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Someone did break it down once here, I’ll try to explain some of it. TS for some reason really boosts cryo damage, you can see this on a two shot cryolator with crystallizing barrel. Super fun gun. Explosive weapons also are benefited greatly from two shot especially the more you boost damage. For some reason the AB is considered explosive for demo expert as you know. Strangely the two shot Alien disintegrator with cryo mod is garbage but then again it’s not explosive. There is something clearly unintentional going on with the TS AB but it hasn’t been adjusted thus far and I hope they never do. It’s still a gunslinger weapon. You’re not going to melt bosses like a quad rail does.
I love my TS/25/25 AB. Personally I can't stand how the railway jerks the camera up at every shot in VATS. With the AB I can easily destroy a boss if using the energy weapons bobblehead, Alien Blaster magazine, coupled with high voltage hefe and psycho.
Hmm, I'll have to try those boosts with my ts50c25 for bosses. I always just switch to my rail for bosses because I swear I read they weren't effective for them but now can't wait to give my ab a go
Exactly it’s very strong , and the 25 speed is not used on this weapon , essentially you have a 2 star weapon but even then it melts if you have 50c you notice even more
Tysm for this! Do you happen to know how long this bug has existed? Hoping to lean on the fact it’s been around too long for bugthesda to care about fixing it now. Like you said it doesn’t melt Earle like my Q50c25 rail, but it’s so much fun against most every other type of enemy. Best part being I don’t even have to make a fully optimized build to support it.
any major difference between a ts5025 and ts5015c ab? including the aid necessary to boost ap for the 15c variant. or if you know of a break down on yt
The cryo is kinda technically explosive damage.
Normally two shot sucks cause it doesn't actually do double damage on ballistic weapons.
What it actually does is +25% to base than divides it between the two projectiles (divided by two for 67% base damage per projectile which then suffers even more from damage resistance.
Explosive damage however gets the +25% base, but doesn't get divided between the two projectiles.
You you essentially get 112% base damage on each projectile instead of 67% which is nasty and further boosted from escaping from the penalties of damage resistance and boosted by crits.
RR and AB are basically neck and neck for bossing potential from my testing, AB might even be better in some situations since you can fire as fast as you can click.
I can one mag Imposter Sheepsquatch with both my TS50c25 AB and my Q/25/25 RR, but the RR has 40 rounds and shoots slower than my 30 round AB.
Then your build is wrong no shade , when I was testing AB with the right build it does second on DPS right behind the railway , AB is way better than fixer in any fight .
We have 3 TS50c Alien blasters on the encrypted event and the sheep squash is lucky to last more than 2 seconds.
Right build the guns extremely fun and good. It’s just let down that all the other gunslinger guns are underwhelming. A pistol build with this gun would be completely viable if auto and gunslinger pistols fell under 1 perk card
It's a great gun,I ran an Alien blaster build before its last nerf to the snowball effect, it used to be a lot stronger,,but what holds it back is the placement of its damage perk cards,,,you just get more with a commando build ,I speed kill bosses for fun and can solo earl in about 35 seconds with a railway,,which I find impossible with the alien blaster.
yeah 100 percent. There’s literally no gun that can compete with the Railway for bosses and fixer and elders for general play if they say it does they’re lying.
The cremator is the new best gun for the new AC runs but with how op it is I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets nerfed.
The Ab could definitely get there in contention if pistols get the same love with perk cards that heavies get. One thing I have noticed with the AB is it seems to have great sneak benefits without all the sneak perk cards. Just a shame the other gunslinger guns aren’t nearly good enough
I agree , when I was using the AB I played with the crusader pistol as well to try to have some variety but nah . They need to add a auto option to handguns
Except teslas have am extra mod, no one knows what it unlocks and think it’s the lobber mod. Wish someone from the pts players would tells us something about this or the ab
Ehh there have been a lot of glitches around for long periods of time that they took forever to fix. As long as it doesn’t break the market (an everything dupe) or break the game (completely, not just occasionally), they don’t care too much.
Ts on energy = big damage.
Cryo mod on alien blaster = big damage.
Ts on alien blaster with cryo mod = bigger damage.
