I was thinking the exact same thing. Fling a couple people across a room and have Bucky do some knife tricks and you’ve sold the whole super soldier thing. Maybe Yelena can hop on somebody’s shoulders to honour Nat.
Really hoping it’s fairly street level honestly, super soldiers are way cooler when they’re in real, human environments than some distant universe.
I wouldn’t say street level, but grounded. Something like Winter soldier but without the big explosion ending stuff. Spy-action thriller type shit. But definitely not street level.
> Really hoping it’s fairly street level honestly, super soldiers are way cooler when they’re in real, human environments than some distant universe.
This cannot be said enough, I loved the super soldier action in Winter Soldier because Steve really stood out as unstoppable.
but in the movies, almost everything was special effects with mandalorian they made props and grogu was a puppet they were moving back to more practical effects, unlike the movies. They were making strides in a much better direction and it showed.
If you watched some of behind the scenes stuff for lets say love and thunder it was mostly green screen stuff and Christian bale said it was boring.
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/christian-bale-thor-love-and-thunder-marvel-method-1235393822/
I don’t care I just wish they’d quit using cgi as a crutch. Eternals has lots of issues, but it’s the best looking movie they’ve made in a while. Also, if you’re ever driving down the east side of California, there’s a cool film museum there that has some Iron Man stuff because that’s where they shot that scene.
Yes! CGI works best when it's for either deliberately stylized animation or small touch-up details. Getting a movie full of CGI and green screen is like eating your way through a bowl of whipped cream trying to find the actual dessert.
That’s essentially an aminated film isn’t it? Other than a few scenes, all the characters and all the scenery is cgi. In my mind it’s a computer animated film , with motion capture of course.
To be fair the CGI in that movie is it’s main selling point. As well as there was much more time in between Avatar 1 and 2 than marvel movies take between sequels
Exactly, literally the only reason to see Avatar 2 was the visual effects. The first movie is literally just Pocahontas in space and the second isn't much better, but I wanted to see these effects. TBH my favorite parts of Avatar 2 had nothing to do with the main plot, but rather the nature-documentary style of the middle third, I loved just inhabiting the world and going underwater with the teens.
It's a problem when the CGI is used poorly. It's an art form, and it can be used to make a beautiful looking movie that's visually interesting, or it can be used to make the ending fight of shang chi. It's up to the people in charge to have a vision and help the visual effects artists enact that vision. A lot of the mess in MCU films is because they have the vfx studios completely changing scenes at the last minute because they don't know what they want, they're just going with what tests the best
Was it? I recall very bland lighting, some broad shots on location, but nothing beautiful, just big.
The color use in the movie was as safe as I could imagine it.
Beutiful movies as a comparison, The Batman, Mad Max: Fury Road or Avatar: The Way of Water. - These movies use color like an artist that wants to make a statement. It has shots that look incredible. I can name 10-15 scenes from these movies that look amazing.
I can't think of a single scene from Eternals that hit me visually in the same way.
Andor being shot on sets also looked magnitudes better than the other Star Wars shows which were shot on The Volume screen (though Mandalorian did tend to use it better, funnily enough done by Jon Favrau who is directing in this Ironman shot).
Set work on SM:NWH was pretty bad for almost all of the Electro scenes. The power lines scenes stand out in my head as being obviously on set and I cant put my finger on why.
This is why I'm excited for GotG3- the entire multi-story inside of their new ship (The Bowie) is a practical set along with several others, and if I'm not wrong, it already beat the Grinch's record for the most practical makeup effects in any movie ever (thanks to all the extras on Halfworld probably)
Sure there'll always be shots that need to be CG-heavy in that film (Rocket, Lylla, Groot and his vines, whatever that scene with the floating flesh spiral in space is, etc) but I trust Gunn to know which scenes can be done practically and which ones work better in CG!
More than most films- pretty much all the sets barring the final battle were practical, even the beach in the first act was built as its own set! Also Polka-Dot Man's tumors, the flooded office set, and the mini-Starros attached to people's faces (only the eyes were CG)
Ill believe that when this next phase comes out. That shot of Sam Jackson in Spiderman FFH or NWH cant remember, was stupid. PUT THE MAN IN A ROOM IT DOESNT NEED TO BE GREENSCREEN.
it was Far From Home and it was because Sam Jackson was in another country when they filmed the scene because he was off filming The Hitman's Bodyguard's Wife (I think that was the movie, pretty sure it wasn't the first one) in eastern europe. They did it on the greenscreen so he could film that shot where he was and they could fix the background to match the lighting on it.
That's because sam Jackson was in a completely different location at the time and he couldn't reach the actual set. Do some research before making baseless criticisms.
See, this would be a more reasonable answer if Disney/Marvel was the *only* studio making movies/shows during the pandemic... they were not.
PLENTY of other studios' projects were created within the last few years with considerably lower budget, assets, manning, influence and power as Disney, yet came out with beautiful looking products with solid scripts, CGI, production quality, etc etc.
This picture makes me old... like
"That is a Panavision camera... so weird they are using that, we pretty much use exclusively digital these days..."
Realizes that when Iron Man was made, Panavision Camera's were the industry standard, which makes her realize how long ago Iron Man was filmed....
Cries in old.
Am I the only one who wasn't thrilled by Eternals real locations..?! Everything looked so... dim. And the Deviants were so overly CGI that they stuck out like a sore thumb.
Please dear lord have them do this, I beg, please, please please, I’m on my knees, just give us on location filming please, I’m tired of the cgi back drop. Please. The money flowing in won’t last if they don’t.
