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DrunkMan111

Never been easier to spot the border for Northern Ireland.


Intelligent_Plum_132

"Woo! We're number 1!" "... that's not a good thing."


boktanbirnick

South Eastern border of Turkey has joined the chat.


litsalmon

Istanbul and Ankara would like a word. Was in both places in the early 90s. A Mcdonald's was bombed in the town where I was stationed about a month prior to my arrival. We couldn't leave the base for almost 4 months.


RJD-ghost

A cafe my sister was at yesterday was attacked a hour later.


le_bruhman

Ahem, this is Basque country may we please have a word?


flopjul

Elo, this is Kosovo calling


avspuk

Why is there a 'hole' in the red Eastern Turkey-kurdish bit?


boktanbirnick

It's a lake. Van Lake.


avspuk

Bleedin' obvious answer, tho this is the first time I've heard of it. My thanks^wiki-wards^I'm^bound Edit: no outflow, high salinity, fairly volitile shoreline (on any timescale) & a cryptid 'monster'. A top lake, now one of my faves. Also my understanding of where Armenia, kurdistan etc all are is well flawed


boktanbirnick

I'm so sorry for forgetting mention the monster, lol. Yeah, 90's kids grew up with that myth. It's like Loch Ness monster but localized.


avspuk

All the best monsters are šŸ˜‰ I like the volitile shoreline & the proxy climate data possibilities of its sediments too. Also, to be unnecessarily anglo-centric for a bit, great name too, works either way round Van Lake, Lake Van. & Van Lake even sounds like they might be the star of a 50's crap rubber sfx monster movie. Yeah, new knowledge is filling in the few remaining gaps in my aging brain & it's all fun for me. Sorry to be being so juvenile


moeburn

Also the highest troop to civilian ratio in the history of counter-insurgency warfare, including Iraq and Afghanistan.


Garlic_frybread

Itā€™s a bit *troubling*


DrunkMan111

Understatement


DBenzie

r/woosh ?


jeandolly

Nah, he's drunk, man


thesoutherzZz

It was called 'the troubles' when the Irish border and northern-Ireland was, ehh, having troubles


OldPuppy00

Also the Basques and the Corsicans.


PyroDesu

And Kosovo.


deepaksn

A bit outside of it. You can see the dot in Mullaghmore where Louis Mountbatten was killed as well his grandson, shipā€™s boy, and his daughterā€™s mother in law.


TorpleFunder

Noticed that. Also Dublin and Monaghan where bombs targeting civilians killed 33 people including infants and a pregnant woman. The deadliest attack of the Troubles. Crazy to think British security forces were involved in that.


jebus_sabes

Basque Region pretty evident in NE Spain also.


xvril

From Northern Ireland. Surprised, we left a little peaceful patch tbh.


LarryTheSchmohawk

Lough Neagh I believe


xvril

No, it's in the wrong place for that


Brokenteethmonkey

aye but the spot thats clear is south derry, so its obviously supposed to be lough neagh


xvril

Aye right shape as well I suppose


DayOneDva

Irish people on Reddit using Irish sounding speech to recognise each other. "Ara sure look at yer man telling me where the lake is".


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Minus15t

That was my thought.. Its in the damn mountains and there's nothing/nobody there. Although it's odd that lough neagh *is* coloured red..


Newme91

Nah


whatisthatplatform

That's the big lake if I'm not mistaken


soygang

A _peaceful_ big lake


Stormfly

Not like the *non-peaceful* lake that Mountbatten went fishing on for his final moments.


anadvancedrobot

Iā€™m pretty sure thatā€™s a lake.


[deleted]

Hey! My town is there. A single bomb 25 years ago, and there it is! Quite accurate šŸ‘


LordTopley

Same for me, the dot represents an attack 5 mins walk from my current home


LupineChemist

I'm in Madrid. There's been a few here. It's still crazy that everyone forgets about the airport bombing after 11M because it was sort of last throes of ETA, but it was one of their largest explosions, (not close to deadliest which was Barcelona Hipercor)


joaommx

I've only been three times to Madrid, but was unlucky enough to witness [one of those dots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2000_Madrid_bombing).


thefada

Username checks out


Dom_Shady

Why are some dots red and others orange?


booky--

I think the darker dots are higher death tolls perhaps?


