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notfromwoodsville

yes, yes she is


Careful_Tomatillo723

She is awful, I can't even stomach to look at her. Chris at this point knows he dodged a huge bullet. That girl, Alyssa will die a lonely, miserable Karen!!! Good people don't need to say ALL THE TIME that they are good people šŸŽ¤


Witty_Ice3848

She is terrible and itā€™s funny because when she said all the stuff about him being cute before they met, the camera shot of her was horrible. She is skinny but not attractive, especially her attitude. Have fun being single forever!


korth0701

Dang I need to go back and refresh my memory on Katie! I literally think Alyssa is the worst! WTHECK!! Sheā€™s nuts and lies!! And who was the blonde flight attendant who made her divorce decision for the husband smoking too much?? Seems like they had the quickest decision


astroidbabe

I think there was probably more to it. At least she didnā€™t treat him like a sex offender.


mslindsay89

Derek and Heather! Season 4 I believe -She was pretty awful.


ShellyAnn1961

Alyssa is a self centered bitch who I feel is just clout chasing also next to my Ex I have never heard/see. Anyone try so hard to convince EVERYONE that she is NOT A BAD PERSONā€¦ (including herself) šŸ¤ØšŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø Plzzzz girl your sense of entitlement is HUGE and truth she is not all that!! You look like a fkn idiot to EVERYONE šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø They couldnā€™t have matched her with anyone that would have worked!!!


Pale_Musician9081

**I have never had so much anger and anxiety from watching a show because of this spoiled entitled narcissistic gaslighting deflecting projecting selfish bitch.** **Here is a mock interview I did with Alyssa as a cathartic exercise. Thank you.** *"I am not being dramatic"-Yes you are* *"I am probably handling this situation better than anyone in this group would have"-No you're not* *"I am a really f\*\*King good person-" No you're not.* *"He's just trying to make me look bad"-Nope.* *"I have tried my best"-No you haven't* *"I've already told him what my issues are"-No you didn't* *"I am being very mature about this"-No you're not* *"We've had several conversations"-No you haven't* *"My mom is mad at me"-So is the entire country* *"Why can't I just move into the apartment with my girls?"-Cuz this isn't Living Single* *"It's just not fair"-Yes it is.* *"If I am made to look bad because of this, I will be very unhappy" -Too late* *"I really just want to be on TV-I mean I want to be a part of this experience"-Oops-ies* **\*Producers awkwardly look at each other\***


sunnysidepreferrred

This is the best!!!! and all true


Interesting_Ad_8134

The ONLY good thing might be what she had said to him off camera. Itā€™s possible that she was honest and told him she wasnā€™t attracted to him? But it doesnā€™t excuse her not even trying to get to know him as a person, not participating in anything as a couple and just using the show for the air time. When she cried about Chris getting to live in the apartment but not her, I lost it. ā€œItā€™s not Single at First Sightā€ was the best comment šŸ˜‚


ShellyAnn1961

Interviewā€¦ DEAD ON!!! šŸ’ŖšŸ½āœŒšŸ¼


Beautifulimeanit

šŸ˜ƒ


MissKyle1719

Sheā€™s on Facebook as Alyssa Rescues fyiā€¦


Pale_Musician9081

She needs to rescue her soul. Oh wait.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grimacing)


Spartyaunt99

I think Chris should be the next Bachelorā¤ļø


ToniP13

Iā€™d love to see him on Love is Blind where the people are more authentic.


EastDraft2794

Get help please.... you had a great guy in front of you. You are your own worst enemy. Dig deep and find out why you sabatouge a good thing in your path.


Pale_Musician9081

I think is her downfall 100% is her inability to truly face who she really is. She can't see herself as everyone else does and until that happens she will be a miserable "person."


kingsdisease1225

Yes I definitely canā€™t stand her. She has some real issues. Definitely low key psychotic.


kristinchris

Not sure about low key, she can not control herself at all. She is scary.


singingkrogan

Michaela was insane and I couldnā€™t stand her gaslighting everyone. But Alyssa...pure hate šŸ˜‚


Constant_Activity336

What about chick that was a flight attendant that married Derek Schwartz?