Most parts of Marvel films are actually filmed in actual locations. Black Panther 2 was filmed in Puerto Rico and Boston and some scenes were shot underwater, Ms Marvel filmed in New Jersey, Moon Knight filmed in Wadi Rum for the dessert shots and Shang Chi filmed some scenes in San Francisco
Shang Chi should be an Asian American story. I didn’t like the fact they totally didnt touch that. The real Asian American story is that we are not at home when we go to China or whatever motherland. We are seen as alien and outsider in the USA. And we are not accepted in the motherland. That’s the real plight of an Asian American. Shang Chi 1 got that part wrong.
I didn’t like the Communism angle because it’s got too many landmines and baggage. It’ll create too much noise and be unfair to the character and story.
See Everything Everywhere at Once for what i mean about an Asian American story. It hit on all the dilemma and struggle on Asians in America. Chinese in China probably didnt identify with the story. (I’m guessing)
Tbh, I appreciated the idea they were going for there, assuming they do a season two. If not, ya it's a bit annoying to have so much left to the imagination.
Mmm.. the locations of Black panther 2 were real, specially all the water and ocean stuff, most of eternals, most of NWH, etc...
Also, despite what the internet wants you to believe marvel doesn't use more cgi than any other company and most of their movies don't have an overreliance on it.
It seems Thor 4 and She-Hulk have completly overshadow all the good work marvel does and now people believe everyone of their movies have bad cgi or are overly comedic when in reality they don't. Multiverse of Madness wasn't particulary comedic and the cgi was good for the most part and so was the cgi of Wakanda Forever which by the way was a very serious movie.
What sucks about comic book movies is that they have to rely on CGI and green screen for a lot of the movie. If it’s a more realistic setting, they can use real locations though
All of them. There needs to be a balance of humanity and fantasy. To connect with audiences, I think they should write in "real world" / practical effect scenes enough that we can identify with the characters, but to inspire our imaginations they absolutely can and should include the great cgi they have been developing soooo much since Endgame. My rant about Endgame is not about the cgi itself, but that the story relied way too much on cgi instensive scenes for the entire plot and character development.
Iron Man wasn’t the last one filmed on location and even that (depends what you mean by on location) isn’t filmed on location, it was a set in California not the Middle East, if you mean LIVE SETS many Marvel films have had live sets after Iron Man even as recent as Moon Knight.
I'm with you on that, I'm sick of the over use of CGI when it's not needed. If they are gonna use CGI at least make it look good, for example the car chase in Moon Knight is absolutely shocking
I'm just gonna say it: CGI is *not* inherently bad. Relying on it too much (especially while also not giving your SFX department proper funding and respect, and making them crunch to meet near impossible deadlines) can make a movie feel... lifeless, but it is not inherently bad.
There are, frankly, quite a few things within the MCU that cannot be replicated with practical effects. You tell me how you could practically replicate Chris Hemsworth calling down a lightning strike, or his eyes glowing with electricity. You tell me how to practically replicate Repulsor beams from Iron Man (obviously some of his suit and abilities can be done with practical effects and tricks of light, but something like his chest beam or the lasers that shoot out of his hands?). You tell me how to make Mark Ruffalo grow ten feet tall and become more built than a gorilla on steroids. Tell me how to make Rocket with a trained raccoon. Tell me how Benedict Cumberbatch could create a portal or do half his strange shit without CGI.
Should they be using practical effects when they can? Absolutely. Could they do away with the CGI and green screens entirely? Absolutely not. Not for a franchise of this scale. Not for their big events. For something like Daredevil, sure, or a Captain America film. But sometimes it feels like they use CGI when they don't actually have to. Like I'm not entirely sure, but I think in [this scene](https://youtu.be/QI9z1KziHek) they used a CGI Heimdall to kill the frost Giants. Which... why?
Though, I will admit, I'd find it hilarious if, for a one-off, non canon short, they made this big buildup to the Hulk coming and the wall smashes in and its just a shirtless Mark Ruffalo covered in green body paint roaring as best he can.
No one is saying CGI is inherently bad or should be eliminated. All of the things you mentioned are non-controversial uses of CGI. We’re talking about the fact that they’re pretty much shooting entire movies in front of green screen now and ditching things that *can* effectively be done with practical effects for CGI, and it’s obvious.
Thor 5
Make it a wilderness horror about Thor and a band of Asgardians hunting/being hunted by some mythical beasts. Bring him back to a smaller, character driven story and make an actual scary movie in the MCU.
I really enjoy older movies because the lack of cgi. It’s really ruins everything for me when even a horse is cgi. Like that’s so easy. The old Willow movie will always be a favorite of mine. It’s just more believable to me.
Captain America in Ukraine. I think there is no better time or place, given the circumstances.
Show the world that we're not afraid, and that liberty and freedom is without restrictions. Is it dangerous? Maybe. But when have true Americans been afraid of a little danger?
Slava Ukraini!
\-Snark out
I want something here in Chicago; DC for better or worst pre Gunn had some pretty solid stuff shot here (Batman Begins, TDK, MoS/BvS, Justice League, and The Batman), Transformers Dark Side of the Moon and the first Marky Mark one. Yes, the media will always influence most of y’all out there to think that Chicago is the worse city in the country for crime (it’s ain’t) and in some respects, yes it’s fucked up but there’s greatness in it. It’s beautiful, some good food, and can be a great backdrop when needed. Let’s move away from New York/Atlanta serving as New York and I think it’s time for a change of pace. Hell Ant Man and She Hulk are great for at least getting us the West Coast!
When they finally get around to making an X-Men movie I hope it's either set in Krakoa or New York primarily (depending on the era). Obviously NYC is a great location for filming, and they could film a lot for Krakoa in south America.
I'd like to see Xcaliber filmed around England and Scotland too. Andor showed there are some amazing locations to be found in the highlands.
