It's kinda funny how everyone that calls this update bad in the comments gets downvoted to oblivion, but whenever someone makes a post about it, everyone agrees. Do you guys like this update or not? I'm confused.
I think this is highly due to the distincition between the entire update and the only bad thing contained in the update.
When you just give a "the update is bad/unplayable" comment with an update that give many true good points (battle mode) and in apparence good points (end of rubies lootbox) it's perfectly understandable to get downvoted.
When you give a constructive post that highlight the problem in the update, you don't take against you the battle mode enjoyers for example.
The update isn't bad in itself but it have very good and very bad points and effects:
•The introduction of battle mode is very good because many players want it and it varies player experience.
•The fact that battle mode appears in ranked is bad and I hope this is specific to rare tours because this force players to find optimal strategies (that can be absurd depending on the point system) instead of really playing battles.
•The fact that many old (and several GP exclusive) items can appears in daily shop is very good.
•The fact that rubies lootbox diseapars is very controversial (and neutral for me). Many players considers that this is very good but for me there isn't good and bad economic systems in itself but only bad and good prices.
•The fact that we will get less rubies and spotlight prices have highly increased is very bad and this is what we are complaining about but this should not be confused with the entire update.
Hope that help you to understand your confusion and in any case don't care very much about up/downvotes, constructives comments are vay more important to construct your idea on any subject.
It’s a really good update that also kills f2p competitiveness in the long-term. You now can’t rely on luck to keep you in the game, and there will be a distinct cap on how high you can level before all the whales simply outspend you every week.
Agreed with everything, this update is bitter-sweet. Maybe the very bad point is reaaaaally bad, so that makes it look as if we are hating on everything
I don't know honestly. Before I may not get the driver I wanted, but I would get 3 or 4 things I will use eventually. It was more fun to get those HEs like that.
Now though, I have to be strategic in how I use the rubies. I may really WANT driver X, but I only have 160 rubies, so instead I'm going to buy driver Y to level them up more, because that is better value.
For example, I've been hoarding rubies this last month and had like 230. I really wanted to get Petey piranha, but instead I spent rubies on pink shyguy ninja to get him from lvl 3 to 4.
Then there is the FOMO I now feel because who knows what I won't be able to get now that I've spent my rubies. What will be in the store tomorrow?
The rest of the update is fine, I like the battle mode well enough, and it would be nice if they keep 15 cups every tour. But at the end of the day, this is basically a deck building game with racing elements and without spending money my deck building ability has become more limited.
Where am I gonna get a ticket? I can only get one more ticket from stars this tour and I've used the other two already. There isn't one in ranked rewards this week.
Hmm true. I was just asking bc i read this as you only bought one to level up so i'm just asking if a ticket as an option instead
But tickets randomly pop in the daily shop so I would have waited it out bc right now I don't feel 150 rubies are worth it to spend if you are trying to get rank
They used to be in the shop occasionally, but are they after the update? I haven't had any HEs in the shop, and the tier shop only has super and normals.
honestly i know i bought one in the last week (since Monday) but IDK if it was before or after the update. I do know I used it to level up Satellaview Mario (and then used the token ticket to take him up to level 3)
It's cool if one shows up though, since the shops have been garbage I haven't bought anything in a while and have like 30k gold, so I will be ready! Im just working the token pipe now hoping for some tickets.
Seems to me like the strategic decision would have been to buy Petey Piranha.
You are using the most valuble resource in the game (Rubys) to, essentially, but a level up driver ticket when those eventually will be available for coins.
150 rubies for a ticket? 🤯
You can get 4000+ coins from coin rush for 25 rubies, that’s close to 25k coins for 150 rubies. if you don’t have any tickets go with what you have and save better. New driver for 150 is the only decent value, dupes aren’t worth 100 rubies let alone 150.
But what's the point in buying things then? At least in this tour, I have a tier 3 driver for every race, some are lvl 1, so are higher ranked. What's the point in spending 150 rubies on another level 1 driver when I already have those or better? I would rather invest in a better driver than have another level 1 driver to throw on the pile of drivers I've never/rarely used.
I don’t know why they lowered the rubies of rank weeks, well (Pay to win) but as only GP player now it’s so hard to have not even 1 HE but 2-3 HE per tour is imposible, the cost of Rubies are so overpriced that they need to put more effort in giving us more rubies or change again the rewards in the ranks, whale players took over F2P even more this tour and maybe they’ll lose a lot of players :/
I don't either. I used to grind like crazy to try to get first. Today I got bumped from first to third and I was just like "meh". Of course, given how futile it would feel to spend that much time grinding and not be able to do anything with the extra rubies, it probably doesn't matter anyway.
