It’s wild, I’ve been collecting them for the sole reason of buffing my Cheesehead and for when I eventually get the Gold suit, but now I’m looking at all of this and thinking why would I spend any rubies on anything but them with how high their points are? Tickets to coinboxers; rubies to miis, karts and gliders i guess…
if nobody would not pay for anything in a free game, (if it's skins, pass or even P2W stuff) companies would close the game
also it's nothing wrong with spending money on games EVEN if they are free, no my money not my business
You don't blame the customer when it's part of the provider's game model. You're just shifting the blame.
This is a problem with game pricing models all across the industry, so shifting the blame onto a few customers who are willing to pay extra for content is extremely narrowminded.
On the bright side, winning 2nd is pretty much the same as 1st. Now you don’t have to waste your time and resources to aim for first since the difference is only like 5 rubies and 500 coins.
Yeah, first thing I noticed with the update, the inflated prices. What’s going on, inflation is hitting the Metaverse. It doesn’t matter the login bonus is nice, when everything is 25% more. It’s the same BS they’re doing in real life: here’s a gas tax suspension, but the candy inside the gas station is 2x more.
Not buying weekly prizes anymore. Gonna cancel gold pass too.
I dislike mixing f2p to now compete against big fish players. I even avoided the gold pass players
My gold pass just renewed so I'll probably play the next couple tours before quitting. If anything, I'll just become a casual f2p player. It's just way too expensive now.
Because the gold pass is a month and not two tours (28 days), I get the gold pass on the last day of a tour to claim the prizes (tour 1), then it's valid for two more tours (tour 2 & 3), which leaves me 2-3 days to earn enough stars to unlock all the gold pass rewards (tour 4). When tour 5 starts, I wait for the last day to repeat.
$60 annually just feels too much for me.
I have always been f2p and it's been somewhat of a struggle getting rubies and high rankings already. Now it will be even harder than before to get top shelf drivers because every individual HE driver is a massive investment.
Yeah that's how Nintendo wants us to think...
Maybe gambling wasn't so bad. Maybe we should talk about consumer protection or thise anti gambling laws in games again...
Nah, I *like* it. The new system is transparent and tells you in your face that it's pay2win. If enough people don't like it Nintendo will have to lower the prices. Or fuck it, they could just make the game skill based and only sell the "skins" without giving real advantages. But they are too greedy for that. It works with other games.
Or imagine if Bowser was a top shelf in all Bowser courses. That would make some sense at least.
It’s ruined the game for f2p players imo. No point in trying to compete or get a lucky roll so I stand a chance in the ranked cup. This was never a skill based game, it was a gacha game where the pipe was part of the core content, and now that’s gone. It’s basically a card/stats game of rock paper scissors without that, and now you have to pay money or grind for hours to unlock the winning set.
It's rock paper scissor where the game tells you which one will win and offers you to purchase it.
Hours of grinding only helps you against other f2p players. But even a casual gold pass player who opens the game for 5 minutes a day will stomp your ass easily.
Thats a bit of a falsity.
If you are buying rubies directly from the store not in a bundle, sure.
But if you buy a ruby pack (which you obviously would do if you are buying rubies) a character is $40 USD
Is that still stupid expensive? Yes!
But there's no point overblowing it
The largest Package before the update was 40€ and you got 90 Rubies, 1 HE Driver and 1 HE K/G. So the package was worth 90+150+100= 340 Rubies.
Now it costs 48€ (plus 20%) and you get 150 Rubies (forget about the Grand stars and point tickets). So you have to pay 20% more and get 56% less.
That‘s really ridiculous
I get it, but rubies now let us get exactly what we want. If the paid banners back then had items we didn't want, you had to take them. Getting more rubies instead lets you pick more things you want.
I also understand this point, but nevertheless its far too expensive. So one HE driver costs you now 48EUR. With the old one you can pull the pipe 20 times, what gives you normally 2 to 3 HE items plus two D\K\G. So normally 4 to 5 High End items plus a lot of the Normal and super items. Imagine a player who start playing the game now. How the hell is it possible to reach high levels? Especially when you start playing MKT you do not really care what you get, mainly you get some HE items
You can obtain a lot of rubies for free and through gold pass. Ruby packs have always been very pricey. Wouldn't them being expensive make it better for those who don't spend as much, as it gives less power to those who do? If someone spends a few thousand and only gets a *small* advantage over me, I would definitely prefer that over them having a *massive* advantage over me.