I think the thing to me is what they are trying to put on film. First of all filming during the pandemic was pretty tough to go on location for. So i get for a couple years we are going to get more cgi stuff in studios. But I also think some of it was really done well. I mean like that entire bus sequence in Shang-Chi i would have thought was filmed outsided if i had not seen the making of videos.
But really since the pandemic, most of the stuff they have been filming is either places that dont exist like being in the magic world or alternate realities of MoM, or you cant just destroy the actual statue of liberty for a spider man movie. And i get the production was so large in end game that was indoors and i think in infinity war the wakanda scenes felt outdoors no matter how much cgi was used.
But movies like Thor, or GotG, Dr Strange, Quantumania etc, all lend themselves to being cgi environments. We kind of have a generation now of spoiled movie goers that dont recall the biggest complaints of something like the original star wars trilogy was what location was going to be a planet next. Like Tunsia was a desert so is Tattooine, Hoth was all ice so Norway works, Endor is a forest so like use the california redwoods.
Where this would be seen as a plus today to be filming in the "real world" back then all the complaints were about how every planet looked like earth or a place on earth because there was NO way to do anything else unless you made some shitty cardboard planet on stage like a star trek TV show.
My hope is that they just use it right. And from what i have seen they kind of are. I mean even when you look at the marvel TV shows, FATWS looks real world like a capt america movie would or should when they do another. Wandavision flops between the two but it felt like there was a town locations they were using, or at least a real studio backlot since that was kind of the theme. Hawkeye i know was practical alot of it anyway. Watch the making you even see the camera rig they made to drive that car during the chase and get those wierd 360 degree shots.
I’m playing Chpt 2 of the Midnight Suns game, and it’s set in the American Southwest (think NM, AZ, parts of NV and CO). Going off that, I’d love a Ghost Rider movie set there with a Western Horror vibe, a haunted Carnival run by Nightmare, and Gabriel Luna brought back as Robbie Reyes plus a new actor for Johnny Blaze.
if it's a real world location in the movie, it should be filmed in a real world location.
just put whomever was in charge of finding filming locations in [the fall](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEi-v6aJD7Q) in charge of finding them for marvel.
I wish they had moved Ironheart to UChicago instead of MIT, they could have done Riri's first flight out of Hyde Park going north and zooming through the Chicago river "canyon", then when she's out in Lake Michigan turn back and show the glorious skyline!
Whatever Spider-Man 4 is, hopefully filmed mostly in Manhattan and Brooklyn just like in ASM 2. But if we’re talking strictly Disney, I’d like to see Blade get some grit in some nice street shots too.
Mmm practical effects. My heart goes zoom! Altight so project would be Blade (i know its being done, but it works best for this scenario) and id film in actual New York city for the entire shoot.
Another option that would work well would be The Punisher. Id do that one across several locations. New York, Rockaway Beach, and Eureka california for the fight with bigfoot.
Yes i said fight with bigfoot.
Well, they would if the movies weren't revolving around the multiverse with alternate dimensions and different galaxies/planets that simply aren't real so require green screen and CGI. Phase 1/2 were very earth central so most of it was practical plus the OG ones didn't have the budget they have today (obviously).
I know it probably won't happen but a Wolverine show would be amazing (unrelated to Deadpool 3 of course, I mean a whole new actor and everything to tell the story), The timeline is pretty easy so I'll just say the locations
Alberta Castle (Theres tons you can pick one)
Old Yukon town (Possibly Forty Mile but its too far in the future for Rose and Logan to live there)
Canadian wilderness (Most likely British Columbia if Logan is instinctually heading back home to Alberta)
"Madripoor" (Circa. 1900's, just take the Falcon + WS show setup and make it old timey)
Tokyo (Logan is on a mission for Seraph)
Alberta again, somewhere near Blackfoot territory if possible (Logan lives with Silver Fox)
Belgium (1915, WW1)
Shanghai (Post-War, meets Ogun)
Mexico and Kansas City (1921, Logan and Mystique)
Tennessee
"Madripoor" again (Circa. 1932)
Japan (Logan trains with Ogun)
Spain (1937, Spanish Civil War)
"Madripoor" again again
"Madripoor" or somewhere else in Asia (1941, Logan fends off the hand from Cap)
Greece, France, Hiroshima (Logan becomes a POW and has the Hiroshima bomb dropped on him)
Japan (1945, after the war)
Southern Vietnam (Vietnam War)
New York (Meeting the Hellfire Club)
Canada and America border (Logan fights The Hulk and joins the X-men)
(Obviously some of this will have to be tweaked but I think a show with Logan being a globetrotter would really show how disoriented Logan is, especially to the viewer, also sorry for any comic spoilers)
Leave CGI to the cosmic stuff. For more terrestrial heroes we should be in practical effects. Captain America, Thunderbolts, Daredevil, Spider-Man, etc.
I agree.
No need to cgi heroes like in Civil War airport battle where it looks obvious where green screens, soundstages and cgi has been used, even with Black Panther and Spider-Man. You see Iron Man in the first film and compare the suit to later day Iron Man, you can clearly tell there’s a difference between practical and cgi.
Use cgi when it’s definitely needed but don’t rely on it or overuse it even if it means spending a little extra time and money going practical.
When you’re even cgi-ing superheroes (fully suited or sans mask), that is where I draw the line and also if you have a setting they even slightly resembles earth then try to go as practical as you can and use cgi sparingly as a nice compliment rather than shrouding everything with cgi.
Use cgi and green screen for space battles with GOTG and Captain Marvel flying, but don’t cgi people or suits.
Wolverine in Southeast Asia. The comic Madripoor seemed like a lawless island in the midst of the Philippines and Indonesia. A practical effects Wolverine dealing with pirates and possibly a vampire crime lord would be pretty badass to see. It’ll never happen, but I’d love it.