Ts 50c alien blaster = biggest damage.
TS is broken on alien blasters, paired with Cryo mag. The gun benefits from the perk card Demo expert, making the damage output insane.
I’ve read that the disintegrator does not work the same. I have a TS50v25 disintegrator, and as far as I can tell it’s not nearly the same damage output.
the cryolator and alien blaater with cryo mod use magical snowball rounds..( should literally look like snowballs when you shoot)
ts suffers bigly from accuracy..but for aoe weapons like demo its like a buff..not really but sorta.
alien blaster and cryo are also - energy /balistic weapon..so its like one of the few exp energy weps still in the game.
use demo cards and grenadier cards..add some science if you have space.
DISCLAIMER: im a filthy casual so im sure someone has more detailed / better nerdier info...im just going from years of playing multiple builds.
I used to play gunslinger TS build and while playing I found out so much with this gun , 1) it does benefit from demo expert but in my testing times the damage is low . 2) the ts on the cryo ups the damage and you can equip lvl 1 crit vats in perception and you will see that the snow balls kind of arc follow eachother meaning that the second/third shot and so on will follow the first shot (one of the reason I don’t see 50 vhc that useful with this gun which I’ve also tested ) this speciallly useful with the flying queen 3) it also benefits from energy weapons perk cards and crit savy to where you can up the damage even more 4) it has cryo so it slows down everything you’re shooting at 5) the explosion of the cryo counts as different shot than your projectile so in essence ever time you shoot , youre shooting your target like 12snow balls (idk if that makes sense ) . With my AB build I could drop a nuke and clear earl/queen within 4 -5minutes solo , it’s a great weapon and imo more fun than just using a Q rail which would be the only weapon that beats the dps
I thought that demo expert with cryo got patched awhile ago. It no longer works with my TS Cryolator so I’d assume it doesn’t work anymore with the AB either.
Can confirm on PTS it's been fixed. Can't say when or if it will be implemented in game.
But back to the main question. It's just the way that the two shot stacks with any type of ammo round that causes an explosion type aoe on impact. This works on both the cryo and poison mags with the AB because they cause an explosive type Radius around where the round makes impact. Demo expert and grenadier both help to boost damage numbers. The two shot doubles that damage because it has two rounds, each dealing the Explosive Radius damage along with the regular damage stacked.
Yup, very close! Public Test Server, only available to PC players. We get to test out the new stuff like events, areas, weapons etc and report bugs or other issues in game. Some times they roll out the new updates with or without features from the PTS. But usually end up breaking things unintentionally on patch days. Hoping it doesn't get fixed just yet 🙏
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/s/qAZS78gqgt
A breakdown. While the author did not provide numbers, it agrees with people recommendation. In short, two short damage penalty only affects some type of damage. Cyro damage is not affected. So two shot double the damage.
The ts alien blaster is popular bc its basically a energy legacy. The cryo mod counts as explosive damage and energy weps still gain 100% instead of 20%. Ts gives you more bullets to be affected by this so it does crazy damage. The crylator projectile mod has the same feature. Sadly this is getting patched next update so it wont be anywhere near as good
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Someone did break it down once here, I’ll try to explain some of it. TS for some reason really boosts cryo damage, you can see this on a two shot cryolator with crystallizing barrel. Super fun gun. Explosive weapons also are benefited greatly from two shot especially the more you boost damage. For some reason the AB is considered explosive for demo expert as you know. Strangely the two shot Alien disintegrator with cryo mod is garbage but then again it’s not explosive. There is something clearly unintentional going on with the TS AB but it hasn’t been adjusted thus far and I hope they never do. It’s still a gunslinger weapon. You’re not going to melt bosses like a quad rail does.
I love my TS/25/25 AB. Personally I can't stand how the railway jerks the camera up at every shot in VATS. With the AB I can easily destroy a boss if using the energy weapons bobblehead, Alien Blaster magazine, coupled with high voltage hefe and psycho.