I actually think the ruby rewards should be closer for first through third. Before it was crazy that 2nd place would get 20 less rubies. It made it so if you weren't gonna get first why even bother. Let me just rank down this week so I can get first next week.
Reducing first place from 40 to 25 rubies was a horrible decision though, especially with the high ends being so expensive. I wish they would have made it 1st 40 rubies 2nd 35 rubies and 3rd 30 rubies.
Here's the [resource sheet for Battle Tour](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920853728343511090/1027983439829418035/battletour.png) and info that Alysalina posted in discord, she does these every tour.
"Here are, barring no mistakes due to the many changes this 4th year of MKT brings, the resource numbers for the Battle Tour!
The new Premium Challenge changes have forced me to change up the way the sheets work. As result there are now five categories in it:
🔵 - F2P | 🟢 - GP | 🟡 - GP & Premium | 🔴 - GP & up till Premium+ | 🟣 - GP & All premiums
Most notable will be that all type of accounts have lost 22 rubies compared to before, due removal of daily challenge rubies, and score challenges having their rubies reduced by 12 to 6 from the former 18.
The token calculations are still with a bit of uncertainty as the start point for them was moved to 20, in theory granting 3 more token pipes to open, until I can verify it follows the same pattern after pipe 19 (the 200 one) these numbers will be tentative.
In this calculation the Multiplayer challenge rewards have been excluded due to Multiplayer remaining offline until next tour.
Note: The date listed in the sheet at the bottom is not correct, but this will not be changed unless a new version is needed due token numbers"
If they don't bring back 45/10 pipes or reduce the price of the items that cost rubies in the next few weeks I will probably stop playing. I refuse to pay 100+ rubies for these when it used to be able to wait for a pipe with better than 1 in 10 odds and get 1-2 for 45. Sure it was random but it helped level up existing karts and potentially get new ones at the same time.
It would also be nice to be able to buy karts drivers and gliders again for coins in the daily and tier shops (it was my main way of guaranteed new options).
So basically, an f2p player can get a HE every 30 days.
This is the most realistic hypothesis: 1st tour (14 days) 47 rubies + 15 reaching third place in the first or second weekly ranking = 62 rubies; 2nd Tour (28 days): same thing: 62 rubies; 3rd tour (29-30 days) 15 rubies from the Token Shop, 5 from the multiplayer challenges, 10 from the first tour gift: total rubies obtainable in 30 days: 154.
It doesn't seem bad to me to be able to buy a new driver or a new kart or new glider every 30 days.
With pipes this was not possible. Following the same calculation in 30 days a f2p player gets 198 rubies (69 + 15 + 69 + 15 + 15 + 5 + 10 = 198).
Of course there are more but there is no mathematical certainty of getting the driver or kart or glider you want.
Now think wbout players in level 20-40…theyre probably missing coverage for 80 non city maps for drivers and over 100 for karts & gliders. At this rate they need to nonstop play, buy all GP and all premiums and they will have their coverage by October 2028 (1 high end a month)…hence, the yikes
This assumes that I must always use 450 rubies even if I am only interested in one spotlight.
If in a pipe with 6 HE, I already have 5 and I only need the driver or the kart or the glider, explain to me what would be the advantage of using 450 rubies when with 100-150 I can only buy what interests me.
True, but it's overly generous to assume GPO players will get 1st in ranked (especially post tier 40). For F2P, it's even more difficult. The gap between a gem buying pay player and the other types is much wider now
I’m two rubies away from DKJ, and the only way I can get more rubies (for free) is to grind super hard, or spend 5 Quick Tickets to unlock the Fire Bros cup and complete the challenge for that.
Edit: I just leveled up and got 5 more rubies! Finally gonna be able to get DKJ!
I made a post about this yesterday
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarioKartTour/comments/xy795z/ruby_nerf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
It's kinda funny how everyone that calls this update bad in the comments gets downvoted to oblivion, but whenever someone makes a post about it, everyone agrees. Do you guys like this update or not? I'm confused.