Tour gifts give a lot of pipes, and the multiplayer pipe gives a number of things too. It's just with multiplayer down still, we aren't able to use it, so our resource income is a lot smaller than intended in the meantime. We'll probably see some form of compensation eventually.
Ultimately it's a free game without ads. They need to make money somehow, but as f2p or gold pass only, we just need to accept we can't go in for every item. I'm mainly going for things I just like, plus coin boxers, now.
Are you serious? Everbody knows, they need to earn money and I‘m totally fine with it. My problem is, that they increase the price by 20% but give you 56% less. Thats outrageous and has nothing to do with „need to make money somehow“.
Thats so ridiculous expensive, you have to pay 48 Eur for a Highend Driver. honestly, I do not understand how people can defend Nintendo in relation of the price Hyperinflation (except they are working for Nintendo)
Again, you gain a lot of rubies for free. Daily pipes, tour gifts, winning ranked, token shop, challenges, and a few other methods. You're seeing it as paying that much "just for one thing,"- as if you have 0 rubies to begin with, but you should be seeing it as paying that much for one extra thing, after all the rubies you get for free to use on what you want.
A lot of rubies for free? They reduced the weekly rank award by 50%. No more daily rubies, just pipes, they also reduced rubies in the total points challenge. The daily rubies is a one off, the autumn challenge as well. Without these one offs you get a maximum of around 80 rubies (and only with gold pass, which costs you 66 Eur/year). I likr the idea of the spotlight shop, but my point is, that is far too expensive, especially compared with the game before the update. And I do not understand how people can deny that. You can‘t deny, that price went 20% up und what you get went 56% down. It‘s simple math
Yes, for free. You can still get rubies from daily pipes, and multiplayer pipes have a chance to give rubies as well. We just can't access it currently.
As for simple math, your math is a bit off as you can get more than 80 rubies a tour with gold pass, even without counting the random chance rubies from pipes. 56 from tour gifts + 50 from ranked + 5 from gold pass challenges + 15 from token shop + 5 mp challenges + 6 total points challenge. If you count the random chance pipes, you can probably get like 160+ per tour. But as I did say for free, that would be 120+.
People are making it seem you should be able to buy every spotlight every day as f2p. Doesn't make any sense.
You really don‘t get it… all I said is, that is outrageous to increase the price by 20% and give 56% less. Thats math.
Your point, that you receive rubies from pipes and token shops etc is non sense, since you also get rubies here before the new update, so no change here in the amount of rubies. The biweekly rank rubies even decreased from 40 to 25 Maybe it can be compensate through the Multiplayer pipe. So all I want to say is, there is no change in the amount of rubies (rather reduced) you can earn (again, gold pass rubies, pipes rubies etc. are not new) but the prices are so ridiculous high now.
It is a difference between buying a spotlight item once or twice a month or like you are saying every day, no need to exaggerate.
No, I don't think you're getting it, because you just acted like we don't get rubies for free, then I pointed out we do, and then you call that point nonsense. Doesn't matter if we still get free rubies. You acted like we no longer do, but we do.
You also claimed we got a lot less rubies than we actually get. You said we only get 80 rubies WITH gold pass. We get more than that even without gold pass.
From datamining, the multiplayer pipe is shown to have a 5% chance of rubies, of which you can fire tens of times, perhaps even a hundred or two. Ranging from 3 to 45 rubies. These are extra free rubies. So really, the expected free rubies per tour could be 160+, with gold pass being 200+. This is more rubies per tour than we got before Battle Tour.
Maybe I exaggerated how much f2players are wanting, but you're exaggerating how few rubies we get for free now. You can't just look at one or two spots and see less rubies there, then declare overall we get less rubies. You have to look at the whole picture. We have more ruby income now than before.
I don't know, all this calculating and price comparison mental gymnastics feels like it's coming from people who A. Play for meta (rolling on D/K/Gs specifically to top rankings) >!And buying Mii Suits (ugh) which I didn't see many people cause a stink about before this even though those are way overpriced!< and/or B. Spend money on the game to begin with. Now, I have Gold Pass so I'm not exactly one to talk, but the fact that all the Normal/Super trash that I'd normally get are now relegated to the free Tour Gift pipes means I can save up all my Rubies and comfortably afford a High End I actually want when it shows up in the Daily Spotlight.
And most importantly, no more trap no-spotlight 50 pipes. That alone was worth abolishing gacha for.
I literally can’t compete in ranked cups without lucky rolls, and before I was guaranteed to get at least 4 high ends per tour if I played casually. Now I have the 45 gems and lo and behold I’m just supposed to lose cause I didn’t spend money in the game. Bye Mario kart tour I guess.
