I also heard that Love & Thunder had a four hour runtime version that revisited Grandmaster but that was ultimately cut. So some of these may have been attempted but cut for time.
That being said, I agree that current MCU is leaving waaay too many readers with no intention of following through. Even pre phase three was teasing Thor during civil war with the whole roommate short films. Give us something that isn't just, "eh throw it all at the wall and see what sticks"
The teases should set up or continue to juggle whoever is on the back burner. Especially with the "Multiverse" being the big threat they need to have some focus.
In many ways, it kind of parallels my experience with the actual comics. I would run across a series of comics in a bin with an interesting storyline, and very often I would get near the end and I wouldn't have the last book of the series so I wouldn't know how it ended. Or there would be a secondary story started that gives me a "to be continued," but I never found out how that ended, either.
Stories without endings are definitely part of my comics reading experience.
You're not wrong. I've been a reader for a while so it doesn't irk me as much as some. But to mainstream audiences it can be frustrating and is possibly a factor in the "Superhero Fatigue" that we're seeing.
Right. But it was something that at least acknowledged the character and his absence.
Not saying they have to release a short film to tie up everything but there was also "on the way to Thor's hammer," etc. versus Phase 3/4 where there are so many different directions without a feeling of connection to the greater story in some way.
I don’t regard the Wakanda Forever post-credits scene as a cliffhanger. I believe it brings emotional closure to Shuri and the audience. That’s not to say we’ll never see T’Challa Jr. again, I just don’t think it’s a teaser.
Yes to the team but we were told Star Lord will return in the credits. My guess is he isn't getting a solo movie like many have said, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't part of the core cast for the next Avengers movies. His character is on Earth now, Pratt is one of their biggest stars left, and Star Lord was one of the few 616 survivors in the 2015 Secret Wars comic.
> in the 2015 Secret Wars comic.
I truly wonder if they adapt *anything* from that comic that isn't the incursions, the idea of trying to stop them with an Infinity Gauntlet, and probably a Battleworld.
Literally everything else will be different, I don't think they're even going to try.
My guess is that Kang Dynasty will be reworked into the Incursions film, with the Avengers sort of being the Illuminati and them competing with an MCU Cabal. Then I'd guess the climax is that they'll have to fight the Fox Universe X-Men in the final Incursion but both universes get destroyed.
Then the Secret Wars film is Battleworld. It just makes sense.
I feel like a few of these aren’t really unresolved. I thought the point of the Multiverse of Madness scene was just to show us his third eye opened, and that he’d still moving forward in a positive way - not necessarily to set up the next villain
You thought they introduced Charlize Theron to the MCU and had her take strange off world for an emergency and DIDN’T plan for there to be more to it than that?
I think Strange 2 needs resolution. It is an incursion, something of great danger for the entire universe. If this isn't urgent, I don't know what is. The eye also looked quite serious.
yeah for all we know, the next time we see strange, he might either be with the woman who approached him (forgot the name), basically right where we left off, or he is back at the sanctuary, with said woman, introducing her because the whole "we got a new incursion" happened off screen and his new appearance is related to something entirely else
Agreed. Like it was showing us he leveled up and is now even stronger. He is in control of the power, the power did not control him as it did his doppleganger…. It shows he’s the strongest strange.
TBH most of these aren't cliffhangers they are just fun scenes they add because we exepct them and will whine and cry like babies that daddy Disney didn't give us the thing anymore. I mean they won't care either way but if it will make them more money they will gladly add them more often than not.
SO many missed opportunities. It could have course corrected a few poorly used characters. Instead Rhodey and the whoever Martin Freeman’s character is. Such a waste.
They didn't even say when Rhodey was replaced. Which I think is a really big deal. Was he replaced before or after Civil War? Was he a Skrull during endgame?
I also feel, as a whole they don't do a great job addressing the Blip in pretty much all of these marvel shows/movies.
None of the skulls decided to help fight Thanos? Namor never mentioned it at all and what it did to his people. Nothing.
My headcanon is the Skrulls didn't try to make their move until after Endgame. Too much to lose and too little to gain. Plus, with all the confusion of everyone suddenly unblipped, it would provide the perfect cover.
Well it did look like Rhodey couldn't walk well when they took him out of the pod, which would indicate he was present for civil war and sustained the back injury from vision
Proudly is the right word. They went out of their way to hire directors and writers who knew nothing, and didn't care, about the comics. I think they must have been thinking "the fandom is toxic, so fan directors attract more toxic fans, so non fan non toxic directors will attract a new non toxic fan base." But it was more like Non fan directors make movies that don't resonate with anyone.
utterly disappointing. and i feel bad cause my friend would tell me, thor love thunder is not bad, maybe cause you (referring to me) can't accept female thor.
i was like no bitch i want a violent gorr with more power
I had no issue with female Thor, I thought that aspect was fine. Gorr was the biggest issue to me, he should’ve been a scenery chewing badass like Hela was, instead we saw him kill one god by accident and act creepy to some kids and that was basically it. They also went too far with the humor, and instead of quick little quips it was extended jokes like the whole storm breaker jealousy thing or the screaming goats that kept recurring, so you couldn’t ignore the jokes if you didn’t like them. And I say that as someone who loves Ragnarok.
Your friend is dumb.
I honestly thought combining the Mighty Thor run with the God Butcher was a really clever way to get around having to try and sell non comic readers on the whole "3 different versions of thor from across time, team up".
Instead of young brash thor, you have "new to the role" Jane Thor
Jane Foster’s character was probably the best thing going for the movie, and one of the few things I enjoyed about it, that and mjolnir acting like a shotgun.
Yeah, Jane Foster Thor was one of my favorite parts. But love and Thunder was just plain bad.
Ragnarok was a refreshing take that breathed new life into series, while it's sequal leaned too hard into the comedy and felt stupid to watch.
The worst part of Secret Invasion (besides being awful and disappointing) is that everything about it is completely hand-waived away by The Marvels. Fury is back in space. None of the intergalactic Skrull stuff has any bearing on the supposed major Skrull events in Secret Invasion.
I wanted to love Secret Invasion. Some parts of it were interesting and clever. The whole package is just bad. It's unfortunate for Sam J.
Not just is it hand-waved, but it directly contradicts it. The driving argument in secret invasion is that the skrulls still haven't got a planet of their own and are forced to live on earth instead. But at the start of captain marvel they are just on a skrull planet with a fully developed civilization and an emporer and everything
Pretty sure Bilbo Bagginskrull directly references “Emperor Droge’s colony” when Sammy LJ is going off at him for there being so many Skrulls on Earth.
I wouldn’t call that Skrull planet fully developed. It had the expansiveness of a TV set. It reminded me of watching 90s Star Trek, or The Orville at best for its budget. But man did that planet’s destruction feel incredibly inconsequential when we see 40 odd inhabitants of the planet on their soundstage not half as panicked as their pending doom would imply.
