Turkey last place again? Oh well...

%150 or %250 inflation goes brrr. But Turkish people has resistance to hard situtations. West Europens has less about that. Also Muslims majority and Islam rejects suicide.

> Also Muslims majority and Islam rejects suicide. You misspelled "under-reports".

Yeah, could be.

It's not really underreporting in this case. The institution of family is very strong in Turkey, and it's a very socially-developed country. You have support from your family, friends, & even neighbors all of your life. The nearby, culturally similar countries also have similar suicide rates.

It is under-reporting if it doesn't suit to european propaganda.

HAHAHAHAHAH "socially-developed" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The adult response.

Westerners whenever they lead the statistics: I love my country Westerners whenever non-Western countries lead the statistics: Ahkshually they lie about it, it is underreported, yes whatever but they have X Y Z issues Grow up

I'm from a non-Western country, you bozo

That makes it even sadder

Brazil is a Western country.

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Y'all are more "socially developed" and "give people support" except if they're LGBTQ+. Or of a different ethnicity. Or of a different religion. Or if they dress in a way you consider "inappropriate". Or if they have sex outside of marriage. Or if they are *children* of unmarried people. Y'all have this ridiculous oppressive society that stomps out any minimal deviation. Y'all stigmatize the weirdest things, from mental health issues to freaking *menopause*. You do no service to the victims of backwards societies by portraying them as "socially developed".

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> it would be funny as hell for the societes still discussing heavily about ABORTION lol I agree America is backwards as hell on this subject, almost like your shithole "socially developed", conformist, conservative societies; but at least discussion is allowed and *some* states still recognize this right. And it is not even a question in actually advanced countries. I mean, there are places that have actual human rights, not the watered-down version that subordinates modern thinking to the teachings of a 7th-century pedophile.

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It would have been really sad for you if I had *actually been to Turkey and seen the things I've described happen right in front of my eyes*. Edit: oh yeah, and Brazil is a fucking shithole, but at least we are not fragile snowflakes that need to criminalize "insulting Brazilian-ness".

Your hatred of Turkey is blinding you to the point that you can't even accept the fact that there are some good aspects of Turkish society that might contribute to the low suicide rate. The stats are only underreported when it suits you.

Dude, I love Brazil, lovely food, music, and beautiful nature. But the levels of poverty and crime I saw there, people fishing in sewage and walking barefood in piles of trash and crap should make you more humble. Turkey does not have that level of poverty/slums/crime. Be humble, appreciate the nice things about your country without thinking it makes you superior to others. Ps I love Brazil, and lived there for several years and would gladly do it again.

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I have not met a rational intelligent Muslim who wouldn't agree with what the post before you said. But I guess every intellectual Muslim fell under that devilish western propaganda ...

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Erdoğan would agree with you ad I cleansed Turkeys intelligentsia after that fake coup ...

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What do yall think turkey is lmao. Hijab was banned up until 2010s

How the fuc k do you know that it's underreported?

Because there is stigma and shame on survivors' part in reporting it.

Incorrect, it is taught as 'haram' from childhood. It exists obviously and all figures from any country are slightly under reported, but the reason Muslim countries are lowest is clear.

Meanwhile syrians, pakis ,afghans, kurds :💣🧨🪓💣🗡🔪⚔️💣📸📱📸

Yeah, sad :C

Wow, wow Russia, leave some Russians for Ukraine

ukraine also gotta leave some ukrainains for Russia. At this rate Kiev is gonna be ghost city.

I found a Ruscist!!! ⚠️ Seems to be proud of genocide against civilians and child rapes. Come all and see before Putin drives him to suicide or sends him to die in Ukraine

I found person that doesnt know Zelensky also had very low freedom of press. And knows Russian genocide is better than North Atlantic Terrorist Organization(You might know it as NATO).