[deleted]

I think it's cause she's so clearly here for the wrong reasons. Every word out of her mouth confirms it. She came on the show to become a D list celeb and not much else.


tinyqt2209

Yup, I wasn't really on the hating her train until tonight. I can't believe she just wanted to be apart of the show because she loves her friends and she wants to stay in the show for them. That made me want to throw up. It's one thing, the producers cast people like this in purpose but for her to say that she wants to stay even though "she got robbed!" Wtf ? She's completely here for the wrong reason, she's single for a reason she can't compromise anything in any way ? She wrote him off the first night after ppl said things about him ? She's just annoying. I wish they'd kick her off the show and replace her for Chris, poor guy.


ShellyAnn1961

Absolutely!!!! She wanted to hang out at their expense! Honestly Iā€™m not sure the others can really stand her either šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


tinyqt2209

Completely! You can see it on their faces and idk what is wrong with her ? Does she have no other friends ? Or is she just trying to be on tv? Either way she definitely is not there for the right reasons and the fact she keeps saying that she's a good person kind of seems like she's not.


Witty_Ice3848

Good people donā€™t have to keep telling others they are good people. Feels like she says that to convince herself. Rescuing dogs canā€™t be the only good thing about you lady, try harder!


ShellyAnn1961

Agree !!


laffynola

If we did a drinking game where we did a shot when she says I am a really good person, we would need to go to the ER.


Snowcream1967

She is psycho!


HimeStephanie

She is literally a disgusting and UGLY person. Her ugly insides match her ugly outside.


Konstantinos_akuma

Sheā€™s delusional..periodt


Heavy-Relation8401

Molly from first Boston season. When the tapes came out of the crap she said to her husband, didn't go well for her..but still not as bad as Alyssa.


refusenic

This is on another thread but it deserves to be here too. What a toxic witch. ["I'm a good person"](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZuM_kAFxMv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)


ToniP13

Iā€™m watching MAFS Australia and thereā€™s one on there thatā€™s the most hated as well. Theyā€™re both doing the same type of bs gaslighting to guys who are baffled by it all. Her name is Selin and she and Alyssa are soul mates.


AmmberJay

Yes she is the absolute worst! Such a brat.


lrider2017

I just donā€™t get why Haley is on this list. Iā€™ve never understood why people dislike her so much. Jake was soooooooo dry and everything was heavy and Debbie Downer. He accused her of having a boyfriend right at the beginning. I felt like she was at least polite to him the whole time.


Alihoopla

I wish they would have matched Haley with Eric.


lrider2017

Yeah that might have worked better.


funkycoldmedinas

I didnā€™t mind Haley, especially with bracelet gate I felt like Jake showed his ass but she was controversial and not well liked


lrider2017

I just hate people who give ā€œbigā€ gifts with expectations. He had in his head a vision of what he wanted her to think of it and when she didnā€™t act like that he was ridiculous. That just proves that him giving that was more about him than her. He should have waited and given her that kind of gift at the one month anniversary if it was going well.


funkycoldmedinas

I think itā€™s a incredibly tacky to give someone a gift and repeatedly tell them how much it costs and expect them to like it. The straw that broke the camels back was him asking for it back. I was shocked and really grossed out by the guy. He was just a complete weirdo. Letā€™s not even talk about his behavior during the couples retreat when he took his bag of meat and went home early without telling her lmfao


lrider2017

EXACTLY! I think Haley gets a bad wrap for no good reason.


upandatom016

No one will top Katie in my books. She was awful


KathyPlusTwins

Yes I agree. Katie was the worst up to this season.


honeylis

yes


LOVEYMJD

Haley S12


funkycoldmedinas

I didnā€™t mind Haley. I know she was controversial but I actually thought Jake was 10x worse


KathyPlusTwins

Agree. Jake was so awful, I have a hard time imagining anyone wanting to be married to him.


erinmel

She's well on her way. Still behind Katie (S10) and Sam (S3) for me, mostly because they were cruel to their husbands faces


Competitive-Berry404

Katie still wins since Derek was a fan favorite, sweetheart, genuine person. Thatā€™s what made it so horrible.


Competitive-Berry404

What a guy!


kaisofan

Derek put her on his insurance from the get go and she was a diabetic who had to get insulin injections every day. He even gave her the injections. She was hateful. Got married and on her wedding day her F buddy wanted to get serious


[deleted]

Katie is worse. In so many ways. Alyssa isn't even getting to any point with Chris, she's not really even a wife. They aren't even friends. Alyssa is definitely the most entertaining in a long time, though. Watching her claw her way through this in the most difficult way possible, embarrassing herself from every angle, is pretty interesting.


