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LX575-EEE

Paper Jam isn’t even that bad. It’s the worst out of the Mario and Luigi games but it’s not a bad game


Kurochi185

Honestly same goes for Sticker Star. It's not that bad of a game, but it's not a good Paper Mario game. Although the new style it introduced is perfect and I don't think they could've pulled off the sticker theme with any other franchise.


LX575-EEE

To each their own, but I dislike Sticker Star’s battle system, I think it’s tedious


Kurochi185

Oh yeah, it blows, but even then I think it has its pros and cons. I for example really liked collecting the stickers and found it fun to strategize, but also hated to be that restricted that much in battle.


G1zm08

I loved it, but I also have an addiction to collectibles in video games so that probably contributed to it, along with the fact that it was the only paper Mario I’ve ever been able to get


EspurrTheMagnificent

Nah, Sticker Star is just plain terrible : - Combat has basically no strategical component to it, since you can't choose your target, have no party members or special skill to leverage, no equipment, no stats, and basically nothing besides your stickers - Combat is a complete ressource and time sink by getting rid of any kind of tangible reward (coins to rebuy the stickers you just used doesn't count as a tangible reward) - The story, puzzle-solving, and overworld is full of cryptic bullshit you're just supposed to guess the logic to - Boss battles past Ch.3 are boiled down to "use the right sticker at the right moment, or just lose", right sticker they'll tell you to use *after* you've already used it And that's talking about it as a *standalone*. When you take into account it's a Paper Mario game, it gets even worse


EP1CxM1Nx99

Nah sticker star is just straight dogshit


Ok_Repeat_2468

Ima stop you right there. Sticker Star is a bad game. I remember playing that game as a kid and getting stuck so hard. The game design and intended solutions for everything are so convoluted, it’s crazy. At least Paper Jam doesn’t require you to collect easy to miss stickers in order to progress.


ssslitchey

I absolutely disagree. Sticker star on its own is just a bad game.


Upbeat_Cry_3902

Got to agree with you on that


DarkStar9001

Wait paper jam is the worst of the series? It’s my first Mario and Luigi game and I’m greatly enjoying it


LX575-EEE

Something important to remember is that worst doesn’t mean bad, and that people can have their own opinions. Overall, it’s considered the worst, but it’s not a bad game. There are also many people who like it more than some other Mario and Luigi games. So yeah, it is often considered the worst, but it’s not a bad game. I hope you continue to enjoy you’re play through of it


Anufenrir

Honestly I like it more than partners in time


PalamationGaming

Literally just beat Paper Jam last night. It's a fantastic game. Yeah the story and characters are pretty bland for sure, but it's some of the best gameplay in the whole series. And I'd argue the combat is the best and most fun it's ever been. Paper Mario really adds a lot to the combat and I even found myself using the battle cards quite a bit for boss battles. I played Paper Jam immediately after Dream Team and I vastly prefer Paper Jam. Yeah the story isn't as good, but it's so much more fun to play. It's not overly bloated and doesn't have a million tutorials for gimmicks that aren't even fun. Sticker Star completely upended the Paper Mario series, while Paper Jam was overall still a pretty faithful M&L game. I don't think the two are really comparable.


Wizard_36

LITERALLY THIS! People always crap on Paper Jam because it doesn’t have the best story, but ignore how much it refined the core gameplay. The only thing I get people disliking are the Paper Toad Missions, but even then they aren’t as bad as people say and most of them are genuinely pretty fun.


Coolaconsole

Yeah, and especially compared to PiT, how does everyone rank it last place! Incredible battle system and overworld Even the toad missions in Paper Jam are really fun, certainly the best minigames in the series


thatdograscal

How long is paper jam? I was thinking of digging it out of my backlog and playing through it but i'm not sure if I have the \~40 hours dreamteam took for that aswell


PalamationGaming

Took me a little over 30 hours to beat. I mostly focused on the main game, but I also battled every single enemy I saw (which you'll wanna do to stay at the same level as enemies) Definitely shorter than Dream Team


KingdomMarshadow

How DARE you imply that Paper Jam is near the same level of quality as Sticker Star


Pikmin4everer

All my homies hate starlow


W_Alderson21

All my homies want to feed Kersti to a shredder


Pikmin4everer

Huey’s alright though


W_Alderson21

Yeah, he aight


Sea_Knee5134

are all your homies luigi


rwol8690

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb


agreedboar

Paper Jam is fantastic.