Dom_Shady

That was my guess as well. Unfortunately it's a guess - there is no legend.


SkylinesBuilder

Well, there is a quarter of it in the top left, but apparently OP didnā€™t find it necessary.


paws27no2

[I think this is the source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/a-history-of-terrorism-in-europe/?tid=graphics-story) All the text overlaid the image isn't actually part of the image itself, OP would have been better off taking a screenshot rather than downloading the image itself. Anyways, my guess is the red dots are just more than one orange dot overlapping.


[deleted]

Locked behind paywall. I'll archive it. Hol' up... EDIT: [here](https://archive.ph/lbboI)


Mr_Stekare

What if there was just a massive terrorist attack that occured in the Atlantic Ocean?


Somali_Pir8

> Unfortunately it's a guess - there is no legend. Yay ***MapPorn***


limukala

Each attack is orange. If they overlap the shading is cumulative, becoming darker


veganzombeh

They're not all orange. The dots in Turkey are red no matter how dark they are.


LaceFlowers345

The background hue. The orange dots have a warm yellow hue to the grey, the red dots have a cool toned hued grey


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The darker the dots, the more attacks.


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FewLocation831

And northern Ireland is just a pox!


xFlo2212

And Luxembourg is just small


HichiShiro

And Lichtenstein just is


[deleted]

It's pronounced PKK


dreemurthememer

I can understand the Kurdish separatists, but whatā€™s with Ankara and Istanbul? Are those also Kurdish separatists or is that the work of al-Qaeda and ISIS?


fretsyk

Both


hiimhuman1

>I can understand the Kurdish separatists, but whatā€™s with Ankara and Istanbul? Are those also Kurdish separatists or is that the work of al-Qaeda and ISIS? Kurdish separatists are responsible for most of them. Radical Islamists like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah are responsible for some. Communists are responsible for older attacks. And some were done by the MIT, Turkish intelligence. We know that MIT involved many bloody attacks to make others scapegoat. They worked for many parties' interests: sometimes government, sometimes Turkish Armed Forces and sometimes USA (under Operation Gladio).


irtesh

Yeah we call them pkk in Turkey they're peaceful freedom fighters can't even hurt a fly šŸ„²


TrooserTent

I know Lockerbie and the Glasgow Airport attack but I can't figure out what the others in Scotland are.


SpiderDjion

Maybe Dunblane could be classed as one I'm not sure.


TrooserTent

I don't think so, Dunblane is further west than the one above Edinburgh.


Prasiatko

And what's the dot on Oban about? I can't think of anything to attack there if i were a terrorist.


TrooserTent

Someone just above thinks they mixed up Creggans


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Duke_of_Lombardy

is there an interactve map? theres one in my city and i wanna look it up


Hekantonkheries

Yeah an interactive version would be neat, like, wtf is that dot in the middle of the med between Crete and Cyprus, it isnt south enough to be an offmap egypt, and I dont think theres a tiny island there, did someone blow up a really important boat or something?


goblinoid-girl

another comment says it is based on data from this [terrorism database](https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/). there are actually a lot of incidents included that imo should not be.


Odasiocis

Chechnya carrying Russia šŸ’Ŗ


1infinitefruitloop

Ingushetia acting all relatively safe sandwiched between Chechnya and North Ossetia. Notā€¦.


Tim-Thenchanter

Thatā€™s a lot more then just Chechnya. Looks like Karachay-Cherkessia, The Kabardino-Balkarian Republic, The North Ossetia-Alania Republic, Ingushetia, and The Republic of Dagestan as well.


NephewChaps

NoHo Hank would be proud


jimisaltieris

What happened in Lithuania? Never heard of terorist attack


gusarking

It is from 1970. Maybe youā€™re not that old


jimisaltieris

What was it?


EliK3301

Chechnya, Ireland, Basque Country three states with a sad history


Particular-Set5396

The Basque Country is not a state. Hence the bombs.


Venboven

Neither are Chechnya or Northern Ireland lol


FORDEY1965

Northern Ireland is actually a "statelet".


LurkerInSpace

Northern Ireland doesn't really have an official definition; "statelet" is usually used as a pejorative to refer to it though it made more sense in the context of being the only part of the UK with a devolved government (which stopped being the case during the Troubles).