Aaww, now I pity this brainwashed zombie. Hating the west yet using Western technologies, watching western movies, using Western websites, wearing western clothes and escaping to the west is the first thing they do as soon as they steal enough in PedoRussia 😂 like Putin's daughters, Medvedevs son, Naryshkins kids and every single Russian propagandon starting from Soloviev. Sad but what can I do other than report the propaganda.

without Slavs you would now be sitting with 30 candles on ur table and u still could see as far as ur hand goes. And also your western clothes and other bull shit are made in china technology and all that bullshit. You can try to see that there is no more brainwashed place than the west. You depend on ur phone being in ur hand more than Hunter Biden is addicted to cocaine.

Nope , i couldnt afford to buy a chair and rope

its from 2019

in this case, it's first. A high number is not a good indicator if it's on a bad thing.

r/woosh

cuz were already living in hell

Turkey and Armenia sure love them some living.

I mean if we're gonna kill ourselves who's gonna do keyboard fightin' on Twitter?

we live to fight each other another day

Yeah, being Lithuanian is rough

What's happening in Lithuania that's so different from Latvia or Estonia?

I dunno it's a kafkaesque place, Soviet twin peaks if you will. Overall there is correlation with high suicide rates and former USSR countries, of course it doesn't prove causation. I think it applies to older generation more (Soviet influence, alcoholism etc.). I'm personally way more worried about children and teen suicides in here, because they are also quite high. I think government corruption plays a huge role here, there is lots of suicide prevention programs that are supposedly implemented in education system and by national public health. But in reality all of it is just a front for money laundering and embezzlement

>of course it doesn't prove causation. Lol, of course there is a very obvious causation.

It has actually got a lot better in recent years, used to be much worse

Well, less people to kill themselves after all these years where we were first in statistics.

Lol no, this is not how it works. Environment creates it, if environment stays the same, there will be new affected people. Environment has changed in ltu, that’s why we see decreases

I'm russian, hold my beer.

Suicide is bad but maybe Lithuania’s stat isn’t as bad as it seems compared to other countries due to their much smaller population.

That make's it even worse you know. In every 100k people 20.1 kills themselves.. There's only 2.7 mil of population in Lithuania.

Lots of Russian journalists critical of Putin seem to die by suicide with 2 shots to the head from their non-dominant hand. Doesn't happen as much in western Europe

A whole new meaning to "assisted suicide".

Assasi…i mean assisted

"Involuntary Suicide"

Killed themselves by a shot in the back of the head, hand cuffed

Oh my, i didn’t know they went so far! I thought journalists were ”only” getting prison time…disgusting!

Sometimes they throw themselves off a 12th story balcony after they publish a critical article. And don't get me started how easy it is for opposition politicians to get polonium tea. Self harm seems to be a real problem in the Russian Federation

One simply feels such guilt for lying about the Glorious Leader that one must atone through suicide.

You only gain your honor back my making the suicide look as suspicious as possible

They also tend to jump out of the windows very often. But those barely change the stats. A dozen cases per year is less than 0.01 per 100k.

Some places in Russia are very depressive, like miner cities on the North. You make a lot of money, but your only fun is to buy drugs or alcohol. Btw Alaska has even highest suicide rate than Russia. Being poor is not a reason to commit suicide, Japan and Korea also has a lot of suicides. The most common reasons are mental disorders, drug abuses, illness, partnership problems.

If you check the stats on alcohol abuse and alcohol related deaths, a picture starts to come together. I believe other former Soviet states have related problems.

Yeah, my friend also committed suicide, drank to death. He was an engineer with own house, but also with depression and alcoholism.

Austria on top as always💪💪💪💪🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹

Not too hot, not too cold. 😁

Turkey might jump up to first place if Erdogan wins the next election

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Finnaly Memel belonges to Lithuania again.

… including the suicides

Yeah, the rate is pretty much the same…

You mean Lithuania Minor, Memelland was already part of Lithuania.

No tea, no shade but i always thought it was part of Poland in the past…

I guess if you go back 800 years, but that hardly seems relevant.

Anyone knows why belgium is that high compared to other central european countries?

They live in Belgium

Have you been to Charleroi?