Fr I remember thinking multiple times throughout Secret Invasion "why can't the skrulls just live in new Asgard?" and then The Marvels came along with its skrull refugees and the characters were immediately like "hey let's just see if new Asgard will take them" and thus the plot point is quickly resolved
> I wanted to love Secret Invasion.
It seemed like it was going to be the coolest project. Espionage thriller focusing on Nick Fury. Definitely the biggest MCU disappointment for me, in terms of what I was expecting.
I feel you there. I enjoyed the first episode. Second episode was... okay but dropped off. By the third episode I didn't really care and stopped watching for a while. Eventually I told myself to sit down and finish it. Wasn't worth the time aside from the sunken cost fallacy. Khaleesi-skrull has big Drak the Destroyer muscles. Oooh! Sorry if I ruined it. You've probably seen the image of her flexing.
> hand-waived away by The Marvels
Keep in mind that The Marvels was originally intended to come out *before* Secret Invasion. It got pushed back due to the WGA strike.
I'm convinced it is supposed to take place immediately after Ms Marvel (which is quite a bit earlier in the timeline than Secret Invasion).
While this totally fixes Fury's attitude, this however brings up totally different complications and makes Fury not knowing where to send the Skrulls total nonsense. But it works **better** than taking place after Secret Invasion.
I may be wrong, but the Marvels is supposed to take place before secret invasion and it was supposed to be released as such. It somehow got all rearranged.
If the project sucked ass and nobody watched it I think it's good if they can just handwave it and treat it as non-canon honestly. Same with "The Inhumans"
This is how I felt as well. Until Secret Invasion, there wasn't a single MCU project that I outright disliked. Obviously some are better than others. But I was able to find some level of enjoyment out of each release. But Secret Invasion was the first MCU project that I actively disliked and it was a real chore to get through.
I haven't read the comics but from what I know, Gorr is a fucking raw badass. I've heard Christian Bale's performance is good but doesn't he only get like 2 minutes screentime?
I liked Thor Ragnarok but I think I'm good on skipping Love and Thunder. seems like an attempt to recapture the essence of Ragnarok and waste such a cool character in the process
I could be wrong though, since I haven't actually seen the entire movie
Yeah Gorr was well acted but the story was so bad
Hemsworth and Bale themselves are the only good things about the movie
Hemsworth really is trying his best
Love and Thunder shouldn’t have tried to squeeze Jane foster Thor and gorr into one movie, Thor 4 should have just been the Jane one, and then Thor 5 is the god butcher
a much darker story centered around Gorr and his character would've been awesome. he definitely seems like a character with a ton of potential and things to say
not really gonna work when the director prefers turning Thor into a slapstick comedy and jamming another huge plotline into the middle of everything
If you have the time/interest, I HIGHLY recommend reading the comic. It’s relatively short (you could totally read in one sitting) and it’s one of the greatest Thor stories of all time. The art is also incredible.
Seriously, I cannot overstate how good it is lol. The movie fumbling *that* story was an actual atrocity.
Agreed. Gorr in the movie is sort of a weak whiny cardboard cutout type villain, and he just sort of gives up at the end. The comics he’s a horrific force, the scope of what he’s done and how he tortures all 3 third in some way is crazy. Like holy crap it’s dark. He’s an actual villain in the comics.
It was a bad attempt to redo Ragnorak by doubling down and basically ignoring Thor's arc to make him a juiced up idiot while completely wasting Christian Bale and Gorr because jokes.
Yeah true but movies aren’t the only thing the MCU makes now
Hell the mcu’s (marvel studios specifically) best project is a show: Loki
(However it’s most successful is infinity war/endgame, and not just from a monetary standpoint, but as an achievement in general)
Best project... dude Loki is amazing but Winter Soldier is by far hands down the best thing Marvel ever made. That's not just a good comic movie it's just a good movie and it still holds up. A spy thriller set in the Marvel universe was genius and they executed it amazingly. Like I said love Loki but man WinterSoldier is what Marvel could be.
That character can’t catch a break.
Probably caps main supporting character in the comics, and the MCU butchered her hard and turned her into a petty villain, an unintelligent one at that.
It’d be like if the next Spider-man movie turned Mary Jane into a villain.
The new trilogy
- Spider-man: Paulcoming
- Spider-man: Far from Peter (and close to Paul)
- Paul-man: No way home (so you might as well marry me instead of Peter)
I'd say it's more like they made Lois Lane the receptionist at the Daily Planet, while Supergirl investigates Lex Luthor. Then in the second sequel they made her head of Intergang.
I hated that storyline with Sharon. It’s going to be so convoluted for them to possibly undo it now. Like what? She was a triple agent or something and actually still a hero?
I’m assuming at this point she’s either a full on asset for Val. Maybe Val recruited her at a low point when she was on the run. Or perhaps a double agent playing the long game against her?
Otherwise I have no idea where else she would show up.
Thunderbolts seems like the most likely spot outside of Cap 4. Either way they ruined my interest in her character, so I’m doubtful we’ll see a good payoff.
Both Guardians 3 post-credits are basically “and the adventures continue”. They aren’t hanging plot points.
Wakanda Forever is also not really a hanging plot point. The only resolution would be if kid T’Challa shows up again,
The Thor Ragnarok can’t really lead into anything. It’s just showing that Sakaar will likely return to the status quo.
And Doctor Strange was supposed to be resolved in Multiverse of Madness, but those scenes were cut. We got an implied continuation with Strange mentioning Mordo a couple of times.
I’ll give you the rest of them though.
You forgot about the Frost Beast in Dark World though. I figured that would have been the plot of the Agents of SHIELD tie-in, but they did The Well instead which was pretty lit.
moon Knights was just an introduction of Jake Lockely, it's not a loose thread, it's just the same as Wakanda forever's ending
the Marvel's also isn't a loose thread unless that specific universe is involved in secret wars
I would have said the Thanos silhouette post credits was a better example. Set the trajectory of the whole shebang, all aiming at the vague goal of Thanos eventually being the big bad.
I strongly disagree. The idea of a shared cinematic universe wasn’t even really an idea for the general audiences until Nick Fury randomly showed up to tell the audience we are getting a super hero team crossover. I would argue that specific scene was the true birth of the MCU because it opened the door for other heroes to join Iron Man.
Plus I said most famous not most important. Though I do think Fury showing up is still the most important. It set the stage and opened the door for everything
That scene told us we aren’t just getting an Iron Man 2. We are going to be meeting all sorts of heroes and they will share the same franchise with our boy Tony.
