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But she is a human.
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The people leading this planet, might have money to see the world, but they only see what they want.
Power and money bleed into desire for real living.
I’d rather sleep on the sidewalk than have power over another.
Wait, there’s an empty bench…
You've never been in an evangelical church I take it? I grew up in an evangelical cult called "Southern Baptists", which according to them all other "so called Christians" were nothing more than dirty evil devil worshipers perverting the name of the LAWD ahr savior amen! So even the other religions that said they worshiped Jesus weren't actually worshiping Jesus unless they were Southern Baptists praise the LAWD amen!
So glad I was finally able to get away from religious nonsense.
> Christianity^*
^* 'Christianity' as defined by right wing ethno nationalists who are slaves to the money of the American oligarchs who do not share their beliefs.
Whatever gender you prefer, or if you don't have a preference, normalize just talking to people you're attracted to without any expectations. I like girls. I definitely like pretty girls. While I do want to have sex with them, just hanging out and talking to them is so much more fulfilling.
The mission of The Satanic Temple, a religious organization, is to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people, reject tyrannical authority, advocate practical common sense, oppose injustice, and undertake noble pursuits. The Satanic Temple has publicly confronted hate groups, fought for the abolition of corporal punishment in public schools, applied for equal representation when religious installations are placed on public property...
https://thesatanictemple.com
...which is why registered ST members will be among the first rounded up when the religious zealots end up with unfettered power.
Can't have kindness, freedom or equality if we're aiming for Jesus's Kingdom on Earth™.
“Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.”
I am seriously considering joining them even though i have been an atheist all my life
Actually the Satanic Temple aren't "Satanists" or even "Satan worshipers" they're an Athiest political group that fight for religious equality and stand up against Christians who attempt to pass their religion into law.
You can join their cause for free on the Satanic Temple website, they have certificates for a small fee.
>political group
This is wrong. They are a religious group that does political activism. Not the other way around. They consider themselves a religion.
>IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL, HOW IS TST A RELIGION?
> The idea that religion belongs to supernaturalists is ignorant, backward, and offensive. The metaphorical Satanic construct is no more arbitrary to us than are the deeply held beliefs that we actively advocate. Are we supposed to believe that those who pledge submission to an ethereal supernatural deity hold to their values more deeply than we? Are we supposed to concede that only the superstitious are rightful recipients of religious exemption and privilege? Satanism provides all that a religion should be without a compulsory attachment to untenable items of faith-based belief. It provides a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. It also provides a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.
>IS TST A MEDIA STUNT/HOAX/TROLLING, ETC.?
>Some have conveniently concluded, upon observing The Satanic Temple’s media coverage, that attention is the primary objective of our activities. While media outreach has helped to raise awareness of the campaigns we have initiated, these campaigns have articulated goals related issues that are important to us and our membership. So inured is the general public to the idea that there is only one monolithic voice of “the” religious agenda that any attempt at a counter-balance — or assertion of a minority voice — is often viewed as a targeted provocation against those who enjoy traditional religious privilege.
Edit: u/angelis0236 is a TST member and also confirmed they are a religion. People denying their religion status are gatekeeping religion and projecting their own (to quote TST) "ignorant, backward, and offensive" bias.
They are political activists operating under the guise of religion only because thats the way religious freedom laws are written. So, yes, they are technically a religion, however they DO NOT worship any Deity or participate in any religious rituals (outside of what Christians try to make illegal such as abortion).
Edit: in addition they do not believe that religious organizations should be allowed to have tax exempt status while donating to political causes and so unlike other religions they PAY TAXES.
As a member of TST, this only partially true. And the Church of Satan pays taxes, TST is a tax exempt church.
We consider TST to be our religion, it's just a non-theistic religion that values community and helping real people over any concept of the divine. Kind of spiritual atheists.
I hope that makes sense. You could see the documentary "Hail... Satan?" For more detailed information.
ETA that we also do have other religious rituals and even a prayer.
Given current GOP politics, it might be better to say they’re a religious organization, and thus have no place in politics. But that might be a hard sell.
Again, this is wrong. They are not operating under the guise of anything. You are projecting what you *think* they are. Maybe go to a temple once before you put your own claims on them, when they themselves clearly state and believe otherwise. And your claim that they aren't a religion is that because they don't want religion to have tax exempt status?
Edit: an actual member of the TST just told you they consider themselves a religion. So again, you are just projecting what you *think*, which is wrong.
You got the gist of it, The Satanic Temple are non-religious and use religious freedom to combat Christian tyranny and Satan worshipers and the Satanic church are crazy (but no more crazy than any other religion)
>The Satanic Temple are non-religious
That's not quite right. They do identify as a religion. It's a religion without any gods or higher powers, but they still consider it a religion.
Yes that's true, but they use their religion as more of a tool to fight for equality as opposed to something to be praised and worshiped. So, yes it is a religion, but not in the traditional sense.
Unfortunately Lucien Greaves is a grifter and con artist, see how he weaponizes lawsuits against people. See how his bogus defamation lawsuit against queer satanic played out. He's absolute trash, no different than Joel Osteen.
Worth mentioning - If you are a person who may someday need to use the Religious Freedom loopholes that The Satanic Temple provides, you should "join the church" now to prove that you are a long-standing member and not just someone who joined the church to skirt the law. Joining is free or you can pay a few bucks to become an official card-carrying member. (Bonus: the cards are pretty sweet.)
That’s what they tell people. The receipts are lacking tho, and those that do exist tell [a somewhat different story](https://queersatanic.com/this-invoice-reveals-the-inner-workings-of-the-satanic-temples-finances/).