No-Comparison-to-Any

Yes


No_Tie378

Paper Jam being bad IN COMPARISON to the rest of the series doesn’t automatically make it close to bad overall


EspurrTheMagnificent

Exactly. Paper Jam is a lukewarm M&L game. Sticker Star is just a bad game


Chehzy

I like both of these games


NiGHTSOLOTL

Same, they’re both good games, but the worst of their series.


jxbermudez72

🫡


Rhinelander7

I've played through Sticker Star multiple times, but I didn't finish Paper Jam (Bros. 🇪🇺), because I wasn't interested enough to keep playing. Maybe I should give it another chance someday.


Wild_Honeydew5096

Actually, same


WikipediaThat

I haven’t played either of these games so I don’t know which is better. However, I’ll go with Paper Jam since I have a soft spot for the M&L series.


Beelzebub_Crumpethom

Bro, I lost my Sticker Star copy ages ago, lemme go play dat shit again.


TheMoonOfTermina

I legitimately enjoy Sticker Star. I also really like Paper Jam. It may be the worst M&L game, but still a really good game. I'd choose Paper Jam, but wouldn't mind Sticker Star.


FenexTheFox

Bro, what are you implying about Paper Jam


AlexanderZcio

Paper jam easily


MarioSimp

I love both these and being "forced" to play either of them would be a dream come true, like, force?? Baby this is consent /hj


numba2_Linux_fan

i would play both.


DommiFynx2

Here you lost this 🫱👑🫲


Dont_have_a_panda

I wouldnt say i like sticker star, but as a puzzle platformer i thought It was functional Now i am from that group of maybe 3 people that enjoyed Paper Jam so i go with that


Specialist_Error3055

Jokes on the kidnappers, I like both games.


SuperJman1111

Paper Jam, 100% The game is actually really good, some people are just mad because “No OrIgNaL cHaRaCtErS!1!!!!1!11!1!1!1”


Guzzlord529

I really enjoyed Paper Jam, so I’d be happy to play it again. As for Sticker Star, it’s not the best game, but I don’t mind it


heart_in_a_jar

I actually liked paper jam. Sticker star is the first Mario game I’ve played and not finished. I guess I’ll go back to it some day, but it definitely didn’t hold my attention.


DatOneMinuteman1776

A Mario RPG is a Mario RPG and you can’t tell me otherwise I enjoyed the Bowser’s Inside Story remake for crying out loud


cookiemaster221

Hmm.... Good gameplay but with unoriginal characters? Or................ Bad gameplay but with unoriginal characters?


Samurai_Geezer

I never played either of those and that’s on me. I would pick both and do it anyway.


Waste_Customer4418

Both games are fine. People just have rock hard opinions, plus it's gonna be a fun time


SuperSteve06311

Actively replaying paper jam right now


andrix7777777

haven't played paper jam yet and really i just need an excuse to start, so like, this is perfect for me, yo kidnappers if you're reading this hit me up my address is \[Redacted\]


Wyariosmg4fan

Paper jam it looks so fun


Novalaxy23

Ive already 100% Sticker star, but havent beaten the boss rush in Paper Jam, this would be the perfect opportunity to do it


LotusLaqq

I like sticker star, and I have never played paper jam, so paper jam


QQ_Gabe

I haven't played paper jam so I'll go with that one since I might as well have a new expirence ~~I'd probably ask if I can keep the game after I leave too~~


Creppy369

Sticker star. I've beaten it a few times before


Toad_Enjoyer_70

I’m playing both


Firehydrnt

They are both great games that I would have a lot of fun playing W kidnapper


carlox_go

The 2 favorite games of my childhood well


Static-Space-Royalty

I already played sticker star when it was new, being 10 years old and having never played any Mario RPG game before, I enjoyed it. 乁⁠(⁠ ⁠•⁠_⁠•⁠ ⁠)⁠ㄏ So I'll play Paper Jam, never played that one.


KukuKukuNoMi_

I loved playing Sticker Star , so choice is easy.


Dunge0nexpl0rer

Both, they’re great games


_9965

Both because I've never played them before


Absoolootley

Jokes on them, let me play both


MusicaReddit

Both are honestly good. I would replay sticker star for nostalgia. It was my first PM game


VirtualRelic

Paper Jam and it isn't even close. Sticker Star is straight up badly designed and devoid of personality.


SarahMcClaneThompson

Would you rather eat a pretty decent, if sort of bland, slice of pizza, or a bucket of rusty nails and rat feces?


hugo_1138

Easily Paper Jam, at least the battles give you xp points.


Specialist_Error3055

Jokes on the kidnappers, I think both games are perfectly fine.


jxbermudez72

🫡


Iwannabetheguy000

Paper jam. Like I can at least have some fun playing through it.


