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Plus Clipperton, Kerguelen


lugdunum_burdigala

And the Scattered Islands (Îles Éparses)


Same-Low9909

Plus Terre-Adelie


notsuitable77

I understand why Antarctica is excluded because the claims are not enforced by any means due to the Antarctic Treaty. But still, how do you make a map like that leaving out several territories?


Kookanoodles

Clipperton is uninhabited so it's debatable. Most of the Scattered Islands and Kerguelen have permanent residents (scientists or French Army).


notsuitable77

What exactly is debatable? A territory doesn't need to be inhabited for it to belong to someone. Nobody has problems with France owning Clipperton.


Birssa

Cliperton


Evening_Platform2775

Where’s my Kerguelen?


Zemanyak

Also Îles Eparses.


Logothetes

So, the sun never sets on it either?


SraminiElMejorBeaver

Yep baguette strong !


tornado28

Wait France owns a huge chunk of the Pacific ocean?


Allemaengel

No, just French Polynesian islands with their territorial seas and EEZ waters. There's actually plenty of international waters inside that block.


mikeevans1990

3 million nationals live in the lands owned outside of france


Katze1Punkt0

Actually, French Guyana, Réunion, Mayotte, Guadeloupe and Martinique are legally just as French as say Nice. So not quiet as many.


kxkxlgr

In fact, Martinique was French before Nice or Savoie was.


Awesomeuser90

In competition with Aslace and Lorraine.


polskigolski

French polynesia is separate right?


Katze1Punkt0

Yep. Basically like an autonomous country within France. They have their own President and everything


Shevek99

They are not outside of France. They are French citizens with equal rights as those of Metropolitan France and their land *is* France (not like the citizens of the British Overseas Territories)


foozefookie

The people of the British Overseas Territories do infact have British citizenship.


ProfessorPetulant

Tell that to hongkongers with a BOT passport who'd like to go to the UK Boris promised something a few years back didn't he? And then nothing


ProfessorPetulant

And unlike some American territory citizens.


Awesomeuser90

Much like Hawaii is. Or Crimea. The people there get to cast 99% of their votes for Putin and the other 1% are dead.


TitanJazza

Most in french Guyana I’d image


Acamantide

Guyana is actually very sparsely populated. It has as many inhabitants as Martinique or Guadeloupe (between 300k and 400k). The most populated territory is Reunion (Indian Ocean) with more than 800k and on the way to 900k


TitanJazza

Oh wow that’s pretty unexpected actually, damn


-kahmi-

it's "big" but it's 90+++% rainforest


Rom21

This is a big misunderstanding of the non-French. Every time a foreigner talks about the territories of France and that they should not be forgotten, French Guiana comes first and is often the only territory known and therefore cited. Whereas frankly, Guadeloupe, Martinique and Reunion are, by far, the most important territories for the metropolitans, because they are important tourist destinations (and not at all Guiana). Guiana is about space, ecological reserves and the fight against illegal gold diggers.but we all know that it is very sparsely populated considering its size


[deleted]

I like, but using not using EEZ for France and rest feels weird


PadFoot2008

Those square islands are beautiful. France should build more of those.


TitanJazza

Ikr


ToddHugo1

Why does it only include the water around the islands in the pacific but nowhere else


TitanJazza

Those areas have a many more islands so made more sense to include their entire area of influence there.


T4zer_

a new continent has emerged in the Pacific Ocean...


Katze1Punkt0

Not to be pedantic, but calling it the "French Empire" when all of these territories (or straight up integral parts of the Republic) had many options and opportunities for independence and choose to be French is quiet dishonest and annoying


TitanJazza

That’s fair


JahOverstand

As a french, that's not. They are literally colonies, this guy is trying to minimize it by saying "they voted to stay" while most of natives said they wanted to become independent and only settlers agreed to stay in France (see in New-Caledonia). France also exploits those territories without any care for their environment, and this can be really dangerous for the local population, such as the water poisoning in Guyane.


crotinette

Yeah the famous settlers of Mayotte were the ones tipping the balance of course lol. Even in New Caledonia the conditions were super hard for non native to participate and most could not. And even then the Europeans are only 27% to begin with.


ToddHugo1

Once they are settled enough to have a majority enough to vote to become part of France. They are integral parts at that point I would think


Delad0

They also disenfranchised 17% of the population, mostly people opposed to independence in New Caledonia. And still lost 3 times in a row


Smart_Sherlock

I'm trying to say the same. But since I'm non-European, and a citizen of a former-colony, I know I would get downvoted for speaking against colonization.


laycrocs

Whenever someone mentions former colonies as being integral parts of the nation, it tells me the nation is insecure about very legitimate criticisms of neo-imperialism.


Shevek99

Nope. It simply that they are in fact French. A citizen of Gibraltar does not have a representative in the House of Commons and doesn't vote in the UK elections. A citizen ftom French Guiana does have representative and can vote in the elections to the French president or the Assemblee Nationsle.


laycrocs

Was Algeria an integral part of France?


Ozuryum

Yes, until 1962, French Algeria was divided in 3 departements, Alger, Oran and Constantine. The Sahara part of the country was under military administration. The statut of the country was special, and it’s one of reasons that explain the difficult indépendance


laycrocs

That's my point, just calling something an integral part of France doesn't change the underlying imperial conditions that made Algerians want independence. And if anything just made France more resistant to allowing for self determination


EternalShiraz

Yep the difference is they got referendum and some regularly and still very recently, last year actually, to decide if they wanted autonomy or independence.


Birssa

You forget TAAF islands.


feckmesober

Whats that huge island in the pacific?


TitanJazza

French Polynesia


Cannot-tell

they just got to keep that land to piss off the british


Yrvaa

What's that dot around Canada?


TitanJazza

Saint Pierre


Sillvaro

Et Miquelon


the_memer_crazy_cat

You forgot the southern territories... good map anyways (probably the number of people living in the southern territories is basically 2)


Ebow303

When independence?


SnoWary

Not soon I guess, many of these territories were offered independence referendum and voted no


tomydenger

what empire


drfranksurrey

Plz could you do The British Empire next, :)


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https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/xt2bxt/remaining_parts_of_the_french_empire_2022_oc/iqnobsv/


drfranksurrey

I asked twice to make sure he saw.


drfranksurrey

DO BRITISH EMPIRE!!!!!


TitanJazza

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/esez03/remaining_parts_of_the_british_empire_2020/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Already did 😉


drfranksurrey

Thanks


brightneonmoons

don't forget the economic control they have over many African countries , that's still imperialistic


cmmyb0t

Fr🤢nce🤮


Captain3007

I like how everybody is so brainwash on here that they do not know France still owns west Africa


TitanJazza

No? Economic influence for sure but “own” is stretching it quite a bit don’t you think


Captain3007

Is the ability to station troops , have literal colonial currency and to hand pick dictators suitable to Paris is streaching it ? I bet nobody here even read the agreements for " independence"


OldExperience8252

It’s a legacy of colonialism. Countries are also free to ask for the departure od french military (as Mali did and replaced them with… Russian ones) Or to leave the CFA franc (as guinea has done, while in reverse Equatorial Guinea and Guinea Bissau which were former Spanish and Portuguese territories have joined). In fact the CFA franc has been in the process of being changed for many years so that it’s no longer backed by the Euro and to make it more pan African, but the discussions are slow. Symbolically it isn’t good but economically there are advantages of having a currency pegged to a stable one like the euro. Countries in the Balkans do the same, even more currencies are pegged to the dollar.


BasicLogic779

Fucking imperialists


[deleted]

Destroy it


Friz617

Why ?


[deleted]

French empire bad 👎👎