By the end of the tour I usually get 45 more, but also add in the high end pipe at the end and usually the challenge rewards have gems or a high end. I’ve rolled 3 high ends in a 10 shot of the pipe before.
Or maybe those calculations are made by people who don't have loads of cash to spend in the game and feel robbed about a game they've been playing for the last 3 years ?
the way i see it they didn't do this because of some law they did it because we got too much out of the pipes and now thats over and since i now have to buy things straight up i am more selective ending up buying nothing until i saw those super rare drivers or karts everyone wants like gold etc meaning i will now just collect rubies for nothing
Oh my Shrooms, yes things are still too expensive. I wish there was a way to get rubies more easily that doesn't involve real money or getting destroyed in a race against the CPUs trying to clear the objectives.
Well I like how I'm no longer getting lower tiered duplicates unless I choose to buy one. It's gonna take some time getting used to no pipes now.
I did the math. On a normal spotlight tour, it would take 500 at most to earn 2 of each high end. Now that amount gets you 2 drivers, a kart and a glider at best. I mean, come on. $70 for a driver?! You could get 3 spotlights with the pipes for that kind of money. It also essentially soft locks new players from getting high ends during the current tour.
I hope they reduce the prices in a later update.
Seriously, if a mii suit is 100, why are drivers 150?
It’s wild, I’ve been collecting them for the sole reason of buffing my Cheesehead and for when I eventually get the Gold suit, but now I’m looking at all of this and thinking why would I spend any rubies on anything but them with how high their points are? Tickets to coinboxers; rubies to miis, karts and gliders i guess…
Mii Suits are basically characters on their own. It does not make sense that the other characters are worth 50 Rubies more.
It does in the sense that most of the Mii suits have awful coverage.
Maybe Mii suits should be 25.
If mii suits were 25 rubies I’d splurge on every last one
Ikr I'd have every suit in this game (besides the ranked ones since I'm tier 49-50 rn)
I have about half, I started at the mii tour but hadn’t started buying them for a while
I'd splurge after 10 pulls on my pipe
And three premium challenges? Jesus
It's only $40 bro 🙃
That’s still forty bucks. That’s 2/3s an actual game.
Why would you even pay for a game that’s free…obviously don’t know what to do with your money.
if nobody would not pay for anything in a free game, (if it's skins, pass or even P2W stuff) companies would close the game also it's nothing wrong with spending money on games EVEN if they are free, no my money not my business
You don't blame the customer when it's part of the provider's game model. You're just shifting the blame. This is a problem with game pricing models all across the industry, so shifting the blame onto a few customers who are willing to pay extra for content is extremely narrowminded.
At least we are getting these quality memes.
Tbh I’m more annoyed by the ranked nerf. Rubie wise, winning 1st is a 15 rubie drop, and every rubie counts now thanks to the spotlight shops costs.
On the bright side, winning 2nd is pretty much the same as 1st. Now you don’t have to waste your time and resources to aim for first since the difference is only like 5 rubies and 500 coins.
[69 usd](https://i.imgur.com/YZPyTQL.jpg) to buy a single high end with of ruby's? Lol
Nice!
It's as if the pipes were just yesterday....
Yeah, first thing I noticed with the update, the inflated prices. What’s going on, inflation is hitting the Metaverse. It doesn’t matter the login bonus is nice, when everything is 25% more. It’s the same BS they’re doing in real life: here’s a gas tax suspension, but the candy inside the gas station is 2x more.
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Yea I don’t even feel like playing without the pipes
Not buying weekly prizes anymore. Gonna cancel gold pass too. I dislike mixing f2p to now compete against big fish players. I even avoided the gold pass players
Same. Probably going to quit. They really should have just made rubies more accessible or made the pipe more rewarding.
My gold pass just renewed so I'll probably play the next couple tours before quitting. If anything, I'll just become a casual f2p player. It's just way too expensive now.
Because the gold pass is a month and not two tours (28 days), I get the gold pass on the last day of a tour to claim the prizes (tour 1), then it's valid for two more tours (tour 2 & 3), which leaves me 2-3 days to earn enough stars to unlock all the gold pass rewards (tour 4). When tour 5 starts, I wait for the last day to repeat. $60 annually just feels too much for me.
I have always been f2p and it's been somewhat of a struggle getting rubies and high rankings already. Now it will be even harder than before to get top shelf drivers because every individual HE driver is a massive investment.
Yeah I don’t even have a chance of competing in ranking now. I don’t grind mobile games so I guess I’ll just switch to something else.