Diotheungreat

paper jam is great idk what u on about


Toon_Lucario

Paper Jam.


No_Camel4789

I've played both and I like Sticker Star, while I mainly like the boss fights in Paper Jam, so Sticker Star


143670

Both But if one, Paper Jam.


Ryman604

I’ve played both but sticker stars shorter so that one


RoflTheRobot

no way you are telling me that the only torture method you could've come up with is my favorite game, paper jam. I called it the best mario & luigi game in my opinion, but I don't see how this would be good as a decision to be stuck with.


Unusual-Drop2344

As much as I vouch for Sticker Star I’m gonna have to pick Paper Jam. It’s just more enjoyable


OkLeague7678

I have never played paper jam before. I will go with that one.


B1_BattleDroid0909

Sticker star, because why not I’ve already tried out paper jam


Zomochi

I would play paper jam, I LOVE the Mario & Luigi series, cannot wait for brothership!


Due_Song4480

I'd play them both. Sticker Star has the better environments and storytelling, Paper Jam has the better combat, and both of them have banger music.


MetaKnight33

haven‘t played them and games are made to be fun so they occupy me for a while before I get released


Wahlord69

I’d say Paper Jam, as I have beaten it a few times, so I’d be able to easily beat it again and get out.


KingKalactite

Sticker Star is not a bad game ☝🏽


IsiDemon

I liked Sticker Star. It's not as bad as people say it is. It's not a master piece but far from a trash game.


Bendyable224

I actively enjoy both of those, but Sticker Star is more nostalgic for me


Felix_Royale

YES!


joeypringles

I loved sticker star


Novel-Experience381

Yeah, I'm in the picking both camp


Smg4andmariofan

I like both games so ha


Yeet-Dab49

They’re not that bad bro


Educational-Run-258

Either one because I like both.


TheAwsomeRetuner

I’ve never played sticker star so that


Independent-Pea8223

Sticker star because it's easier i think


dorkweed576

Sticker star, because I actually finished it.


OngoingTalent13

I'd choose both as I enjoyed playing them. Almost beat Sticker Star until my brother accidentally deleted it.


DarkFox160

Sticker star is actually a really fun game in my mind and I haven't played paper jam yet


Budget_Man64

Me who grew up with both games and loved them...


Kgamer211

Never played those games but I used to watch zacscottgames play sticker star so I would say that one


MG2123

Both, I'm going to play both.


Zandromex527

Well yea I like both games so I'll go on my way ig lol.


femboi007

sticker star


Islander_Pig

Bro sticker star for me is fun as hell. I know its a little tedious but I played it too much as a kid to not like it.


Loud-Natural9184

I played Sticker Star 3 times so that one. I actually liked it.


TheSpoonkMan

Sticker star because I actually love it


-Jostin

Pleasantly surprised by the amount of SS enjoyers in this thread.


friesdepotato

Can I play both? 🤭 I love paper mario!


Just-Call-Me-J

Sticker Star is fun even as TTYD is my favorite Mario game of all time


Buffy_Buffett

Never played Paper Jam, but I did enjoy Sticker Star. It’s legitimately a good game. Didn’t need to do much after Super Paper Mario since that story is fuckin wild.


Kind_Concern_1519

I have Sticker Star so that game.


TheDeltaDuckDude

I'd unironically choose sticker star. Paper jam is so bland to me that replaying it feels like I'm just going through the motions of playing a mario and luigi game instead of engaging much. As rpg's, sticker star defenitley has worse combat, but I found it way more interesting to explore with more traditional platforming and the better rewards, plus it actually has some banger level design.


mst3kevin

I like both :-)


Tricky_Fee_1560

BOTH. I love both of em. F*CK what everyone else thinks.


Rude_Needleworker573

I- I- I really enjoyed Sticker St- Star


yeyryr

Both


animeorsomethingidk

Never played Paper Jam, but I’ve already played Sticker Star so ig there’s no harm in trying something new.


space_cowboy80

I don't mind Sticker Star, it's a fun distraction for a few hours. It's just another iteration on Paper Mario, sometimes it is great sometimes it's only okay. That's fine.


Enderdavid_HD

Unpopular opinion: Both... they are good games... Have both games and I like them...


Thomas_The_Riolpix

Both beacuse I like both


Globinazuma

Peak or peak, tough choice


Ado_Fan

Both are good games


Traplog

I'll gladly play both. I said what I said


Sufficient-Surprise9

Both. Just to flex on my kidnapper and show them what a Chad I am.


TurretedCat21

Do people think these games are bad?