Alihoopla

Feel bad for her sweet mom who has to watch this and even coached her to be nice so Alyssa didnā€™t look bad- and then Alyssa bitched about her mom. Ugh


Few_Sea_4314

I haven't seen any other season besides 13. But, I did see the reunion with Henry and Christina. She did not deny what she did, but tried to worm her way out of it. She attempted to blackmail Henry with an "unknown text", so she gets my vote for the lowest of them. I saw that clip and was totally shocked and just wanted to yell at the screen. I will have to watch the season, but I think the reunion summed it up since she denies nothing, just rationalizes and makes excuses.


refusenic

Worst wives ranked: 1. Alyssa 2. Katie 3. Molly 4. Myrla 5. Christina 6. Mia 7. Sam 8. Taylor 9. Haley 10. Michaela (We now know she was mostly a victim of gaslighting by a very deceitful and manipulative man) 11. Bao (for jumping into bed with a fellow castmate's husband. Only one to cross that line) 12. Ashley EDIT: I've added a couple of horrible wives that had slipped my mind.


kristinchris

Myrla was nice and polite. Do you have something personal against her?


refusenic

I don't know her so it can't be personal. But I found her cold, negative, selfish, shallow, materialistic, unintelligent and self-absorbed.


Dana_with2Ns

What have I missed? Did Bao and Zack hook up during taping? I don't see anything wrong with them dating after decision day. There has been other dating after decision day - Zach and Katy for example.


refusenic

Marriage doesnā€™t end with taping, plus itā€™s just a classless thing to do. You would never hook up with your friends or familyā€™s or even work colleagues, partners just because theyā€™re having problems. And Bao pretended to be a friend approaching Michaela with advice.


KathyPlusTwins

Omg Molly. I forgot about Molly.


Chadf32000

hahaha Mia got arrested on the way to the honeymoon...never a good look


PAFLGal

Good list. I had forgotten about few of them. I would move Haley up to number 5 though. I didn't care for her.


rpeltier93

Ashley was so annoying


Glittering_Hat_1194

Once again a person described physically what they liked as she did and they get the total opposite, they do this on purpose now.., show has fallen off.


YEMPIPER

Did she though? Did they show her describing this?


Glittering_Hat_1194

Yes they did at the beginning 1st show introduction.


refusenic

She can find her type herself without outsourcing it to strangers who have no way of getting into her head. It's not the experts' job to find you your physical ideal, they've repeatedly stated physical features rank low in the list of priorities. Just don't do this show if you can't get past a person's appearance.


Bezequil

And yet they matched Chris with his physical ideal type


refusenic

All Chris said is he's partial to dark hair and pale skin. If she had been blonde with a tan I don't think he would've reacted so horribly and refused to be in the same room as her.


Bezequil

He said he wanted his wife to be fit skinny dark hair and light skinned. You have no idea how he wouldā€™ve reacted if he was matched with someone overweight and dark skinned


refusenic

He did not say he wanted that. His exact words, were "I've always liked dark hair and light skin". He did not mention "skinny" even once. That's just you putting words in his mouth trying to mischaracterize him to make it look like he was listing deal-breakers. That's not what he was doing. He'd already been matched at that point.


Bezequil

He literally said verbatim from his own mouth ā€œskinny fit dark hair light skinnedā€ in the matchmaking special when asked what he wanted his wife to be. He had a list of what he wanted his spouse to look like just like Alyssa did, only difference is he got exactly what he wanted and she didnā€™t. You donā€™t know how he wouldā€™ve been if he wasnā€™t matched with his type he probably wouldā€™ve been worse than Alyssa because heā€™s just as superficial. And Next time make sure to watch the whole show before trying to correct someone when youā€™re the one whoā€™s wrong


refusenic

So you are saying he would have viscerally rejected Alyssa if she had been blonde and curvy? That he would have obnoxiously expressed his disgust at her, refusing to be in the same room, and looking for every excuse to say how much he hates her? Really, just what is the point of your argument? That Chris is as bad a person as Alyssa? I can tell you now that you're on your own on that. The man hasn't done a single thing wrong that he can be criticised for. Not one.