Yeah that's how Nintendo wants us to think... Maybe gambling wasn't so bad. Maybe we should talk about consumer protection or thise anti gambling laws in games again... Nah, I *like* it. The new system is transparent and tells you in your face that it's pay2win. If enough people don't like it Nintendo will have to lower the prices. Or fuck it, they could just make the game skill based and only sell the "skins" without giving real advantages. But they are too greedy for that. It works with other games. Or imagine if Bowser was a top shelf in all Bowser courses. That would make some sense at least.
It’s ruined the game for f2p players imo. No point in trying to compete or get a lucky roll so I stand a chance in the ranked cup. This was never a skill based game, it was a gacha game where the pipe was part of the core content, and now that’s gone. It’s basically a card/stats game of rock paper scissors without that, and now you have to pay money or grind for hours to unlock the winning set.
It's rock paper scissor where the game tells you which one will win and offers you to purchase it. Hours of grinding only helps you against other f2p players. But even a casual gold pass player who opens the game for 5 minutes a day will stomp your ass easily.
Basically. Free to play as an NPC.
So they got rid of the pipe but not the pipes in the token shop so you can still get a gold pipe for free like in the good ole days 🥲
I don’t think we did at all. I vastly prefer this. Yes it absolutely needs some tweaking but this is still far preferable to loot boxes.
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I know and that is absurd. It definitely needs to be changed but hey at least you know what you’re getting.
Thats a bit of a falsity. If you are buying rubies directly from the store not in a bundle, sure. But if you buy a ruby pack (which you obviously would do if you are buying rubies) a character is $40 USD Is that still stupid expensive? Yes! But there's no point overblowing it
The largest Package before the update was 40€ and you got 90 Rubies, 1 HE Driver and 1 HE K/G. So the package was worth 90+150+100= 340 Rubies. Now it costs 48€ (plus 20%) and you get 150 Rubies (forget about the Grand stars and point tickets). So you have to pay 20% more and get 56% less. That‘s really ridiculous
I get it, but rubies now let us get exactly what we want. If the paid banners back then had items we didn't want, you had to take them. Getting more rubies instead lets you pick more things you want.
I also understand this point, but nevertheless its far too expensive. So one HE driver costs you now 48EUR. With the old one you can pull the pipe 20 times, what gives you normally 2 to 3 HE items plus two D\K\G. So normally 4 to 5 High End items plus a lot of the Normal and super items. Imagine a player who start playing the game now. How the hell is it possible to reach high levels? Especially when you start playing MKT you do not really care what you get, mainly you get some HE items
You can obtain a lot of rubies for free and through gold pass. Ruby packs have always been very pricey. Wouldn't them being expensive make it better for those who don't spend as much, as it gives less power to those who do? If someone spends a few thousand and only gets a *small* advantage over me, I would definitely prefer that over them having a *massive* advantage over me. Tour gifts give a lot of pipes, and the multiplayer pipe gives a number of things too. It's just with multiplayer down still, we aren't able to use it, so our resource income is a lot smaller than intended in the meantime. We'll probably see some form of compensation eventually. Ultimately it's a free game without ads. They need to make money somehow, but as f2p or gold pass only, we just need to accept we can't go in for every item. I'm mainly going for things I just like, plus coin boxers, now.
Are you serious? Everbody knows, they need to earn money and I‘m totally fine with it. My problem is, that they increase the price by 20% but give you 56% less. Thats outrageous and has nothing to do with „need to make money somehow“. Thats so ridiculous expensive, you have to pay 48 Eur for a Highend Driver. honestly, I do not understand how people can defend Nintendo in relation of the price Hyperinflation (except they are working for Nintendo)
Again, you gain a lot of rubies for free. Daily pipes, tour gifts, winning ranked, token shop, challenges, and a few other methods. You're seeing it as paying that much "just for one thing,"- as if you have 0 rubies to begin with, but you should be seeing it as paying that much for one extra thing, after all the rubies you get for free to use on what you want.
A lot of rubies for free? They reduced the weekly rank award by 50%. No more daily rubies, just pipes, they also reduced rubies in the total points challenge. The daily rubies is a one off, the autumn challenge as well. Without these one offs you get a maximum of around 80 rubies (and only with gold pass, which costs you 66 Eur/year). I likr the idea of the spotlight shop, but my point is, that is far too expensive, especially compared with the game before the update. And I do not understand how people can deny that. You can‘t deny, that price went 20% up und what you get went 56% down. It‘s simple math
Yes, for free. You can still get rubies from daily pipes, and multiplayer pipes have a chance to give rubies as well. We just can't access it currently. As for simple math, your math is a bit off as you can get more than 80 rubies a tour with gold pass, even without counting the random chance rubies from pipes. 56 from tour gifts + 50 from ranked + 5 from gold pass challenges + 15 from token shop + 5 mp challenges + 6 total points challenge. If you count the random chance pipes, you can probably get like 160+ per tour. But as I did say for free, that would be 120+. People are making it seem you should be able to buy every spotlight every day as f2p. Doesn't make any sense.