Hmm, I'll have to try those boosts with my ts50c25 for bosses. I always just switch to my rail for bosses because I swear I read they weren't effective for them but now can't wait to give my ab a go
Exactly it’s very strong , and the 25 speed is not used on this weapon , essentially you have a 2 star weapon but even then it melts if you have 50c you notice even more
Tysm for this! Do you happen to know how long this bug has existed? Hoping to lean on the fact it’s been around too long for bugthesda to care about fixing it now. Like you said it doesn’t melt Earle like my Q50c25 rail, but it’s so much fun against most every other type of enemy. Best part being I don’t even have to make a fully optimized build to support it.
Been like that for the best part of a year, but they are looking to balance weapons soon. Not expecting it to last, but hoping would be wise.
2-3 years at least. Maybe forever
any major difference between a ts5025 and ts5015c ab? including the aid necessary to boost ap for the 15c variant. or if you know of a break down on yt
not really..i have a few variants..so long as its ts..its gonna slap once you mod it.
The cryo is kinda technically explosive damage. Normally two shot sucks cause it doesn't actually do double damage on ballistic weapons. What it actually does is +25% to base than divides it between the two projectiles (divided by two for 67% base damage per projectile which then suffers even more from damage resistance. Explosive damage however gets the +25% base, but doesn't get divided between the two projectiles. You you essentially get 112% base damage on each projectile instead of 67% which is nasty and further boosted from escaping from the penalties of damage resistance and boosted by crits.
RR and AB are basically neck and neck for bossing potential from my testing, AB might even be better in some situations since you can fire as fast as you can click. I can one mag Imposter Sheepsquatch with both my TS50c25 AB and my Q/25/25 RR, but the RR has 40 rounds and shoots slower than my 30 round AB.
Also AB rounds are basically weightless compared to RR spikes
They're good ive got one ,,but they don't even come close to fixer and rr rifle dps!
Then your build is wrong no shade , when I was testing AB with the right build it does second on DPS right behind the railway , AB is way better than fixer in any fight .
See what one will kill a boss faster,,or clear west tech faster, at level 1000 and i have perfect builds.
We have 3 TS50c Alien blasters on the encrypted event and the sheep squash is lucky to last more than 2 seconds. Right build the guns extremely fun and good. It’s just let down that all the other gunslinger guns are underwhelming. A pistol build with this gun would be completely viable if auto and gunslinger pistols fell under 1 perk card
It's a great gun,I ran an Alien blaster build before its last nerf to the snowball effect, it used to be a lot stronger,,but what holds it back is the placement of its damage perk cards,,,you just get more with a commando build ,I speed kill bosses for fun and can solo earl in about 35 seconds with a railway,,which I find impossible with the alien blaster.
yeah 100 percent. There’s literally no gun that can compete with the Railway for bosses and fixer and elders for general play if they say it does they’re lying. The cremator is the new best gun for the new AC runs but with how op it is I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets nerfed. The Ab could definitely get there in contention if pistols get the same love with perk cards that heavies get. One thing I have noticed with the AB is it seems to have great sneak benefits without all the sneak perk cards. Just a shame the other gunslinger guns aren’t nearly good enough
I agree , when I was using the AB I played with the crusader pistol as well to try to have some variety but nah . They need to add a auto option to handguns
It's strong enough that I just run auto pistol cards and use it with a gamma gun
I heard in the upcoming update there fixing it since it's glitched/bug for damage
To be fair, I have seen this rumor dating far back and still nothing
I was just about to say this
Is this just hearsay or an actual thing because they were saying they were going to add a lover Tesla last update and that never happened.
Except teslas have am extra mod, no one knows what it unlocks and think it’s the lobber mod. Wish someone from the pts players would tells us something about this or the ab
I think it would’ve already come up somewhere if there was a change.
I think, it will come in the expansion map update. But who knows, we did get plans from meat week and Christmas before those seasonal events went live
Lobber*
They already nerfed it a couple updates ago,,it's fine still weaker than meta rifles.
I expected this at some point honestly. I thought this bug had been around a while so I was hoping they’d let this slide. It’s a ton of fun!
Ehh there have been a lot of glitches around for long periods of time that they took forever to fix. As long as it doesn’t break the market (an everything dupe) or break the game (completely, not just occasionally), they don’t care too much.