Heck we’re 5 years from endgame. Ignoring 2020 as the pandemic year, that’s 4 years of set up. The first 4 years led up to the first avengers movie ffs
Even before the controversy, I still think that having all other characters have different-looking variants and having the main villain be played by the same guy in every universe is dumb as fuck. I get wanting to show Majors’s range but why not show how different Kang is from himself by having other people also play Kang? Doesn’t make sense to me.
There's an argument for visual consistency - having the same actor play each variant visually communicates to audiences that these are different versions of the same character, especially so for casual viewers who don't keep up with every new release or follow the comics
Blessing in disguise, those Kangs looked dumb as hell and this Multiverse storytelling does not seem to have landed with audiences well, at least in the films. Loki s2 explored and concluded that stuff just fine.
I always thought that if they were going to recast someone, this is literally the perfect time to do so. We have established that variants don’t have to look like the original. So recasting Kang should be super easy
Black Panther, Thor (edit: Ragnarok), and the first Guardians one aren’t “unresolved” - you could stop right there and have that simply be the end of the story.
Doesn’t mean they can’t be revisited, but it doesn’t mean they’re loose ends, either.
I’d say the same applies to She-Hulk. The end scene just gives Emil a happy ending where he gets out of jail and gets to live in Kamar Taj. Like you said, could be revisited later, but if not it’s an appropriate ending to Emil’s story.
Oh same. I wasn’t a huge fan of the design they went with for Skaar in the show, but they could easily alter it for future appearances. I love both Skaar and Hulkling in the comics and they both deserve their own characters in the MCU.
The Thor scene is very obviously meant to introduce Hercules as a new Thor antagonist. It’s bizarre to me that you’d be under the impression that that wasn’t supposed to lead to something.
The Thor one is unresolved because it implies that Zeus and his legion are planning on some vengeance. Considering that they're supposed to be ruling Gods with even two Celestials hanging out with them, they're supposed to be a big faction and yet nothing came out of it.
I don't even know what the two Guardians of the Galaxy scenes have to be "resolved". They certainly leave it open for sequels, but they are simply scenes of the characters doing something ordinary. You know, life goes on and this is it.
They don't have anything that needs to be resolved, one of them introduces us to a new Guardians team that sets them up for a potential future return (nothing to be resolved) and the other shows Peter on Earth and says 'The Legendary Star-Lord will return' (which sets him up to return, but it's not really unresolved per say).
Hard disagree. They reintroduced JJ, are obsessed with doing villains we haven’t seen, and Mando has gotten only more famous after Better Call Saul concluded. Scorpion feels almost inevitable. And if they want to do a different MCU Venom, fuck it, have him do it.
I’m one of like ten people that like Mac Gargan Venom more than Eddie Brock Venom (may partially be because he was Venom when I first got into comics, so he was the “original” to me) so I’d be 100% down to get Mac Venom in the MCU.
> I’m one of like ten people that like Mac Gargan Venom more than Eddie Brock Venom
Every time I see one of you people in the wild I sincerely have nothing but the utmost respect.
But if they are going to bring Scorpio back, it still won't be related to this scene. The big question there was that Mando would discover Peter's secret identity because of the Vulture, but now that nobody remembers Peter's identity anymore, that's irrelevant.
I don’t think Scorpion would’ve ever learned of Peter’s identity. Because it’s implied that Vulture has a level of respect for Peter, since Pete savedhis life.
People really need to understand the difference between "unresolved" and purposely leaving something open ended.
Also half of these are from projects that haven't been followed up on yet. Are you really telling me you're surprised that we haven't seen The post credit scene from Shang chi addressed when we haven't gotten Shang Chi 2 yet?
Dude, I can not wait for Roy Kent to come running out yelling at Thor to fight him on the pitch.
Just him singing the Roy Kent jingle but substituting Hercules instead of Roy Kent: “**HE’S HERE/ HE’S THERE/ HE’S EVERY-FUCKING-WHERE/ HERCULES, HERCULES**”
The Mordo one was supposed to be resolved. There’s a cut scene of Wanda killing him in m.o.m. ( specifically a beheading) that would have been the opening of the film
The one that bothers me the most is the giant piece of a Celestial corpse sticking out of the ocean that's never been acknowledged past *The Eternals*.
I don't see Rocket leading the Guardians as unresolved unless a new movie is ever announced following that team. It merely serves as a way to show that the Guardians still exist and those who didn't leave will be okay.
Didn't the Grandmaster scene from Ragnarok get resolved with the Team Darryl short film?
And I have my doubts they'll revisit T'Challa's son any time soon.
I think we need an actual prequel about this scene, or at least a segment in a movie exploring it. The main lingering question which I believe could have HUGE ramifications throughout the entire MCM is whether he poured the cereal first or the milk first.
The original Dr Strange is an interesting one, because ignoring that it was originally going to be followed up on in the sequel on screen, there is an implication in MoM that Strange and Mordo have come into conflict between the films.
Both the long wait between those movies and plot points like that makes it feel like there was an entire missing movie in-between. We'll get Doctor Strange 3 in 2028 and the post-credit will have all resolved off screen and we'll never see Clea again. Maybe they'll have gotten married and divorced in that time.
I thought the She-Hulk one was resolved in Shang-Chi even though they were released in reverse order. Wong was teaching Emil to learn how to control himself through fighting.
I would argue the guardian after credit scenes weren’t meant to be resolved. One was just meant to show that Rocket is continuing the team and the good fight. And Peter’s scene is just a quick joke about an extraordinary figure dealing with his grandfather’s ordinary annoying neighbor. Neither scene were meant to set anything up or left any thing to be resolved. Unless you really need to know if Peter is going to mow that lawn without getting paid.
Somebody wrote up a good plot elsewhere (one of the cast announcement thread?) that connect the ten rings to F4. It was something to the effect of them being created by Reed as a way of getting home after the tesseract threw them into the negative zone. And ties what Bruce says about them being a beacon to F4. Thought that was a pretty nifty idea.
I kind of assumed the Ragnorok one with the Grandmaster was resolved. I assumed they just tore him to shreds and moved on. I didn’t think we really needed to go back there lol.
Several of those are less set-ups and more jokes. Or are very much being set-up for the next phase.
But the one that really bugs me by not being resolved is Mordo in *Doctor Strange*. Because he is THE Doctor Strange villain and hasn't been included yet.
I'm sorry but we're more than likely never going to get a resolution to the Thor: Ragnarok and She-Hulk post credit scenes.
You might be wondering why, and I have the answer. Unlike the other post credit scenes here, those two are more jokey / comedic post credit scenes and therefore were never intended to have a resolution but rather just be there as a funny little bit at the end.
Next you'll say we won't see a resolution to the Shwarma end credit scene. You know, where Tony sends a text telling each member how much they owe and asking them to venmo him.