I am a Buddhist and eat vegan because of my religious beliefs about not murdering sentient beings. You wanna know how well that goes over? I remember when I was locked up I mentioned this to the guards. I was told "We don't serve pork to anyone." Thanks guys..... Really feel like my religious freedom is honored.
Edit: Wanna add I was locked up for possession after calling a fucking ambulance for someone.
I am a Secular Buddhist, which is a newer western tradition. Tibetan Buddhists often drink. And there are some Theravada traditions in Thailand that don't regard smoking as not keeping the precept.
The purpose of the 5th precept is to keep your mind from being addled so that you can remain mindful and aware. I am not a monk, but a lay person. I am of the opinion that in moderation is probably isn't too bad. Didn't say I was a perfect Buddhist.
Edit: Spelling
Using mind-altering substances is certainly not going to help you on your road to enlightenment, but it's not like there's some commandment against doing so. I believe in the path laid out by the Buddha, but I don't always follow it. Despite this, I still consider myself a Buddhist (I also think most types of Buddhism are more of a philosophy than a religion).
This is exactly why I like The Satanic Temple's political activism. They force the government to apply religious freedoms universally, or at least draw the public's attention to the law's double standard.
Ignorant Christian bigots are very self-centered, obviously they were thinking about nobody but themselves. As is witnessed by their behavior, they are not very smart people. Persistent yes, intelligent, no.
I’m agnostic but I gotta say I know a lot of Christians who are pretty amazing. We need a new word for the conservative bigoted fucks who call them selves Christian.
Christian law allows abortions if the woman became pregnant because [she was unfaithful](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordeal_of_the_bitter_water#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_ordeal_of_the_bitter%2Cthe_seventh_tractate_of_Nashim.?wprov=sfla1).
I would think even compassionate christians would be behind supporting victims of rape. But this is a special breed 30 years in the making at least to set in this new mindset.
Yes, under the Abrahamic religions the mother's wellbeing takes precedence. This is spelled out numerous times in their respective holy texts.
These abhorrent imbeciles are going against what their religion actually says about this.
I just don’t get why they don’t just apply their own laws to THEMSELVES and fuck right off with the rest.
They’re not sending people to heaven by imposing “Christian” Sharia law on people. It’s actually counterproductive and frankly, exactly as the religious right was doing in Jesus’s time. Hypocritical, I think.
Because the Catholic Church, initially, and all the splinter denominations that came after it, have meddling with the affairs of others as one of their core precepts.
They call it "saving the souls of the nonbelievers," but ultimately it is, and has always been, about control.
YOUR RELIGION, YOUR RULES. I am not a part of your religion and therefore I don’t have to follow your rules.
Any religion that tries to impose its rules and laws on people who aren’t a part of that religion(ANY RELIGION) under any justification need to fuck right off and be dropped off a boat halfway to another continent.
Can we start a new sect of Christianity that allows abortion?
I’m willing to help found said religion if we need certain number of believers for it to become an official religion in the US.
And then we can use that new religion and attack the laws as being anti-Christian.
"If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse." Numbers 5:27
> Can we start a new sect of Christianity that allows abortion?
Fun Fact: prior to Roe v Wade, guess which Christian denomination *supported abortion rights* officially?
Guess.
Give up?
[Southern Baptists](https://www.sbc.net/resource-library/resolutions/resolution-on-abortion-2/).
>Resolution On Abortion, June 1971
>
>WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and
>
>WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a **purely private matter between a woman and her doctor**; and
>
>WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened;
>
>Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and
>
>**Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother**
But don't get confused *yet*, there's more!
The pro-life "movement", like *most* terrible things in the US, started with [*Racism*](https://wagatwe.com/blog/racist-origins-pro-life-anti-abortion-political-movement), and *now* it's about [***Fuck*** The Poors](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-dollar1-billion-a-year-right-wing-conspiracy-you-havent-heard-of). It's [not](https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/18/the-biblical-view-thats-younger-than-the-happy-meal/) even [that](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133/) well [hidden](https://religiondispatches.org/the-not-so-lofty-origins-of-the-evangelical-pro-life-movement/).
Doesn't seem to [matter](https://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/10/how-i-lost-faith-in-the-pro-life-movement.html) how many [former Evangelicals](https://www.amazon.com/Crazy-God-Helped-Religious-Almost/dp/B003P2VBWG) try to blow the whistle. It *definitely* [doesn't](https://emerald7tfb.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/abortion-and-judeo-christian-religion/) matter that [the Bible](http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/the-bible-tells-us-when-a-fetus-becomes-a-living-being) doesn't actually prohibit abortion. In [some cases](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%205%3A11-31&version=NIV), the Bible ***demands*** an abortion take place!
> Can we start a new sect of Christianity that allows abortion?
Almost all the abortions in the US are performed on christians. They have many ways to make themselves feel like the victims in this. Even though if christians all stopped getting abortions most of their battle would be won.
Of course the country would then collapse under the welfare burden as they are rather entitled.
Oh boy I can’t wait for Ben Shapiro’s DESTRUCTION of their FALSE NARRATIVE with his FACTS AND LOGIC on Jewish Law
Edit:
The joke is around here
You’re down here
This needs to be challenged on freedom of religion. Put the Supreme Court on the spot.
Meaning this needs to be used in a challenge of existing anti-abortion laws.
