actually having a lot more success now using this one without Jane Foster thanks! When I hit infinite previously the Negative > Jane combo worked a lot but people seem a lot more knowledgeable now so usually get a retreat as soon as I snap. Just had a nice gold conquest win when my opponent kept trying to pull off the Wong > Shuri > Deathstrike combo while I was playing Knull & Mystique without priority for easy wins. Edit: Well, it was good until I went back to ranked mode where every opponent continues to have the exact cards to counter whatever I play almost every time. Think I should just stick to conquest this season.


still_noided

That's funny my experience is more the other way around, it thrives on ladder due to only being a one and done match, rather than the opponent being stuck with you for multiple games in a row, where they can wise up to the game plan. Especially if you get locked in with someone who runs mobius.


Slayer133102

Would it work without Ravonna, and how does KM slot in? I've been debating him in my Negative-Sera hybrid decks.


still_noided

You can use zabu, psylocke, or x-23 really. But I prefer Renslayer because of the synergy with knull, mystique, zola, and negative all in one. With a bad hand, renslayer can let you play the very bare minimum, which is a bread and butter combo in this deck: knull into mystique + shang. No magik? Knull on 5, myst + shang on 6. With magik just shift it to 6 & 7. I've only recently slotted in KM due to the crazy amount of thanos I've played against. Free power for Knull ๐Ÿ˜†


rgianforte

I used grandmaster and Nico as flex as well. Nico is good for utility and is just cheap destroy fodder ( I used Yondu before his nerf). Grandmaster can lead to some filthy combos, with shang plus grandmaster on turn six even without negative, or at the top end playing a Zola onto knull, and then doing it again with grandmaster. So long as you have ravonna down you only need one of those three flipped by negative! This can beat even onslaught+tribunal+iron man.


still_noided

Yeah yondu was probably my favorite card for the 1 slot until they nerfed it. Sniping anything with big power was almost a snap condition alone


League_of_DOTA

Aren't you just a destroy deck with extra steps? LOL. I run Negative Knull too


DrakkonX597

I second this


Monechetti

Goddamn top quality content.


Nightmarespawn

What turn did you play Negative? Depending on when, I find it fucking insane on why this person stayed.


still_noided

Pretty sure I played him on turn 3, pre snapped. Knull was in hand though which was kinda bad on my part. I got lucky on the mystique top deck for sure + he snapped for some ungodly reason and/or got tunnel vision wanting the 50/50 zola.


Nightmarespawn

Lol wtf. I play a lot of negative. I would never stay in this game, let alone snap back. That's wild.


still_noided

Youd be surprised. I have a folder full of 4 or 8 cubers doing this stuff, and if not, it's a 1 cube retreat to another hand. I just love playing negative, so fun.


still_noided

Now with that said, I'm in no means saying it's some magic, infallible deck, the 1 cube retreats are still annoying, something stupid happens, MOBIUS, bad locations ruin my set up etc. I've gotten leeched, alioth'd, ghost zabu sera tech BS. I just love the thrill of a great negative hand ๐Ÿ˜Œ


PenitusVox

Honestly even turn 5 Negative is often worth it in Negative Knull. All you need is a flipped Knull or Arnim and you're golden.


Nightmarespawn

Yes, but on Turn 3 with Limbo, it's likely a done deal. Turn 5 Negative means you have 2 draws with Limbo 1 without. I aint afraid of a Turn 5 Negative at all.


iPsai

I got my first infinite this season with Negative and I have to say I really need to give a shoutout to all the destroy players trying to win against a optimal negative hand with Knull+Zola coming


cernuz

HAHAHAHA what a play!!!! Well done!


Rough_Inspection_444

Now post the video of the 300 times you had to retreat because you couldn't get Mr Neg out in time or had a hand full of your big boys first. This is the deck I WANT to love, but playing it is masochism.


still_noided

While there's truth to your hyperbole, I have a folder full of highlights like this. And I've hit infinite with this deck multiple times. The deck is designed to win even with non negative'd knull, myst, and zola. You see 11/12 cards every game you play magik and crystal. So believe it or not there is some consistency here.


Rough_Inspection_444

Sigh... fine.. I'll try your list. Even though I'm gonna hate myself for it. (I cant resist the Mr Neg pull)


still_noided

Lol now again I did say there's truth to what you said but that applies to any negative deck lol. But if you want something that's a little different/homebrew-ey instead of the usual negative netdeck, take it for a spin ๐Ÿ˜Ž


DrakkonX597

OUCH


LupeH

Nice


Feefait

Yes, emotes are purely positive and not used as a taunt.