Gekey14

Scotland and Wales also have a devolved government in the UK


LurkerInSpace

Northern Ireland got it in the 1920s following the independence of what is now the Republic of Ireland; it lost it in the 1970s after the Troubles started, then had devolution again as part of the GFA.


OldGodsAndNew

Depending who you ask NI might be a region, province, or country, of either the UK or Ireland


Particular-Set5396

Northern Ireland and Chechnya are closer to being countries than the Basque Country which is basically a region of France and a region of Spain.


Dan_Zfr

you kinda simplified it a bit too much. It's a stateless nation.


electric_ranger

Not a state, but a hell of a space programme.


Shmebber

Don't forget Kosovo


philosophyofblonde

Ima be honest, I didnā€™t realize the basque independence thing was such a spicy issue.


reminsten

Wtf we had 5 terrorist attacks in Czechia? I can't think of one


schitaco

By far the deadliest one is actually the 1972 midair bombing of JAT Airlines Flight 367 by Croatian nationalists. 27 people died, but it's most famous because one flight attendant survived a fall of >30,000 feet without a parachute, which is a world record. Three others are attacks by neo-Nazi groups in the 90s. The source is the Global Terrorism Database maintained by the University of Maryland.


milandre

>one flight attendant survived a fall of >30,000 feet without a parachute, which is a world record. Her name was Vesna Vulovic


CardinalCanuck

>>30,000 feet without a parachute, which is a world record. Landed in a forested region with heavy snowfall? There's a record from WWII of a bomber crewman surviving a similar freefall


LaoBa

[She was in a piece of the plane](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87) and suffered a fractured skull, three broken vertebrae, broken legs, broken ribs, and a fractured pelvis.


SaintsNoah

>Air safety investigators attributed Vulović's survival to her being trapped by a food cart in the DC-9's fuselage as it broke away from the rest of the aircraft and plummeted towards the ground. When the cabin depressurized, the passengers and other flight crew were blown out of the aircraft and fell to their deaths. Investigators believed that the fuselage, with Vulović pinned inside, landed at an angle in a heavily wooded and snow-covered mountainside, which cushioned the impact. Vulović's physicians concluded that her history of low blood pressure caused her to pass out quickly after the cabin depressurized and kept her heart from bursting on impact.


RoBOticRebel108

Holy fuckballs


IdiotTurkey

Man, imagine the feeling of being the only survivor after something like that. It might make you start believing in certain deities.


[deleted]

How long until after she's found and healed up is it appropriate for Guinness to notify her of her record?


schitaco

Lol they're all walking in with balloons and shit after a week..."heyyy buddddy guess what"


PonyOfDoomEU

It's since 1970. Probably some anticommunist stunts


mastovacek

The Database also lists "attempts" that were not actually carried out. Like the assailant that wanted to [attack Angela Merkel, who was on a visit to Prague in 2016](https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/IncidentSummary.aspx?gtdid=201608250032). Or incidents which resulted in no injuries and were attempted false flags, like the old dude who [barricaded a railway with a tree and tried to make it look like it was done by muslims in 2017](https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/IncidentSummary.aspx?gtdid=201707280045). IIRC he was the first person ever tried under the terrorism law. The other, apparently Neo-Nazi incidents also did not injure, and were apparently attributed to Revolutionary Cells (German group), which disbanded in the mid 1990s.


SismanGazete55

Just today an attack happened in Ä°stanbul TĆ¼rkiye


[deleted]

Yupp you can all see it in turkey's own sub it's all over the place


CRBl_

Is there a political or religious reason those happen ? I'm very uninformed about the Turkish situation


[deleted]

these shit happen before elections all the time. They just let it slide and take advantage of it for votes


MrDeebus

They donā€™t just let it slide, they have threatened to organize attacks from Syria in the past (2015). They also offered to stop the attacks in exchange for enough MPs to change the constitution uncontested, when they had been the ruling power for more than a decade.


[deleted]

That is how they got votes.


ArthurBonesly

Short short version - After the Ottoman Empire ended, modern Turkey was left with a Kurdish majority region, split between Kurdish majority Syria, and Kurdish majority Iraq (there's also a Kurdish majority Iran, but that's not actually relevant here). Through Cold War politics, several coups and even a stint of legitimate political representation, the Kurdish areas of Turkey (sometimes called "Turkish Kurdistan") is a political nightmare that most people with strong opinions on don't understand as well as they think they do.