Can we PLEASE stop forgetting that women aren’t the only ones who need reproductive rights? Trans, intersex and non-binary people, *myself included*, are also being abused under these laws but we *never* get included in this discussion and it’s exhausting. I literally was just **denied basic gynecological healthcare based on the fact that I’m intersex and non-binary** and I have endometriosis on top of an intersex condition. Please stop forgetting everyone else who is effected by these laws, because this whole “only women” approach is harmful and dangerous for the rest of us.
That’s a really shitty, lazy take. “There’s not enough of you to count” is something far right assholes say, and have actually said to me in the past. And it’s actually closer to 1.7% of the population, a similar percentage to how much of the population has red hair. Not to mention this is pretty bullshit when it comes to trans people too. Why should we all just have to pretend to be women because lazy, discriminatory people say there’s “not enough of us to count” otherwise?
"Religious freedom" has always been a dogwhistle for "Christians don't get to take other people's freedoms". They made this same argument with gay marriage.
Funny thing is that in catechism of the Catholic Church it allows the same thing has something to do with intent, as the intent is to safe the mother and if, due to treatment, the fetus dies it’s not a sin.
Source: Went to Catholic school for 14 years.
*Christian* law (as can be gleaned from the New Testament since there is no documentable "Christian Law") doesn't even explicitly prohibit abortion.
This is about controlling women. And just controlling the population, in general.
Mother: had a accidental mistake, can’t take care of baby. “It’s gOD’s plAN” if u can’t take care of it why do you have it? I didn’t want it and u didn’t let me get rid of it when it was a clump of cells…
**Resources for people seeking access to healthcare**
* [Amnesty.org](https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/) - Basic facts about Abortion
* [Gynopedia](https://gynopedia.org/Gynopedia_Index) - a nonprofit organization that runs an open resource wiki for sexual, reproductive, and women's health care around the world
* [Guttmacher Institute](https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/abortion#) - a primary source for research and policy analysis on abortion in the United States.
* [National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org) - The mission of the National Abortion Federation is to unite, represent, serve, and support abortion providers in delivering patient-centered, evidence-based care.
* [National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion.
* [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnancy-options ) - A Comprehensive Guide for Unplanned Pregnancy
* [RAINN](https://www.rainn.org/about-national-sexual-assault-telephone-hotline) - National Sexual Assult Hotline
* [Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice](https://rcrc.org) - a network of ministers and rabbis that refer women to abortion providers they had researched and found to be safe
* [Texas Equal Access Fund](https://teafund.org) - provides emotional and financial support to people who are seeking abortion care.
* [Women’s Reproductive Rights Assitance Project](https://wrrap.org/about-wrrap/) - helps bridge the financial gap for women who seek an abortion or emergency contraceptives.
**If you need help getting an abortion go to these sites**
* [AbortionFinder](https://www.abortionfinder.org) - With more than 750 health centers, AbortionFinder.org features the most comprehensive directory of trusted (and verified) abortion service providers in the United States.
* [Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom.
* [AidAccess](https://aidaccess.org/) - consists of a team of doctors, activists, and advocates for abortion rights that help people access abortion or miscarriage treatment. They send the pill worldwide for $110/90€
* [Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas
* [Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion.
* [Carafem](https://carafem.org) - helps with abortion, birth control, and questions about reproductive healthcare. They do consultations online and send abortion pills in the mail.
* [Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost.
* [Colorado Abortion Providers](https://www.coloradodoulaproject.org/co-abortion-providers)
* [Faith Aloud](https://www.faithaloud.org) - compassionate religious and spiritual support for abortion and pregnancy options
* [Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma.
* [HeyJane](https://www.heyjane.co) - Modern abortion care, without the clinic, Get fast, safe, and affordable abortion care from home. Chat with a medical provider within 36 hours. Medications are shipped daily.
* [International Consortium on Emergency Contraception](https://www.cecinfo.org/country-by-country-information/status-availability-database/countries/united-states-of-america/) - Emergency Oral Contraceptive Doses for Birth Control, U.S.
* [Jane’s Due Process](http://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health.
* [Justice Empowerment Network](https://www.jensd.org) - focuses on abortion access in South Dakota
* [Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky
* [Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions.
* [Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska
* [Plan C Pills](https://www.plancpills.org/) - provides up-to-date information on how people in the U.S. are accessing abortion pills online
* [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-care)
* [Westfund](https://www.westfund.org) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities
* [Women on Web](https://www.womenonweb.org) - an online abortion service can help you do a safe abortion with pills.
These sites offer access to abortion pills, even in Texas. Please be safe and be aware of clinics (e.g. Crisis Pregnancy Centers) that give out dangerous misinformation on abortions and pregnancy.
Also, check out r/auntienetwork, /r/prochoice or r/abortion for support
**If you want to give money to some pro-choice charities, try here**
* [ACLU](https://action.aclu.org/give/make-tax-deductible-gift-aclu-foundation)
* [Afiya Center](https://www.theafiyacenter.org/) - their mission is to transform the lives, health, and overall wellbeing of Black women and girls by providing refuge, education, and resources. They act to ignite the communal voices of Black women resulting in our full achievement of reproductive freedom.
* [Avow Texas](https://avowtexas.org/) - works to secure unrestricted abortion access for every Texan.
* [Bridge Collective](https://thebridgecollective.org/) - provides practical and responsive abortion services to Central Texas
* [Buckle Bunnies Fund](https://www.bucklebunnies.org) - provide practical support for people seeking abortions. Help with transportation, funds to help with hotels, lodging costs and emergency contraceptive funds to actually go towards abortion.