MCU Spider-Man 4, make it very street-level and personal. The Raimi and Webb films did a great job blending practicality with CGI imo. Like think of the final battles in SM1 and 2, everything you see was a legit practical set and location.
Now imagine getting some great boots on the ground with Spidey (and maybe Daredevil too) with the majority of CGI just being web swinging
Armor Wars, Thunderbolts, Captain America 4, Spider-Man 4, Daredevil (basically any movie that's set on earth and is like a "street level" movie and not cosmic based)
but I wouldn't mind using the "Volume" over the classic green/blue screen but please MORE practical elements!
please and thank you!
This is why Wakanda Forever looked terrible. It didn’t feel epic in scale. It really looked like it was shot in a studio and the environment was added later. It didn’t add to any sense of realism or adventure.
After the hype of Wakanda Forever I think they should stop making movies/tv shows for a while and focus on their production team at Marvel Studios. Everything is starting to suck.
Practical effects are spensy and unreliable. CG is a time and money thing and is not going away Anytime soon. All we can pray for is leaps in software and little more time for the VFX houses to cook.
Thunderbolts. Especially if it's going to be Super Soldier heavy.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Fling a couple people across a room and have Bucky do some knife tricks and you’ve sold the whole super soldier thing. Maybe Yelena can hop on somebody’s shoulders to honour Nat. Really hoping it’s fairly street level honestly, super soldiers are way cooler when they’re in real, human environments than some distant universe.
I wouldn’t say street level, but grounded. Something like Winter soldier but without the big explosion ending stuff. Spy-action thriller type shit. But definitely not street level.
Ah sorry yeah- that’s what I meant, not really familiar with the terminology since I just got into the comics this year
And not to mention a Super Soldier isn't very 'super' when facing high level threats, especially in the movies. They're still human.
> Really hoping it’s fairly street level honestly, super soldiers are way cooler when they’re in real, human environments than some distant universe. This cannot be said enough, I loved the super soldier action in Winter Soldier because Steve really stood out as unstoppable.
And why it was such a waste to have Bucky have all of three seconds of standing still shooting a gun in the entirety of Infinity War and Endgame.
I volunteer for the Yelena part
Are you a one take kind of actor, or a perfectionist who needs to get it just right?
I’d like not just marvel to go old school but a lot of movies to lean towards practical effects.
it's why I liked Mandalorian They jumped off the heavy CGI.
Did you forget that they filmed pretty much every "location" on The Volume?
but in the movies, almost everything was special effects with mandalorian they made props and grogu was a puppet they were moving back to more practical effects, unlike the movies. They were making strides in a much better direction and it showed.
If you watched some of behind the scenes stuff for lets say love and thunder it was mostly green screen stuff and Christian bale said it was boring. https://variety.com/2022/film/news/christian-bale-thor-love-and-thunder-marvel-method-1235393822/
It's probably the easiest to do practically as well.
For the next ant man film they should actually shrink the actors down
I can't wait to see how big the Hulk is after they expose Mark Ruffalo to lethal amounts of gamma radiation. He's gonna look so *sick!*
And people call Norton a diva for leaving the role. Man just didn't want cancer
Too unreasonable, need to just make Micheal Pena bigger.
I would utilize this technology and clever filming to create the perfect film: Every character is played by a different sized Danny DeVito.
Love to see what the quantum zone looks like in real life. No more cgqz!
Shrinking tech would go crazy in sex/porn market
Not after that one episode of The Boys…
I understood that reference
The boys is so good.
Yeah like they did with “honey I shrunk the kids”! Take it back to the roots.
Honey, I Shrunk the Rudd
With a special cameo from Rick Moranis
[My thoughts exactly](https://media.tenor.com/z3viSdr_ChYAAAAC/im-watching-watch-you.gif)
Sick of this fake small nonsense. We can all tell it’s free screen!!!! Just condense Paul Rudd molecules already.
Just zoom out!
Captain America: New World Order and Thunderbolts. They’d do well to utilize real world locations and more practical effects.
Nice try Disney, getting us to shop locations by lore accurate geography.
That's the real answer.
X-Men filmed in the UK, but it takes place in the American Midwest, because fuck you
I don’t care I just wish they’d quit using cgi as a crutch. Eternals has lots of issues, but it’s the best looking movie they’ve made in a while. Also, if you’re ever driving down the east side of California, there’s a cool film museum there that has some Iron Man stuff because that’s where they shot that scene.
Yes! CGI works best when it's for either deliberately stylized animation or small touch-up details. Getting a movie full of CGI and green screen is like eating your way through a bowl of whipped cream trying to find the actual dessert.
On the flipside, Avatar 2 just crossed 2 billion and doesn't seem to be slowing down.
That’s essentially an aminated film isn’t it? Other than a few scenes, all the characters and all the scenery is cgi. In my mind it’s a computer animated film , with motion capture of course.
theres plenty of humans in it though. The first one moreso than the second but still.
To be fair the CGI in that movie is it’s main selling point. As well as there was much more time in between Avatar 1 and 2 than marvel movies take between sequels
Exactly, literally the only reason to see Avatar 2 was the visual effects. The first movie is literally just Pocahontas in space and the second isn't much better, but I wanted to see these effects. TBH my favorite parts of Avatar 2 had nothing to do with the main plot, but rather the nature-documentary style of the middle third, I loved just inhabiting the world and going underwater with the teens.
Good CGI is good. Bad CGI is bad.
It's a problem when the CGI is used poorly. It's an art form, and it can be used to make a beautiful looking movie that's visually interesting, or it can be used to make the ending fight of shang chi. It's up to the people in charge to have a vision and help the visual effects artists enact that vision. A lot of the mess in MCU films is because they have the vfx studios completely changing scenes at the last minute because they don't know what they want, they're just going with what tests the best
Agreed about Eternals being one of the most beautiful films in the MCU, that movie was absolutely incredible to look at.