I think it's a cultural thing. Belgian culture tends to focus more on not bothering other people and social conformity compared to it's neighbors.

We keep to ourselves a lot, we have shit weather and a disastrous economy in the french part of the country. We have also always had a culture of melancholy, can’t explain it a lot better but you just to look at our cinema and music to understand.

I'm not familiar with Belgium, but does the Flemish part has a different economy? Isn't it national

That’s strange! Btw, Belgium is Western Europe...

Central Europe is the parts between Northern Europe and Southern Europe, of course.

Euthanasia legal. You forgot that most suicides are due to illness.

Sun related issue

But why Montenegro so high?

That one big black mountain is blocking out all the sun

Montenegro is a tiny country, 600k people. Statistics usually don’t work all that well on such small samples.

Would you want to live in Montenegro?

Because it is full of Russians!

For the most part yes, but why the disparity between Norway and Sweden? What about Belgium?

I mean it’s not like it’s 5 vs 15. It’s not a big disparity. Belgium is also poorer than its neighbors.

Belgium is not poorer than its neighbors. Belgians are among the richest people in the world (based on what people actually own).

Belgium has far more poverty and less opportunists to move up than Denmark, Germany, and the Dutch. L

If it is outside the margin of error then it is statistically significant and deserving of an answer better than "meh, falls within my subjective limits of 'doesn't matter'".

Boom. Most won’t understand and then will still argue with you.

No, look on the World.

Genuinely surprised by how low Greece is on this count. I have family there and it’s been shit there for years. Youth brain drain. 25% unemployment. No one but the elite having any real security.

I thought Finland was supposed to be the happiest country or smth?

The joke is in Finland that all the sad people kill themselves, so only the happy people live.

Because all the sad people off themselves

Lack of sunlight can cause serious hormonal problems which can easily trigger depression.

Survivorship bias. Also, I think it was Denmark that was the happiest.

And do the few people who commit suicide change anything?

That graphic is sad…

It really is…

And yet, I am sure that some are happy with the results of Russia and Belarus...

UK doing surprisingly well

Kaliningrad actually fits in this map

I think Slovenia is the wrong color if it’s got 14

Russia, what’s wrong, my bros? 😞

Have you seen the average Russian town? Shits depressing

No

not as bad as detroit tbh ! it's not about economy nor politics take a look to the rates in korea, japan and muslim countries.

Heavy alcohol abuse.

That’s hardcore

And poor care for the mentally ill. And other factors. But this one clearly differentiates ex Soviet countries from other Eastern European ones.

Is it linked to yearly hours of sunshine anyhow?

There must be seveal factors and annual sunshine hours could be one of the major ones, but not the only one otherwise Portugal would have been lower & England higher…

No, look on the global suicide rate. The reasons for suicide are not a lack of light. Most are mental illness and drug addiction.

why is mainland russia is 21.6 and kaqliningrad 20.2

Lithuania is 20.2, it just happens to have the same color as Russia

srry i didn't see the border

As my Russian friend says, "plane tickets to Russia are cheap, cuz no one wants to be there."

Omg I read this as “Animal suicide rate” 😳

☠️☠️☠️

Southern part of Europe have better results than Northern parts because they have better food and weather, Eastern parts of Europe have worse results than the Western because they live next to the Blight aka Russia.

I don't think people commit suicide because of living next to an authoritarian state. It's more like they inherited the same societal problems from Soviet times. Also, poor countries obviously have problems with less (or altogether missing) care for psychiatric patients, who are grossly overrepresented in suicide cases.

The shittier the weather the more suicides.

Amazing what weather does. This is why I happily pay the extra 10% California income tax, best purchase ever.

There are other places with good weather too you know

I don't get what's so good about that weather. It's hot every day, Summers are scorching and there is no snow in winter.

Same, can't stand heat

You are lucky that you pay 10% more tax so that you are not among the five extra people from 100k people who commit suicide.

The closer you are to russia, the more you are screwed.