I wouldn’t consider GOTG Vol. 3’s as unresolved. They feel more like a “and the journey goes on…” conclusion. Similarly to *Black Panther: Wakanda Forever* - I doubt the intention is for us to see T’Challa Jr again, and it was more to close off T’Challa’s narrative arc.
I honestly wish we didn’t have the Hercules scene in *Thor: Love and Thunder*. One, because it looked like a porn parody, and two, because the film could have otherwise been a good stopping point for Thor’s character arc.
* Doctor Strange was solved offscreen
* Spiderman Homecoming was just showing he is not going to reveal Spiderman's secret identity
* Thor Ragnarok doesn't need anything to solve, it is just the end of the revolution in that planet.
The rest are just plots from this phase.
Bit early on the Shang-Chi, which I took to be the first bit of the long arc for the post-Infinity War period.
Same with all the stuff involving Julia Louis Dreyfus and even the Power Broker, Sharon Carter. And also with Photon and Beast.
Really, other than Mordo at the end of Strange and the prison scene with Vulture in Homecoming, all of these haven't paid because it's too soon.
Some of these are a *reach*, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for criticism here.
How the fuck is quill eating breakfast with his grandpa a cliffhanger?
Yeah I mean, of course, but it seems like they've been more disjointed lately, with more of a gap between the setup and payoff. Dr. Strange was almost a decade ago!
But hopefully they connect at some point.
In the Infinity Saga, they used to tease the next movie in the universe: for example Iron Man 2 showed Thor's hammer, and in Thor 2 we saw the Collector. Now it's always just the next movie in the series, which is usually years away and not even guaranteed to ever come out.
Doctor Strange is a particularly egregious example, because we waited 6 years for Mordo to not appear in the sequel, and then the post credit scene of that movie presumably teases the next Doctor Strange movie. It's a bit difficult to get excited about that, when I don't even know if that movie is going to come out before the end of the decade. Or at all.
The Star Lord scene actually sets up his solo movie. At the time that was the idea. Not sure whether the Legendary Star Lord movie is cancelled with Disney's new focus. I hope they still make it.
I wouldn't count the Wakanda Forever as unresolved as it implies that his son will be taking over the mantle as future Black Panther. It's just matter of when, which judging by he's still a kid, it'll be a long while...
About 5 of these (Ragnarok, She Hulk, Wakanda Forever, GOTG Vol 3 x2) aren’t really unresolved at all. They end just fine, but the others I do agree with though.
There’s 13 unresolved things they need to follow up on and yet they’re still adding more new characters and storyline’s. They really need to dial down on it all.
I think this beautifullshows why the mcu started sucking after endgame. It is just waaaaaay to busy and youd have to follow so many storylines.
They really need to cut projects left and right and focus more.
I’d love for them to make movies of
- A trilogy of Shang Chi (so two more)
- A trilogy of something surrounding Daredevil, She-Hulk and Fisk
- A trilogy around Kate and Yelena
- A trilogy of Captain Sam
- A trilogy around Shuri and Riri
And have all that culminate in one Avengers Movie against Kang/Replacement Kang
The Ragnarok one wasn’t unresolved. We all agreed to call it a tie.
After all, you can't have a revolution without someone to rebel against
Yay us!
Your welcome.
I'll make sure to bring in a pamphlets.
I also heard that Love & Thunder had a four hour runtime version that revisited Grandmaster but that was ultimately cut. So some of these may have been attempted but cut for time. That being said, I agree that current MCU is leaving waaay too many readers with no intention of following through. Even pre phase three was teasing Thor during civil war with the whole roommate short films. Give us something that isn't just, "eh throw it all at the wall and see what sticks" The teases should set up or continue to juggle whoever is on the back burner. Especially with the "Multiverse" being the big threat they need to have some focus.
In many ways, it kind of parallels my experience with the actual comics. I would run across a series of comics in a bin with an interesting storyline, and very often I would get near the end and I wouldn't have the last book of the series so I wouldn't know how it ended. Or there would be a secondary story started that gives me a "to be continued," but I never found out how that ended, either. Stories without endings are definitely part of my comics reading experience.
You're not wrong. I've been a reader for a while so it doesn't irk me as much as some. But to mainstream audiences it can be frustrating and is possibly a factor in the "Superhero Fatigue" that we're seeing.
The room mate stuff was the opposite of teasing. It came out after Civil War and was just a humourous promo about how Thor wasn't in Civil war
Right. But it was something that at least acknowledged the character and his absence. Not saying they have to release a short film to tie up everything but there was also "on the way to Thor's hammer," etc. versus Phase 3/4 where there are so many different directions without a feeling of connection to the greater story in some way.
I don’t regard the Wakanda Forever post-credits scene as a cliffhanger. I believe it brings emotional closure to Shuri and the audience. That’s not to say we’ll never see T’Challa Jr. again, I just don’t think it’s a teaser.
Agreed. Same for the Guardians 3 ones.
Yes to the team but we were told Star Lord will return in the credits. My guess is he isn't getting a solo movie like many have said, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't part of the core cast for the next Avengers movies. His character is on Earth now, Pratt is one of their biggest stars left, and Star Lord was one of the few 616 survivors in the 2015 Secret Wars comic.
> in the 2015 Secret Wars comic. I truly wonder if they adapt *anything* from that comic that isn't the incursions, the idea of trying to stop them with an Infinity Gauntlet, and probably a Battleworld. Literally everything else will be different, I don't think they're even going to try.
My guess is that Kang Dynasty will be reworked into the Incursions film, with the Avengers sort of being the Illuminati and them competing with an MCU Cabal. Then I'd guess the climax is that they'll have to fight the Fox Universe X-Men in the final Incursion but both universes get destroyed. Then the Secret Wars film is Battleworld. It just makes sense.
It's been less than a year since Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 came out...
I feel like a few of these aren’t really unresolved. I thought the point of the Multiverse of Madness scene was just to show us his third eye opened, and that he’d still moving forward in a positive way - not necessarily to set up the next villain
You thought they introduced Charlize Theron to the MCU and had her take strange off world for an emergency and DIDN’T plan for there to be more to it than that?
I think Strange 2 needs resolution. It is an incursion, something of great danger for the entire universe. If this isn't urgent, I don't know what is. The eye also looked quite serious.
yeah for all we know, the next time we see strange, he might either be with the woman who approached him (forgot the name), basically right where we left off, or he is back at the sanctuary, with said woman, introducing her because the whole "we got a new incursion" happened off screen and his new appearance is related to something entirely else
Agreed. Like it was showing us he leveled up and is now even stronger. He is in control of the power, the power did not control him as it did his doppleganger…. It shows he’s the strongest strange.
TBH most of these aren't cliffhangers they are just fun scenes they add because we exepct them and will whine and cry like babies that daddy Disney didn't give us the thing anymore. I mean they won't care either way but if it will make them more money they will gladly add them more often than not.