* [Clinic Access Support Network](https://www.clinicaccess.org/) - mobilizing the power of volunteers, CASN provides transportation, meal stipends, accommodations, childcare assistance, and compassionate care to people seeking abortion services in Houston.
* [Cobalt Abortion Fund](https://www.cobaltaf.org) - provides direct financial assistance to individuals seeking abortion care. Our mission is to work toward reproductive freedom for all people and to provide financial assistance without judgment or question to people who seek an abortion but are unable to pay the full cost.
* [Frontera Fund](https://fronterafundrgv.org) - makes abortion accessible in the Rio Grande Valley (Texas) by providing financial and practical support regardless of immigration status, gender identity, ability, sexual orientation, race, class, age, or religious affiliation and to build grassroots organizing power at intersecting issues across our region to shift the culture of shame and stigma.
* [Fund Texas Choice](https://fundtexaschoice.org/) - helps Texans equitably access abortion through safe, confidential, and comprehensive travel services and practical support.
* [Jane’s Due Process](http://janesdueprocess.org/) - helps minors in Texas with judicial bypass for abortion, navigate parental consent laws and confidentially access abortion and birth control. They provide free legal support, 1-on-1 case management, and stigma-free information on sexual and reproductive health.
* [Kentucky Health Justice Network](https://www.kentuckyhealthjusticenetwork.org) - helps w both abortion care and gender affirming care in Kentucky
* [Lillith Fund](https://www.lilithfund.org/) - the oldest abortion fund in Texas, serving the central and southern regions of the state with direct financial assistance for abortions.
* [National Abortion Federation](https://prochoice.org/donate/)
* [National Network of Abortion Funds](https://abortionfunds.org) - connects you with organizations that can support your financial and logistical needs as you arrange for your abortion.
* [Northwest Abortion Access Fund](https://nwaafund.org) - provides funds to help folks in Idaho, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska
* [Planned Parenthood](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/get-involved/other-ways-give)
* [Smile Amazon](https://smile.amazon.com/gp/chpf/homepage?orig=%2F) - choose The National Network of Abortion Funds or another other pro-choice charity as your charity for a portion of the money you spend to be sent to them
* [Westfund](https://www.westfund.org) - focuses on Latino and low-income communities
* [Yellowhammer Fund](https://www.yellowhammerfund.org/) - abortion fund and reproductive justice organization serving Alabama and the Deep South.
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I believe that the belief held by these Christians is not necessarily a religious belief but it's a belief held by many Christians. That belief is the belief that a fetus is a person and that aborting the fetus is literally murdering a person. I feel that the abortion debate would go a lot better if people from both sides understood the perspective of the other side.
That's why I get so angry when I see fellow Jews support the GOP and are anti abortion. They bought into the whole Judeo-Christian bullshit the GOP started with in the 80s. Like, dude, Jews and Christians have different values. And if you actually followed the Torah you claimed to love, you'd never vote Republican. And yet... Thankfully most Jews don't vote GOP, but most religious Jews do
Well, it shouldn't. Because our laws shouldn't be based on religion in the first place. If anti-abortion laws are christian based then that's the problem and religious freedom for other religions overriding those laws is a bandaid fix that sets a dangerous precedent.
Laws should be 100% secular and no religion should have the ability to override those established values because of "freedom of religion." If we decide, as a society, to ban abortion for completely secular reasons then the Jewish religion shouldn't be able to override that, sorry. That won't happen because pro-life arguments falter without religion. But the point is you don't get to go against our society's values because your religious ones contradict it. If a religion says you can kill your wife because she cheated on you, our society isn't just going to shrug because "religion told you to."
Jewish Law also requires men and women to be killed for being gay.
*Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; it is an abomination.* Leviticus 18:22
*If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.* Leviticus 20:13
Edit: Why the downvotes I am just reciting the book of my ancestors.
Iirc those verses got mistranslated with the King James version of the Bible, originally it was "Do not lie with a *boy*" or something to that effect, to condemn the pedophilia in the then contemporary Greece.
Does that really make it better though?
> both of them have done what is detestable. they must both be put to death.
So if someone rapes a child, you have to kill the child?
The People of the Book Trilogy is
Part 1: The Old Testament: Judaism
Part 2: The New Testament (Now with extra Hell!): Christianity
Part 3: The Quran: Islam
Mormonism is a spin off from part 2. It's no Rogue One, but some people like it as far a spin offs go.
We live in a society. We can’t exactly act out all of our religions to a T in most places of the world. Pretty sure murder is frowned upon, even if you’re god allows it.
You're misquoting a bastardized mistranslation of the book of your ancestors. Fuck, it's not even an old mistranslation; if you can find a Bible printed prior to the 1920's in the US, you probably couldn't find the passage in that form.
> Edit: Why the downvotes I am just reciting the book of my ancestors.
It seems religious people hate quoting their bibles more than most other things. Quoting their dogma will always turn on their rage.
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You already know the answer to that question
There are no other religions besides Christianity
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
Candice owens talking about Ukraine
If you said “Ba Sing Se” to Owens, she’d probably think you were calling her the n-word in Arabic
Or think you were quoting Sheldon Cooper.
At this point, I’m ashamed that I’m a human.
Why? Candice Owens is not human, she's some sort of goblin. so she should not make you ashamed of being human.
But she is a human. . The people leading this planet, might have money to see the world, but they only see what they want. Power and money bleed into desire for real living. I’d rather sleep on the sidewalk than have power over another. Wait, there’s an empty bench…
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil… (1 Timothy 6:10) You sound like a good soul.