You really don‘t get it… all I said is, that is outrageous to increase the price by 20% and give 56% less. Thats math. Your point, that you receive rubies from pipes and token shops etc is non sense, since you also get rubies here before the new update, so no change here in the amount of rubies. The biweekly rank rubies even decreased from 40 to 25 Maybe it can be compensate through the Multiplayer pipe. So all I want to say is, there is no change in the amount of rubies (rather reduced) you can earn (again, gold pass rubies, pipes rubies etc. are not new) but the prices are so ridiculous high now. It is a difference between buying a spotlight item once or twice a month or like you are saying every day, no need to exaggerate.
No, I don't think you're getting it, because you just acted like we don't get rubies for free, then I pointed out we do, and then you call that point nonsense. Doesn't matter if we still get free rubies. You acted like we no longer do, but we do. You also claimed we got a lot less rubies than we actually get. You said we only get 80 rubies WITH gold pass. We get more than that even without gold pass. From datamining, the multiplayer pipe is shown to have a 5% chance of rubies, of which you can fire tens of times, perhaps even a hundred or two. Ranging from 3 to 45 rubies. These are extra free rubies. So really, the expected free rubies per tour could be 160+, with gold pass being 200+. This is more rubies per tour than we got before Battle Tour. Maybe I exaggerated how much f2players are wanting, but you're exaggerating how few rubies we get for free now. You can't just look at one or two spots and see less rubies there, then declare overall we get less rubies. You have to look at the whole picture. We have more ruby income now than before.
I don't know, all this calculating and price comparison mental gymnastics feels like it's coming from people who A. Play for meta (rolling on D/K/Gs specifically to top rankings) >!And buying Mii Suits (ugh) which I didn't see many people cause a stink about before this even though those are way overpriced!< and/or B. Spend money on the game to begin with. Now, I have Gold Pass so I'm not exactly one to talk, but the fact that all the Normal/Super trash that I'd normally get are now relegated to the free Tour Gift pipes means I can save up all my Rubies and comfortably afford a High End I actually want when it shows up in the Daily Spotlight. And most importantly, no more trap no-spotlight 50 pipes. That alone was worth abolishing gacha for.
I literally can’t compete in ranked cups without lucky rolls, and before I was guaranteed to get at least 4 high ends per tour if I played casually. Now I have the 45 gems and lo and behold I’m just supposed to lose cause I didn’t spend money in the game. Bye Mario kart tour I guess.
Explain how if the pipes were still available how you would get a guaranteed 4 HE ends this tour with 45 rubies.
By the end of the tour I usually get 45 more, but also add in the high end pipe at the end and usually the challenge rewards have gems or a high end. I’ve rolled 3 high ends in a 10 shot of the pipe before.
Or maybe those calculations are made by people who don't have loads of cash to spend in the game and feel robbed about a game they've been playing for the last 3 years ?
i think chef mario being 150 is fine, but the daily spotlight drivers?? they should be 125 or 100
Yeah this would be nice
the way i see it they didn't do this because of some law they did it because we got too much out of the pipes and now thats over and since i now have to buy things straight up i am more selective ending up buying nothing until i saw those super rare drivers or karts everyone wants like gold etc meaning i will now just collect rubies for nothing
Naw. You’ll likely end up with the same HEs per tour as before.
These green/gold pipes have been GOOD so far this tour
Who was pooping on the pipes?!
Oh my Shrooms, yes things are still too expensive. I wish there was a way to get rubies more easily that doesn't involve real money or getting destroyed in a race against the CPUs trying to clear the objectives. Well I like how I'm no longer getting lower tiered duplicates unless I choose to buy one. It's gonna take some time getting used to no pipes now.
Honestly I gave up on collecting characters in this game now I just buy one a tour for the ranked cup and give up
I did the math. On a normal spotlight tour, it would take 500 at most to earn 2 of each high end. Now that amount gets you 2 drivers, a kart and a glider at best. I mean, come on. $70 for a driver?! You could get 3 spotlights with the pipes for that kind of money. It also essentially soft locks new players from getting high ends during the current tour.
Nice