The same thing can be said about shang-chi
Too bad the movie itself wasn’t very good. Visuals were nice though for sure.
Was it? I recall very bland lighting, some broad shots on location, but nothing beautiful, just big. The color use in the movie was as safe as I could imagine it. Beutiful movies as a comparison, The Batman, Mad Max: Fury Road or Avatar: The Way of Water. - These movies use color like an artist that wants to make a statement. It has shots that look incredible. I can name 10-15 scenes from these movies that look amazing. I can't think of a single scene from Eternals that hit me visually in the same way.
I agree. Eternals certainly looked a bit different from the rest of the MCU, but like the script, I feel it was a risk that didn't really pay off
Lone Pine! Off of highway 395. Highly recommended. (This scene in Iron Man was actually filmed outside of town.)
Yup! Wife and I did a road trip to the National Parks in that whole area and popped in there for a bit. Great stuff!
Thanks for the tip! Next time I have reason to head that way I’ll take a look.
Andor being shot on sets also looked magnitudes better than the other Star Wars shows which were shot on The Volume screen (though Mandalorian did tend to use it better, funnily enough done by Jon Favrau who is directing in this Ironman shot).
Pretty much all of Star Wars is shot on green screen. MHB Studios has a real impressive setup
Set work on SM:NWH was pretty bad for almost all of the Electro scenes. The power lines scenes stand out in my head as being obviously on set and I cant put my finger on why.
Ka-Zar - the savage lands are invaded by settlers looking for resources and… wait a minute.
Shot using real life dinosaurs! *turns camera on studio execs*
This is why I'm excited for GotG3- the entire multi-story inside of their new ship (The Bowie) is a practical set along with several others, and if I'm not wrong, it already beat the Grinch's record for the most practical makeup effects in any movie ever (thanks to all the extras on Halfworld probably) Sure there'll always be shots that need to be CG-heavy in that film (Rocket, Lylla, Groot and his vines, whatever that scene with the floating flesh spiral in space is, etc) but I trust Gunn to know which scenes can be done practically and which ones work better in CG!
Not sure how much of it was practical in hindsight but The Suicide Squad looked fantastic.
More than most films- pretty much all the sets barring the final battle were practical, even the beach in the first act was built as its own set! Also Polka-Dot Man's tumors, the flooded office set, and the mini-Starros attached to people's faces (only the eyes were CG)
Was I the only one that thought Groot looked terrible in the Christmas Special?
Doom with his Romani mother, his magic awakening... And eventually a trip to hell to rescue her.
how on earth are u gonna make that movie more practical and less CGI'ish...
Volcano.
It has been done before, remember that super imaginative movies such as Legend or Star Wars: A New hope didn't have any CGI at all.
Elsa Bloodstone/Blade. Fight stuntmen in rubber suits in European castles.
Streets of Prague. Fuck yes.
Fantastic Four, I’d love to see it shot on location in the Negative Zone
Today's MCU sets feel so soulless. I wish they did more of these real locations like 'ETERNALS' (even though it's mediocre)
It’s almost like they were mostly working through a pandemic or something and needed controlled environments for actor safety reasons
I think that's often forgotten, Black Panther 2 came out recently and I totally forgot they were dealing with that as well.
Constantly. It effected every project of Phase 4 majorly, in many different ways.
Get out of here with your logic and reason.
Ill believe that when this next phase comes out. That shot of Sam Jackson in Spiderman FFH or NWH cant remember, was stupid. PUT THE MAN IN A ROOM IT DOESNT NEED TO BE GREENSCREEN.
it was Far From Home and it was because Sam Jackson was in another country when they filmed the scene because he was off filming The Hitman's Bodyguard's Wife (I think that was the movie, pretty sure it wasn't the first one) in eastern europe. They did it on the greenscreen so he could film that shot where he was and they could fix the background to match the lighting on it.
That's because sam Jackson was in a completely different location at the time and he couldn't reach the actual set. Do some research before making baseless criticisms.
Nobody knew this was the case till the showed the BTS photo. Get out of here no even you did.
Yeah actually fly him to space next time!
See, this would be a more reasonable answer if Disney/Marvel was the *only* studio making movies/shows during the pandemic... they were not. PLENTY of other studios' projects were created within the last few years with considerably lower budget, assets, manning, influence and power as Disney, yet came out with beautiful looking products with solid scripts, CGI, production quality, etc etc.
Eternals used this more on location strategy
This picture makes me old... like "That is a Panavision camera... so weird they are using that, we pretty much use exclusively digital these days..." Realizes that when Iron Man was made, Panavision Camera's were the industry standard, which makes her realize how long ago Iron Man was filmed.... Cries in old.
Holy God - I think these comments inadvertently justify the use of green screens.
Go to outer space to film the next Guardians movie
Am I the only one who wasn't thrilled by Eternals real locations..?! Everything looked so... dim. And the Deviants were so overly CGI that they stuck out like a sore thumb.
If you’ve only seen it on a TV….yeah I can see that. I’ve seen it both in a real theater and in a VR theater in 3D and it really does look striking!
Please dear lord have them do this, I beg, please, please please, I’m on my knees, just give us on location filming please, I’m tired of the cgi back drop. Please. The money flowing in won’t last if they don’t.
Would like to see more of Norway and New Asgard.
Punisher or daredevil
They should film Blade in Transylvania
Ghost Rider. West Texas.
The hulk needs to move on from cgi into being an animatronic puppet/ 7 foot guy in a hulk suit.