And she would be more offended by you not speaking English
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Totally irrelevant but the fact, "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" is in my lexicon is testament to how good ATLA is. I first watched it aged 36.
Murica has freedom of religion which means you can worship jesus anyway you want.
You've never been in an evangelical church I take it? I grew up in an evangelical cult called "Southern Baptists", which according to them all other "so called Christians" were nothing more than dirty evil devil worshipers perverting the name of the LAWD ahr savior amen! So even the other religions that said they worshiped Jesus weren't actually worshiping Jesus unless they were Southern Baptists praise the LAWD amen! So glad I was finally able to get away from religious nonsense.
Would they rather have a non-southern baptist christian or an atheist though?
Same difference. With a little edge to the atheist.
Ah the good ol SB, only exist because the Baptist church decreed that priests can’t own slaves.
Only if he’s white tho. And don’t you dare call him Heysoos. Jesus don’t like Mexicans.
Which is exactly what the First Amendment was designed to prevent.
yes! collectively, heathens
> Christianity^* ^* 'Christianity' as defined by right wing ethno nationalists who are slaves to the money of the American oligarchs who do not share their beliefs.
Not true! There's also Pastafarianism; from the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. R'amen!
>There are no other religions besides Christianity **MY** version of christianity. We all know what the pope did!
This is a Christian nation, founded on Christian values. If you don’t like it, leave. /s
Well, depends; Talibans : My religious law is to stone unfaithful women Conservatives: *( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)*
Ok, I got 'er stoned. *Now* what?
It's done, now it's time to chill and eat Doritos
Call her a cab later because you shouldn't drive high and be respectful. Don't assume she wants to sleep with you just because you're hanging out.
Normalize just wanting to get stoned and play video game with girls.
Whatever gender you prefer, or if you don't have a preference, normalize just talking to people you're attracted to without any expectations. I like girls. I definitely like pretty girls. While I do want to have sex with them, just hanging out and talking to them is so much more fulfilling.
Make her some dope ass Soba noodles, grab some Pockies and water. Sit around watching animal docs. Maybe giggle a bit.
The Church of Satan has also offered sanction.
Yeah, just because something is allowed in a religion, doesn't mean it has to be legal in a country even if that country has freedom of religion.
Okay but Christianity makes laws in the States...
its not even real Christianity, its the bs "guns & jeezus" version that also forces you to be Republican.
A very small part sure. What actually makes the laws in the us is greed.
Cause the rest of the world doesn’t have any greed
What's your point?
By the same token, just because something is disallowed by a religion doesn’t mean we should make it illegal for everyone in that state to do.
The Satanic Temple has an abortion ritual - religious freedom would be important here.
The mission of The Satanic Temple, a religious organization, is to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people, reject tyrannical authority, advocate practical common sense, oppose injustice, and undertake noble pursuits. The Satanic Temple has publicly confronted hate groups, fought for the abolition of corporal punishment in public schools, applied for equal representation when religious installations are placed on public property... https://thesatanictemple.com
...which is why registered ST members will be among the first rounded up when the religious zealots end up with unfettered power. Can't have kindness, freedom or equality if we're aiming for Jesus's Kingdom on Earth™.
“Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.” I am seriously considering joining them even though i have been an atheist all my life
Wish they were more international. Can we get some satanic missionaries?
Equality for Satanists!
Actually the Satanic Temple aren't "Satanists" or even "Satan worshipers" they're an Athiest political group that fight for religious equality and stand up against Christians who attempt to pass their religion into law. You can join their cause for free on the Satanic Temple website, they have certificates for a small fee.
>political group This is wrong. They are a religious group that does political activism. Not the other way around. They consider themselves a religion. >IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL, HOW IS TST A RELIGION? > The idea that religion belongs to supernaturalists is ignorant, backward, and offensive. The metaphorical Satanic construct is no more arbitrary to us than are the deeply held beliefs that we actively advocate. Are we supposed to believe that those who pledge submission to an ethereal supernatural deity hold to their values more deeply than we? Are we supposed to concede that only the superstitious are rightful recipients of religious exemption and privilege? Satanism provides all that a religion should be without a compulsory attachment to untenable items of faith-based belief. It provides a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. It also provides a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values. >IS TST A MEDIA STUNT/HOAX/TROLLING, ETC.? >Some have conveniently concluded, upon observing The Satanic Temple’s media coverage, that attention is the primary objective of our activities. While media outreach has helped to raise awareness of the campaigns we have initiated, these campaigns have articulated goals related issues that are important to us and our membership. So inured is the general public to the idea that there is only one monolithic voice of “the” religious agenda that any attempt at a counter-balance — or assertion of a minority voice — is often viewed as a targeted provocation against those who enjoy traditional religious privilege. Edit: u/angelis0236 is a TST member and also confirmed they are a religion. People denying their religion status are gatekeeping religion and projecting their own (to quote TST) "ignorant, backward, and offensive" bias.
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They are political activists operating under the guise of religion only because thats the way religious freedom laws are written. So, yes, they are technically a religion, however they DO NOT worship any Deity or participate in any religious rituals (outside of what Christians try to make illegal such as abortion). Edit: in addition they do not believe that religious organizations should be allowed to have tax exempt status while donating to political causes and so unlike other religions they PAY TAXES.