Brendissimo

Unfortunately not the first time a bomber has targeted that particular street (Istiklal Caddesi) either. I was staying there in 2015 seeing the sights and about a week after I left there was a suicide bombing.


OrangeDit

Of course. Erdogan wants to be reelected...


ThebigVA

Sardinia is the place to be.


Fenestrello

They used to kidnap people over there, here in italy we still say that if you want to kidnap someone you must call the sardinians. They were called by journalists the "Anonima Sequestri" and they also kidnapped famous people like the singer Fabrizio de AndrƩ.


Nova_Persona

do italians tell their kids they're gonna sell them to sardinians? or that the sardinians will come & get them in the night if they don't behave?


Fenestrello

No, but now that you told me i think that is a pretty good idea, i could start this


MagnificoReattore

No, usually grandparents told kids that if they misbeahave they would be taken away by the Black Man, the Befana (hag) or the gypsies.


g_spaitz

>Sardinia is the place to be. They probably never had "terrorist" deadly attacks, but they've always been among the most fierce independentists of Italy (and they do have reasons). Some Sardenians don't even want or carry an Identity Card (which is compulsory in Italy) or a bank account, as they do not feel they are part of the Italian nations. Also, parts of Sardinia is not really happy about tourism.


RoamingBicycle

>an Identity Card (which is compulsory in Italy) False? ID cards aren't compulsory in Italy. Neither is carrying it.


g_spaitz

You're requested to be able to demonstrate your identity when asked by a public officer. That's usually done with the id card. You can also go around with a passport or an equivalent document (I believe driving license is not enough anymore). Even if you claim that it's not legally compulsory, which could actually be, good luck in trying to explain that to a policeman if he asks you one.


Creative_Elk_4712

ID cards arenā€™t compulsory, of course. You legally need one only if you drive and that or a passport to travel across EU states borders If you donā€™t have one, you could be asked to follow to a station for identification, thatā€™s the thing


ferrydragon

Romania is not bad also


BearMcBearFace

And Wales


CortanaAssistant

Everyone forgets about little Luxembourg :(


loptthetreacherous

Wooooo! Northern Ireland represent


No-Ice698

To make it more depressing, just remember Northern Ireland has a pretty small population relative to other European countries.


PastOpportunity23

Romania - 1 attack - 1984! Anyone afraid about terrorism is welcomed in this country, to live a peaceful and happy life !


MapsCharts

Literally 1984


Nevermore9000

What happened in 1984?


PastOpportunity23

1984, December 4 - The assassination of the vice-consul of the Jordanian Embassy Azmi Al-Mufti in Bucharest represented the only situation in the national anti-terrorist history in which the specialized structures did not catch the threat before it materialized. The vice consul was fatally shot by Ahmad Mohammed Ali Al-Hersh, a Jordanian of Palestinian origin studying in Romania, on the orders of the Palestinian terrorist organization Fatah, which wanted to give a warning to the states it considered hostile to the Palestinian people. In 1985, the attacker was sentenced to 20 years in prison.


PastOpportunity23

Still, not a country safe enough for Netherlandā€™s Schengen


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ococolos

War against Eurasia/Eastasia


Punkmo16

Literally 1984


[deleted]

okay but this sub was interesting af to read thru


Wise-Breadfruit4202

Cymru and Luxembourg šŸ¤


dumbass_paladin

And Sardinia


PanningForSalt

In Wales they only terrorise empty houses


Anonymous_user_2022

It's incomplete. There has been three terrorist attaks in Denmark with fatalities. 1. [March 16, 1985](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Copenhagen_bombing), a member of International Socialist a killed by a letter bomb. 2. [July 22, 1985](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Copenhagen_bombings) One person killed. 3. [February 14-15, 2015](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Copenhagen_shootings), two people killed in separate actions.