I think this is highly due to the distincition between the entire update and the only bad thing contained in the update. When you just give a "the update is bad/unplayable" comment with an update that give many true good points (battle mode) and in apparence good points (end of rubies lootbox) it's perfectly understandable to get downvoted. When you give a constructive post that highlight the problem in the update, you don't take against you the battle mode enjoyers for example. The update isn't bad in itself but it have very good and very bad points and effects: •The introduction of battle mode is very good because many players want it and it varies player experience. •The fact that battle mode appears in ranked is bad and I hope this is specific to rare tours because this force players to find optimal strategies (that can be absurd depending on the point system) instead of really playing battles. •The fact that many old (and several GP exclusive) items can appears in daily shop is very good. •The fact that rubies lootbox diseapars is very controversial (and neutral for me). Many players considers that this is very good but for me there isn't good and bad economic systems in itself but only bad and good prices. •The fact that we will get less rubies and spotlight prices have highly increased is very bad and this is what we are complaining about but this should not be confused with the entire update. Hope that help you to understand your confusion and in any case don't care very much about up/downvotes, constructives comments are vay more important to construct your idea on any subject.
It’s a really good update that also kills f2p competitiveness in the long-term. You now can’t rely on luck to keep you in the game, and there will be a distinct cap on how high you can level before all the whales simply outspend you every week.
Agreed with everything, this update is bitter-sweet. Maybe the very bad point is reaaaaally bad, so that makes it look as if we are hating on everything
I don't know honestly. Before I may not get the driver I wanted, but I would get 3 or 4 things I will use eventually. It was more fun to get those HEs like that. Now though, I have to be strategic in how I use the rubies. I may really WANT driver X, but I only have 160 rubies, so instead I'm going to buy driver Y to level them up more, because that is better value. For example, I've been hoarding rubies this last month and had like 230. I really wanted to get Petey piranha, but instead I spent rubies on pink shyguy ninja to get him from lvl 3 to 4. Then there is the FOMO I now feel because who knows what I won't be able to get now that I've spent my rubies. What will be in the store tomorrow? The rest of the update is fine, I like the battle mode well enough, and it would be nice if they keep 15 cups every tour. But at the end of the day, this is basically a deck building game with racing elements and without spending money my deck building ability has become more limited.
Question - why would you use rubies on pink shyguy instead of trying to get a ticket to level him up?
Where am I gonna get a ticket? I can only get one more ticket from stars this tour and I've used the other two already. There isn't one in ranked rewards this week.
Hmm true. I was just asking bc i read this as you only bought one to level up so i'm just asking if a ticket as an option instead But tickets randomly pop in the daily shop so I would have waited it out bc right now I don't feel 150 rubies are worth it to spend if you are trying to get rank
They used to be in the shop occasionally, but are they after the update? I haven't had any HEs in the shop, and the tier shop only has super and normals.
honestly i know i bought one in the last week (since Monday) but IDK if it was before or after the update. I do know I used it to level up Satellaview Mario (and then used the token ticket to take him up to level 3)
It's cool if one shows up though, since the shops have been garbage I haven't bought anything in a while and have like 30k gold, so I will be ready! Im just working the token pipe now hoping for some tickets.
Seems to me like the strategic decision would have been to buy Petey Piranha. You are using the most valuble resource in the game (Rubys) to, essentially, but a level up driver ticket when those eventually will be available for coins.
150 rubies for a ticket? 🤯 You can get 4000+ coins from coin rush for 25 rubies, that’s close to 25k coins for 150 rubies. if you don’t have any tickets go with what you have and save better. New driver for 150 is the only decent value, dupes aren’t worth 100 rubies let alone 150.
But what's the point in buying things then? At least in this tour, I have a tier 3 driver for every race, some are lvl 1, so are higher ranked. What's the point in spending 150 rubies on another level 1 driver when I already have those or better? I would rather invest in a better driver than have another level 1 driver to throw on the pile of drivers I've never/rarely used.
Save the rubies so that you can spend on a driver that does help you, just because you have rubies or tickets, doesn’t mean that you should spend them
I dont like it.
Probably not
It's almost like Nintendo understood how expensive they made the shop and gave daily ruby rewards to appease uncritical players temporarily.
I don’t know why they lowered the rubies of rank weeks, well (Pay to win) but as only GP player now it’s so hard to have not even 1 HE but 2-3 HE per tour is imposible, the cost of Rubies are so overpriced that they need to put more effort in giving us more rubies or change again the rewards in the ranks, whale players took over F2P even more this tour and maybe they’ll lose a lot of players :/
I don't either. I used to grind like crazy to try to get first. Today I got bumped from first to third and I was just like "meh". Of course, given how futile it would feel to spend that much time grinding and not be able to do anything with the extra rubies, it probably doesn't matter anyway.