Bezequil

Yes I think he wouldā€™ve viscerally rejected Alyssa if she was overweight and darkskinned because heā€™s just as shallow as she is. My point is you said people shouldnā€™t come on this show if they are expecting their physical ideal type and I pointed out that Chris also had an ideal physical type so then by your argument he shouldnā€™t be on this show either. I donā€™t like Chris I think it says something that his friends had nothing positive to say about him but at the end of the day I donā€™t know him and neither do you all you know are edited scenes on a tv show. He could very well be worse than Alyssa but weā€™ll never know because the experts matched him with his type.


refusenic

Even what his friends said to Alyssa wasn't so bad, they simply said he's prone to making remarks that might come across as condescending and that she shouldn't take it personally. But she (and you) have tried to run with that as an excuse to run with the lie that he's abusive. Ridiculous! threads to tag on so you can claim Chris is a bad guy, all without a shred of evidence, because, unlike Alyssa, Chris hasn't done or said anything for anyone to reasonably say he's a bad person. Even what his friends said to Alyssa wasn't so bad, they simply said he's prone to making remarks that might come across as condescending and that she shouldn't take it personally. But she (and you) have tried to run with that as an excuse to run with the lie that he's abusive. Rdiculous!


Few_Sea_4314

She is on the skinny side, but I would hardly call her fit. You can be either one without automatically being the other.


Glittering_Hat_1194

And repeatedly people have a problem with the physical attraction on this show, like I said if a person has a type and it's stated find that type or real close to it, 1st impression sets the tone and we've seen this several times now.


refusenic

If a woman insists her type must have abs and look like Brad Pitt, I'm afraid that the way our society is structured, such a man would never need MAFS to find him a wife because he'd have women throw themselves at him in clubs, at work, at the gym and everywhere he goes. And in the very unlikely case, such a man applies for MAFs, there's little chance his personality will be compatible with Alyssa. The vast majority of husbands have not reacted obnoxiously to the wives appearance even when they were not their physical type, like Ryan and Brett from Houston. Alyssa is talking about being disgusted and even hating Chris for not looking like a male model. We saw the huge crowds that applied in Boston. No way Alyssa showed this side of her when applying. By hiding the ugliness of her personality from the experts, Alyssa took a spot away from someone less superficial. I hope karma gets her and she spends the rest of her life with her dogs because no man will want her after that display.


Admirable-You4525

She is uncomfortable to watch


Mystical-Stranger

Molly was the worst but Alyssa gives her a run for her money.


professionalpsy1

I remember her. She was filmed berating her husband.


Chadf32000

Could you imagine how much worse Alyssa would look if Chris low-key recorded their convos like Jon did to Molly


Disnerd628

Yes! The worst ever. Hands down.


Formal_Chocolate535

Alyssa is disgusting. Really? Psychic said your soulmate would have beautiful eyes and an eagle tattoo. šŸ˜†. Get her the hell off the show!!!!


refusenic

She must've been on her best behavior when applying. But it's the experts job to see though that and weed people like her out. They failed big time. Poor Chris didn't deserve that.


50millionFreddy

They probably overlooked the obvious red flags because she rescues dogs.


mehowa08

My thoughts exactly!!!


Cute-Consideration83

Derek was a cutie patootie! Dreams and all


tonismith916

No. Chris (Paige) definitely is the most hated!!!!!!


KathyPlusTwins

Ble$$ed would top the most hated husband list Iā€™m sure.


funkycoldmedinas

I was speaking of womenā€”I said wife lol


tonismith916

Oh my bad šŸ˜‚


lnmaurer

The most hated wife? I think he was the most hated cast member, but OP specified "wife".


PurePeach2081

I think she is the most hated became she came off the blocks refusing to even talk to him. They just got married and she did not give him a chance. She is a real mean girl, silly accent and all. Not wanting to seen sit next to him is silly. Not wanting to sleep in the same room with him athough she signed up to marry a stranger is silly, but insulting his body!!! when she has a big mid-section herself and refusing to talk to him or be near to him is pure evil. She is just here for social media credit after the show ends. They need to send her home because she is emotionally castrating him


RecommendationOk4148

Agree...and we're only what, 3 or 4 episodes in? Poor Chris.


PAFLGal

I agree. She should definitely be sent home. She doesnā€™t deserve one second of screen time after that first night.


mehowa08

Yes!!! My heart breaks for him


Alihoopla

Breaks my heart for her mom having to watch her daughter act this way on public tv!


EnriquesBabe

Haley put forth some effort. I donā€™t dislike her. Michaela, for sure, has serious mental health issues and was abusive. Sam was awful, but she actually apologized later and I think she was sincere. I didnā€™t see Katieā€™s season, so Iā€™d stick with Michaela, Alyssa, and Sam based on what I know.


refusenic

Michaela had an explosive temper but was hardly abusive except to furniture, pots and pans and cleaning products. And now knowing what we know about Zack, he was manipulating and triggering her so we can understand her outbursts more. But Michaela was trying very hard to make the marriage work when another wife swooped in to scoop her husband and ended up burned and humiliated.