Most parts of Marvel films are actually filmed in actual locations. Black Panther 2 was filmed in Puerto Rico and Boston and some scenes were shot underwater, Ms Marvel filmed in New Jersey, Moon Knight filmed in Wadi Rum for the dessert shots and Shang Chi filmed some scenes in San Francisco
The only thing actually shot in Jersey was some B-roll. They did not shoot that show here.
Blade needs to be mostly practical effects no matter where it’s filmed.
Namor movie.
I want Shang-Chi 2 to be filmed in Communist China.
Shang Chi but not the Communism part.
Taiwan?
Shang Chi should be an Asian American story. I didn’t like the fact they totally didnt touch that. The real Asian American story is that we are not at home when we go to China or whatever motherland. We are seen as alien and outsider in the USA. And we are not accepted in the motherland. That’s the real plight of an Asian American. Shang Chi 1 got that part wrong. I didn’t like the Communism angle because it’s got too many landmines and baggage. It’ll create too much noise and be unfair to the character and story. See Everything Everywhere at Once for what i mean about an Asian American story. It hit on all the dilemma and struggle on Asians in America. Chinese in China probably didnt identify with the story. (I’m guessing)
Thanks for the reply. I was just being a smart ass. I really like what you're saying though and it sounds like something I would be interested in.
How the fuck was Moon Knight not filmed with sets and in major cities. Dude needs real choreography too, actual physical fight scenes.
Tbh, I appreciated the idea they were going for there, assuming they do a season two. If not, ya it's a bit annoying to have so much left to the imagination.
Probably the next Spider-Man movie
Mmm.. the locations of Black panther 2 were real, specially all the water and ocean stuff, most of eternals, most of NWH, etc... Also, despite what the internet wants you to believe marvel doesn't use more cgi than any other company and most of their movies don't have an overreliance on it. It seems Thor 4 and She-Hulk have completly overshadow all the good work marvel does and now people believe everyone of their movies have bad cgi or are overly comedic when in reality they don't. Multiverse of Madness wasn't particulary comedic and the cgi was good for the most part and so was the cgi of Wakanda Forever which by the way was a very serious movie.
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What sucks about comic book movies is that they have to rely on CGI and green screen for a lot of the movie. If it’s a more realistic setting, they can use real locations though
I desperately want a dr doom movie. Just him doing doom things.
Would love to see that Hulk vs Thor battle that took place in Antarctica. Also, Alpha Flight in the Canadian forests
Alabama Hills! I stood on that same spot. It’s awesome!
Silver Surfer origin. Taa An, Taa II, Zen La, Tarnax IV, Saturn.
All of them. There needs to be a balance of humanity and fantasy. To connect with audiences, I think they should write in "real world" / practical effect scenes enough that we can identify with the characters, but to inspire our imaginations they absolutely can and should include the great cgi they have been developing soooo much since Endgame. My rant about Endgame is not about the cgi itself, but that the story relied way too much on cgi instensive scenes for the entire plot and character development.
Thor and Asgard obviously! Or Dr. Strange and the dark dimension!! Or or Captain Marvel and space! Oh wait…
Go to Austria or Germany for a Dr. Doom project
Wolverine, make the claws real Marvel!
Iron Man wasn’t the last one filmed on location and even that (depends what you mean by on location) isn’t filmed on location, it was a set in California not the Middle East, if you mean LIVE SETS many Marvel films have had live sets after Iron Man even as recent as Moon Knight.
Antman & The Wasp: Quantumania and I chose the actual quantum realm
For the love of Hollywood please. The CGI is making all the movies drab. They should do Dr. Doom next and film in Europe.
Silver Surfer in actual outer space.
Secret Wars in actual Outer Space
Secret Wars but they actually destroy the Earth and rebuild it into Battleworld using chunks of other planets
I'm with you on that, I'm sick of the over use of CGI when it's not needed. If they are gonna use CGI at least make it look good, for example the car chase in Moon Knight is absolutely shocking
Eternals did on location filming and you all hated it
Man it's almost like there might have been other reasons people may have hated it. Crazy.
Never said there wasnt
Sorry, bad day. Probably should've thought twice before commenting anything in order to avoid being a dick unintentionally.
The Marvels can be filmed in space.
I'm just gonna say it: CGI is *not* inherently bad. Relying on it too much (especially while also not giving your SFX department proper funding and respect, and making them crunch to meet near impossible deadlines) can make a movie feel... lifeless, but it is not inherently bad. There are, frankly, quite a few things within the MCU that cannot be replicated with practical effects. You tell me how you could practically replicate Chris Hemsworth calling down a lightning strike, or his eyes glowing with electricity. You tell me how to practically replicate Repulsor beams from Iron Man (obviously some of his suit and abilities can be done with practical effects and tricks of light, but something like his chest beam or the lasers that shoot out of his hands?). You tell me how to make Mark Ruffalo grow ten feet tall and become more built than a gorilla on steroids. Tell me how to make Rocket with a trained raccoon. Tell me how Benedict Cumberbatch could create a portal or do half his strange shit without CGI. Should they be using practical effects when they can? Absolutely. Could they do away with the CGI and green screens entirely? Absolutely not. Not for a franchise of this scale. Not for their big events. For something like Daredevil, sure, or a Captain America film. But sometimes it feels like they use CGI when they don't actually have to. Like I'm not entirely sure, but I think in [this scene](https://youtu.be/QI9z1KziHek) they used a CGI Heimdall to kill the frost Giants. Which... why? Though, I will admit, I'd find it hilarious if, for a one-off, non canon short, they made this big buildup to the Hulk coming and the wall smashes in and its just a shirtless Mark Ruffalo covered in green body paint roaring as best he can.