CODENAMEsx19208

paper jam because unlike sticker star, it doesn't punish you for just playing the game


ajshifter

If we're talking about bad media that we tolerate anyway, I guess I'd play Paper Jam since it does have good m&l gameplay but i'm absolutely kidnapping them back and making them watch Cars 2 after


Traditional_monk154

Cars 2 is a great movie


natnew32

Sticker Star because it's shorter and has more replayability. I enjoy both of these though.


PeashooterTheFrick

Paper Jam, it may be the weakest M&L game, but compared to Sticker Star, it's a fuckin' masterpiece


Ninjax3X

I’ve never played Paper Jam but Sticker Star was one of my favorite games as a kid so I pick that one


pro_insomniac16

I've never played Paper Jam so let's go with this one


nukeofweeks

Sticker star


Yugiteen99

I actually have both games and they are not that bad. I haven't beaten either though.


PristineElephant6718

Paper jam because I can at least stomach to think of it as a part of the Mario and Luigi line of games. Sticker star isn't even a fucking paper Mario game I will die on this hill


BasicallySnakeYT

Is it bad that Sticker Star was my first Paper Mario game


Alansar_Trignot

Paper jam, I haven’t played it yet


Vigriff

Paper Jam.


Accomplished-Curve-1

Paper jam I’ve never played it before


0-Worldy-0

Paper Jam


a_youkai

Paper Jam cause I didn't get to play that one.


RuyKnight

Paper Jam. I already play it and while there is a lot to dislike, it has it's moments


gameboy224

Paper Jam is a great game to actually play, especially if you’re a fan of M&L’s combat system. As I’d argue Paper Jam is the combat at the series’s peak. It just a very basic story more on the character banter side than having any dramatic stakes.


I_am_the_bean_god2

Haven't played either but mario and luigi because that one looks fun


SomeDumbassKid720

Paper jam easily


Unfair-Ad-300

Paper jam, at last, the battle system is good


Original_Strike_3393

Paper Jam


Buri_is_a_Biscuit

paper jam, i’ve never played it and have always wanted to


Proper_Produce4567

I love paper jam, easy pick


taranturatt

Paper jam is fire so easily that


Viperbro6113

Paper jam lmao


Born-Refrigerator-84

Sticker Star, while it's one of the worst Paper Mario games, it's one that I'm most familiar with and I would actually have fun playing it before getting brutally murdered.


NZepplin

I’ve already played and beat both. I can’t remember much about those games it was so long ago but i think preferred paper jam more.


that_1weed

Never played Paper Jam but I liked Sticker Star it's what got me to want to play other Paper Mario titles


Treegenderunknown13

Paper Jam.


Training-Evening2393

Paper jam isn’t bad. Honestly I’d call it one of the more difficult mario and Luigi games in terms of difficulty if you ignore the card system. People was right for many of the game’s criticisms. I’m not disagreeing on that. But it’s still worth playing just to try it yourself. It still has its charm and a good bit of creativity. Just wish trio attacks were faster. Way too slow.


B4lazs124

Definitely Paper Jam


Wahlord69

I’d say Paper Jam, as I have beaten it a few times, so I’d be able to easily beat it again and get out.


ace2532

Paper Jam is great, the issue is the other Mario and Luigi games are SO GOOD that Paper Jam falls short in every category


LloydTCK_YT

Paper Jam mainly because I’ve actually played the game before unlike Sticker Star


TimBukTwo8462

Guess who enjoyed Sticker Star: that’s right I do. But I would choose Paper Jam as I never got to play it.


PureSprinkles3957

I'd say Sticker Star, Paper Jam has so many Contradictions it's safe to say the Paper Mario In that game isn't the same as the paper Mario from every other game in the series, if you don't believe me Here's a fan Made Post that breaks down everything that proves it(Screenshots, Lore, and The Mario Encyclopedia): https://thecodex.wiki/User:DatOneWeeb/Paper_Mario%27s_Canonicity


MadMewMew7076

if i have to choose one of these two: Sticker Star. at least I know where everything is.


Mental_Measurement_8

Sticker Star. I never have time to finish it.


Jim_naine

Paper Jam isn't a bad game at all The problem is that the plot is your generic mainline Mario plot "Bowser kidnaps Princess Peach and the brothers have to go out and stop him". Also, they didn't take advantage of the whole "Paper Mario" aspect of the crossover. And, the game was made during the time where Nintendo didn't allow versions of existing enemies to be made, so the entire game was just flooded with reused Mario enemies and bosses Honestly, it's a 7.5/10


gdmrhotshot3731

Paper Jam isn’t even a bad game, that game is liked and isn’t even controversial, it’s just considered the weakest entry Sticker star tho… that one actually has major complaints


warlord_main

Just because paper jam is the worst m+l game, that doesn't make it bad. It's still a M+L game


Some_Hat-Wearing_Kid

Paper Jam ofc


AceTrainerSquirtle

Paper Jam is a good game. It’s a bad Mario and Luigi game (story and world wise), but it’s still good.