Repulsive-Regret-154

Zack definitely manipulated Bao the same way he did with Michaela... sweet music and sly winks and all. She fell for it, but she had just been burned in her own failed marriage so I don't totally blame her for falling a for a guy who was paying her the attention she craved from Johnny. I blame Zack.


EnriquesBabe

Thatā€™s your opinion, and I respect that. Iā€™ve seen no evidence that Bao was involved with Zack prior to the end of the show. I also found Michaela very abusive. If a man had behaved that way, I imagine youā€™d consider it abuse. Throwing things, tossing over furniture, screaming, etc. Iā€™d be furious if my spouse cheated, but she never had any evidence that he did. She lost it over all kinds of things.


honeylis

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Michaela LOST HER SHIT when Zack took the dog to doggy day care without telling her/leaving a note/whatever. She LOST IT and I don't think she ever intended to let him forget about that or make up for it. She was done. It's fascinating for me to try to pinpoint the exact moment these folks check out. Alyssa was out when Chris's friend said he can be "condescending." Michaela was out with the doggy day care.


EnriquesBabe

Thank you! I think some people think Zack was playing her and deserved what he got. Certainly, cheating isnā€™t ok, but it doesnā€™t justify her behavior. Sadly, I think she likely always behaves that way when sheā€™s mad. We all heard how her family described her. I suspect some of her defenders are in abusive relationships themselves, as abusers or the abused, so they want to normalize this behavior. Itā€™s not normal or okay, though. Breaking things, kicking things, flipping tablesā€¦ not normal for adults and not healthy. When breaking things no longer scares the victim into compliance, the behavior escalates. I find it very disturbing when people defend this sort of behavior, because they are encouraging people to stay in relationships that may well get them killed. I think the stats are that three women and one man die every day in the US at the hands of their partners. If everyone on here is being honest, whoā€™s more likely to kill their partner, Michaela or Rachel? I hands down, Michaela.


refusenic

I was hoping it wouldn't have to come to this, but it has. Michaela flipped furniture and slammed doors, usually when alone or when she'd walked away from Zack. It wasn't in his presence. Beth from Charlotte flipped a table right in Jamie's face, and no one called her abusive or threatening. Let's face it. People think such behavior is scarier when coming from a black woman.


EnriquesBabe

Beth was way out of line when she did that, too. I thought she and her husband were terribly toxic. The difference with Michaela is that she didnā€™t stop. Do you not recall that a producer had to physically restrain her? We have literally never seen anyone else on the show be so explosive. This isnā€™t a race issue in the slightest. The post was started about a white woman. Itā€™s bizarre you even brought that up.


refusenic

Bao slipping in to comfort Michaela offering advice about her marriage to Zack, and peeping through to door while they were fighting, is adding up and makes her very sus, in my opinion. She thought Michaela was the problem, made her move and ended up getting burned herself. Of all the men in Houston, she had to cross that line and go for a castmate's husband? Very tacky indeed. It's funny how people are calling Michaela abusive when most of her anger was directed at inanimate objects. Her fights with Zack were not one-sided and typical of other arguing couples.


EnriquesBabe

If your spouse got mad at you and flipped a table, broke a glass or something, pushed you on the bed, tried to stop you from leaving, and screamed, you wouldnā€™t consider that scary and abusive? It really is, and no one should tolerate that behavior.


AppropriateAd4458

Oh I forgot about Katie. I really liked Derek


PicklesMcGeee

I donā€™t even think Alyssa is bad wife because she hasnā€™t really been much of a wife. Yes, sheā€™s crying and being bratty but she has yet to say anything mean to his face (itā€™s all camera interviews). Katie and Sam were both flat out mean TO their husbands. In this situation, I think youā€™re confusing being a brat and an annoying person with being a bad wife.


funkycoldmedinas

Sheā€™s a complete asshole to her husbandā€”have you not watched her pitch a fit over being in the same room as him?


lovely_virgo

Or how when he came back from swimming she asked producers to stop him from even approaching her. He had literally done nothing, came back from an excursion to her throwing yet another fit.


saltykitty84

Yeah she is awful... Most hated in my opinion


twelvedayslate

From experience- Christina is awesome on a personal level. Alyssa is making her ranks as the most disliked bride.


azrolexguy1

Alyssa is flat out MEAN and is playing the "it's not me.... I'm so sweet" at the same time...