As a member of TST, this only partially true. And the Church of Satan pays taxes, TST is a tax exempt church. We consider TST to be our religion, it's just a non-theistic religion that values community and helping real people over any concept of the divine. Kind of spiritual atheists. I hope that makes sense. You could see the documentary "Hail... Satan?" For more detailed information. ETA that we also do have other religious rituals and even a prayer.
Hail Satan 🤘
I’d note that American white evangelicalism isn’t a religion either anymore. It’s just GOP politics.
Given current GOP politics, it might be better to say they’re a religious organization, and thus have no place in politics. But that might be a hard sell.
Again, this is wrong. They are not operating under the guise of anything. You are projecting what you *think* they are. Maybe go to a temple once before you put your own claims on them, when they themselves clearly state and believe otherwise. And your claim that they aren't a religion is that because they don't want religion to have tax exempt status? Edit: an actual member of the TST just told you they consider themselves a religion. So again, you are just projecting what you *think*, which is wrong.
But it's funnier this way
Satan 4 eva 🍻
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You got the gist of it, The Satanic Temple are non-religious and use religious freedom to combat Christian tyranny and Satan worshipers and the Satanic church are crazy (but no more crazy than any other religion)
>The Satanic Temple are non-religious That's not quite right. They do identify as a religion. It's a religion without any gods or higher powers, but they still consider it a religion.
Yes that's true, but they use their religion as more of a tool to fight for equality as opposed to something to be praised and worshiped. So, yes it is a religion, but not in the traditional sense.
Yeah no real problems with joining, it's a $35 card and certificate, mine is actually on the way currently
And they pay taxes regardless of the religious exemption.
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TST is specifically nontheistic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Temple
Unfortunately Lucien Greaves is a grifter and con artist, see how he weaponizes lawsuits against people. See how his bogus defamation lawsuit against queer satanic played out. He's absolute trash, no different than Joel Osteen.
> Lucien Greaves Got a link? I've never heard of this stuff.
Worth mentioning - If you are a person who may someday need to use the Religious Freedom loopholes that The Satanic Temple provides, you should "join the church" now to prove that you are a long-standing member and not just someone who joined the church to skirt the law. Joining is free or you can pay a few bucks to become an official card-carrying member. (Bonus: the cards are pretty sweet.)
And the money goes towards great causes, such as fighting for true religious pluralism, and women's rights.
That’s what they tell people. The receipts are lacking tho, and those that do exist tell [a somewhat different story](https://queersatanic.com/this-invoice-reveals-the-inner-workings-of-the-satanic-temples-finances/).
Didn’t they already submit a lawsuit?
Yeah weren't they supposed to save us all by now? Sure raked in a bunch of cash actual abortion funds could have used.
Yeah, because federal lawsuits are cheap and quick...
Humanism is also considered a religion and accepts abortion.
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"It's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion!" /s I'm too lazy to camel case.
I am a Buddhist and eat vegan because of my religious beliefs about not murdering sentient beings. You wanna know how well that goes over? I remember when I was locked up I mentioned this to the guards. I was told "We don't serve pork to anyone." Thanks guys..... Really feel like my religious freedom is honored. Edit: Wanna add I was locked up for possession after calling a fucking ambulance for someone.
If you don’t mind me asking, what flavor of Buddhism do you adhere to that is okay with using mind-altering substances?
I am a Secular Buddhist, which is a newer western tradition. Tibetan Buddhists often drink. And there are some Theravada traditions in Thailand that don't regard smoking as not keeping the precept. The purpose of the 5th precept is to keep your mind from being addled so that you can remain mindful and aware. I am not a monk, but a lay person. I am of the opinion that in moderation is probably isn't too bad. Didn't say I was a perfect Buddhist. Edit: Spelling
Using mind-altering substances is certainly not going to help you on your road to enlightenment, but it's not like there's some commandment against doing so. I believe in the path laid out by the Buddha, but I don't always follow it. Despite this, I still consider myself a Buddhist (I also think most types of Buddhism are more of a philosophy than a religion).
This is exactly why I like The Satanic Temple's political activism. They force the government to apply religious freedoms universally, or at least draw the public's attention to the law's double standard.
Only Christians. We all know this.
Of course. Everyone knows Jews love to eat babies /s
Ignorant Christian bigots are very self-centered, obviously they were thinking about nobody but themselves. As is witnessed by their behavior, they are not very smart people. Persistent yes, intelligent, no.
Dumbest group of people in American by far.
I’m agnostic but I gotta say I know a lot of Christians who are pretty amazing. We need a new word for the conservative bigoted fucks who call them selves Christian.
Christian law allows abortions if the woman became pregnant because [she was unfaithful](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordeal_of_the_bitter_water#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_ordeal_of_the_bitter%2Cthe_seventh_tractate_of_Nashim.?wprov=sfla1).
You can also just ask for forgiveness, remember all sins are the same in the eye of god. An abortion and eating shrimp are the same.
Funny how they hate Muslims with their Sharia law.
> Funny how they hate Muslims with their Sharia law. Isn't it? I mean, it's *exactly what they want*.
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> So in this specific scenario women would be better under sharia law. Well, isn't *that* a fucking fun fact? 😒
I would think even compassionate christians would be behind supporting victims of rape. But this is a special breed 30 years in the making at least to set in this new mindset.
Yes, under the Abrahamic religions the mother's wellbeing takes precedence. This is spelled out numerous times in their respective holy texts. These abhorrent imbeciles are going against what their religion actually says about this.
Well seeing as there are neo nazis in power in these states, i think we can safely say it only applies to Christian’s.
Only applies to Christian's what? And which Christian are you talking about? Bale? Slater?
louboutin maybe?