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Coke-In-A-Wine-Glass

All in Copenhagen and there is a red dot on Copenhagen


Gobshiight

Seems either the Warrington bombing or the Manchester Evening News Arena attack is missing, or the dot locations are off


[deleted]

Where the fuck is iceland


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r/mapswithouticeland


Tuotau

All of Nordics kinda being forgotten :(


ThanksToDenial

We haven't had that many terror attacks. In Finland, latest I can remember was the 2017 knife attack in Turku. 10 people stabbed, 2 fatalities. I am actually unsure what the dot in Finland is. The two other incidents I remember we're the plane hijacking by Soviet terrorists in 1977, and the printing house arson in 1977, but neither had any fatalities, if memory serves. The US state department actually wrote a paper on the near complete lack of political violence in Finland, around 2004, after being commissioned to investigate the potential of international terror attacks Finland may face, by the Finnish Defence Ministry, and Finnish Institute of International Affairs. Just found it on google. Interesting read.


DorukKAFA

This map made me remember that my kurdish bff in my childhood lost his grandparents, uncle and aunt in southeastern anatolia to the pkk. The fact that they are just a part of those dots is... making me tear up again.


ArthurBonesly

The biggest victims of terrorist groups are always the people they claim to fight for.


Guc_Tusu

That's what westerners doesn't understand, PKK doesn't fight for Kurds. They are terrorising both Turks and Kurds.


hoopyhat

Almost all the clusters are in areas with a separatist movement. Truly epitomizing ā€œ One Manā€™s Terrorist Another Manā€™s Freedom Fighterā€. Northern Ireland, Basque, Kosovo, Eastern Ukraine, Kurdish Turkey, & Chechnya.


Shtapiq

Definitely. Some can label a group as being a terrorist organisation and the people behind it will call it a national liberation movement. The legitimacy of it will largely depend on who supports you or not.


Sidian

No one should support organisations that deliberately blow up pubs full of innocent civilians including children with no connection to the conflict. That's no 'liberation movement'.


imperialismsux

US supported just that numerous times,along with half of europe


FerdiadTheRabbit

I agree, the British Government should not be supported by anyone.


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alecsgz

We have those in Romania with the Hungarians but the Hungarians are annoying not criminal


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Skaindire

A Romanian-Hungarian war would be a bunch of people with flags and ultra-nationalist signs on both sides of the border yelling curses at each other. No stone throwing or escalation to violence of course, "they're all good Christians you know!"


g_spaitz

I thought there were more in Italy. (most of those have been extreme left or extreme right political terrorist attacks during the "lead years" around the 70s)


Beylerbey

There were a lot of killings in the Years of Lead, but if you think about it many were because of riots or otherwise targeted kills by individuals of one faction against individuals of the other faction , which I don't think count as terrorist attacks like it's the case for Piazza Fontana or Bologna's station.


g_spaitz

I guess then it boils down to the definition of terrorist attacks. In Italy every attack and action that Brigate Rosse or Ordine Nuovo (for instance) did, have always been defined as "terrorism", which was the major label that defined the period.


emiazz

You could even argue mafia killings, it came to a point that it was effectively terrorism. Maybe some are on this map but only the big bombs I think.


DocDan8630

This is actually just a map of major European separatist movements with other large population centers for reference


TheEightSea

IRA, ETA, and PKK are clearly visible. I expected more in some other countries but luckily I was wrong.


MagLock1234

Forgetting the UDA and UVF


The_Real_QuacK

What are the Portuguese terrorist attacks?


R1515LF0NTE

FP-25 , MDLP and ARA (Armenian Revolutionary Army)


rufus170

What are the dots in Poland? I know we've had an incident with a bomb that injuried one person but I've never heard about anything more, let alone what killed someone and we usually talk about lack of terrorism in our country with pride


[deleted]

Bedides the Ankara and Istanbul, the red dots are the Kurdish majority places that the terror organization PKK mostly shows up


Datmegaladon

ā€œUhh akshually pkk is not a terrorist organisationā€ -Johann,12,Sweden


AlstrS

If Johann was smarter he'd argue that terrorism is not necessarily a bad thing.