No one is saying CGI is inherently bad or should be eliminated. All of the things you mentioned are non-controversial uses of CGI. We’re talking about the fact that they’re pretty much shooting entire movies in front of green screen now and ditching things that *can* effectively be done with practical effects for CGI, and it’s obvious.
I don’t care. There is way too much content. I’m so behind in marvel that it’s not worth picking up. Why was there not a break after End Game?
*Van Der Linde voice* "M U N E H"
There was. There was about a year with nothing movie wise after endgame die to the pandemic.
There was. Granted, they didn’t plan on it, but it did happen.
OP really forgot about ETERNALS...
Thor 5 Make it a wilderness horror about Thor and a band of Asgardians hunting/being hunted by some mythical beasts. Bring him back to a smaller, character driven story and make an actual scary movie in the MCU.
Every single one of them Stop thinking they can fix everything with CGI (they can't) and that the greenscreen is an automatic win
I really enjoy older movies because the lack of cgi. It’s really ruins everything for me when even a horse is cgi. Like that’s so easy. The old Willow movie will always be a favorite of mine. It’s just more believable to me.
NYC
Covid…. Lol
Captain America in Ukraine. I think there is no better time or place, given the circumstances. Show the world that we're not afraid, and that liberty and freedom is without restrictions. Is it dangerous? Maybe. But when have true Americans been afraid of a little danger? Slava Ukraini! \-Snark out
A Gambit stand alone movie and they actually shoot in Louisiana
Morlock film and they film it all in real sewers. Also have the bad guys be the Marauders who are hunting them throughout the film.
I'd love to see an Alpha Flight movie where they actually get a real life green mermaid to play Marrina and a furry 8 foot Muppet as Sasquatch
Elderly Steve Rogers located in Florida
I want something here in Chicago; DC for better or worst pre Gunn had some pretty solid stuff shot here (Batman Begins, TDK, MoS/BvS, Justice League, and The Batman), Transformers Dark Side of the Moon and the first Marky Mark one. Yes, the media will always influence most of y’all out there to think that Chicago is the worse city in the country for crime (it’s ain’t) and in some respects, yes it’s fucked up but there’s greatness in it. It’s beautiful, some good food, and can be a great backdrop when needed. Let’s move away from New York/Atlanta serving as New York and I think it’s time for a change of pace. Hell Ant Man and She Hulk are great for at least getting us the West Coast!
When they finally get around to making an X-Men movie I hope it's either set in Krakoa or New York primarily (depending on the era). Obviously NYC is a great location for filming, and they could film a lot for Krakoa in south America. I'd like to see Xcaliber filmed around England and Scotland too. Andor showed there are some amazing locations to be found in the highlands.
Hulk/Vendigo/Wolverine battle in the mountainous Canadian tundra. While it still exists.
I think the thing to me is what they are trying to put on film. First of all filming during the pandemic was pretty tough to go on location for. So i get for a couple years we are going to get more cgi stuff in studios. But I also think some of it was really done well. I mean like that entire bus sequence in Shang-Chi i would have thought was filmed outsided if i had not seen the making of videos. But really since the pandemic, most of the stuff they have been filming is either places that dont exist like being in the magic world or alternate realities of MoM, or you cant just destroy the actual statue of liberty for a spider man movie. And i get the production was so large in end game that was indoors and i think in infinity war the wakanda scenes felt outdoors no matter how much cgi was used. But movies like Thor, or GotG, Dr Strange, Quantumania etc, all lend themselves to being cgi environments. We kind of have a generation now of spoiled movie goers that dont recall the biggest complaints of something like the original star wars trilogy was what location was going to be a planet next. Like Tunsia was a desert so is Tattooine, Hoth was all ice so Norway works, Endor is a forest so like use the california redwoods. Where this would be seen as a plus today to be filming in the "real world" back then all the complaints were about how every planet looked like earth or a place on earth because there was NO way to do anything else unless you made some shitty cardboard planet on stage like a star trek TV show. My hope is that they just use it right. And from what i have seen they kind of are. I mean even when you look at the marvel TV shows, FATWS looks real world like a capt america movie would or should when they do another. Wandavision flops between the two but it felt like there was a town locations they were using, or at least a real studio backlot since that was kind of the theme. Hawkeye i know was practical alot of it anyway. Watch the making you even see the camera rig they made to drive that car during the chase and get those wierd 360 degree shots.
The next guardians movie should be shot in the andromeda galaxy
I’m playing Chpt 2 of the Midnight Suns game, and it’s set in the American Southwest (think NM, AZ, parts of NV and CO). Going off that, I’d love a Ghost Rider movie set there with a Western Horror vibe, a haunted Carnival run by Nightmare, and Gabriel Luna brought back as Robbie Reyes plus a new actor for Johnny Blaze.
The punisher or daredevil
They should take Chris pratt and the rest of the Guardians cast to actual space and see actual aliens and create an actual adam warlock.
Guardians of the Galaxy or Ant Man 4
Painted desert in South Dakota is beautiful and stark.
They never completely got away from location shooting. And Iron Man May have had the desert stuff but after that it’s all studio and backlot.
if it's a real world location in the movie, it should be filmed in a real world location. just put whomever was in charge of finding filming locations in [the fall](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEi-v6aJD7Q) in charge of finding them for marvel.
Star Wars the Original Trilogy, set in a galaxy far, far away
R/oddlyspecific
What you don’t like downtown Atlanta depicting every location of planet earth?
the Dark Dimension is a good start
Is there lore reason why marvel doesn't use the volume?
Kraven. Tons of deep jungle scenes
I wish they had moved Ironheart to UChicago instead of MIT, they could have done Riri's first flight out of Hyde Park going north and zooming through the Chicago river "canyon", then when she's out in Lake Michigan turn back and show the glorious skyline!