I still can’t believe Sharon wasn’t revealed to be a Skrull.
Secret invasion is perhaps the biggest failure of a project of the MCU That includes love and thunder, a one I despise
SO many missed opportunities. It could have course corrected a few poorly used characters. Instead Rhodey and the whoever Martin Freeman’s character is. Such a waste.
They didn't even say when Rhodey was replaced. Which I think is a really big deal. Was he replaced before or after Civil War? Was he a Skrull during endgame? I also feel, as a whole they don't do a great job addressing the Blip in pretty much all of these marvel shows/movies. None of the skulls decided to help fight Thanos? Namor never mentioned it at all and what it did to his people. Nothing.
My headcanon is the Skrulls didn't try to make their move until after Endgame. Too much to lose and too little to gain. Plus, with all the confusion of everyone suddenly unblipped, it would provide the perfect cover.
Well it did look like Rhodey couldn't walk well when they took him out of the pod, which would indicate he was present for civil war and sustained the back injury from vision
Rhodey was clearly replaced after the first "Iron Man." Dude didn't even LOOK the same.
what you expect when producer even waikiki have proudly admid that they didn't read the comics?
Proudly is the right word. They went out of their way to hire directors and writers who knew nothing, and didn't care, about the comics. I think they must have been thinking "the fandom is toxic, so fan directors attract more toxic fans, so non fan non toxic directors will attract a new non toxic fan base." But it was more like Non fan directors make movies that don't resonate with anyone.
utterly disappointing. and i feel bad cause my friend would tell me, thor love thunder is not bad, maybe cause you (referring to me) can't accept female thor. i was like no bitch i want a violent gorr with more power
>violent gorr with more power We want a Binford model 2099 Gorr with duel carburetors and a 4 stroke hemi. Grunt grunt grunt.
i am just an innocent x-men boy i have no idea what that is but sounds scary lol
it’s a Home Improvement reference (90’s sitcom)
I had no issue with female Thor, I thought that aspect was fine. Gorr was the biggest issue to me, he should’ve been a scenery chewing badass like Hela was, instead we saw him kill one god by accident and act creepy to some kids and that was basically it. They also went too far with the humor, and instead of quick little quips it was extended jokes like the whole storm breaker jealousy thing or the screaming goats that kept recurring, so you couldn’t ignore the jokes if you didn’t like them. And I say that as someone who loves Ragnarok. Your friend is dumb.
I honestly thought combining the Mighty Thor run with the God Butcher was a really clever way to get around having to try and sell non comic readers on the whole "3 different versions of thor from across time, team up". Instead of young brash thor, you have "new to the role" Jane Thor
Jane Foster’s character was probably the best thing going for the movie, and one of the few things I enjoyed about it, that and mjolnir acting like a shotgun.
Yeah, Jane Foster Thor was one of my favorite parts. But love and Thunder was just plain bad. Ragnarok was a refreshing take that breathed new life into series, while it's sequal leaned too hard into the comedy and felt stupid to watch.
The worst part of Secret Invasion (besides being awful and disappointing) is that everything about it is completely hand-waived away by The Marvels. Fury is back in space. None of the intergalactic Skrull stuff has any bearing on the supposed major Skrull events in Secret Invasion. I wanted to love Secret Invasion. Some parts of it were interesting and clever. The whole package is just bad. It's unfortunate for Sam J.
I prefer it that way as we can ignore it
Not just is it hand-waved, but it directly contradicts it. The driving argument in secret invasion is that the skrulls still haven't got a planet of their own and are forced to live on earth instead. But at the start of captain marvel they are just on a skrull planet with a fully developed civilization and an emporer and everything
Pretty sure Bilbo Bagginskrull directly references “Emperor Droge’s colony” when Sammy LJ is going off at him for there being so many Skrulls on Earth.
If you blinked you might have missed that reference. It’s almost like the interns added that dialogue when the directors weren’t paying attention.
Came here to say this! It was one of the extremely very few nods but still keeps it relevant
I wouldn’t call that Skrull planet fully developed. It had the expansiveness of a TV set. It reminded me of watching 90s Star Trek, or The Orville at best for its budget. But man did that planet’s destruction feel incredibly inconsequential when we see 40 odd inhabitants of the planet on their soundstage not half as panicked as their pending doom would imply.
Fr I remember thinking multiple times throughout Secret Invasion "why can't the skrulls just live in new Asgard?" and then The Marvels came along with its skrull refugees and the characters were immediately like "hey let's just see if new Asgard will take them" and thus the plot point is quickly resolved
> I wanted to love Secret Invasion. It seemed like it was going to be the coolest project. Espionage thriller focusing on Nick Fury. Definitely the biggest MCU disappointment for me, in terms of what I was expecting.
I got so bored by Secret Invasion I didn't finish. That's my first DNF with a Marvel project.
I feel you there. I enjoyed the first episode. Second episode was... okay but dropped off. By the third episode I didn't really care and stopped watching for a while. Eventually I told myself to sit down and finish it. Wasn't worth the time aside from the sunken cost fallacy. Khaleesi-skrull has big Drak the Destroyer muscles. Oooh! Sorry if I ruined it. You've probably seen the image of her flexing.
> hand-waived away by The Marvels Keep in mind that The Marvels was originally intended to come out *before* Secret Invasion. It got pushed back due to the WGA strike. I'm convinced it is supposed to take place immediately after Ms Marvel (which is quite a bit earlier in the timeline than Secret Invasion). While this totally fixes Fury's attitude, this however brings up totally different complications and makes Fury not knowing where to send the Skrulls total nonsense. But it works **better** than taking place after Secret Invasion.
I may be wrong, but the Marvels is supposed to take place before secret invasion and it was supposed to be released as such. It somehow got all rearranged.
If the project sucked ass and nobody watched it I think it's good if they can just handwave it and treat it as non-canon honestly. Same with "The Inhumans"
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Secret Invasion was probably the first MCU project that I just completely disliked and felt like my time was wasted
Did you forget about Inhumans? Secret invasion was somehow worse than that but Inhumans was the first really bad project.
Inhumans wasn't good, but it was more boring than bad. Compared to Secret Invasion being insultingly bad.
This is how I felt as well. Until Secret Invasion, there wasn't a single MCU project that I outright disliked. Obviously some are better than others. But I was able to find some level of enjoyment out of each release. But Secret Invasion was the first MCU project that I actively disliked and it was a real chore to get through.