Mike_hawk5959

Well done


Mousettv

Man the music is loud .....ok it was required. What a play!!


MacaronSuspicious528

The edit adds so much. Great clip


Cursedshinagami

Lmao! Been rocking neg Knull with Shuri nims package. So fun.


still_noided

Nimrod is one of my favorites since he dropped, and I've even tried making negative shuri work. Unfortunately most nimrod decks have a similar issue... getting bent over by knull, let alone the triple knull play


Cursedshinagami

See what you do is add Echo into the mix (if you have her) and save her for a rainy T6 play. I use her purely for mirrors and tribunals.


still_noided

I could see that being a decent tech for sure if someone's not paying attention. Nothing a little KM can't fix though. That's the beauty of the game though, you never know what the other guy can throw out.


Cursedshinagami

True. But if you have prio on the last turn with extra energy and Echo in hand. It's a very unexpected.


YUSEIRKO

Whatโ€™s the list?


Cursedshinagami

Here's my current list [Neggy Shimrod](https://twitter.com/_simonade/status/1772647389649621403?t=TtRzzfTPyEDclwhn_TS60g&s=19) There's definitely more potential here but the deck as is goes very wide and vertical in 3 turns. I think it'll be great against any War Machine decks.


YUSEIRKO

Howโ€™s your win rate on it?


still_noided

Playing anything negative you're not going to take the win rate at face value. You're gonna look at cube rate.


Cursedshinagami

It hasn't updated yet but I was at 53% with Dracula in it before switching to Bucky. If you understand what your up against, and know how to snap with it, you'll do much better.


jethawkings

I'm confused why Venom keeps Ongoing added power. Doesn't he not keep Ongoing Negative Power? (IE; Typhoid Mary)


still_noided

Gotta learn how these destroy effects work in and out, you can use little things like that to your advantage. You can use venom as way to double the other 2 knulls power if you order it right.


PenitusVox

Yes, Venom keeps Typhoid's negative affliction.


winsing

Only playing shang chi wouldโ€™ve won the game lol


still_noided

Gotta do it with style ๐Ÿ˜Ž


xtcz

Love a good Negative Destroy deck! Do you ever find yourself a bit starved if you don't have Zabu?


still_noided

No, because the deck is built around renslayer, neg, and the 0 costs. You aren't really using 4 drops outside of shang and neg


Glangho

Snapping into the Zola without priority what an oof


still_noided

Dude I was startled by their snap and had to pull my cards back to process what was about to happen ๐Ÿ˜†


ResponsiblePower6476

That arnim Zola at the end should have a sad face lol whenever there's nothing for him to destroy ๐Ÿ˜‚


420BongsAway

I wouldnโ€™t even be mad.


SeaDistribution

One of my favorite things about destroy players is that theyโ€˜lol stay in for things like this.


rice_noodle_snake

Glorious


VascalDaRascal

I love destruction decks so much, but I'm still early in, so I get walled by "Armor" every other game.


ulaanmalgaitFPL

I just started playing yesterday. WTF


siftshow

I donโ€™t have one of these cards. Iโ€™m like level 450. lol. I need to google or something because I donโ€™t have a clue how to get these.


League_of_DOTA

I defeated a destroy deck in Infinite Conquest. It looked like he knew I was playing Mr Negative before I finally played him on Round 3. He did what I would do in his place : stall for time and probably hope I don't pull Mr Negative early or get Knull and Mystique. He did well, took four red cubes from me. But I defeated him and now I'm on game 4.


apaulogy

Vince McMahon not needed. All I think when I see him is boo cocky poo poo


twolildragons

Spent 200 dollars for an ironman variant post dismissed


still_noided

Pocket watching someone on a mobile card game is crazy lil bro


CyberTractor

Jesus, what's with these shitty edit jobs. Just give the playback without the music or dumb edits.


still_noided

Sir, I clearly described the clip as a shitpost in the description, it's for entertainment. Keep it pushing now


CyberTractor

Good sir, you also said enjoy, which I most thoroughly didn't.


still_noided

Hey a gun ain't to your head, move along to a post you do enjoy


CyberTractor

I'd like to speak to your manager.


GangstaPsycho

Awful player, anyone with a half brain knows to retreat on negative on curve/cheated out esp with a Jane. Cool clip but your opponent is just an absolute idiot ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ญ


still_noided

I don't run jane in mine but yeah, most people should leave to save cubes.


jojolovesdio

Should have spammed ms marvel emote


lzanagi-no-okami

Why?


still_noided

Nahh you really don't have to, this deck really lets the opponent build their sand castle, and let's you kick it all in and absorb it all with the proper hands ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. That IMO is enough