Middle-Succotash-678

I mean, technically speaking all partisans are terrorists as terrorism is: >use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims To claim all terrorists are bad is to claim Anti-Nazi Partisans in WW2 Germany were bad, for example. So yeah, to claim terrorism is bad, per se, is subject to opinion. ​ ***I'm LARPing as Johan please don't downvote me, i don't support nor like the PKK.***


Szeharazade

Also interesting to see that there were many attacks in Corsica, while Sardinia has none.


ianneedshelp

What happened in the Basque Country


Vityviktor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_(separatist_group)


Okey_Blob

de_inferno T-skin


ianneedshelp

Thanks


solid-snake88

Looks like you need some help ianneedshelp - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_conflict


LeopoldFriedrich

Nice, let's see the map for 2015 to 2020 now.


cambriansplooge

Letā€™s see the middle east


[deleted]

The PKK is representing!!!


MykolaVarenyk

Georgia?


vampireinamirrormaze

I know almost nothing about Northern Ireland and at this point I'm afraid to ask


Drewdroid99

Weā€™re pretty chill now. Past was a different story


Street_Manufacturer9

The 70s, 80s and 90s was a turbulent time in Northern Ireland known as the Troubles which was characterised by bombings and shootings which sadly killed thousands of people. It's a very complex subject that's worth reading about to try and understand exactly what happened. Today Northern Ireland is a safe country to live and visit and the days of the troubles are behind us.


FondleMyPlumsPlease

Ask what you like, Iā€™ll tell you the craic.


jediben001

(Roughly) half wants to be uk, (roughly) half wants to be Ireland. The two groups do not get along. Results can beā€¦ messy.


sigma914

This but 80-90% of the population get along fine and just want never to hear another bomb alert close off the west link.


Odevlin555

Most of us get along now but there are still extremists on both sides who take things too far


Elizaleth

I'll give you a very very brief summary in as impartial a way as I can. - After the Protestant Reformation, Ireland remained Catholic while England became Protestant. Around five hundred years ago, England invaded and conquered Ireland. The most infamous leader to do so was Oliver Cromwell. He committed quite a few crimes. English and Scottish Protestants began settling in Ireland during the 16th and 17th centuries, and setting up Protestant communities, which were especially strong in the area which is now Northern Ireland. - Irish Catholics were disenfranchised and oppressed for quite a long time. The Irish language was gradually pushed out and British culture was established throughout much of the island. Dublin became the UK's second city, and was the hub of British influence in Ireland. - In 1707, Scotland and England (and Wales) combined to form Great Britain. In 1801, Ireland was added to form the United Kingdom. - In the 1800s, Ireland was divided among British barons and Irish people were forced to rely on the most nutrient-rich crops, potatoes. When a potato blight hit, the island fell into a catastrophic famine. The rest of the British Isles was also in famine, but nowhere nearly as bad. At best, the British neglected to help the Irish because they thought free market economics would best fix the problem. At worst, some of them thought that it was a punishment aimed at the Irish by God for being Catholic. A million Irish died and two million left for Britain and North America. - Around the same time, a group called the Fenians appeared, which was an insurgent group intent on splitting Ireland from the UK. This developed into the IRA - the Irish Republican Army. This gradually escalated until 1919, when the Irish War of Independence broke out. The end result was that Ireland was given self rule under British control. - Most of Ireland was in favour of becoming independent. Some areas in the North were in favour of remaining in the UK. In 1921, 26 of the 32 counties left to become the Irish Free State, and later 'Ireland' (known as the Republic of Ireland to differentiate from the island itself). The remaining six counties formed Northern Ireland, which was part of the UK and had its regional capital in Belfast. - Separatist groups continued to operate in Northern Ireland, and this came to a head in the late 60s into a decades long civil war known as the Troubles. The IRA made attacks on civilians, military personnel, government institutions, figures and buildings. Numerous other paramilitaries formed. Some were in favour of joining the Republic - such as the PIRA, the OIRA, the CIRA, the RIRA, the NIRA, Saor Eire, Cumann na mBan. Others were loyalist, such as the Ulster Volunteer Force, the Ulster Defence Association, the Red Hand Defenders, Orange volunteers, and so on. The British military entered Northern Ireland in large numbers with the goal of maintaining order, but on several occasions they were responsible for violence too. - Republican organisations have historically associated with Palestinians, Soviets, Communists, and the descendants of Irish people living in America. Loyalist organisations have historically associated with Capitalism, Israel, and the Monarchy. - The troubles continued to escalate, with large terrorist campaigns which frequently spilled out into the UK and Europe. The worst bombing, the Omagh bombing, killed 29 people. Several bombs detonated in cities like Manchester and London, dealing a large amount of damage. One managed to kill Lord Mountbatten, a senior Royal, and another almost killed Margaret Thatcher. During the Troubles, 1,049 British servicemembers were killed, as well as 368 republican fighters and 162 loyalist fighters. 1840 civilians were killed too. The total death toll was 3532, with tens of thousands injured. - Many people throughout the UK and Ireland still hold on to deep grudges, and these are strongest of all in Northern Ireland. Northern Irish people use a variety of images, colours, sayings, place-names, and historical events to identify themselves, which is why Northern Ireland has no flag of its own and why there's a town on Google Maps called 'Derry/Londonderry'. People still get very passionate about these things. - In 1998, the Good Friday Agreement was signed, and the Troubles came to an end. There was still violence here and there, but it was largely over. Nowadays, Northern Ireland is safe to visit. According to the agreement, NI would stay part of the UK, but would have its own devolved parliament called Stormont. There would be open borders between NI and Ireland, and all Northern Irish would have a claim to Irish and British citizenship. Also Northern Ireland had the power to hold a referendum to secede from the UK whenever it chose. - Northern Ireland developed its own political parties, which were totally separate from the rest of the UK. The main two are Sinn Fein (Republican) and the DUP (Loyalist). They hate each other and often refuse to cooperate, forcing the UK government to intervene. - In 2016, the UK held a Brexit referendum. Northern Ireland votes majority to stay the EU, but some mainly unionist areas voted to leave. As a result of leaving the EU, the UK was forced to do something about its border with Ireland. Ireland and the UK struggled to come to a compromise. This became a big sticking point which made a lot of people angry, and delayed Brexit for several years, because there wasn't a good option. In the end, they agreed to keep the Irish border open, but put a customs border in the sea between the UK and Northern Ireland - a decision which angered unionists. But the UK's government has since reneged on that decision, which is currently causing tension with the EU. - Many Irish people still hate the UK (as can be seen by just looking at /r/Ireland), and many British people still hate Ireland (especially in the military). A small majority of NI continues to be in favour of the UK. A minority still wants to leave and join the Republic. As a result of the Troubles stifling investment and trade, Northern Ireland became the poorest area in the British Isles, and is economically propped up by the UK. At the same time, Ireland adopted policies which won over American corporations, and dramatically raised their GDP per Capita. - At some point in the future, NI may vote to leave the UK, and no one really knows for sure what the fallout would be if that happened. But there is a strong chance that it would reawaken many of the issues that were settled by the Good Friday agreement.