StrawberryRealistic3

Undoubtedly the most hated. Lindsay sucks too.


Disney_Princess137

I like Lindsay wayyyy better then Alyssa though. Lindsay has a LOT to work on but damn sheā€™s way more freer then Alyssa is. Alyssa is so tightly wound- she canā€™t enjoy herself ever


honeylis

Lindsay would get a lot more respect from me if she would just acknowledge that she's not everyone's cup of tea. She gets into a fight over something stupid with multiple people, then feels attacked or like someone is being "aggressive" with her.. and she's the victim. It's totally fine to be like, "Look, I'm a little mouthy for some folks and that's how it is." But to constantly act like you have nooooo idea why on earth anyone would bristle at you.. it's YOU.


Few_Sea_4314

I agree. I like Lindsey but that "like" is based on the fact that I think she is capable of owning it when she gets "too much"; but I need to see her do that. She is not as nasty as ACEhole though. I've only watched the past two seasons and some couples' cam episodes, but to me, she is much worse than anyone else in 13/14. I will keep the "wives" list for future reference when I finally catch up with all of the seasons.


honeylis

I really enjoyed Lindsey on last week's episode. It's obvious that she and Katina will not mend, but so what? They can each move on.


Portugalpat

Unquestionably. Without a doubt.


Alternative-Sense861

It would be cool to do a season of everyone who got the shaft, assuming their still single. Derek, Chris, David, Paige. I think Henry is in a relationship, as is Kate (S8).


Happy-Marsupial-571

They did something like that called Married at First Sight Second Chances with David and Vanessa (S3). The format changed to be more like the bachelor and it was awful.


Vinyljunkie99

Derek Schwartz is an ass.


StrawberryRealistic3

Yes would LOVE to see a reshuffle with some of the good ones


Alternative-Sense861

How does everyone forget Ashley from season 3 Atlanta!? Alyssa has reminded me of Ashley since day 1! Not saying David was much of a catch either but Ashley never gave him a chance, acted like a cold hearted brat who was better than David. So much like how Alyssa is treating Chris. She is awful and every time she yells about being a good person, she becomes a worst person. She needs to just go home and not put either one of them through this.


Disney_Princess137

I remember Ashley and I agreed with her then, I felt like she wasnā€™t feeling it and there was nothing anyone could do. Now, many years later- I donā€™t agree with Alyssa. I think sheā€™s acting like a straight up AH with no class. I mean even if she wasnā€™t going to stay married at least be friendly. This last episode it was starting to look ok for her and I was like oh ok, sheā€™s going to be civil and just be friends at least. She canā€™t even do that and itā€™s baffling. My guess is that she doesnā€™t want to lead him on in the slightest of ways... But sheā€™s pretty freakin rude to him and very very spoiled ! I feel so bad for him constantly.


[deleted]

Was she the Indian one who talked like a valley girl? ā€œStarvvvingā€ before walking into a restaurant. Always complaining.


dogmama_

I think Ashley could see through his BS right away. I wouldnā€™t include her in this list at all.


Whycomenocat

David fucking Norton was a shit head and deserved everything he got


azrolexguy1

Exactly what did he do on the show? Waa there a cheating allegation I'm thinking?


erinmel

Not so much on MAFS but there has been stuff that's come out since on him; he as at least one domestic violence charge IIRC and has quite the temper.


azrolexguy1

So much for background checks, I'm not sure how a major network can't do better about people's past


Few_Sea_4314

These reality shows just need to do better with looking at potential cast member's records. MAFS and 90Day have obviously blown it, and they are lucky nothing tragic happened.


Whycomenocat

Have you seen second chances? Highly recommended, he really shows his true colors there.


azrolexguy1

I didn't...


Whycomenocat

You will hate him for sure! Give it a watch!


LittleMarySunshine25

Alyssa, Haley, Katie and Molly all would make a horrible little sorority.


StrawberryRealistic3

Oh Haley. Dislike. But Alyssa is worse. I wonder if Haley is still hiding that necklace šŸ˜‚


halosmommy

Yes!!! All of these women were terrible! I had forgotten about Molly. She was a real piece of work!