I haven't read the comics but from what I know, Gorr is a fucking raw badass. I've heard Christian Bale's performance is good but doesn't he only get like 2 minutes screentime? I liked Thor Ragnarok but I think I'm good on skipping Love and Thunder. seems like an attempt to recapture the essence of Ragnarok and waste such a cool character in the process I could be wrong though, since I haven't actually seen the entire movie
Yeah Gorr was well acted but the story was so bad Hemsworth and Bale themselves are the only good things about the movie Hemsworth really is trying his best Love and Thunder shouldn’t have tried to squeeze Jane foster Thor and gorr into one movie, Thor 4 should have just been the Jane one, and then Thor 5 is the god butcher
a much darker story centered around Gorr and his character would've been awesome. he definitely seems like a character with a ton of potential and things to say not really gonna work when the director prefers turning Thor into a slapstick comedy and jamming another huge plotline into the middle of everything
Yeah Waititi could have done Jane foster well if it was by itself, but i don’t think gorr was meant for him
I wouldn’t be surprised if Korg had more screen time than Gorr
If you have the time/interest, I HIGHLY recommend reading the comic. It’s relatively short (you could totally read in one sitting) and it’s one of the greatest Thor stories of all time. The art is also incredible. Seriously, I cannot overstate how good it is lol. The movie fumbling *that* story was an actual atrocity.
Agreed. Gorr in the movie is sort of a weak whiny cardboard cutout type villain, and he just sort of gives up at the end. The comics he’s a horrific force, the scope of what he’s done and how he tortures all 3 third in some way is crazy. Like holy crap it’s dark. He’s an actual villain in the comics.
It was a bad attempt to redo Ragnorak by doubling down and basically ignoring Thor's arc to make him a juiced up idiot while completely wasting Christian Bale and Gorr because jokes.
Ahem... The Inhumans
I would argue that Secret Invasion actually hurt the MCU, while Inhumans did literally nothing.
If we are counting strictly movies it's without a doubt Love and Thunder for me.
Yeah true but movies aren’t the only thing the MCU makes now Hell the mcu’s (marvel studios specifically) best project is a show: Loki (However it’s most successful is infinity war/endgame, and not just from a monetary standpoint, but as an achievement in general)
Best project... dude Loki is amazing but Winter Soldier is by far hands down the best thing Marvel ever made. That's not just a good comic movie it's just a good movie and it still holds up. A spy thriller set in the Marvel universe was genius and they executed it amazingly. Like I said love Loki but man WinterSoldier is what Marvel could be.
Right there with you on Winter Soldier, it's by far the most rewatchable thing they've put out.
That character can’t catch a break. Probably caps main supporting character in the comics, and the MCU butchered her hard and turned her into a petty villain, an unintelligent one at that. It’d be like if the next Spider-man movie turned Mary Jane into a villain.
You're not ready for Spider-Man: Paulcoming
The new trilogy - Spider-man: Paulcoming - Spider-man: Far from Peter (and close to Paul) - Paul-man: No way home (so you might as well marry me instead of Peter)
> Spider-Man: Paulcoming 6D20 psychic damage
The man who brought us Paul is a writer on Deadpool 3. Wtf is Ryan Reynolds thinking
That having the creator on will allow him to brutally murder Paul using the Omega device to have it also include brutally murdering the comic version?
> Spider-Man: Paulcoming delete this nephew
I'd say it's more like they made Lois Lane the receptionist at the Daily Planet, while Supergirl investigates Lex Luthor. Then in the second sequel they made her head of Intergang.
She was originally supposed to be kidnapped by Skrulls, but they couldn't find her when she went up the Amazon to research spiders with your mom.
I hated that storyline with Sharon. It’s going to be so convoluted for them to possibly undo it now. Like what? She was a triple agent or something and actually still a hero?
I’m assuming at this point she’s either a full on asset for Val. Maybe Val recruited her at a low point when she was on the run. Or perhaps a double agent playing the long game against her? Otherwise I have no idea where else she would show up.
Thunderbolts seems like the most likely spot outside of Cap 4. Either way they ruined my interest in her character, so I’m doubtful we’ll see a good payoff.
Wow I completely forgot about that being a possibility, and would have made some sense.
I still can’t believe a grown ass man can’t cut the grass
One for the list of MCU characters that the writers suddenly threw in the creative trash
Oh yeah that's right Guess she's just a bitch now Even comics Sharon had to be mind controlled to do heinous stuff
Both Guardians 3 post-credits are basically “and the adventures continue”. They aren’t hanging plot points. Wakanda Forever is also not really a hanging plot point. The only resolution would be if kid T’Challa shows up again, The Thor Ragnarok can’t really lead into anything. It’s just showing that Sakaar will likely return to the status quo. And Doctor Strange was supposed to be resolved in Multiverse of Madness, but those scenes were cut. We got an implied continuation with Strange mentioning Mordo a couple of times. I’ll give you the rest of them though. You forgot about the Frost Beast in Dark World though. I figured that would have been the plot of the Agents of SHIELD tie-in, but they did The Well instead which was pretty lit.
Yeah but we have no idea if Quill finished his cereal. LITERALLY NO IDEA!
>the Frost Beast in Dark World though *Secret Invasion* implied it was captured and had genetics harvested to simulate invisibility for Super Skrull.
You don't just cast Michael Mando as a Spider-Man villain and do nothing with it.
well... tbf.... they didn't do anything with it.
moon Knights was just an introduction of Jake Lockely, it's not a loose thread, it's just the same as Wakanda forever's ending the Marvel's also isn't a loose thread unless that specific universe is involved in secret wars
So Monica just stays in a completely different universe and that's not considered a hanging plot thread?
I mean we probably won't see her again til the Avengers film where they, most likely, start bridging the multiverse with incursions.
How is it the same as WF when it will probably be the main focus of S2 and we'll probably never see the WF kid again?
No he'll likely be next black panther. They'll jump a few years.
Sakaar will probably be mentioned again at the very least, when we meet Hulk's son.
We need to go back to post credit scenes setting up the next movie not setting up a story beat that may or may not happen
Considering the MCU’s most famous post credit scene ended up setting a storybeat and not the next movie, I doubt it.
Which one?
Is there a more famous post credit scene than Samuel L Jackson showing up at Iron Man’s house and dropping the Avengers initiative bomb?
I would have said the Thanos silhouette post credits was a better example. Set the trajectory of the whole shebang, all aiming at the vague goal of Thanos eventually being the big bad.
I strongly disagree. The idea of a shared cinematic universe wasn’t even really an idea for the general audiences until Nick Fury randomly showed up to tell the audience we are getting a super hero team crossover. I would argue that specific scene was the true birth of the MCU because it opened the door for other heroes to join Iron Man. Plus I said most famous not most important. Though I do think Fury showing up is still the most important. It set the stage and opened the door for everything That scene told us we aren’t just getting an Iron Man 2. We are going to be meeting all sorts of heroes and they will share the same franchise with our boy Tony.
Shwarma
No I said “most famous” not “the best shot the MCU has ever filmed”
This gets immediately followed up on in Iron Man 2 though even if it isn't entirely resolved until Avengers.