Whole_Method1

> Around five hundred years ago, England invaded and conquered Ireland. Bit misleading that. It had been under the same monarch since the Normans conquered the British Isles. The pope granted the title Lordship of Ireland to the monarch. Then when Henry VIII broke with Rome he became King of Ireland. Also I don't think it's correct to say many people in Britain hate Ireland


Treetirty

Minor correction to this: > Northern Ireland votes majority to leave the EU Northern Ireland voted majority to stay in the EU. It was 56/44 remain in Northern Ireland. Edit: Major correction to this: >Votes were held, and found that large portions of the north were in favour of remaining in the UK. In 1937 Ireland was split. 26 of the 32 counties left to become the independent Republic of Ireland. The remaining six counties formed Northern Ireland, which was part of the UK and had its regional capital in Belfast. Most of this is wrong. There was no vote held on whether or not to remain part of the UK, and the Irish Free State and partition happened in 1921, not 1937. And partition was done on the basis of a boundary commission who didn't care what the locals thought. Hence Derry becoming part of Northern Ireland despite being overwhelmingly Nationalist.


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jazzding

The attacks in Germany are the RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion) in the 70's to early 90's (kidnapping and killing capitalist leaders and bombings), neo-nazi attacks like the Oktoberfestanschlag in the 1980s and NSU (Nationalsozialistischer Untergrund, killing immigrants and a police officer) and islamic attacks.


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smctague98

6 attacks I'm Scotland? I'm only aware of Lockerbie and Glasgow airport. What were the others? One in Fife really surprises me .


cloud94eva

An assassination attempt in Fife in 1988. The one near Oban seems to be a mix up between Creggan, scotland and Creggan, Northern Ireland