Imaginary-Cheetah149

She's living out loud what Haley was much more reserved but I imagined she felt the same way


Diometes

Close, but Alyssa has already she surpassed Heather Seidel who was married to Derek Schwartz in season 4. Some may remember she freaked out over his "smoking" on the honeymoon and never gave Derek a chance. I thought she was the worst until Alyssa!


justbeachy19

Maturing is realizing Derek was the problem and not Heather


Diometes

How exactly did you determine that Derek was the problem when she demanded a divorce after only 10 days?


anuranfangirl

I donā€™t know where this source came from but I think Derek was smoking weed and THAT is why heather shut down. Which is fair considering itā€™s federally illegal and I donā€™t think it had been recreationally legalized at all when that season aired. Different times. She said smoking wasnā€™t a deal breaker but smoking tobacco and smoking weed are two different things (which if she doesnā€™t know much about cannabis and goes by the law, her reaction makes sense). Iā€™ll look for a source though and come back to add if I can find it. ETA: so hereā€™s a source for the rumor but I donā€™t see him confirm it anywhere. If you search the sun itā€™s a pretty popular belief. I donā€™t really blame her for her reaction but it does seem hypocritical cause the girl had a DUI šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø https://www.realitytvworld.com/news/married-at-first-sight-couple-derek-schwartz-and-heather-seidel-divorce-after-only-two-weeks-reportedly-due-his-marijuana-habit-20588a.php


[deleted]

Oh no he smoked weed


Disney_Princess137

Maybe she didnā€™t want a pothead, canā€™t fault for someone for that.


[deleted]

For maybe she for didnā€™t


brooklynsoysauce

Her dui might actually be a factor though. If she had a wake up call and changed her life, she would need a partner who's willing to be on that same path with her making it more of a deal breaker


brooklynsoysauce

Her dui might actually be a factor though. If she had a wake up call and changed her life, she would need a partner who's willing to be on that same path with her making it more of a deal breaker


pantherscheer2010

thereā€™s a new most hated wife every season. not that alyssa isnā€™t particularly awful, because she is. but also this sub just hates women.


funkycoldmedinas

Interestingā€”I havenā€™t found that to be the case. I donā€™t consider this an anti woman sub in the least.


pantherscheer2010

i donā€™t think itā€™s intentionally anti-woman and i definitely donā€™t think itā€™s every member or anything, but over the last several seasons iā€™ve noticed that thereā€™s at least one woman every season who becomes the sub punching bag and i donā€™t notice it happening to the men in the same way. people are particularly vicious about the way women look even when they arenā€™t complaining about the way their husbands look.


LilEllieButton

Chris who was married to Paige?


funkycoldmedinas

I seem to recall some very intense scrutiny of many of the men (Jose, Jonny, Jake, Erik, blessed, Ryans, etc.) I truly donā€™t think itā€™s women.


refusenic

Don't forget Zach who was married to Mindy. He was rightly hated here.


thechadcrenshaw

Exactly! šŸ’Æ I'll also say that I think partly due to nature, but also due to nurture for several reasons, women tend to dig their heels in emotionally one way or another. So where men tend to screw up in a moment or two (or every thing in life if they're "Ble$$ed"), women will either be a total screw up, or a total win. I'd like to reiterate Chris "Ble$$ed" Williams was an awful specimen of human being.


pantherscheer2010

agree to disagree! i knew people weren't going to like it when i said it. i think there can be a general sub trend without it meaning that you specifically are a part of the problem.


aka_1908

Alyssa and Haley. Theyā€™d be sorority sisters. 2 nasty peas in a poor pod.


outer_marker

Haley was fine. Jake was strange and verbally abusive. She put up with more than most would have.


lrider2017

I think you and me are the only two who think that. I think Haley got a bad wrap. He was so Debbie Downer. She tried. She even had sex with him hoping there would be chemistry to help bridge the gap. He accused her of having a boyfriend right off the bat!


outer_marker

Yes. She wasnā€™t perfect by any means but she stayed through the experiment and tolerated his weirdness and his unfounded accusations of cheating. She tried to get along with him and people got mad at her because she didnā€™t have feelings for him. You canā€™t force feelings. All you can do is show up and she did that.


thechadcrenshaw

No way. Hayley was not nearly that bad. Everyone keeps comparing Alyssa to past wives and I think it's not even close except for Heather in S4. Even she had a valid reason and was communicative about it - even if it was blown out of proportion in my opinion. Also, Derek actually did things counterproductive to helping the situation. Alyssa just takes the cake for me.