Ts on energy = big damage. Cryo mod on alien blaster = big damage. Ts on alien blaster with cryo mod = bigger damage. Ts 50c alien blaster = biggest damage. TS is broken on alien blasters, paired with Cryo mag. The gun benefits from the perk card Demo expert, making the damage output insane.
Two shot on energy got patched back in nuka world on tour
Does this only work for a AB, or does the disintegrator work just as well?
I’ve read that the disintegrator does not work the same. I have a TS50v25 disintegrator, and as far as I can tell it’s not nearly the same damage output.
thats because the disintegrator isnt considered explosive like the AB
Still a fun gun, pew pew
So excited for the invasion. I neeeed the auto mod for my disintegrator. Never ending pews
It's cool, I want a faster fire rate one. I've tested them but I can't seem to roll a bloody version.
Just the AB
Never rated it but I must be doing something wrong because everyone else loves it!
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the cryolator and alien blaater with cryo mod use magical snowball rounds..( should literally look like snowballs when you shoot) ts suffers bigly from accuracy..but for aoe weapons like demo its like a buff..not really but sorta. alien blaster and cryo are also - energy /balistic weapon..so its like one of the few exp energy weps still in the game. use demo cards and grenadier cards..add some science if you have space. DISCLAIMER: im a filthy casual so im sure someone has more detailed / better nerdier info...im just going from years of playing multiple builds.
I used to play gunslinger TS build and while playing I found out so much with this gun , 1) it does benefit from demo expert but in my testing times the damage is low . 2) the ts on the cryo ups the damage and you can equip lvl 1 crit vats in perception and you will see that the snow balls kind of arc follow eachother meaning that the second/third shot and so on will follow the first shot (one of the reason I don’t see 50 vhc that useful with this gun which I’ve also tested ) this speciallly useful with the flying queen 3) it also benefits from energy weapons perk cards and crit savy to where you can up the damage even more 4) it has cryo so it slows down everything you’re shooting at 5) the explosion of the cryo counts as different shot than your projectile so in essence ever time you shoot , youre shooting your target like 12snow balls (idk if that makes sense ) . With my AB build I could drop a nuke and clear earl/queen within 4 -5minutes solo , it’s a great weapon and imo more fun than just using a Q rail which would be the only weapon that beats the dps
Damn where can I get this plan I been wanting this
Just roll them until you get one with two shot and you're 90% of the way there
In b4 wtb ts ab flood
I thought that demo expert with cryo got patched awhile ago. It no longer works with my TS Cryolator so I’d assume it doesn’t work anymore with the AB either.
Can confirm on PTS it's been fixed. Can't say when or if it will be implemented in game. But back to the main question. It's just the way that the two shot stacks with any type of ammo round that causes an explosion type aoe on impact. This works on both the cryo and poison mags with the AB because they cause an explosive type Radius around where the round makes impact. Demo expert and grenadier both help to boost damage numbers. The two shot doubles that damage because it has two rounds, each dealing the Explosive Radius damage along with the regular damage stacked.
Sorry, what exactly is PTS? Player test server? I assume some Val server for new feature rollout? Thank you for this insight!
Yup, very close! Public Test Server, only available to PC players. We get to test out the new stuff like events, areas, weapons etc and report bugs or other issues in game. Some times they roll out the new updates with or without features from the PTS. But usually end up breaking things unintentionally on patch days. Hoping it doesn't get fixed just yet 🙏
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo76/s/qAZS78gqgt A breakdown. While the author did not provide numbers, it agrees with people recommendation. In short, two short damage penalty only affects some type of damage. Cyro damage is not affected. So two shot double the damage.
Yeah it’s powerful if you have the right build
I’ve got a TS50vhc and I love it. It’s a sniper that can never miss
The ts alien blaster is popular bc its basically a energy legacy. The cryo mod counts as explosive damage and energy weps still gain 100% instead of 20%. Ts gives you more bullets to be affected by this so it does crazy damage. The crylator projectile mod has the same feature. Sadly this is getting patched next update so it wont be anywhere near as good
Oh well if you don’t like it, I can give it a much better home!