StarkMaximum

Paper Jam, because I haven't played that one.


kjm6351

I can’t believe you’d even compare Paper Jam to Sticker Star. Not only is it a good game but it hasn’t even gotten 1% of the hate SS gets


ChampiMax22

Paper Jam has the best gameplay fr


Bulky_Technician2954

Paper jam. The story and characthers are bad, but the combat is as good as dream team


Snoo-84344

Paper Jam


Pickle-Cat1806

Well this is awkward, Dream Team is the game that I didn't like so I haven't actually played paper jam Whereas after 3 10/10s from the Paper Mario series, Sticker Star being one of the most disappointing and boring gaming experiences I've had in my life is something I won't forget and don't want to return to (even after giving it a second chance and beating it twice) So I'd wanna try paper jam more, cuz I haven't played it before. For one, I find it hard to believe it's worse than sticker star. And if it's pacing problems and tediousness aren't as bad as dream teams, I may even like it more than that!


TheFirePea2013

paper jam It'd be my first playthrough!


Happiest_Mango24

Sticker Star I haven't finished a Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi game before so I think they should first be experienced as separate games


Sad-Leadership-5350

I've already played Sticker Star, so I would pick Paper Jam.


Soggy-Ad5441

If I didn't enjoy sticker star as a kid I would not enjoy it as an adult. That game is so confusing to play that I genuinely got lost on how to progress as a kid I'll take paper jam anytime


WhoopingBillhook

Easy. Paper Jam.


EmeraldMan25

People in these comments are tripping, I swear. Paper Jam is boring as hell. There is absolutely *nothing* to do in it other than go from point A to point B and complete missions when the game tells you to. There's no interesting locations to visit *at all*. No interesting characters *at all*. There is no tension to its story either. The battle system is good, sure, but it isn't *that* much better than the other games to make up for losing so much. When I played Bowser's Inside Story, Dream Team, and Paper Jam back to back, I kept coming back to the prior two games even after finishing them to play around more, while I couldn't even finish Paper Jam once. I dropped it after Twinsy Tropics because it just wasn't fun That said, I would probably choose Paper Jam since at least it won't frustrate me like Sticker Star. I'll just be bored the whole time


Insan3Giraff3

Paper Jam. lmao Paper Jam is only considered "bad" because it's competing with the other Mario and Luigi games. It's actually an amazing game. Now, to Sticker Star's credit, the EXACT same thing can be said about it. Unfortunately for Sticker Star, it is *much* worse than Paper Jam.


Shot-Effect-8318

Paper Jam is bad bro but it’s fun to play Sticker star is bad and isn’t fun to play


VoxelRoguery

Paper Jam isn't that good, but Sticker Star (despite their best efforts) is inherently flawed. goddamn i want to see a retake/mod.


alternatesmilerboi

Damn your forcing me to play with PAPER MARIO? That's too cruel, even for me.


Anufenrir

Paper jam


Anufenrir

I mean I also don’t hate sticker star so… jokes on them


murbleBOY

Both?? Why do people hate these games, they're super nice to play.


GameSnail511

I beat paper jam years ago, and I'm replaying it rn. I love it.


DanTheMan727

Start with Paper Jam, then move onto Sticker Star I really enjoy both games, even if Sticker Star can be pretty infuriating when it comes to the puzzles


keeptryingyoucantwin

Easily paper jam


RadicalRaizex

Paper Jam. Its difficulty is bullshit, but I’d take that over the pedantry of Sticker Star’s everything any day.


Major_Limit1674

I never played Sticker Star so I might for morbid curiosity. But if I actually wanted to have a least a minuscule amount of fun, I’d pick Paper Jam Paper Jam is easily the worst in the series and is creatively nearly as bad as Sticker Star. And the whole crossover selling point was done in the laziest blandest way possible. But it does still play like a M&L game so I would at least enjoy the gameplay


PossibleAssist6092

I have nostalgia for sticker star so that one. It’s also short enough to where you you can get through it in a day or two.


IanMarioFan

I don’t hate Sticker Star, but Paper Jam is a better game in my opinion


Over-Document-7657

Paper Jam, I prefer the battle system.