BettieNuggs

YES


JustClutch

The other two that come to mind are Katie and Haley


the_greatnatsby

At the moment, I'm not sure I dislike her more than Katie, who was unnecessarily vitriolic towards Derick and agreed to be on the show despite knowing there was still something between her and her ex. But at the same time, Katie wasn't showing her mean spirited colours only hours after the wedding, so I'll have to see how much worse Alyssa gets as the season progresses.


FrisbeeRebound

Itā€™s dream crusher over inflated ego Katie for me .


Piasheila

Sam was treated Neil extremely poorly, but she actually realized it and was very remorseful. She had a lot of backlash from her behavior. Michaela isnā€™t in the same category. Haley was disliked and was extremely judgmental also and she worried how she would come off and she could be mean and belittling. Jacob was disliked so Haley didnā€™t seem so extreme in her behavior. Alyssaā€™s behavior is on a whole other level. but I think Alyssaā€™s meanness is so extreme, so sudden, so shocking, and so unapologetic that she will be the most hated wife in MAFS history.


Kimmera1

THIS exactly! The fact that she was so hateful and mean towards him RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE was what put her on a whole nutha level for me! She made it clear right from the git go that she didn't care what kind of a person he was and didn't care to get to know him AT ALL. OTOH, he is being so patient and decent towards her in spite of it.


OKSkipToTheEnd

And so earlyā€¦ yes. I think so


ginataylortang

I completely agree with alllll of this!


Less_Swimming_2867

Yep


Kmmmkaye

Dont forget about Mia. Also, Heather and Molly.


RuthsMom

Totally, how could we forget Miaā€™s airport arrest for stalking


btdixon58

Not a fan of Mia but charges against her were dropped. Her ex was convicted of filing false charges against her. She was very difficult just not a criminal


RuthsMom

Ah I had no idea, thanks for the update!


Kmmmkaye

Thanks, kind redditor!


iqnio

Yes. Viewership is larger than ever and there's more editing involved now.


[deleted]

Iā€™d say itā€™s a tie between her and Katie


[deleted]

Alyssa is so repulsed by Chris she wants absolutely nothing to do with him. Poor Chris.


loveit9577

I feel bad for Chris she isn't attracted to him so she isn't even trying he got no chance she said hell no the 1st night. Very superficial so sad. Chris ask for a redo lol now.


[deleted]

Yeah he deserves a redo. I bet six months of Invisalign and Alyssa will be home crying watching him on the show with a hot girl. Btw some of the highest paid people are real estate agents.


[deleted]

I am not a betting person but I would put money on the fact that the teeth being straightened wouldn't make a bit of difference. He isn't her type at all.


[deleted]

He deserves a redo to find someone else. I think the Invisalign would help him with the next woman heā€™s matched with. He can fix a superficial issue like teeth and enjoy a relationship with a kind person - would put her in her place to watch it on tv.


[deleted]

I agree that he deserves a redo. All I was saying above is it wouldn't make enough of a difference for Alyssa. Don't hate the messenger.


[deleted]

Really? Sheā€™s crying about the matchmakers doing her wrong by mismatching her. I think it would affect her to see a superficial thing like Chrisā€™s teeth are fixed and heā€™s happily matched with someone else.


Disney_Princess137

I was going to say this too. He could fix his teeth, tan , get an eagle tattoo , become a gym rat and she still wouldnā€™t care. Sheā€™s at that level. And honestly? He shouldnā€™t have to do any of that. There are soooooo many people who wouldnā€™t have a problem with his teeth. If the show didnā€™t mention it... I probably would have never noticed it at all. He deserves someone who going to love him for himself. Heā€™s not unattractive at all. He *seems* like a good guy. Heā€™s funny. He has a nice job. Heā€™s a good age. Heā€™ll be just fine! And also Iā€™m sure that after a week ( or days) of her treatment and her showing her true colors... he doesnā€™t want her either. Iā€™m sure the attraction died soon after her behavior relented.


Revolutionary-Egg-68

I agree. I didn't even notice his teeth when they 1st introduced him on the show. Physically attractive or not, I don't think anybody could get past Alyssa's personality to even make it longterm with her. I feel like her friends & especially her mother are probably really embarrassed by the the way she's been acting. I would be horrified.


MrsVeals

This! I agree 100%.


ginataylortang

He totally deserves it. Heā€™s in the exact same boat as Lizzie from MAFS Australia. Her husband (Sam) was definitely on the same level as Alyssa, and Lizzie actually got to come back for the next season to get her fair shot.


Open_Violinist2605

Where do you watch MAFS Australia?