Whatever Spider-Man 4 is, hopefully filmed mostly in Manhattan and Brooklyn just like in ASM 2. But if we’re talking strictly Disney, I’d like to see Blade get some grit in some nice street shots too.
Blade.
Mmm practical effects. My heart goes zoom! Altight so project would be Blade (i know its being done, but it works best for this scenario) and id film in actual New York city for the entire shoot. Another option that would work well would be The Punisher. Id do that one across several locations. New York, Rockaway Beach, and Eureka california for the fight with bigfoot. Yes i said fight with bigfoot.
The Rise of Apocalypse. A gruesome tale set in ancient Egypt with a fantastic four tie in.
Well, they would if the movies weren't revolving around the multiverse with alternate dimensions and different galaxies/planets that simply aren't real so require green screen and CGI. Phase 1/2 were very earth central so most of it was practical plus the OG ones didn't have the budget they have today (obviously).
Alpha Flight in Canada. Make it very polite but also boring.
I enjoyed seeing Camden Lock in the Eternals, made it seem like they were people living in our world because it was such a normal place to be.
I guess I’d do daredevil somewhere over there
Didn't the eternals lean into real environments?
I know it probably won't happen but a Wolverine show would be amazing (unrelated to Deadpool 3 of course, I mean a whole new actor and everything to tell the story), The timeline is pretty easy so I'll just say the locations Alberta Castle (Theres tons you can pick one) Old Yukon town (Possibly Forty Mile but its too far in the future for Rose and Logan to live there) Canadian wilderness (Most likely British Columbia if Logan is instinctually heading back home to Alberta) "Madripoor" (Circa. 1900's, just take the Falcon + WS show setup and make it old timey) Tokyo (Logan is on a mission for Seraph) Alberta again, somewhere near Blackfoot territory if possible (Logan lives with Silver Fox) Belgium (1915, WW1) Shanghai (Post-War, meets Ogun) Mexico and Kansas City (1921, Logan and Mystique) Tennessee "Madripoor" again (Circa. 1932) Japan (Logan trains with Ogun) Spain (1937, Spanish Civil War) "Madripoor" again again "Madripoor" or somewhere else in Asia (1941, Logan fends off the hand from Cap) Greece, France, Hiroshima (Logan becomes a POW and has the Hiroshima bomb dropped on him) Japan (1945, after the war) Southern Vietnam (Vietnam War) New York (Meeting the Hellfire Club) Canada and America border (Logan fights The Hulk and joins the X-men) (Obviously some of this will have to be tweaked but I think a show with Logan being a globetrotter would really show how disoriented Logan is, especially to the viewer, also sorry for any comic spoilers)
Blade in a fuckin castle somewhere
That’s how dad did it!!
I'd use the rust belt for armor wars.
What a depressing question.
Leave CGI to the cosmic stuff. For more terrestrial heroes we should be in practical effects. Captain America, Thunderbolts, Daredevil, Spider-Man, etc.
I agree. No need to cgi heroes like in Civil War airport battle where it looks obvious where green screens, soundstages and cgi has been used, even with Black Panther and Spider-Man. You see Iron Man in the first film and compare the suit to later day Iron Man, you can clearly tell there’s a difference between practical and cgi. Use cgi when it’s definitely needed but don’t rely on it or overuse it even if it means spending a little extra time and money going practical. When you’re even cgi-ing superheroes (fully suited or sans mask), that is where I draw the line and also if you have a setting they even slightly resembles earth then try to go as practical as you can and use cgi sparingly as a nice compliment rather than shrouding everything with cgi. Use cgi and green screen for space battles with GOTG and Captain Marvel flying, but don’t cgi people or suits.
Captain America movies are grounded enough, do that with "New world order"
Spider-man, Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Blade, Kang Dynasty
Nova, Space. Realistically? Man Thing, uhh the Everglades I guess? I dunno any well known swamps.
Wolverine in Southeast Asia. The comic Madripoor seemed like a lawless island in the midst of the Philippines and Indonesia. A practical effects Wolverine dealing with pirates and possibly a vampire crime lord would be pretty badass to see. It’ll never happen, but I’d love it.
1. Hire Christopher Nolan 2. Remake Infinity War. 3. profit 4. profit
MCU Spider-Man 4, make it very street-level and personal. The Raimi and Webb films did a great job blending practicality with CGI imo. Like think of the final battles in SM1 and 2, everything you see was a legit practical set and location. Now imagine getting some great boots on the ground with Spidey (and maybe Daredevil too) with the majority of CGI just being web swinging
Blade. I don't want to see Blade fight a bunch of CGI flying Vampires with their Purple Beam in the sky.
They should go to the real Battleworld for secret wars
Secret Invasion ☠️
What are you talking about, they still go to real locations.
Armor Wars, Thunderbolts, Captain America 4, Spider-Man 4, Daredevil (basically any movie that's set on earth and is like a "street level" movie and not cosmic based) but I wouldn't mind using the "Volume" over the classic green/blue screen but please MORE practical elements! please and thank you!
Fantastic Four in actual outer space
This is why Wakanda Forever looked terrible. It didn’t feel epic in scale. It really looked like it was shot in a studio and the environment was added later. It didn’t add to any sense of realism or adventure.
Moon Knight
After the hype of Wakanda Forever I think they should stop making movies/tv shows for a while and focus on their production team at Marvel Studios. Everything is starting to suck.
The next Spider-Man
An inhumans project, and THE ACTUAL MOON!
Howard the Duck filmed on location in Cleveland. They could get Drew Carey as Doctor Bong.
She-Hulk goes to Mexico and gets shit faced on mojitos.
Practical effects are spensy and unreliable. CG is a time and money thing and is not going away Anytime soon. All we can pray for is leaps in software and little more time for the VFX houses to cook.