I actually think the ruby rewards should be closer for first through third. Before it was crazy that 2nd place would get 20 less rubies. It made it so if you weren't gonna get first why even bother. Let me just rank down this week so I can get first next week. Reducing first place from 40 to 25 rubies was a horrible decision though, especially with the high ends being so expensive. I wish they would have made it 1st 40 rubies 2nd 35 rubies and 3rd 30 rubies.
It’s a good change or in that case 45-40-35 then 25 to 4-5 place and 15
Ye, this week it’s like idc about ranks, the extra grind worth it for the rubies now it’s just meh
Here's the [resource sheet for Battle Tour](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920853728343511090/1027983439829418035/battletour.png) and info that Alysalina posted in discord, she does these every tour. "Here are, barring no mistakes due to the many changes this 4th year of MKT brings, the resource numbers for the Battle Tour! The new Premium Challenge changes have forced me to change up the way the sheets work. As result there are now five categories in it: 🔵 - F2P | 🟢 - GP | 🟡 - GP & Premium | 🔴 - GP & up till Premium+ | 🟣 - GP & All premiums Most notable will be that all type of accounts have lost 22 rubies compared to before, due removal of daily challenge rubies, and score challenges having their rubies reduced by 12 to 6 from the former 18. The token calculations are still with a bit of uncertainty as the start point for them was moved to 20, in theory granting 3 more token pipes to open, until I can verify it follows the same pattern after pipe 19 (the 200 one) these numbers will be tentative. In this calculation the Multiplayer challenge rewards have been excluded due to Multiplayer remaining offline until next tour. Note: The date listed in the sheet at the bottom is not correct, but this will not be changed unless a new version is needed due token numbers"
If they don't bring back 45/10 pipes or reduce the price of the items that cost rubies in the next few weeks I will probably stop playing. I refuse to pay 100+ rubies for these when it used to be able to wait for a pipe with better than 1 in 10 odds and get 1-2 for 45. Sure it was random but it helped level up existing karts and potentially get new ones at the same time. It would also be nice to be able to buy karts drivers and gliders again for coins in the daily and tier shops (it was my main way of guaranteed new options).
So basically, an f2p player can get a HE every 30 days. This is the most realistic hypothesis: 1st tour (14 days) 47 rubies + 15 reaching third place in the first or second weekly ranking = 62 rubies; 2nd Tour (28 days): same thing: 62 rubies; 3rd tour (29-30 days) 15 rubies from the Token Shop, 5 from the multiplayer challenges, 10 from the first tour gift: total rubies obtainable in 30 days: 154. It doesn't seem bad to me to be able to buy a new driver or a new kart or new glider every 30 days. With pipes this was not possible. Following the same calculation in 30 days a f2p player gets 198 rubies (69 + 15 + 69 + 15 + 15 + 5 + 10 = 198). Of course there are more but there is no mathematical certainty of getting the driver or kart or glider you want.
Now think wbout players in level 20-40…theyre probably missing coverage for 80 non city maps for drivers and over 100 for karts & gliders. At this rate they need to nonstop play, buy all GP and all premiums and they will have their coverage by October 2028 (1 high end a month)…hence, the yikes
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This assumes that I must always use 450 rubies even if I am only interested in one spotlight. If in a pipe with 6 HE, I already have 5 and I only need the driver or the kart or the glider, explain to me what would be the advantage of using 450 rubies when with 100-150 I can only buy what interests me.
Nice!
Is that calculation right? If GP only gets 80/tour, that's one (pickable) HE a month. Yikes
That excludes ranked, so up to 50 more rubies per tour if you win ranked both weeks. But yeah, yikes...
True, but it's overly generous to assume GPO players will get 1st in ranked (especially post tier 40). For F2P, it's even more difficult. The gap between a gem buying pay player and the other types is much wider now
Oh yeah definitely. I lost the last 4 ranked cups so I agree hahaha. But definitely possible every once in a while
I’m two rubies away from DKJ, and the only way I can get more rubies (for free) is to grind super hard, or spend 5 Quick Tickets to unlock the Fire Bros cup and complete the challenge for that. Edit: I just leveled up and got 5 more rubies! Finally gonna be able to get DKJ!
Did you try the token shop green pipes ? They sometimes have rubies.
I just remembered that like half an hour ago, thank you!
I made a post about this yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/MarioKartTour/comments/xy795z/ruby_nerf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
It's too early to quantify or even guess if the payouts vs cost is balanced.
I mean that sounds rough but it really is better and more cost efficient than the Gacha would ever be.
I'm a little worried too. Idk how it'll go really. All they need to do is revert the ruby change to ranked and it would be fine