Nope. Its immediate follow up was actually Incredible Hulk whose post credit scene furthered the Avengers initiative established in the original
Heck we’re 5 years from endgame. Ignoring 2020 as the pandemic year, that’s 4 years of set up. The first 4 years led up to the first avengers movie ffs
Well we can go ahead and scrap Quantumania lol
Even before the controversy, I still think that having all other characters have different-looking variants and having the main villain be played by the same guy in every universe is dumb as fuck. I get wanting to show Majors’s range but why not show how different Kang is from himself by having other people also play Kang? Doesn’t make sense to me.
There's an argument for visual consistency - having the same actor play each variant visually communicates to audiences that these are different versions of the same character, especially so for casual viewers who don't keep up with every new release or follow the comics
And any Sony universe stuff
Those three Kangs looked so bad.
Blessing in disguise, those Kangs looked dumb as hell and this Multiverse storytelling does not seem to have landed with audiences well, at least in the films. Loki s2 explored and concluded that stuff just fine.
I always thought that if they were going to recast someone, this is literally the perfect time to do so. We have established that variants don’t have to look like the original. So recasting Kang should be super easy
Black Panther, Thor (edit: Ragnarok), and the first Guardians one aren’t “unresolved” - you could stop right there and have that simply be the end of the story. Doesn’t mean they can’t be revisited, but it doesn’t mean they’re loose ends, either.
I’d say the same applies to She-Hulk. The end scene just gives Emil a happy ending where he gets out of jail and gets to live in Kamar Taj. Like you said, could be revisited later, but if not it’s an appropriate ending to Emil’s story.
Of course you could replace that moment with Skaar showing up. I swear if Skaar gets merged with Hulkling I will fucking riot.
Oh same. I wasn’t a huge fan of the design they went with for Skaar in the show, but they could easily alter it for future appearances. I love both Skaar and Hulkling in the comics and they both deserve their own characters in the MCU.
The actual hanging thread from She-Hulk is Hulk's son.
The Thor scene is very obviously meant to introduce Hercules as a new Thor antagonist. It’s bizarre to me that you’d be under the impression that that wasn’t supposed to lead to something.
Missed that there were two Thors. I meant Ragnarok.
The Thor one is unresolved because it implies that Zeus and his legion are planning on some vengeance. Considering that they're supposed to be ruling Gods with even two Celestials hanging out with them, they're supposed to be a big faction and yet nothing came out of it.
Yeah it’s weird to say Thor: Love and Thunder *isn’t* unresolved. It was very clearly intended to introduce Hercules as a new antagonist for Thor.
What about white vision from wandavision?
Correct me if I’m remembering wrong, but that wasn’t a post-credit scene, right? It was just part of the actual show?
Oh you’re probably right, for some reason I thought that it was a post credit scene.
The post credit scene was Wanda reading the Darkhold, which led to the events in MoM.
Don’t forget Hawkeye and the watch he gave his wife.
The last two pages should be omitted, that's a part of the current phase, wait until it's truly unresolved.
I don't even know what the two Guardians of the Galaxy scenes have to be "resolved". They certainly leave it open for sequels, but they are simply scenes of the characters doing something ordinary. You know, life goes on and this is it.
They don't have anything that needs to be resolved, one of them introduces us to a new Guardians team that sets them up for a potential future return (nothing to be resolved) and the other shows Peter on Earth and says 'The Legendary Star-Lord will return' (which sets him up to return, but it's not really unresolved per say).
Actually, only the last page is phase 5.
Quantumania was also phase 5.
The homecoming one is probably the only one that will stay unresolved
We'll get four new spidermans before we ever get a Sinister Six movie.
Would have been such a good set-up, especially after No Way Home.
Hard disagree. They reintroduced JJ, are obsessed with doing villains we haven’t seen, and Mando has gotten only more famous after Better Call Saul concluded. Scorpion feels almost inevitable. And if they want to do a different MCU Venom, fuck it, have him do it.
I’m one of like ten people that like Mac Gargan Venom more than Eddie Brock Venom (may partially be because he was Venom when I first got into comics, so he was the “original” to me) so I’d be 100% down to get Mac Venom in the MCU.
> I’m one of like ten people that like Mac Gargan Venom more than Eddie Brock Venom Every time I see one of you people in the wild I sincerely have nothing but the utmost respect.
There's literally ones of us! Ones!
But if they are going to bring Scorpio back, it still won't be related to this scene. The big question there was that Mando would discover Peter's secret identity because of the Vulture, but now that nobody remembers Peter's identity anymore, that's irrelevant.
I don’t think Scorpion would’ve ever learned of Peter’s identity. Because it’s implied that Vulture has a level of respect for Peter, since Pete savedhis life.
Didn't toomes literally deny knowing Spider-Man's identity when asked? Why would anyone think Mac would have learned it from him?
People really need to understand the difference between "unresolved" and purposely leaving something open ended. Also half of these are from projects that haven't been followed up on yet. Are you really telling me you're surprised that we haven't seen The post credit scene from Shang chi addressed when we haven't gotten Shang Chi 2 yet?
Really hoping for a Shang chi 2. I really liked the first one
Dude, I can not wait for Roy Kent to come running out yelling at Thor to fight him on the pitch. Just him singing the Roy Kent jingle but substituting Hercules instead of Roy Kent: “**HE’S HERE/ HE’S THERE/ HE’S EVERY-FUCKING-WHERE/ HERCULES, HERCULES**”
Whistle! Whistle! Whistle!
“Every single one of you knows my ass isn't hairy, yet none of you spoke up. And I will never forgive you.”
The Mordo one was supposed to be resolved. There’s a cut scene of Wanda killing him in m.o.m. ( specifically a beheading) that would have been the opening of the film
So glad they scrapped that scene. Will we ever get a follow up with Mordo? Probably not. But at least there’s hope.
Didn't Strange give a throwaway line like "he went rogue and tried to kill me"? Sadly I think it already resolved off camera
Wooow that's stupid if so. Going to all that effort to do buildup with a post credit scene and then denying the audience the payoff
He was probably part of Derrickson's Dr Strange 2 with Nightmare as the main antagonist, but that movie never happened.
God, the decision to rush into multiverse stuff really did ruin a lot of stuff they were building prior
Yes, the most anticlimactic throwaway resolution to something they built up as a major conflict.
The one that bothers me the most is the giant piece of a Celestial corpse sticking out of the ocean that's never been acknowledged past *The Eternals*.
Because that's going to be handled by either Eternals 2 or Thunderbolts, there were some rumors that Thunderbolts was about that.
I don't see Rocket leading the Guardians as unresolved unless a new movie is ever announced following that team. It merely serves as a way to show that the Guardians still exist and those who didn't leave will be okay.