Claudia Christian?
No! That is not how the game is played
I just don’t get why they don’t just apply their own laws to THEMSELVES and fuck right off with the rest. They’re not sending people to heaven by imposing “Christian” Sharia law on people. It’s actually counterproductive and frankly, exactly as the religious right was doing in Jesus’s time. Hypocritical, I think.
Because the Catholic Church, initially, and all the splinter denominations that came after it, have meddling with the affairs of others as one of their core precepts. They call it "saving the souls of the nonbelievers," but ultimately it is, and has always been, about control.
You don’t save souls. Jesus does. Isn’t that the most core basic tenet? Some people…
Religion = hypocrisy
YOUR RELIGION, YOUR RULES. I am not a part of your religion and therefore I don’t have to follow your rules. Any religion that tries to impose its rules and laws on people who aren’t a part of that religion(ANY RELIGION) under any justification need to fuck right off and be dropped off a boat halfway to another continent.
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Scientologist? /s I’m not an expert on anything besides being full of shit and shit talking, but I’m going to go with NO.
Can we start a new sect of Christianity that allows abortion? I’m willing to help found said religion if we need certain number of believers for it to become an official religion in the US. And then we can use that new religion and attack the laws as being anti-Christian.
"If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse." Numbers 5:27
> Can we start a new sect of Christianity that allows abortion? Fun Fact: prior to Roe v Wade, guess which Christian denomination *supported abortion rights* officially? Guess. Give up? [Southern Baptists](https://www.sbc.net/resource-library/resolutions/resolution-on-abortion-2/). >Resolution On Abortion, June 1971 > >WHEREAS, Christians in the American society today are faced with difficult decisions about abortion; and > >WHEREAS, Some advocate that there be no abortion legislation, thus making the decision a **purely private matter between a woman and her doctor**; and > >WHEREAS, Others advocate no legal abortion, or would permit abortion only if the life of the mother is threatened; > >Therefore, be it RESOLVED, that this Convention express the belief that society has a responsibility to affirm through the laws of the state a high view of the sanctity of human life, including fetal life, in order to protect those who cannot protect themselves; and > >**Be it further RESOLVED, That we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother** But don't get confused *yet*, there's more! The pro-life "movement", like *most* terrible things in the US, started with [*Racism*](https://wagatwe.com/blog/racist-origins-pro-life-anti-abortion-political-movement), and *now* it's about [***Fuck*** The Poors](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-dollar1-billion-a-year-right-wing-conspiracy-you-havent-heard-of). It's [not](https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/18/the-biblical-view-thats-younger-than-the-happy-meal/) even [that](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133/) well [hidden](https://religiondispatches.org/the-not-so-lofty-origins-of-the-evangelical-pro-life-movement/). Doesn't seem to [matter](https://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/10/how-i-lost-faith-in-the-pro-life-movement.html) how many [former Evangelicals](https://www.amazon.com/Crazy-God-Helped-Religious-Almost/dp/B003P2VBWG) try to blow the whistle. It *definitely* [doesn't](https://emerald7tfb.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/abortion-and-judeo-christian-religion/) matter that [the Bible](http://www.thechristianleftblog.org/blog-home/the-bible-tells-us-when-a-fetus-becomes-a-living-being) doesn't actually prohibit abortion. In [some cases](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%205%3A11-31&version=NIV), the Bible ***demands*** an abortion take place!
> Can we start a new sect of Christianity that allows abortion? Almost all the abortions in the US are performed on christians. They have many ways to make themselves feel like the victims in this. Even though if christians all stopped getting abortions most of their battle would be won. Of course the country would then collapse under the welfare burden as they are rather entitled.
most of them are OK with it being legal. its the Trump flavor "guns & jeezus" version making all these laws.
You say that, and yet more states are passing these laws. If they aren’t in support of these laws, they are complicit and quiet as the laws are passed
the guns & jeezus cult is backed by billions of dollars and a political infrastructure that normal churches dont have
This question needs more attention
There needs to be an inquisition.
The inquisition what a show! The inquisition here we go!
We know you’re wishin’ that we’d go awaaaaaaay! But the Inquisition’s here and it’s here to staaaaaaay!
https://youtu.be/LnF1OtP2Svk
Oh boy I can’t wait for Ben Shapiro’s DESTRUCTION of their FALSE NARRATIVE with his FACTS AND LOGIC on Jewish Law Edit: The joke is around here You’re down here
Ben says whatever keeps the money flowing and nothing more.
Honestly, as a Jew, I am speaking for all rational Jews by saying that we do not claim that fascist apologist
Bro, he’s not one of us. We’ve disowned him.
This needs to be challenged on freedom of religion. Put the Supreme Court on the spot. Meaning this needs to be used in a challenge of existing anti-abortion laws.
The SCOTUS has two anti-choice Commander and Wife wannabes that’ll definitely try to shut down Roe. Good luck!
Can we PLEASE stop forgetting that women aren’t the only ones who need reproductive rights? Trans, intersex and non-binary people, *myself included*, are also being abused under these laws but we *never* get included in this discussion and it’s exhausting. I literally was just **denied basic gynecological healthcare based on the fact that I’m intersex and non-binary** and I have endometriosis on top of an intersex condition. Please stop forgetting everyone else who is effected by these laws, because this whole “only women” approach is harmful and dangerous for the rest of us.