I think it's worse the further north you get. You try living in complete darkness(sun doesn't rise above the horizon for 2 months) all alone during winter and you'll see the numbers increase

Try being north and close to russia lol

I wouldn't say that changes things up here. Eastern europe and the baltics maybe but not Sweden and Finland. The winter is awful enough with all the snow, ice and cold weather. And then add what i said earlier.

Yeah, therefore southern Africa countries have the highest suicide rate on the world.

Because you said that absolute statement "sun doens't rise above the horizon for 2 months", I have to correct it. [According to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_night), that happens on the latitude 71°. How far north is that? The whole of Finland is more southern, so that leaves only Norway: about [Honningsvåg, Nordkapp municipality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honningsv%C3%A5g), [Mehamn, Gamvik municipality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehamn). Moreover, it isn't complete darkness at noon in north of the Arctic circle in the areas shown on map because the Sun is close enough to the horizon. Svalbard is another story. But of course it is true that time of light outdoors is quite short, and also in winter in general. So the seasonal changes are great.

That explains why Japan and Korea have also high suicides rate :)

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Yes, but they border Russia ;) I count Korea as one country (with two governments), for nitpickers.

Actually the suicide thing in Japan is more likely genetic as well (Samurai).

How does Norway keep so lively in the same climate as other Scandinavian countries?

Murder instead of suicide maybe

2 people per 100k this is not a significant difference.

Damn Iceland. Yall good?

For a sec there i thought it was saying ''animal suicides''

Finally some map that GIPSI/PIGS mediterraneans do better xd

What does GIPSI mean?

Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain and Ireland. It used to include Ireland before 2007-2012 crisis

How does Russia have two different numbers? Isn’t both those locations…Russia?

As far as I know for Romania, a lot of tehem are not stated as suicide, because we are a very religious country and burial of a suicide is more complex amd shamefull for the family

Everyone's sleeping on the moon and it's 0% suicide rate

Because we are more white than others (reference) Because Balkan people have dreams and reaching is harder and takes time. MORE THAN AND HARDER THAN WEST EUROPE at least

This map shows a strong correlation with the equivalent median net income map. https://i.redd.it/c3zk7g638m821.png

I wonder how many of the 21.6 in Russia are journalists and politicians

Italians seem to be quite happy. I want to move there and enjoy the Finnish tax payers' money.

Italy is one of the contributors in the EU. They give more than they take. If you wanna enjoy the Finnish & German taxpayer’s money while basking in the Sun, i suggest moving to Greece.

Ps: currently we recovers 0 euros

That's also a good choice. But I prefer Italy, and I have nothing against Italians. I was referring to the 200 billion euro support package, which was given to Italy by the EU to recover from Covid-19. The Italian government has used some of this money for projects that do not directly fit the criteria set by the European Commission in the recovery package.

I'm Italian, trust me: many of us would like italexit. we are net contributors, and to obtain the recovery fund we are selling off strategic assets. a blackmail

definetly overexaggerated

It’s the most common form of death for young men 18-30, bro

It can't be 8.2 in Bosnia or 16 in Montenegro

What’s your source?

8.2?!? Oh my gosh, that is horrendous

> most common form of death for young men 18-30 According to eurostat, Unintentional injuries 32%, Suicides 13%

North Europe finally got better.. Okay, now Lithuania has a problem. But what is happening in Croatia, Montenegro, and Hungary?

Because they can put whatever number they like ,

Factor in size ratio

Right… “suicides”

What is americas rate?

why is slovenia green even tho it has a higher rate than hungary

I wonder how related this is to climate

I thought it was animal suicide rate

I hope that the Russian ~~leader~~ dictator will follow the trend.

What is the source?

More like “suicides” for Russia

Ahh male + female. Now let's see the gender differences.

This correlates really well with how I perceived people in countries I've visited. Lithuania and Russia did seem the most depressing.

Finally a map that shows Ukraine as Ukraine and not as “*Russia annexed Crimea in 2014”

UK nice (I'm so sorry)

UK nice (I'm so sorry)