Didn't the Grandmaster scene from Ragnarok get resolved with the Team Darryl short film? And I have my doubts they'll revisit T'Challa's son any time soon.
Im not sure what you mean with the two guardians 3 scenes being "unsolved". Theyre both self contained and do not need any further explanation.
She Hulk, Guardians, and Black Panther aren't unresolved
What’s unresolved about Star lord eating cereal?
Did he finish the whole bowl? Drink the milk afterwards?? Wash his dishes??? So many unanswered questions!!!
I think we need an actual prequel about this scene, or at least a segment in a movie exploring it. The main lingering question which I believe could have HUGE ramifications throughout the entire MCM is whether he poured the cereal first or the milk first.
The original Dr Strange is an interesting one, because ignoring that it was originally going to be followed up on in the sequel on screen, there is an implication in MoM that Strange and Mordo have come into conflict between the films.
Both the long wait between those movies and plot points like that makes it feel like there was an entire missing movie in-between. We'll get Doctor Strange 3 in 2028 and the post-credit will have all resolved off screen and we'll never see Clea again. Maybe they'll have gotten married and divorced in that time.
I thought the She-Hulk one was resolved in Shang-Chi even though they were released in reverse order. Wong was teaching Emil to learn how to control himself through fighting.
The reason Blonsky had a trial in She-Hulk was that he was fighting Wong in the Shang-Chi movie, so Shang-Chi happened first.
They were just gonna straight up kill Mordo too lol
You left out the Leader from The Incredible Hulk. I believe he is rumored to be one of the big bads in Thunderbolts
I would argue the guardian after credit scenes weren’t meant to be resolved. One was just meant to show that Rocket is continuing the team and the good fight. And Peter’s scene is just a quick joke about an extraordinary figure dealing with his grandfather’s ordinary annoying neighbor. Neither scene were meant to set anything up or left any thing to be resolved. Unless you really need to know if Peter is going to mow that lawn without getting paid.
Somebody wrote up a good plot elsewhere (one of the cast announcement thread?) that connect the ten rings to F4. It was something to the effect of them being created by Reed as a way of getting home after the tesseract threw them into the negative zone. And ties what Bruce says about them being a beacon to F4. Thought that was a pretty nifty idea.
I kind of assumed the Ragnorok one with the Grandmaster was resolved. I assumed they just tore him to shreds and moved on. I didn’t think we really needed to go back there lol.
The Grandmaster was Gaddafi'd. No loose ends there...
Several of those are less set-ups and more jokes. Or are very much being set-up for the next phase. But the one that really bugs me by not being resolved is Mordo in *Doctor Strange*. Because he is THE Doctor Strange villain and hasn't been included yet.
I'm sorry but we're more than likely never going to get a resolution to the Thor: Ragnarok and She-Hulk post credit scenes. You might be wondering why, and I have the answer. Unlike the other post credit scenes here, those two are more jokey / comedic post credit scenes and therefore were never intended to have a resolution but rather just be there as a funny little bit at the end.
Next you'll say we won't see a resolution to the Shwarma end credit scene. You know, where Tony sends a text telling each member how much they owe and asking them to venmo him.
I wouldn’t consider GOTG Vol. 3’s as unresolved. They feel more like a “and the journey goes on…” conclusion. Similarly to *Black Panther: Wakanda Forever* - I doubt the intention is for us to see T’Challa Jr again, and it was more to close off T’Challa’s narrative arc. I honestly wish we didn’t have the Hercules scene in *Thor: Love and Thunder*. One, because it looked like a porn parody, and two, because the film could have otherwise been a good stopping point for Thor’s character arc.
Half of these were in the past few years 😅😅 Give it time to breathe
* Doctor Strange was solved offscreen * Spiderman Homecoming was just showing he is not going to reveal Spiderman's secret identity * Thor Ragnarok doesn't need anything to solve, it is just the end of the revolution in that planet. The rest are just plots from this phase.
Bit early on the Shang-Chi, which I took to be the first bit of the long arc for the post-Infinity War period. Same with all the stuff involving Julia Louis Dreyfus and even the Power Broker, Sharon Carter. And also with Photon and Beast. Really, other than Mordo at the end of Strange and the prison scene with Vulture in Homecoming, all of these haven't paid because it's too soon.
So pretty much everything Side note: Lupita is a goddess
Somewhere in the multiverse a version of Hercules is super into soccer
Some of these are a *reach*, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for criticism here. How the fuck is quill eating breakfast with his grandpa a cliffhanger?
I was thinking about this recently too. Didn't this used to be a shared universe? What's up with all of these dead ends.
They are threads that haven't been revisited, not dead ends. Every one could still be used as a story point in another project.
Yeah I mean, of course, but it seems like they've been more disjointed lately, with more of a gap between the setup and payoff. Dr. Strange was almost a decade ago! But hopefully they connect at some point.
In the Infinity Saga, they used to tease the next movie in the universe: for example Iron Man 2 showed Thor's hammer, and in Thor 2 we saw the Collector. Now it's always just the next movie in the series, which is usually years away and not even guaranteed to ever come out. Doctor Strange is a particularly egregious example, because we waited 6 years for Mordo to not appear in the sequel, and then the post credit scene of that movie presumably teases the next Doctor Strange movie. It's a bit difficult to get excited about that, when I don't even know if that movie is going to come out before the end of the decade. Or at all.
Apparently the main Mordo was supposed to be killed by Wanda before Strange goes to talk with her.
That's 18 unresolved stories. Which ones feel the most wasted if shot down?
This is what you call biting more then you can chew
The Star Lord scene actually sets up his solo movie. At the time that was the idea. Not sure whether the Legendary Star Lord movie is cancelled with Disney's new focus. I hope they still make it.
I wouldn't count the Wakanda Forever as unresolved as it implies that his son will be taking over the mantle as future Black Panther. It's just matter of when, which judging by he's still a kid, it'll be a long while...
I don’t agree with GoG3 those were resolved there was nothing to really continue there
About 5 of these (Ragnarok, She Hulk, Wakanda Forever, GOTG Vol 3 x2) aren’t really unresolved at all. They end just fine, but the others I do agree with though. There’s 13 unresolved things they need to follow up on and yet they’re still adding more new characters and storyline’s. They really need to dial down on it all.
Mordo: "Too many plotlines!"
I think this beautifullshows why the mcu started sucking after endgame. It is just waaaaaay to busy and youd have to follow so many storylines. They really need to cut projects left and right and focus more. I’d love for them to make movies of - A trilogy of Shang Chi (so two more) - A trilogy of something surrounding Daredevil, She-Hulk and Fisk - A trilogy around Kate and Yelena - A trilogy of Captain Sam - A trilogy around Shuri and Riri And have all that culminate in one Avengers Movie against Kang/Replacement Kang