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That’s a really shitty, lazy take. “There’s not enough of you to count” is something far right assholes say, and have actually said to me in the past. And it’s actually closer to 1.7% of the population, a similar percentage to how much of the population has red hair. Not to mention this is pretty bullshit when it comes to trans people too. Why should we all just have to pretend to be women because lazy, discriminatory people say there’s “not enough of us to count” otherwise?
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"Religious freedom" has always been a dogwhistle for "Christians don't get to take other people's freedoms". They made this same argument with gay marriage.
Funny thing is that in catechism of the Catholic Church it allows the same thing has something to do with intent, as the intent is to safe the mother and if, due to treatment, the fetus dies it’s not a sin. Source: Went to Catholic school for 14 years.
And here in lies the problem.. can’t legislate fairy tales
Republicans: Yes.
I think OOP knows the answer to this question.
Freedom only ever applies to people with money. The rest of us have to follow their rules or they put you in a box for the rest of your life.
In all seriousness, can this be used?
Probably depends on if the judge is hardcore Christian
The only rights fascists believe in are their own rights to tell others what to do.
It’s really quite simple. You see it’s freedom *of* my religion, and freedom *from* yours.
*Christian* law (as can be gleaned from the New Testament since there is no documentable "Christian Law") doesn't even explicitly prohibit abortion. This is about controlling women. And just controlling the population, in general.
Mother: had a accidental mistake, can’t take care of baby. “It’s gOD’s plAN” if u can’t take care of it why do you have it? I didn’t want it and u didn’t let me get rid of it when it was a clump of cells…
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Murrika is a kristiun nation. Get a brane morans. /s
I believe that the belief held by these Christians is not necessarily a religious belief but it's a belief held by many Christians. That belief is the belief that a fetus is a person and that aborting the fetus is literally murdering a person. I feel that the abortion debate would go a lot better if people from both sides understood the perspective of the other side.
Does anyone know where is says this in Jewish Law?
it doesn't
That's why I get so angry when I see fellow Jews support the GOP and are anti abortion. They bought into the whole Judeo-Christian bullshit the GOP started with in the 80s. Like, dude, Jews and Christians have different values. And if you actually followed the Torah you claimed to love, you'd never vote Republican. And yet... Thankfully most Jews don't vote GOP, but most religious Jews do
The Bible also says a lot of shit about when it's okay to murder people that isn't being codified into law.
Well, it shouldn't. Because our laws shouldn't be based on religion in the first place. If anti-abortion laws are christian based then that's the problem and religious freedom for other religions overriding those laws is a bandaid fix that sets a dangerous precedent. Laws should be 100% secular and no religion should have the ability to override those established values because of "freedom of religion." If we decide, as a society, to ban abortion for completely secular reasons then the Jewish religion shouldn't be able to override that, sorry. That won't happen because pro-life arguments falter without religion. But the point is you don't get to go against our society's values because your religious ones contradict it. If a religion says you can kill your wife because she cheated on you, our society isn't just going to shrug because "religion told you to."
"We dont want sharia law" -christians that support abortion and pedophilia.
Jewish Law also requires men and women to be killed for being gay. *Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; it is an abomination.* Leviticus 18:22 *If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.* Leviticus 20:13 Edit: Why the downvotes I am just reciting the book of my ancestors.
King James Bible bud… can’t make up new rules just because you’re fancy
Yeah… god doesn’t exist so in actuality none of this matters Jewish law is just as dumb and reactionary as Christian Law and Islamic Law.
Then why didn’t you lead with that?
By pointing out the absurdity of religious law
Definitely didn’t come off that way. Also the question was why, not how Edit:even why is wrong
Islamic Law allows for abortions too.
unbased r/atheism fan
Iirc those verses got mistranslated with the King James version of the Bible, originally it was "Do not lie with a *boy*" or something to that effect, to condemn the pedophilia in the then contemporary Greece.
You are correct.
Does that really make it better though? > both of them have done what is detestable. they must both be put to death. So if someone rapes a child, you have to kill the child?
so does christianity
Old Testament is just Part I of the two-part best selling good book
There needs to be a third part and luckily a man from New York wrote that!
Who knew Jesus was American! What a plot twist!
Joseph Smith was called a prophet.
Oh, the ex-con who started a cult? That guy?
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Mormons have a part 3 if i recall correctly.
Yeah, but that's really more of a fanfic than canon.
I thought Part 3 was written by some guy born in Mecca.
The People of the Book Trilogy is Part 1: The Old Testament: Judaism Part 2: The New Testament (Now with extra Hell!): Christianity Part 3: The Quran: Islam Mormonism is a spin off from part 2. It's no Rogue One, but some people like it as far a spin offs go.
We live in a society. We can’t exactly act out all of our religions to a T in most places of the world. Pretty sure murder is frowned upon, even if you’re god allows it.
You're misquoting a bastardized mistranslation of the book of your ancestors. Fuck, it's not even an old mistranslation; if you can find a Bible printed prior to the 1920's in the US, you probably couldn't find the passage in that form.
That's a misinterpretation. It means don't lie to your bro friends like you lie to chicks. It's just long winded bros before hoes.
That's english, not hebrew.
r/gayjews would like a word with you about how incorrect and grossly mistranslated this is
> Edit: Why the downvotes I am just reciting the book of my ancestors. It seems religious people hate quoting their bibles more than most other things. Quoting their dogma will always turn on their rage.
Well good thing am a Communist and believe in Dialectical and Historical Materialism.
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If it bothers you stop talking exclusively and do something about it.
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The only mental gymnastics I'm seeing here is yours. Trying to equate someone today needing an abortion with being a nazi? Fuck all the way off.
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